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New Discovery! 2023 Hottest in over 120 Million Years 2024 and beyond in prophecy Questions Status: Not Logged In; Sign In United States News See other United States News Articles Title: Donald Trump Fought For Us. Now It’s Our Turn Source: the federalist URL Source: https://thefederalist.com/2021/01/2 ... ought-for-us-now-its-our-turn/ Published: Jan 27, 2021 Author: David Marcus Post Date: 2021-01-27 20:23:40 by tankumo Keywords: None Views: 18105 Comments: 86 (Yes, we will fight with you, we want Trump back.) Back in the early days of the Donald Trump phenomenon, whenever he supposedly got out of line a recurring joke about him was, “But he fights.” The pundits laughed. The poor rubes suckered by Trump were supposedly taken in by some canard that he was a fighter. But the fact is he was, he won a lot of those fights, and his voters are better off for those wins. Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 47. #6. To: tankumo (#0) Donald Trump Fought For Us He didn't fight to protect the vote. Mail in ballots over threw the will of the American people. Worse still, he embraced the corona hoax. On 3-22-2020 he declared a national emergency which then allowed governors and mayors to declare never ending lockdowns, mask mandates, and God knows what else the commies want to do to us. After throwing his supporters under bus on Jan. 6th, I'm having a hard time with this idea that he fought for us. watchman  posted on  2021-01-27   22:16:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #25. To: watchman (#6) …the corona hoax … The number of Covid-19 virus cases in the United States exceeded 26 million today, while overall – authorities in 219 countries and territories have reported about 103.2 million Covid‑19 virus cases. How can you possibly call this a “hoax?” Hoax Definition: “A humorous or malicious deception.” There is certainty you pandemic-deniers are not on the same page with reality. You refuse to wear a face mask or publicly disregard social distancing rules. Some deniers even raise their indignation and anger to an unnecessarily dramatic level of outrage. And we constantly hear front and center that it is your rights. Oftentimes, your dramas suggest such a grim confidence and certainty, as if it is firmly grounded in some reassuring conspiracy theory. Other times your denial may suggest instead a concealed distress with a desperation masquerading as total disbelief. When such a strong grip on your beliefs becomes excessive and overdetermined, it can easily suggest a lurking fear of losing one's grip. So, one might wonder. Might that tight grip be just what is holding you pandemic-deniers together mentally – thinking that you feel level-headed? Gatlin  posted on  2021-02-01   15:53:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #27. To: watchman (#25) Watchman: …the corona hoax … Pandemic's Deadliest Month in US Ends With Signs of Progress. The deadliest month of the coronavirus outbreak in the U.S. has drawn to a close with certain signs of progress: COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations are plummeting, while vaccinations are picking up speed. The deadliest month yet of the coronavirus outbreak in the U.S. drew to a close with certain signs of progress: COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations are plummeting, while vaccinations are picking up speed. The question is whether the nation can stay ahead of the fast-spreading mutations of the virus. The U.S. death toll has climbed past 440,000, with over 95,000 lives lost in January alone. Deaths are running at about 3,150 per day on average, down slightly by about 200 from their peak in mid-January. But as the calendar turned to February on Monday, the number of Americans in the hospital with COVID-19 fell below 100,000 for the first time in two months. New cases of infection are averaging about 148,000 day, falling from almost a quarter-million in mid-January. And cases are trending downward in all 50 states. “While the recent decline in cases and hospital admissions are encouraging, they are counterbalanced by the stark reality that in January we recorded the highest number of COVID-19 deaths in any month since the pandemic began," said Dr. Rochelle Walensky, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Deaths do not move in perfect lockstep up or down with the infection curve. They are a lagging indicator, because it can take a few weeks for people to get sick and die from COVID-19. Dr. Philip Landrigan, an epidemiologist at Boston College, said vaccines are a factor in the sharp drop in cases but are not the primary cause. Instead, he said, the crisis has become increasingly “depoliticized” in recent weeks as more people come to grips with the threat and how they can help slow the spread of the virus. “I don’t think you can underestimate the importance of this culture change. I think it’s critically important,” he said. After a slow start, the vaccination drive that began in mid-December is picking up the pace. More than 32.2 million doses have been administered in the U.S., according to the CDC. That is up from 16.5 million on the day President Joe Biden took office, Jan. 20. The number of shots dispensed in the week and a half since Biden's inauguration has been running at around 1.3 million per day on average, well over the president's oft-stated goal of 1 million per day. More than 5.9 million Americans have received the required two doses, the CDC said. However, the CDC reported Monday that many nursing home workers are not getting their shots when doses are first offered. Researchers looked at more than 11,000 nursing homes and other such facilities that had at least one vaccination clinic between mid-December and mid-January. While 78% of residents got at least one shot, only 37.5% of staff members did. Surveys suggest some nursing home workers are skeptical of the shots' effectiveness and don’t think viruses spread easily from them to the people they care for. Three mutated variants of the virus from Britain, South Africa and Brazil have been detected in the U.S. The British one spreads more easily and is believed to be deadlier, but the South Africa one is prompting even more concern because of early indications that vaccines may not be as protective against it. The more the virus spreads, the more opportunities it has to mutate. Walensky urged Americans to get vaccinated as soon as shots become available to them, and stressed it’s no time to relax basic precautions such as wearing masks. Meanwhile, a snowstorm Monday forced the closing of many vaccination sites in the Northeast, including in New York City and Connecticut. And a plan to reopen Chicago