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Title: Liz Cheney: Trump should respect ‘the sanctity of our electoral process’
Source: Geller Report
URL Source: https://gellerreport.com/2020/11/li ... of-our-electoral-process.html/
Published: Nov 24, 2020
Author: Politico Staff
Post Date: 2020-11-24 08:07:19 by IbJensen
Keywords: None
Views: 913
Comments: 54

Many Republicans are predictably abandoning President Trump, even before the legal process is complete. Republicans such as Liz Cheney, Pat Toomey and others need to understand that they are going to pay a big price at the ballot box for betraying President Trump. Just like Fox News has paid a big price in the ratings for betraying President Trump on election night.

Liz Cheney exemplifies the Republican Party pre-Trump: weak, cowardly, timid, and disloyal. A party that was incapable of winning national elections. Stay the course, Mr. President. We got your back.

“If the President cannot prove these claims or demonstrate that they would change the election result, he should fulfill his oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States by respecting the sanctity of our electoral process,” she added

minority Leader Kevin McCarthy and others in House leadership have largely backed Trump as he contests the election results and continues to baselessly claim he won the race.

Sen. Susan Collins on Friday joined the minority of Republicans willing to speak out against the president, saying that by refusing to concede Trump was denying President-elect Joe Biden access to briefings, office space and government resources he would need in the lead up to his inauguration.

Collins also slammed Trump for seeking to “pressure” state election officials working to certify their results, including hosting a delegation of Michigan lawmakers at the White House.

“There is a right way and a wrong way to compile the evidence and mount legal challenges in our courts,” the Maine senator said. “The wrong way is to attempt to pressure state election officials. That undermines the public’s faith in our election results without evidence and court rulings to support the allegations.”

Yet, the number of congressional Republicans willing to go against Trump or his base remains small. Tennessee Sen. Marsha Blackburn — a staunch Trump ally — backpedaled after referring to Biden as “president-elect” in an interview with ABC News on Friday. Her office later told The Tennessean that she “misspoke.”


Poster Comment:

How in the hell can any 'conservative' American respect the 'sanctity' of our electoral process when it is so obviously corrupt as to render it null and void? Liz Cheney is a creature crawling out of the swamp unsuccessfully; in fact she's treading water and will sink to her rightful place at the bottom.

Most of the Republicrats in Congress enjoy being the party of do-nothings and prefer their minority status. They still get paid and have access to shady deals but get to avoid the spotlight. We know the truth! Biden was plucked out of senility and well-deserved obscurity by the rabid left wingers who saw him as the vehicle by which they could gain the White House. This duped senile is a member of the filthy swamp who will completely lose his mind to Alzheimer within months.(1 image)

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#1. To: IbJensen (#0)

Liz is Swamp, a gets her share of the bribe $$$. Wouldn't doubt she has Soros ties as her daddy did. Got to have wars - they send our kids to their death so they can enrich themselves. Didn't Dick endorse Biden?

WWG1WWA  posted on  2020-11-24   16:20:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: WWG1WWA (#1)

HEY LIZZIE, you political whore. Your husband killed 3,000 Americans on 9/11. More after in wars of greed and ambition. Along with GW Bush and others, they should stand trial and be beheaded on the public square.

THIS IS A TAG LINE...Exercising rights is only radical to two people, Tyrants and Slaves. Which are YOU? Our ignorance has driven us into slavery and we do not recognize it.

jeremiad  posted on  2020-11-26   21:54:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: jeremiad, All (#2) (Edited)

HEY LIZZIE, you political whore. Your husband killed 3,000 Americans on 9/11. More after in wars of greed and ambition. Along with GW Bush and others, they should stand trial and be beheaded on the public square.

“Lizzie” Cheney’s husband is Philip Jonathan Perry, an American attorney.

Can you please explain for everyone the association “Lizzie’s” husband, Philip Jonathan Perry, had in any way with the tragedy of 9/11 – and give the reason why you feel that he should “be beheaded on the public square.”

