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Title: Pelosi's Iowa power grab – here's why House speaker is trying to steal this seat
Source: fox
URL Source: https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/pel ... -grab-steal-seat-newt-gingrich
Published: Mar 29, 2021
Author: Newt Gingrich
Post Date: 2021-03-29 20:24:07 by tankumo
Keywords: None
Views: 187
Comments: 16

Republican Rep. Mariannette Miller-Meeks is the certified winner of Iowa’s 2nd Congressional District election.

In an ironic show of Democratic hypocrisy, her opponent, Rita Hart – with the help of Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif. – is objecting to the election results.

Miller-Meeks won by a small margin of six votes, as certified by a bipartisan election board. Hart realized her challenge was more likely to be favorably entertained by Pelosi than by any court, so she bypassed Iowa’s court system and took her objection directly to the U.S. Congress.

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#1. To: tankumo, and Everyone (#0)

In an ironic show of Democratic hypocrisy, her opponent, Rita Hart – with the help of Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif. – is objecting to the election results.

Speaking of an “ironic show of hypocrisy” –

House Republicans Who Backed Overturning Election Now Accuse Pelosi Of Trying To ‘Steal’ House Seat

Gatlin  posted on  2021-03-30   0:44:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Gatlin (#1)

House Republicans had good reason to 'overturn' election result, everyone knows that. There were so many fraud incidents, and many are being charged now.

tankumo  posted on  2021-03-30   0:47:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: tankumo, and Everyone (#0)

House Democrats face backlash on both sides for investigating Iowa House race won by a Republican

Gatlin  posted on  2021-03-30   0:51:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: tankumo, and Everyone (#2) (Edited)

House Republicans had good reason to 'overturn' election result, everyone knows that.

“NEWS FLASH” – NOT “everyone knows that.” The Politico/Morning Consult poll of 1,987 registered voters found the majority of respondents overall think the 2020 presidential election between President Donald Trump and Joe Biden was a “free and fair election.” There are many other results to show the same. One additional report is here that shows: “More Americans Happy About Trump Loss Than Biden Win.”

There were so many fraud incidents and many are being charged now.

There were many “CLAIMS” of widespread voter fraud but not ONE claim was ever duly substantiated that could change the outcome of the 2020 election. NOT A SINGLE ONE. Show links to the “many being charged now” – Please. As to your cry of “many fraud incidents” – All the courts found there were “NONE.” A list of groups and individuals who have found no merit in your “claim” is found here. Even Donald Trump’s own Attorney General, William Barr, said here that the U.S. Justice Department uncovered “no evidence of widespread voter fraud.”

In logic and reasoning, if someone assumes something without researching all the facts – they often end up with a wrong impression or belief. When expressed in more precise philosophical language, a fallacy of defective induction is a conclusion that has been made on the basis of weak premises, or one which is not justified by sufficient or unbiased evidence.

Gatlin  posted on  2021-03-30   2:02:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Gatlin (#4)

Frauds occur in everything, stock market, competition, election, business.....this is human bad behavior.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/north- carolina/articles/2021-03-19/nc-federal-attorneys-24-more-charged- in-voter-fraud-probe

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-men-charged-8000-ballot- applications

https://www.heritage.org/election-integrity/commentary/database- swells-1285-proven-cases-voter-fraud-america

https://townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/2020/12/09/draft-n2581319

https://www.albanyherald.com/news/35-voter-fraud-cases-in-georgia- turned-over-for-prosecution/article_b18466ee-6f9a-11eb-a0b6- 2755984dfaf1.html

https://bearingdrift.com/2020/12/26/vindication-confirmed-cases-of- voter-fraud-in-pa-mi-wi/

tankumo  posted on  2021-03-31   1:04:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: tankumo, abd Everyone (#5)

Frauds occur in everything, stock market, competition, election, business.....this is human bad behavior.

What you say here is true.

House Republicans had good reason to 'overturn' election result, everyone knows that.