schools to roughly 62,000 students for the first time since March remained in doubt. Last-minute negotiations over COVID-19 safety measures with the teachers’ union stalled, increasing the possibility of a strike or lockout if educators do not show up for work. https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-02- 01/pandemics-deadliest-month-in-us-ends-with-signs-of-progress We can only wonder how quickly we might have beaten back COVID-19 if those so eager to deny reality had instead focused on stopping the spread of coronavirus. Because so many still refuse to accept the reality of this pandemic, the rest of us are at greater risk. Gatlin  posted on  2021-02-02   3:45:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #29. To: Gatlin (#27) We can only wonder how quickly we might have beaten back COVID-19 if those so eager to deny reality had instead focused on stopping the spread of coronavirus. Because so many still refuse to accept the reality of this pandemic, the rest of us are at greater risk. Why no flu this year. I don't wear a mask and never got the virus. People who wear the masks (look sickly and stupid) have got he virus. The mask makes you more susceptible to the virus because it holds it there and makes you breathe it over and over. A K A Stone  posted on  2021-02-02   9:06:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #33. To: A K A Stone (#29) The mask makes you more susceptible to the virus because it holds it there and makes you breathe it over and over. The entire world is masked up, but Covid cases keep increasing. Therefore...masks are spreading the virus. Warn everyone! watchman  posted on  2021-02-02   10:02:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #37. To: watchman, A K A Stone (#33) The entire world is masked up, but Covid cases keep increasing. Face masks slow spread of COVID-19. Furthermore: “Pandemic could be stopped if at least 70 percent of the public wore face masks consistently.” Using face masks to help slow the spread of COVID-19 has been widely recommended by health professionals. This has triggered studies of the materials, design, and other issues affecting the way face masks work. In a new study, investigators looked at research on face masks and their use and summarized what we know about the way they filter or block the virus. They also summarize design issues that still need to be addressed. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/11/201124111349.htm Gatlin  posted on  2021-02-02   12:43:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #38. To: Gatlin (#37) if at least 70 percent of the public wore face masks consistently 95-100 percent of the public wears a mask. Covid is spreading. The masks are speading the virus. It's science. watchman  posted on  2021-02-02   12:50:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #40. To: watchman (#38) First you say : Covid is a hoax, Then you say here that: Covid is spreading. Which is it … Gatlin  posted on  2021-02-02   14:45:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #41. To: Gatlin (#40) Which is it … Isn't it obvious? The hoax is spreading. Duh... watchman  posted on  2021-02-02   15:29:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #42. To: watchman (#41) Which is it … Isn't it obvious? The hoax is spreading. Duh... The coronavirus pandemic is not a hoax or a conspiracy to control the general public: A video shared online has claimed that the coronavirus pandemic is a hoax and part of a conspiracy to control the general public. This is false. A post sharing the video can be viewed here (here). The opening sequence shows billionaire philanthropist Bill Gates, warning that “we will have to prepare” for the next pandemic. The narrator then uses points to argue that the pandemic was planned, and claims it is a hoax that is being used as an excuse to control the general public. CLAIM 1 - THE VIRUS THAT CAUSES COVID-19 HASN’T BEEN IDENTIFIED OR ISOLATED “They’ve never isolated it or actually identified this virus as actually existing, so the whole thing is just a big scam”, the narrator claims (here). This is not true. Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS- CoV-2) is the name of the virus that causes the disease COVID-19 (here). According to the World Health Organization (WHO), the virus was identified by Chinese authorities on January 7, 2020 (tinyurl.com/y5at3vke). CLAIM 2 - TEST FOR COVID-19 BROADLY TESTS FOR RNA VIRUSES AND GENETIC MATERIAL “Of course, the more people they test, then the more people are going to test positive because they’re just testing for RNA viruses and genetic material”, the narrator alleges (here). It is false that the COVID-19 test broadly detects all RNA viruses rather than SARS-CoV-2 specifically. An RNA virus is a virus that has RNA as its genetic material (here). Human diseases caused by RNA viruses include COVID-19 (here), SARS, influenza and Ebola disease (here). The Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR) test used to detect SARS-CoV-2 works by detecting the presence of its RNA in the swab sample (here). Each virus has its own pattern of RNA material, and the test for coronavirus tests for the RNA material of SARS-CoV-2 specifically. CLAIM 3 - ALL DEATHS ARE BEING LABELLED AS COVID-19 “All deaths are basically being labelled as COVID deaths now whether they are or not. All you have to do is test positive for this genetic material in your body and it’ll say COVID-19” (here). In the UK, data on COVID-19 deaths published by the Office of National Statistics (ONS) includes deaths “involving COVID-19”. This includes deaths that have COVID-19 mentioned anywhere on the death certificate, whether it is an underlying cause or not (here). However, the ONS says that: “In the majority of cases (46,736 deaths, 92.8%) where COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate, it was found to be the underlying cause of death”. It is wrong to say that all deaths are being recorded as COVID deaths. One indication of how many deaths have been caused by the pandemic is the number of ‘excess deaths’ recorded, or additional deaths compared to the number usually expected during a given time period. An ONS report shows that England and Wales saw spikes in the number of excess deaths that reflect the number of COVID-19 deaths that were reported at that time (see Figure 2) (here). In June, the ONS reported that there were around 64,500 excess deaths across the UK for the time of year using a five-year average, though the figure is now likely to be higher (here). VERDICT False. The coronavirus pandemic is not a hoax; it is a global outbreak caused by the virus SARS-CoV-2. Click here for source. “Duh” right back at you … Gatlin  posted on  2021-02-02   