It will be interesting to learn exactly how you figure Philip Jonathan Perry “killed 3,000 Americans on 9/11 and more after …”

Gatlin  posted on  2020-11-27   1:55:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: jeremiad, All (#2)

HEY LIZZIE, you political whore.

“Lizzies” positions on issues are presented below.

Please explain those positions which you disagree with
– if any –
and exactly what classifies “Lizzie” as a “political whore.”

  • No – Budget: In order to balance the budget, do you support an income tax increase on any tax bracket?
  • No – Budget: Do you support expanding federal funding to support entitlement programs such as Social Security and Medicare?
  • Unknown Position – Campaign Finance: Do you support the regulation of indirect campaign contributions from corporations and unions?
  • Unknown Position – Crime: Do you support the protection of government officials, including law enforcement officers, from personal liability in civil lawsuits concerning alleged misconduct?
  • Yes – Defense: Do you support increasing defense spending?
  • No – Economy: Do you support federal spending as a means of promoting economic growth?
  • Yes - Economy: Do you support lowering corporate taxes as a means of promoting economic growth?
  • Yes – Economy: Do you support providing financial relief to businesses AND/OR corporations negatively impacted by the state of national emergency for COVID-19?
  • No – Education: Do you support requiring states to adopt federal education standards?
  • No – Energy and Environment: Do you support government funding for the development of renewable energy (e.g. solar, wind, geo-thermal)?
  • No – Energy and Environment: Do you support the federal regulation of greenhouse gas emissions?
  • No – Guns: Do you generally support gun-control legislation?
  • Yes – Health Care: Do you support repealing the 2010 Affordable Care Act ("Obamacare")?
  • Yes – Health Care: Do you support requiring businesses to provide paid medical leave during public health crises, such as COVID-19?
  • Yes – Immigration: Do you support the construction of a wall along the Mexican border?
  • Yes – Immigration: Do you support requiring immigrants who are unlawfully present to return to their country of origin before they are eligible for citizenship?
  • Unknown Position – National Security: Should the United States use military force to prevent governments hostile to the U.S. from possessing a weapon of mass destruction (for example: nuclear, biological, chemical)?
  • No – National Security: Do you support reducing military intervention in Middle East conflicts?
  • Yes – Trade: Do you generally support removing barriers to international trade (for example: tariffs, quotas, etc.)?

Gatlin  posted on  2020-11-27   4:39:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: IbJensen, All (#0)

Poster Comment:
How in the hell can any 'conservative' American respect the 'sanctity' of our electoral process when it is so obviously corrupt as to render it null and void?

Any “’conservative’ American” who makes such a bold seemingly undeniable statement that “our electoral process is so obviously corrupt as to render it null and void” should be able to back up his emphatic declarative statement with facts.

Can you do that in light of the fact that …

President Donald Trump and other Republicans have filed over 30 lawsuits across six swing states in an attempt to contest the election results.

Most of them have been shot down or withdrawn, and no court has found even a single instance of fraud. Of at least 38 cases to have been filed, including some not directly involving Trump but which could nonetheless affect his standing, at least 26 have been denied, dismissed, settled or withdrawn.

Repeat: NO COURT HAS FOUND EVEN A SINGLE INSTANCE OF FRAUD.

… if so, then it will be no problem for you to share with us your factual documentation to show that our “electoral process is so obviously corrupt.”

Can you do that?

Gatlin  posted on  2020-11-27   5:09:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Gatlin (#5)

Facts? Facts? Don't need no facts, Gatlin. I will now operate the way the crazy rights operate.

Liberals are like Slinkys. They're good for nothing, but somehow they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.

IbJensen  posted on  2020-11-27   8:20:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: IbJensen, All (#6)

Facts? Facts? Don't need no facts, Gatlin.

It is blatantly obvious that you have absolutely no need for facts.

So, what is it that you do in the absence of facts?