What you said here is simply not true.

And I fully explained to you here why it was not true.

I asked you to: “Show links to the “many being charged now” [regarding the 2020 presidential election] – Please.”

You posted this as the first Link:

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/north- carolina/articles/2021-03-19/nc-federal-attorneys-24-more-charged- in- voter-fraud-probe

The first line in your first link reads:

A federal North Carolina prosecutor’s office that has been investigating allegations of voter-related fraud says 24 more people have been charged over the past 18 months.

“Over the past 18 months” definitely is not as you said, “many being charged now.”

You then posted this link:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-men-charged-8000-ballot- applications

That article is about:

Voter fraud scheme was an attempt to help one of the accused men win his bid for [LA’s] mayor, DA's office says

The link has absolutely nothing to do with the 2020 presidential election – the subject we are discussing.

I simply did not waste time checking the rest of your links since the first two being proven so grossly wrong in compliance for the links I asked for – were more than enough for me to see that you have no evidence to support your claim.

I am therefore compelled to stand by the convincing evidence I supplied that there were many “CLAIMS” of widespread voter fraud but not ONE claim was ever duly substantiated that could change the outcome of the 2020 election. NOT A SINGLE ONE.

Gatlin  posted on  2021-03-31   2:28:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Gatlin (#6)

We are in this thread "Pelosi's Iowa power grab – here's why House speaker is trying to steal this seat"

This has nothing to do with presidential election either.

Generally speaking, election fraud is real, at every level, even at the past presidential elections, including non-presidential level.

Only a fool believes there is no election fraud at all levels. There were frauds, but many were not caught.

The fact that the media tried to influence the election is also a fraud. When the media tried to bury Biden's skeleton, that was fraud. When the media tired to help Hillary in 2016, that was fraud. And we can go on and on and on, fact is, the media is the reason why Biden was elected.

You have the right to think otherwise.

https://spectator.us/topic/evidence-actually-rudy-giuliani-voter- fraud/

https://danfromsquirrelhill.wordpress.com/2021/03/10/stop-the-steal/

tankumo  posted on  2021-03-31   19:58:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Gatlin (#6)

There were many non-citizens voting too, I forgot to add, and they mostly voted Democrats, that's fraud.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/nov/22/joe-biden-won- illegal-votes-thousands-noncitizens-/

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/voter-fraud-texas- evidence-non-citizens-voting/

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-2020-presidential- election-rigged-big-tech-mainstream-media

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2020/12/12/how_much_did_the_medias _lies_help_biden_in_the_election_531167.html#!

tankumo  posted on  2021-03-31   20:06:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: tankumo, and Everyone (#7) (Edited)

We are in this thread "Pelosi's Iowa power grab – here's why House speaker is trying to steal this seat"

This has nothing to do with presidential election either.

You are correct, in that what you say here doesn’t have anything to do with the presidential election.

You however said here: “House Republicans had good reason to 'overturn' election result.” In response to what I said here: “House Republicans Who Backed Overturning [Presidential] Election Now Accuse Pelosi Of Trying To ‘Steal’ House Seat.”

So, you are wrong in saying: “This has nothing to do with presidential election either.”

First, because we were discussing the presidential election – As you can see.

And secondly, when the Senate and House meet to formally tally the states’ Electoral College votes for the presidential election — A state’s results can only be contested if a lawmaker from the House and Senate submit a formal challenge to the results.

So, please do not try to tell me that I am “out of bounds” in my discussion. That simply will not work since I have shown you that my statements were in context.

This has nothing to do with presidential election either.

Generally speaking, election fraud is real, at every level, even at the past presidential elections, including non-presidential level.

Only a fool believes there is no election fraud at all levels. There were frauds, but many were not caught.

The fact that the media tried to influence the election is also a fraud. When the media tried to bury Biden's skeleton, that was fraud. When the media tired to help Hillary in 2016, that was fraud. And we can go on and on and on, fact is, the media is the reason why Biden was elected.