16:44:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #44. To: Gatlin (#42) to control the general public Are you prepared to face the consequences of the world you are helping to create? Lucifer, whom you unwittingly serve, is not here to "control the general public". He's here to destroy it. The Covid masks are being worn world wide. Thus, they indicate that the world is UNIFYIED, even if it's through nothing more than a piece of fabric worn on the face. Everybody is wearing a mask, virtually the entire population of the Earth. Amazing isn't it? Now God went to great lengths to separate the peoples of the world, especially through language. Why, Gatlin, did He do this? Well, the answer is to prevent the world from unifying AGAINST Him. To stop a world wide rebellion, which would put an end to God's plans for mankind. And the Lord said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. What the people "imagine to do" is to live independently from God. They even want to be as God...reaching into heaven itself. They imagine an existence apart from God and without God. John Lennon: Imagine there's no heaven...It's easy if you try...No hell below us...Above us only sky...Imagine all the people living for today...I hope some day you'll join us...And the world will be as one Lucifer knows if the world fully unites as one...God will destroy the whole thing. The world wide mask wearing is the first step toward world unity. You're playing right into Lucifer's hands...to be eternally destroyed. You ready for that? And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon (Destroyer). watchman  posted on  2021-02-02   17:36:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #45. To: watchman (#44) Are you prepared to face the consequences of the world you are helping to create? In this world, we constantly face numerous daily challenges that will always test our emotional mettle. Sometime it takes the form of injury, illness, unemployment, grief, divorce, death, or even a new undertaking with a yet unknown future. Yes, I am fully prepared to face any and all challenges in an unknown future and develop strategies to carry me through. I am not one to turn away from life – I will always turn towards life. I have no use for avoidance. I will diligently present myself to enjoy life, to be most effective in it – and I do this by orienting myself towards facing reality. Lucifer … There you go again – Letting your satanophobia take complete control of your life. Satanophobia is the fear of satan. This fear is associated with demonophobia (fear of demons) and stygiophobia (fear of hell). These people are scared of burning in hell forever and being tortured by the demons and being anguished forever in hell and being tormented by Satan. The fear and threat of Lucifer is always what you fall back on with you lose in discussions and cannot support your claims or causes. The Covid masks are being worn world wide. Thus, they indicate that the world is UNIFYIED, even if it's through nothing more than a piece of fabric worn on the face. Everybody is wearing a mask, virtually the entire population of the Earth. Amazing isn't it? No – There is nothing amazing about that. … [God] to prevent the world from unifying AGAINST Him. To stop a world wide rebellion, which would put an end to God's plans for mankind. The Great Reellion Aganst God: Bible prophecy lists numerous signs that will precede Jesus Christ’s second coming, but the Apostle Paul specifically notes two major events that will occur just before Christ returns. He writes, “that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition” (2 Thessalonians 2:3). Paul tells us that the appearance of this “man of sin” on the world stage will be accompanied by “signs, and lying wonders” performed by a false religious leader using Satan’s power (2 Thessalonians 2:9). This display of supernatural demonic power will deceive millions into following this Satan-inspired individual and the system he is promoting. Meanwhile, the Western nations are rapidly abandoning any former pretense of nominal Christianity. “Mainline” churches that for centuries upheld “traditional biblical values” now champion same-sex marriage, practicing homosexual clergymen (and clergywomen), and open denial of the inspiration of Scripture. Backlash against these trends is driving some Episcopalians and Anglicans into the Roman Catholic Church, even while many Roman Catholics are leaving their church, citing dismay and disillusionment at the way the “pedophile priest scandal” has been handled. In many Western nations, Islam is now the fastest-growing religion. What has happened to the long-held assumption that Jesus Christ would return to establish His Kingdom? Despite liberal trends and false teachings, the fact remains that Jesus will “come again” (John 14:1–3), that His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives by Jerusalem and He will reign over all the earth (Zechariah 14:1–9). The Bible also records that specific “signs” will precede Jesus’ return: increasing violence and wars, frequent floods, droughts and famines, disease epidemics, earthquakes and other natural disasters (see Matthew 24; Mark 13; Luke 21). However, a major sign will be widespread religious deception promoted by false religious leaders who perform “great signs and wonders” (Matthew 24:3–5, 11, 24). The Scriptures state that the return of Jesus Christ will surprise the world because people will not be watching for the warning signs that will indicate that His return is near (Matthew 24:36–41; 25:1–13; 1 Thessalonians 5:1–6). In the book of Revelation, the Apostle John describes a beast, coming up out of the sea, that is influenced and given power by Satan (the dragon— Revelation 13:1–5). This beast will be a political leader who will gain power in Europe over a final revival of a political system that has links to the ancient Roman Empire (see Daniel 2; 7). John then foretells the appearance of another beast who “performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down from heaven… and he deceives those who dwell on earth by those signs” (Revelation 13:11–18). This miracle-working false prophet will be in league with the first beast and bring pressure on the peoples of the world to become part of this revived Roman system. Together, the political leader and the miracle-working false prophet will lead the world into a Satan-inspired system that will be totally contrary to the laws of God. This will be the ultimate fulfillment of the “falling away” or “great apostasy” against God that the Apostle Paul described in 2 Thessalonians 2:3. Bible prophecies reveal this is coming in the years just ahead! MISTAKEN ASSUMPTIONS As many readers of