Just make up shit and post whatever comes to your mind – hoping that some other idiot will give credence to what you are posting.

Gatlin  posted on  2020-11-27   8:30:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Gatlin (#7)

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-11-27   8:32:46 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: A K A Stone (#8)

You are showing me a picture of 2 men taping something to a window.

I am showing you a picture of Raquel Welch here:

I like my picture better than your picture.

Gatlin  posted on  2020-11-27   9:10:35 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: A K A Stone All (#8) (Edited)

Kidding aside …

I have seen a different version of this picture before.

And I know that the window covering at the ballot center was portrayed by some as ever so clandestine – “NEFARIOUS.”

Since you posted the picture, you must be completely aware of all aspects surrounding this situation.

Consequently, you should be fully able to tell me what specifically what “really happened” here.

Please do so.

If you can’t explain what happened, then here are 23 other mysterious photos that may never be explained to add to you collection.

Gatlin  posted on  2020-11-27   9:14:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone, All (#8) (Edited)

Let me share with you what happened with your “nefarious” picture at the TCF Center in Detroit to cover windows with cardboard. I will paraphrase since I have read the story a few times. If you don’t believe what I am sharing with you then you go look it up – like intelligence should have already prompted you to do.

The people outside the window were close enough to the desk where the ballots were being counted that they could read the names and addresses on the ballots and see who the individuals voted for. Some individuals were actually taking pictures of that information on the ballots. The law requires this information be kept secret. A supervisor saw what was going on with the people outside the window and realized they could see the information on the ballots and were taking pictures. The supervisor then ordered the windows covered in order to comply with the law and protect the right of the voters.

Lawrence Garcia, an attorney for the City of Detroit, said that the windows were partially blocked because of concern voter information could be wrongfully revealed to the public. Those concerns were compounded by the fact that protesters standing outside the ballot-counting area were taking photographs and recording video.

So, Stone – you can rest easy since no poll workers were hiding improper activity from the public. They were protecting the privacy of the voters.

Do you have a problem with the law being followed and the right of the voters to secrecy being protected?

You definitely should not.

Let me know if you have any other problems understanding anything ….

Gatlin  posted on  2020-11-27   10:25:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: A K A Stone, All (#11)

Trump may be coming to terms
with loss he won't acknowledge

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump still won't bring himself to concede the election he lost to projected President-elect Joe Biden. But he's now acknowledging he will leave the White House if Biden's win is affirmed by the Electoral College, which is firmly on track to do just that in a few weeks.

Read the remainder of the “lying MSM article” here.

Gatlin  posted on  2020-11-27   12:33:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: A K A Stone, Deckard, All (#15) (Edited)

Federal appeals court issues stinging rejection
of Trump campaign election fraud lawsuit

“Voters, not lawyers, choose the President,” the court writes.

[I knew it - I knew it – I knew it –
I knew that no court is going to overturn an election and decide who the president is].

The U.S. Third Circuit Court has rejected the Trump campaign’s appeal of a federal lawsuit filed in Pennsylvania that challenged the outcome of the 2020 elections, denying the request with a blistering opinion authored by a Trump-appointed judge declaring: "Voters, not lawyers, choose the President."

"Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy," said the unanimous opinion from a three-judge panel, which was signed by Judge Stephanos Bibas. "Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here."

Read the rest of the article here.

Gatlin  posted on  2020-11-27   15:41:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: A K A Stone (#16) (Edited)

Some day you may learn to listen to me and believe what I am telling you.

In the meantime, do you have any other pictures you want to post to me now?

Or is this the time you post again that you want me to die?

Gatlin  posted on  2020-11-27   15:43:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: All (#17)

Trump 2024? It could happen

Opinion by Michael D'Antonio
November 27, 2020

Will he, or won't he?