You have the right to think otherwise.

I know that I have the right to think otherwise. But I do not. I am in total agreement with you – Albeit as you say, “generally speaking.”

https://spectator.us/topic/evidence-actually-rudy-giuliani-voter- fraud/

I said that I agree with you “generally speaking.”

I however said here that: “Not ONE claim was ever duly substantiated that could change the outcome of the 2020 election. NOT A SINGLE ONE.”

I emphatically, STAND BY THAT STATEMENT.

https://danfromsquirrelhill.wordpress.com/2021/03/10/stop-the- steal/

Same response to this link that I made to the link above – Nothing changes.

I will be happy to believe and agree with you when you can show me factual results where any voter fraud changed the outcome of he 2020 presidential election.

Gatlin  posted on  2021-03-31   21:12:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: tankumo, and Everyone (#8)

There were many non-citizens voting too, I forgot to add, and they mostly voted Democrats, that's fraud.

Yes, you are correct. That is fraud.

BUT, no place has it ever been shown that any fraud changed the outcome of the 2020 presidential election.

I continue stand by my statement: “Not ONE claim was ever duly substantiated that could change the outcome of the 2020 election. NOT A SINGLE ONE.”

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/nov/22/joe-biden-won- illegal-votes-thousands-noncitizens-/

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/voter-fraud-texas- evidence-non-citizens-voting/

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-2020-presidential- election-rigged-big-tech-mainstream-media

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2020/12/12/how_much_did_the_medias _lies_help_biden_in_the_election_531167.html#!

I will not spend time looking at the info in the links unless you assure me that they definitely show that fraud changed the outcome of the 2020 election.

you continue to scream "FRAUD" as long as you want to – But it will do no good unless you can show that fraud changed the outcome of the 2020 presidential election.

It is a dead issue and you cannot bring it back to life.

You really should just let it go and move on …

Gatlin  posted on  2021-03-31   21:32:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Gatlin (#10)

No, it cannot be proven in court, it's very difficult to prove in court, that's why Democrats can get away with it.

Changing how to count votes in the middle of the game is fraud, and I think in some state, there is already a judge declaring it was wrong to change the counting method.

When you mix in a lot of illegal votes, you really cannot prove it unless you have a tv camerca.

I guess Rush Limbaugh and Trump would disagree with you. But you have the right to do as you please, it's America after all.

Democrats will commit election fraud, again and again, knowing that they can get away with it, even after you and I die, this game goes on.

And GOP will do the same though they commit less fraud.

I keep wondering if you are happy now that Biden is in charge, the border mess, tax increase....etc, I certainly am worried.

In the future socialism and communism is coming and it will destroy America. Election fraud must stop. Look how Pelosi tried to steal the seat won by GOP (by 6 votes).

tankumo  posted on  2021-04-01   20:59:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: tankumo, and Everyone (#11) (Edited)

No, it cannot be proven in court, it's very difficult to prove in court, that's why Democrats can get away with it.

We are in agreement.

Changing how to count votes in the middle of the game is fraud …

It may or may not be – depending strictly on the reason for the change.

… and I think in some state, there is already a judge declaring it was wrong to change the counting method.

What you are referring to happened here when …

… A Pennsylvania state judge ruled in favor of the Trump campaign and ordered the state not to count some mail-in ballots that were missing proof of identification and cured during an extended deadline.

But the ruling will not change the vote count and it did not impact Joe Biden’s win in the state.

When you mix in a lot of illegal votes, you really cannot prove it unless you have a tv camerca.

This is true.

I guess Rush Limbaugh and Trump would disagree with you.

What would they disagree with me on?

But you have the right to do as you please, it's America after all.

No one has the right “to do as they please.” After all, it’s America and everyone must obey the:

Rule of Law in American Life.

Or face the consequences.

Democrats will commit election fraud, again and again, knowing that they can get away with it, even after you and I die, this game goes on.