this magazine know, the organization led by Mr. Herbert W. Armstrong for more than 50 years underwent a terrible crisis in the early 1990s, as his successors abandoned long-held doctrines of God’s Church and tried to bring the organization into “mainstream Christianity.” Scores of thousands left the Worldwide Church of God as its doctrines were changed. That organization even changed its name, acknowledging openly that it no longer considers itself a “Church of God.” So, could that have been the “falling away” prophesied by Scripture? No less an authority than Mr. Armstrong himself would disagree with that assertion. On many occasions, Mr. Armstrong plainly taught that the “falling away” mentioned in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 would be an event affecting the vast mass of human beings around the world. He wrote in a co-worker letter, “Christ foretold a turning away from His message… [Paul] prophesied there would be a Great Falling Away from Christ’s true message…the popular churches would turn away from the Truth and believe fables” (November 11, 1949). Later, in a 1982 radio broadcast, he asked, “Has that falling away happened? That doesn’t mean a few people, it doesn’t mean a few radicals or fanatics. The whole world was to be deceived!” Was the “whole world” deceived when Mr. Armstrong’s successors split their church? Though this was a traumatic event, it affected only a relatively small number of people, and the church’s leaders displayed no powerful miracles to gain the loyalty of followers. There is no scriptural way to identify the prophesied “man of sin” with either of the men who succeeded Mr. Armstrong as the head of that organization. Notice that the phrase translated as “falling away” in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 in the NKJV comes from the Greek word apostasia. Although English- speakers may be inclined to translate this word as “apostasy,” and “falling away” has become a commonly accepted phrasing, these are actually not the best translations. Consider how several other translations render this word: “the great revolt” (Williams), “the rebellion” (Moffatt), or “the final rebellion against God” (NEB). No credible translation gives any indication that this massive global event could in fact involve just a few thousand members of one organization. Rather, it involves an outright worldwide rebellion, of unprecedented proportion, against any semblance of belief in the God of the Bible. Here is how the Expositor’s Bible Commentary describes this momentous event: “Conditions will be ripe for people, especially those who call themselves Christian… to turn their backs on God… This worldwide anti- God movement will be so universal as to earn for itself a special designation: ‘the apostasy’… the presence of such an apostasy and counterfeit god will not escape international observation” (volume 11, pp. 320–323). We are living in an age in which the so-called “Christian” world is drifting further and further away from God and the moral principles found in the Bible. Nations that once claimed to be Christian are now promoting homosexuality and same-sex marriage—and even persecuting those who quote the Bible! What about the United States? President Barack Obama, while running for office, famously observed, “Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation—at least, not just. We are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, and a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers.” Some nominal believers were offended, even outraged, by his words, but he was correct—the U.S. no longer looks to biblical principles as its anchor. This trend will continue. Within the lifetimes of most of you reading this article, two Satan-inspired individuals—a miracle-working religious figure and a charismatic European political leader—will appear on the world stage and lead the masses of humanity in rebellion against the true God. Finally, near the very end of this age, this blasphemous religious figure will declare himself to be God, commanding the allegiance of billions who will join him in a final rebellion against the returning Jesus Christ (2 Thessalonians 2:4). You need to be alert and watch for these significant end-time events so you can avoid being deceived when the prophecies come alive! Click here for source. You trying to tie “MASKS” into this is a “MISTAKEN ASSUMPTION.” What the people "imagine to do" is to live independently from God. They even want to be as God...reaching into heaven itself. They imagine an existence apart from God and without God. There is nothing wrong with that. Lucifer knows if the world fully unites as one...God will destroy the whole thing. The world wide mask wearing is the first step toward world unity. BULSHIT – BULLSHIT – BULLSHIT … You don’t KNOW this. You're playing right into Lucifer's hands... And here you go again – Letting your satanophobia take complete control of your life. Disgusting … Gatlin  posted on  2021-02-02   18:57:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #47. To: Gatlin (#45) I will diligently present myself to enjoy life There will be no joy. The masktard world you promote has already killed off all beauty, art, and culture. The Covid hoax has weakened the nation's resolve and unity. The will of the people has been overthrown in the election. Now our borders are open to every dreg of the third world. Our children have had their childhoods stolen through masking and lockdown. And you have had championed this from the very beginning. Where will you find any joy ever again? threat of Lucifer Lucifer has taken advantage of you due to your ignorance of his devices. There is nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with living without God? Nothing wrong trying to take the place of God? Are you sure about that? You don’t KNOW this. The only reason Lucifer is uniting the world is to fight God. That is the whole teaching of Armegeddon. And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon. For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful. 11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 21 And the remnant (of humans) were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh. These are the consequences of the world you are helping to create. watchman  posted on  2021-02-02   21:16:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 47. #48. To: watchman (#47) A Christian is called to love God with all of his or her mind. Thus, political, economic, moral, legal, and scientific issues must be fairly depicted and intelligently and thoughtfully pondered. Unfairly depicting opponents and their arguments is prohibited, as is neglecting to do the hard intellectual work of deep study and