"He" is Donald Trump. The question refers to his plans for the 2024 election. According to the Washington Post, the lame duck president is considering a campaign to retake the Oval Office in 2024. Given how many Republicans undoubtedly would like the idea, even the most surprising element in the Post's report -- that Trump could announce his bid by the end of this year --- cannot be dismissed out of hand.

Smart money would bet that Trump will at least gesture toward 2024 sometime soon. The reasons for this, beyond the poll numbers, must include the frame of mind reflected in his refusal to concede his 2020 defeat and his devotion to the wild notion that he was somehow cheated out of a second term.

Beyond mere pig-headedness, Trump's go-down-with-the-ship pose aligns with his political brand, which emphasizes the notion that he is unconventional, combative and relentless. It also allows him to shift from one powerful mythic native, that of the "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington" outsider who would "drain the swamp" of politics, to a new one that would make him a noble victim who, like the movie character Rocky, bravely returns to the ring.

The movie comparisons are apt because the President is, among other things, a gifted dramatist who spoke of "central casting" cabinet picks and reportedly considered wearing a "Superman" shirt when he left Walter Reed after getting treated for Covid-19.

If he chooses to pose as a defeated fighter who would fight again, Trump could also tap potentially enormous supplies of two things he craves: attention and money. The attention would be offered by the media as he careens around the country conducting campaign-style rallies that would draw crowds eager to hear his insult-laden oldies -- "Crooked Hillary" and "Socialist Democrats" -- and new material aimed both at President- elect Joe Biden and anyone who might challenge Trump in a prospective Republic primary.

Money could flow to Trump if he sells tickets to his rallies and reaps profits from sales of official merchandise. More could come in the form of donations to political action committees that he would control. The President has already sent out numerous email and text-message fundraising pitches for a committee called Save America. While some of the money has been used to fund Trump's legal battle over the 2020 vote, most of it is now reportedly going toward future political activity.

But a caveat: While Trump would find many financial and ego-boosting reasons to run, he could risk a civil war within the GOP triggered by those Republicans who have paid their dues and waited patiently for their turn at a presidential run.

One thing that is certain: Trump redux would offer the country a spectacle not seen before and for which we have no model.

Now consigned to the small club of presidents who failed to win reelection, Trump needs a new predecessor to emulate. In the past, Trump has indicated that his Oval Office role model was Andrew Jackson, the populist who served two successive terms and whose cruel treatment of native tribes found echoes in Trump's treatment of undocumented immigrants.

But perhaps the only available facsimile for a possible future presidency is Grover Cleveland, who served two non-consecutive terms, as the 22nd and 24th president -- even though this is hardly a good fit. Unlike Trump, Cleveland served a long political apprenticeship as a sheriff, mayor, and governor. Also, Cleveland won the popular vote in each of the three elections he entered. (The middle one he lost in the electoral college.) Trump lost the popular vote to Hillary Clinton by nearly three million and to Biden by double that number. Get our free weekly newsletter

Would Trump risk the ignominy of a third presidential campaign in which the majority might reject him? This answer would be moot if he used a 2024 effort to distract from future events (like his legal troubles) or if health issues render his effort untenable. Either way, the Trump '24 notion could well confer short-term rewards for his wallet and his ego, which, his record suggests, he cannot resist.

Gatlin  posted on  2020-11-27   16:06:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Gatlin (#18)

Gabe Sterling. I think that is his name.

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-11-27   17:38:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: A K A Stone (#19)

Gabe Sterling. I think that is his name.

Gabriel Sterling, the Voting Systems Manager for the Georgia Secretary of State's office?

Gatlin  posted on  2020-11-27   17:44:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Gatlin (#7)

hoping that some other idiot will give credence to what you are posting.

In your case I'll call you MR. IDIOT!

There's all the proof in the world, but you, being a dyed in the wool Sheeple, wouldn't know a fact if it bit you in your ass!

Liberals are like Slinkys. They're good for nothing, but somehow they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.