And GOP will do the same though they commit less fraud. .

Yes, they both will.

I keep wondering if you are happy now that Biden is in charge, the border mess, tax increase....etc, I certainly am worried.

No, I am not happy with Biden as president. He is indeed making a mess of everything. We all have reasons to be worried.

Oh, Dear God – YES !!!!

In the future socialism and communism is coming and it will destroy America. Election fraud must stop. Look how Pelosi tried to steal the seat won by GOP (by 6 votes).

You are correct – But you can’t let this become an obsession for you.

Ways Obsession With Politics Can Ruin Your Life

Gatlin  posted on  2021-04-02   1:58:00 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Gatlin (#12)

I am in Canada, I am a deliver driver listening to Rush Limbaugh all the time, though the radio reception is terrible.

Though I don't agree with everything he said, he had indicated so many times Trump won the election by huge margin.

That's what I meant when I said he would not agree with you. Trump also said he won but the election was stolen.

And I would not lie to you, many times he said Trump actually won, voting fraud is extensive. There is no reason for me to lie to you here, I listened to him almost every day.

Of course I understand many don't believe him.

Arizona is not examining the votes by hand, they may find something there.

There are many more stuff that are not coming out yet, and may never come out.

tankumo  posted on  2021-04-02   16:04:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: tankumo, and Everyone (#13)

I am in Canada …

Are you an American, a Canadian or another nationality “in Canada.”

… I am a deliver driver listening to Rush Limbaugh all the time, though the radio reception is terrible.

Rush Limbaugh, Conservative Radio Titan, Dies At 70.

Are you listening to “rebroadcasts” – or do you mean that you used to listen to Rush?

I was an avid listener to Rush from the day of his first broadcast.

Though I don't agree with everything he said, he had indicated so many times Trump won the election by huge margin.

Yes, Rush did that at times.

One of those times:

On Inauguration Day, Rush Limbaugh falsely claims Joe Biden didn’t ‘legitimately’ win,

You said that you “don’t agree with everything that [Rush] said – then what factual reasons did you use to agree with Rush about this?

That's what I meant when I said he would not agree with you. Trump also said he won but the election was stolen.

I understand – and Trump did say that “many times.”

And I would not lie to you, many times he said Trump actually won, voting fraud is extensive. There is no reason for me to lie to you here, I listened to him almost every day.

Rush could have said that a “zillon” times – but Rash saying something does not in itself make it to be true.

Of course I understand many don't believe him.

Why did you believe him? On what basis did you form your belief? Was it simply because “Rush said it?”

Arizona is not examining the votes by hand, they may find something there.

I feel certain they will find ‘something” there – Place close attention to who is doing the audit:

The Hill: Arizona Senate hires firm that spread election lie to audit county results.

It is important to note that the: The Hill is a conservative newspaper and website founded in 1994.

There are many more stuff that are not coming out yet, and may never come out.

You have no way of knowing that.

False Hope Syndrome: Let go of unrealistic goals and expectations.

Gatlin  posted on  2021-04-02   16:56:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Gatlin (#14)

I listened to him when he was alive.

Some of the things he said I know for sure is false, like he said second hand smoke is not harmful, eating vegetables is not helpful to your health, all teachers are bad, these are not true.

Some are true. Like he said if ice in a glass with water melts, the water level will not rise.

But he did make good cases how socialism will destroy a nation.

I know there are many things don't come out yet because some are trying to bury them, and I am sure you know it too.

tankumo  posted on  2021-04-03   21:46:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: tankumo, and Everyone (#15)

But he [Rush] did make good cases how socialism will destroy a nation.

Rush made many great cases on lots of things.

I know there are many things don't come out yet because some are trying to bury them, and I am sure you know it too.

No, I don’t know that. I feel that whatever was of any possible importance has now been revealed.

But – oh dear God – do I ever hope that you could be right …

Gatlin  posted on  2021-04-03   23:09:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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