arrogantly refusing the insights of trained, knowledgeable experts in various fields. Christians are sometimes guilty of this kind of indiscretion. And even worse, they can be proud of their anti- intellectualism when they ought to be ashamed. It truly is wicked, since it involves intentional rejection of one third of the greatest commandment. Repeating: Political, economic, moral, legal, and scientific issues must be fairly depicted and intelligently and thoughtfully pondered. The increasing frequency of Christian forms of fanaticism such as yours is alarming. For although we live in a technologically and scientifically advanced age, we also live in an age of widespread ignorance. But whatever the cultural norms, youe fanaticism about Christianity is unbiblical, unwarranted, and has no place in our lives. Gatlin  posted on  2021-02-02 21:40:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #50. To: watchman (#47) While many Christian Americans are thoughtful and productive people simply going about their daily lives like the rest of us, there exists within our country a fanatical segment of Christian followers whose ideology is tarnishing our country and obstructing our progression. Here are 10 common ways Christian fanaticism is obstructing American progress: 1.) Deeper Division of the classes. Although the Christian Bible quite plainly repeatedly encourages followers to help the needy and poor, many fanatical Christians seemed to have overlooked their book’s message on this subject and have instead chosen to label those who are struggling as “lazy” and undeserving of any kind of relief. This is a problematic disruption for America because instead of supporting our own improvement by helping others escape poverty, many Christians are doing the exact opposite by treating those who need our help the most with disgust and indignation. This mentality only serves to create a deeper divide between the classes of our country. “If among you, one of your brothers should become poor, in any of your towns within your land that the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart or shut your hand against your poor brother, but you shall open your hand to him and lend him sufficient for his need, whatever it may be. Take care lest there be an unworthy thought in your heart and you say, ‘The seventh year, the year of release is near,’ and your eye look grudgingly on your poor brother, and you give him nothing, and he cry to the Lord against you, and you be guilty of sin. You shall give to him freely, and your heart shall not be grudging when you give to him, because for this the Lord your God will bless you in all your work and in all that you undertake. For there will never cease to be poor in the land. Therefore I command you, ‘You shall open wide your hand to your brother, to the needy and to the poor, in your land.” ~Deuteronomy 15:7-11 ESV It is not only ethical for us to treat our fellow citizens with dignity (regardless of their current circumstances), but it benefits us all when we work to find ways to help those who are struggling improve their livelihood, rather than shaming them and banishing them to a life of scarcity. When we help one another, we improve the overall experience of our society, because we create productive citizens who are capable of attaining their own abundance. When we shut them out and cast them aside, we eventually create desperate people who sometimes do desperate things. What we should be doing, whether we are believers or non- believers, is collectively seeking ways to support others in empowering themselves to reach higher standards; not besmirching their existence as our fanatical Christian political propaganda would have us do. 2.) Education – Historical and Scientific inaccuracies. Many fanatical Christians are unable to accept historical events as they occurred and insist on altering history in order to fit their religious version of events. This mental intrusion can be seen in many spectrums of our educational system; including an array of scientific and other academic disciplines. Additionally, fanatical Christians persist in asserting that past genocides and other atrocious acts (such as Hitler’s extermination of the Jews) was not a Christian-instigated endeavor; when in fact, the comments, publications of the time, photos and speeches used in those campaigns suggest otherwise. Even more disturbing is the fanatical Christian (specifically Christian Revisionist) effort to alter public educational instruction so that America’s youth are taught that our nation was founded on Christian principles, rather than the secular values of our founding fathers. This is a problem because many American Christians are not even cognizant of the fact that our original money and pledge never mentions God, nor are they aware that, although many of our founding fathers were men who believed in a god, they were not Christians at all and found the Christian Bible and religion completely oppressive and abhorrent. “Of all the animosities which have existed among mankind, those which are caused by a difference of sentiments in religion appear to be the most inveterate and distressing, and ought to be deprecated. I was in hopes that the enlightened and liberal policy, which has marked the present age, would at least have reconciled Christians of every denomination so far that we should never again see the religious disputes carried to such a pitch as to endanger the peace of society.” ~Founding Father George Washington, letter to Edward Newenham, October 20, 1792 Our founding fathers were free-thinkers of the enlightenment and in fact, a primary reason in them establishing this country was to flee the oppression of their theocratic Christian homeland. In reality America has always been a secular nation from its inception – a fact fanatical Christians want Americans to forget by amending history to fit their agenda. 3.) Climate change denial. Many fanatical Christians are living in denial of the obvious changes happening in our natural environment. This is a dilemma that affects everyone on this planet and must be addressed expediently; or we will all suffer by our own inaction. Rather than working together to improve the health of our planet, many fanatical Christians have chosen to delay the process of expunging our world of harmful toxins and human practices in favor of debating whether climate change actually exists. This ridiculously profound waste-of-time and tax-payer funds is an impediment to Americans using our time wisely to improve our habitat – and thus our own health and human experience. Truthfully, whether climate change exists or not is irrelevant to whether we should be working to improve our natural environment. Is it really necessary that we confirm that our world is suffering in order to comprehend that treating our planet with respect is always the right course of action, regardless of whether the climate is actually changing? Shouldn’t we be consistently working to improve the health of our world and using clean and efficient resources to power our planet? Why must we debate common sense? 