IbJensen  posted on  2020-11-27   18:45:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: IbJensen, ALL (#21) (Edited)

There's all the proof in the world

Then show just one tiney piece of “all this proof in the world” you continue to say is there. Or shut the fuck up about there being some. That is a reasonable request. Put Up – Or Shut Up.

President Donald Trump and other Republicans have filed over 30 lawsuits across six swing states in an attempt to contest the election results.

Most of them have been shot down or withdrawn, and no court has found even a single instance of fraud. Of at least 38 cases to have been filed, including some not directly involving Trump but which could nonetheless affect his standing, at least 26 have been denied, dismissed, settled or withdrawn.

Repeat: No court has found even a single instance of fraud.
Repeat: No court has found even a single instance of fraud.
Repeat: No court has found even a single instance of fraud.

The courts can’t find the poof – yet you keep saying:

There's all the proof in the world.
There's all the proof in the world.
There's all the proof in the world.

Still you cannot show one damned piece of “all that proof.” All you can do is call me “MR. IDIOT” when I ask that you show me the proof. Then make an asinine comment, “being a dyed in the wool Sheeple, wouldn't know a fact if it bit you in your ass!”

Gatlin  posted on  2020-11-27   20:00:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: IbJensen, ALL (#21) (Edited)

Well, Big Mouth – just HIT ME IT THE ASS with your PROOF and let’s see.

Gatlin  posted on  2020-11-27   20:10:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: IbJensen (#21)

There's all the proof in the world …

Of all the GOP and Trump campaign’s allegations of election irregularities in six states. So far, not one has been proved.

But you have “all the proof in the world.”

Then for heaven’s sake – get in touch with someone in Trump’s campaign and share this proof you have with them so that we can see Trump remain in office for another 4 years.

Gatlin  posted on  2020-11-27   20:29:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Gatlin (#24)

There is lots of proof. It has been posted. If you continue to lie and say there is no proof I will ban you. If you say it is your opinion there isn't enough proof then that could be considered truthful. I would not ban you in that case. You know there are some problems and fraud. So be honest. If you don't like that here is a site with fools of your Ilk www.dailykos.com. wou would fit in nicely there if you are unable to acknowledge the truth.

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-11-27   21:13:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Gatlin, IbJensen (#24)

There's all the proof in the world …

Some light reading for this weekend: 75 pages of fraud and malfeasance.

This civil action brings to light a massive election fraud, multiple violations of the Michigan Election Code, see, e.g., MCL §§ 168.730-738, in addition to the Election and Electors Clauses and Equal Protection Clause of the U.S. Constitution violations that occurred during the 2020 General Election throughout the State of Michigan, as set forth in the affidavits of dozens of eye witnesses and the statistical anomalies and mathematical impossibilities detailed in the affidavits of expert witnesses.

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2020-11-28   2:08:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: A K A Stone (#25)

There is lots of proof. It has been posted. If you continue to lie and say there is no proof I will ban you.

Don't ban the clown. Let him continue to make an ass of himself.

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2020-11-28   2:11:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: A K A Stone. All (#25)

There is lots of proof. It has been posted.

Do you mean lots of proof like you posted here:

Stone, that was no proof. I showed you why and I posted a link explaining exactly what happened and why the law requited it to protect the right of the voters.

I will now post you other links to show you that what you perceived as proof was actually no proof at all:

I hawk these threads even more that Deckard does and I have seen everything you say is lot of proof posted. All I have seen is what people are posting, like you did with the picure, that “they call proof.” They see what they want to believe. And when they see anything they can “perceive as proof” their minds are preprogrammed to say, “Ah Ha – There’s the proof.” Stone, that is exactly what you did when you posted the picture of the windows being covered, isn’t it? Of course, it is. You saw the picture and you thought Gatlin wants proof – so this picture will show him proof.

Trump's election fight includes over 40 lawsuits. It's not going well. "Calling an election unfair does not make it so," one ruling said. Most of them have been shot down or withdrawn, and no court has found even a single instance of fraud. Of at least 41 cases to have been filed, including some not directly involving Trump but which could nonetheless affect his standing, at least 26 have been denied, dismissed, settled or withdrawn.