4.) Religious voting. Those we elect as the leaders of our nation – who create the laws we all must abide by – is a serious matter. However, many fanatical Christians are not as concerned with a candidate’s ability to effectively perform the duties of their office in a way that serves the people’s interests as they are with the religious belief structure that the candidate chooses to follow. This is an extremely concerning trend that enables leaders to hold positions in this country that empower them to oppress citizens with regulations that benefit their specific religion, irrespective of how those citizens who do not agree with Christian principles will be affected. In fact, that is the intention of fanatical Christian politicians and their electorate – to turn this country into a Christian state where we are all obliged to follow Christian principles of morality and “freedom”. “We should begin by setting conscience free. When all men of all religions shall enjoy equal liberty, property, and an equal chance for honors and power we may expect that improvements will be made in the human character and the state of society.” ~Founding Father John Adams, letter to Dr. Price, April 8, 1785 This is a grim conundrum for countless Americans, because for those of us who follow other religions, or no religion, the threat of Christian theocratic rule is real. It is disturbing when we comprehend what will happen to our freedoms if religious voters and the politicians who lead them are successful in turning our country into an oppressive, religious, legal nightmare. 5.) Ineffective Sexual Education. For decades, fanatical Christians have denied the reality of sex in the human experience by restricting access to comprehensive sexual education for our young citizens. They have done this by implementing (and even using tax dollars to fund) abstinence only programs that simply don’t work. In fact, they can have a detrimental consequence because when we deny our youth of necessary sexual education, many of those youths enter into adulthood ill-prepared for the accountabilities of sexual activity; while also leaving them uninformed of safe sexual conduct. Abstinence only programs are completely ineffective and generally only serve to delay sexual activity by several months, rather than its intended result of preserving virginity until a marital relationship is established. Furthermore, young people who are deprived of comprehensive sexual education in favor of abstinence only teachings (and follow those instructions) often marry earlier than their educated peers as they are convinced that sexual activity is only suitable within the confines of a marital relationship. This can lead to the young person to marry from a place of biological sexual frustration rather than a genuine mental decision – certainly a situation that is not beneficial to any party involved. Additionally, it only stands to reason that if Christians oppose abortion, they must be willing to support the alternative – contraception methods – something taught in comprehensive sexual education. It is unrealistic to expect that a human youth will, in fact, wait until a marital relationship is established to engage in sexual activity – because most don’t, regardless of their original lessons about sex. Sexual education is not only beneficial to overall health of all involved by making people more informed about safe sexual practices, but it is essential for those who oppose abortion to support a resource that actually helps prevent any abortion from ever becoming necessary – but, this is not what happens, because many fanatical Christians are still convinced that restricting sexual activity is effective – when in fact, it’s not; nor will it ever be as it’s in direct opposition to natural human tendencies. 6.) Televangelist con artist and the fear machine. Turn on your television and you can easily find Christian channels full of televangelists making outrageous statements about how god is punishing our country, derogatory declarations about the LGBT community, how atheist should be shipped off somewhere else, and how the end times are upon us. Interestingly, after filling the viewers mind with fear and hatred towards their fellow citizens, they proceed by insisting on a financial offering, which many followers freely provide. Meanwhile, these same televangelist live in multi-million dollar homes, build extravagant churches and do very little to actually help those who are truly in need, all while paying no taxes to spread their propaganda and exerting huge influence over millions of American voters. This is disconcerting as it vastly contributes to perpetuating a religious cultural fear and discrimination in our society while swindling the believer out of their hard-earned resources. At the same time, followers of these con artists are mentally persuaded that their hatred and bigotry towards their peers is justified as good moral conduct and that their ideas place them in a mental position of superiority based solely on religious contentions. This is a problem because millions of Americans rely on these religious tricksters for their religious instruction, and those teachings translate into votes for politicians whose policies affect everyone in this country. 7.) The continuation of the war on drugs. There is an enormous problem within our prison system that has been largely understated for many decades. Our “war on drugs” is a monumental failure that has done nothing more than incarcerate addicts and perpetuate a cycle of crime; often leaving those same individuals unable to become productive members of society after they are left with a record that hinders their ability to find gainful employment. All this, while private prisons make record profits off of imprisoning non-violent drug-users, instead of helping them recover from addictions. Many fanatical Christians (especially those Christian politicians who are in a position to influence federal and state laws) are perpetuating this problem by insisting that our failed war on drugs must remain the standard for our treatment of drug users. This is absurd because it is obvious that our current method of imprisoning drug users and addicts is highly ineffective and wildly expensive for non-profit prisons supported by tax payer funds. Yet, many fanatical Christians are against drug law reform and insist on preserving a system that criminalizes drug users rather than helping them recover from addictions and become more productive members of our society. While many of our more free-thinking politicians and citizens’ support reforming our current stance on drugs in America to a more humane and helpful program, fanatical Christians continue to obstruct progress in this area by refusing to acknowledge – and work to change – the problem. 8.) Representation without taxation. Most religious institutions in America are exempt from paying taxes, yet Christian fanatics and politicians insist on forcing a religious Christian agenda onto the American public – all while paying no taxes to support the various financial necessities of our country. There is a reason religious institutions don’t pay taxes – because they are not supposed to be represented by our government. “The civil government functions with complete success by the total separation of the Church from the State.” ~Founding Father James Madison, 1819, Writings, 8:432, quoted from Gene Garman, “Essays In Addition to America’s Real Religion” Our government is explicitly discouraged from supporting one specific religion as a federal endorsement of religious concepts. Our founding fathers understood this necessity to separate religion from governmental functions in order that all may remain free to worship (or not) according to their own conscience. However, some Christian fanatics have attempted to redefine the meaning of “religious freedom” by demanding their religion be given special representation by our government, above all other religious organizations and creeds. They do this by insisting that our country was founded on Christian principles and relentless attempts to force federal laws to submit to Christian concepts. 9.) Forced Division. If there were no push to turn this country into a Christian theocracy, to eliminate and restrict the rights of women, LGBT and other minority groups. If there were no voter fraud meant to keep progressive ideas from advancing the minds and experiences of our country’s people. If there were no Christian fight for the right to publicly discriminate against the LGBT community. If there were no obstruction of science, technology, history and sexual education, among many other issues – there would be no necessity to counter it, and therefore, less division of our population over ideas that affect us all. Christian fanatics force this country to divide amongst itself because those who are unwilling to have their lives and thoughts religiously dictated to them through legal processes must react. It is essential that they react – because if they don’t, they will soon find themselves in a precarious situation, where the life and freedom they once knew is taken from them by a group of people whose values do not reflect their own. For this reason, our courts often uphold rulings that keep religion (all religion) out of the public square; and even then, Christian fanatics cry foul when they are unable to use their religion to dominate an entire nation and its people. “Knowledge and liberty are so prevalent in this country, that I do not believe that the United States would ever be disposed to establish one religious sect, and lay all others under legal disabilities. But as we know not what may take place hereafter, and any such test would be exceedingly injurious to the rights of free citizens, I cannot think it altogether superfluous to have added a clause, which secures us from the possibility of such oppression.” ~Founding Father Oliver Wolcott, Connecticut Ratifying Convention, 9 January 1788 It is unfortunate that we are unable to agree on the most basic principles of many aspects of American life and freedom, but if those who don’t agree with Christian fanatics don’t speak up – who chooses? What principles reign over our country? And who then will speak for those who don’t identify with those ideas? What becomes of their rights? Their justice in courts? Their freedoms? There must be a retort in order to prevent our country from losing the freedom and unity that we as a people are fully capable of enjoying, so long as the proclamations of our founding documents are upheld. 10.) Global credibility. Much of the developed world has already reached a perceptive and educated understanding that our religions are merely our current myths, just as our past religions were the ideas we understand as fables today. However, American Christian fanatics refuse to concede what is already palpable to much of the developed global community. Our reluctance to surrender our archaic ideas and embrace reality has left a stain on our credibility, because more informed citizens of other developed countries perceive our citizens as gullible and undereducated. Furthermore, when our Christian leaders use their power to alter history and our educational system to fit into their religious concepts (rather than thoroughly researched and proven facts) our citizens become less equipped to compete in a world where facts, evidence and knowledge are increasingly important and necessary for global opportunity and expansion. Christian fanatics love to live in a country where we are all free to practice our religion as we please. However, their view of “religious freedom”, truly only applies to one specific belief – their own. What their words and actions honestly exhibit, is that: we are free to worship as we choose (or not), just so long as we agree that Jesus is god, that our nation is a Christian nation and that all citizens should accept and acknowledge the Christian political, social and moral agenda. In reality, the Christian fanatic is not concerned with religious freedom at all – they are concerned only with religious supremacy and using their religion to coerce our nation into abandoning its secular, enlightenment and free-thinking roots. Religious liberty is not achieved by enabling one religion to attain political and legal dominance over a nation; it is achieved by comprehending that one religious group must never achieve that authority. Click here for the source. Gatlin  posted on  2021-02-02 21:55:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #62. To: watchman (#47) … threat of Lucifer … NIO Shareholders Are 'Dealing With The Devil' I am looking at emerging markets to find fairly priced value investments as average valuations are lower there than in the US or other developed markets. NIO (NYSE:NIO) is the 8th largest holding on the emerging market ETF and I took a look. Unfortunately, I haven't found anything that would even give a glimpse of value or justify the current market capitalization and I'll shortly share the key risks I individuated when analyzing NIO. For the full analysis including the bull and bear thesis, a bit of George Carlin style sarcasm, you can enjoy my NIO stock video at the bottom of this article. RISK 1 - Analysts are bullish On average, analysts are bullish on new Chinese EV players and consequently also bullish about NIO. On Seeking Alpha, investment bank analysts are even more bullish than independent analysts. I found it very surprising that investment bank analysts are bullish on a company that was bailed out by the Chinese government not even a year ago (more about that in RISK 2), that sold just 43,728 vehicles in 2020, burned $7.5 billion since inception, will keep burning much more cash over the coming years, is operating in a highly cyclical, cut throat margin industry heavily depending on fast changing customer preferences and on top of it all has a market capitalization of $90 billion. That is $2,058,177 per car sold in 2020. Well, I quickly found the reason for Wall Street's bullishness. In a recent interview, Jeremy Grantham said how Wall Street has absolutely no incentive to stop bubbles because: "you make money by keeping the bubble going". A look at the figure below will tell you why Wall Street analysts will likely keep pumping NIO stock. This tells me that analysts don't look at fundamentals as their incentive lies elsewhere. As Charlie Munger says in his Almanack; to know with whom you are dealing with, always reverse engineer his incentives first. For me, the clear incentive analysts have to be bullish, creates a long- term risk as few are focused on the fundamentals the therefore the market's perception gets distorted. RISK 2 - Dealing with the devil Apart from analyst having their own incentives, I think NIO's key shareholders might have a different interest to what you might have as a shareholder owning NIO stock traded on the NYSE. I should correct myself, the key shareholders of NIO China, are likely to have different interests. As NIO was in a bad situation at the beginning of 2020, the company was bailed out by the Chinese government. Now, all would be fine if the Chinese government, in this case the province of Hefei, would have bailed out NIO from an equal position as you bought your shares. The thing is that all the assets of NIO in China were transferred to a new company called NIO China. Of which NIO, the thing you own, got 75.88% while the other strategic investors 24.115%. Since then, NIO has invested further into NIO China and the distribution of ownership is now 86.5% for NIO while other investors still have time to decide whether to increase their share of ownership. Now, as NIO China, that holds all the key assets, is likely going to continue to burn cash for the next 5 to 10 years as it grows, I wonder whether the other investors, i.e. the government of China, will fund NIO China at their own terms or they will respect NIO's valuation on the US stock market? As this is a long term RMB financing agreement NIO made with the government, I would say NIO sold its soul to the devil and there is a big risk that US traded NIO shareholders might be regarded as secondary and get the short end of the deal. This is a big risk, especially given the valuation of $90 billion for what actually is 86% of the real NIO China or probably even 76% if the government decides to add more money and increase its stake. Thus, NIO's full valuation should be around $104 billion based on the 86% stake in NIO China or $118 billion based on the 76% stake. RISK 3 - Chinese owned businesses traded in US markets I've been analyzing Chinese businesses for a while now, did really good with some, got burnt on others. But my general feeling regarding Chinese stocks now is that there where is smoke, there is also usually a fire. Perhaps it is just a small fire now, but given the current valuation and the initial stages of NIO's business development, the risks are simply too big to justify the valuation. Talking about NIO's founder, in 2015 I have analyzed his former company Bitauto and figured how despite the stock price decline of 70%, it is still overpriced. What is often the case with Chinese companies going public in the US is that those enjoy a period of exuberance when family members and friends sell their stakes, and then the market forgets about the stock and goes private again as investors start to focus on the real fundamentals while the promises are often broken. Bitauto did exactly that, it had been a public company for more than 10 years, only to go private at a similar price that it went public. Further, during the first Bitcoin craze in 2017, in 90% of the conference calls I listened from Chinese companies traded in the US, blockchain was mentioned as a great way to improve business. Fast forward 3 years, few mention blockchain, but most now mention EV related adventures. Is it because it is such a profitable industry or you can easily smooch a few billions from naïve US investors hoping to be exposed to the booming EV market in China? NIO stock investing conclusion Given the NIO and the complexity created by the NIO China issue, the fact that the company will not be profitable soon and that NIO China will need significant capital injections in the future, I feel that the market might get quickly bored with NIO, especially if there are more ownership shenanigans with different rights for different shareholders (given the partner it is very likely there will be more) and we could see the stock sharply decline over time and then go private again at much lower valuations that the current one. In the meantime, NIO gets billions out of US markets through capital rising rounds that all fits well the Chinese agreement - Chinese NIO shareholders get rich by selling shares, US dollars fund the building of factories, production, technology development and jobs in China, all leading to the increasing of the wellbeing and power of the People's Republic of China at the cost of US shareholders. There are plenty more risks regarding NIO, from the fact that it is an automotive company operating in a very cyclical industry, that the competition is extremely fierce and everybody wants to make EVs these days to the fact that the company spends $100,000 to make a car and sells it for $50,000. So, anyways, I will stay away from NIO. A click here leads to source. I am selling my shares in NIO at the opening tomorrow. And since you seem pretty close with Lucifer’s actions – You can tell old Lucifer that he lost this one. IALAU … Gatlin  posted on  2021-02-03 19:27:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   End Trace Mode for Comment # 47. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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