Stone, please read this very carefully: “No court has found even a single instance of fraud.” So, if is is as you say, that – there is lots of proof. It has been posted – then you need to get that posted evidence to Trump’ legal team pronto because they are flat out getting their legal asses kicked to hell and back even in courts with Trump appointed judges.

If you continue to lie and say there is no proof I will ban you.

I don’t lie – I never have and I never will lie.

If that is all you can do since you can provide no factual proof, then do it now and get over. I gave 24 years to the service of our great nation for our right to freely speak our minds. I was fully prepared to give my life for that and the other constitutional right we have – some of my best friends did. If censorship is your only course of action because you cannot furnish proof and all you can say is that is has been posed – then I say again, do the ban now.

If you say it is your opinion there isn't enough proof then that could be considered truthful. I would not ban you in that case.

Is this where I am supposed to say, “yessir, yessir mister boss man – ah do.”

Well, I wlll not and I say that I will stand firmly with the 20 or more court decisions and say that “no proof of fraud” has been shown. That is not an “opinion.” That is a statement of fact.

And I will never kowtow {borrowed from kau tau in Cantonese Chinese] to you or anyone else who denies the truth and denies access to it.
You know there are some problems and fraud.

I know nothing of the kind. I have read that there are some problems. And I have read about alleged fraud. I do believe the problems because they have been proven. But not one of the fraud charges has been proven – anywhere.

If you don't like that here is a site with fools of your Ilk www.dailykos.com. wou would fit in nicely there …

No, thank you – I find plenty of ilk here and I see no reason to leave just to try to find groupies to surround myself with that agree with me and I agree with them – like you are doing.

I believe one can be a staunch conservative and disagree with other conservatives while challenging those other conservatives to provide proof of the allegations.

What – if anything – is wrong with that?

You said to me once before in another of your threats, if you don’t agree with me, I will ban you.

Yes you did, and you know damned well I will take time to find hat quote if you challenge it.

Stone, that is wrong – It is wrong for all you want on the forum are those who agree with you.

… if you are unable to acknowledge the truth.

I am fully capable of acknowledging the truth.

But I will never acknowledge some perception you call the truth – like you did with that nefarious picture you posed.

I will continue my search for the truth and challenge those who try to pass off their perceptions as the gospel truth.

I can handle that.

If you can’t handle my search for truth – then proceed with the threatened banning …

Gatlin  posted on  2020-11-28   4:47:58 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Deckard. All (#27) (Edited)

Don't ban the clown.

I never asked you to be a defense attorney and plead for me – Asshole.

So – STFU …

Gatlin  posted on  2020-11-28   4:49:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Deckard, IbJensen, A K A Stone (#26)

There's all the proof in the world …

Some light reading for this weekend: 75 pages of fraud and malfeasance.

A light task for this weekend.

Come back on Monday with any court decision to showwhere a single case of fraud or malfeasance has been proven.

Saying something is merely saying it – proving it is all that counts. You might want to remember that.

We have a hell of a lot of “sayers” around here – but not a single “prover.”

But wait – the mantra here is that conservatives need not prove it, all conservatives here have to do is agree with it and parrot it. And if you don’t do that, you are invited to go to another forum. Did it get that right, Stone?

Gatlin  posted on  2020-11-28   5:12:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone (#28) (Edited)

Stone, my ping line was wrong and I do not want you to miss this:

https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=62928&Disp=28#C28 dos not show up.

Gatlin  posted on  2020-11-28   5:39:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Deckard (#26)

Some light reading for this weekend: 75 pages of fraud and malfeasance.

Stop – Really STOP –

Stop to see what you are doing to yourself.

There is a name for what you are doing – It is called Confirmation Bias.

That court document is NOT “75 pages of fraud and malfeasance.”

That court document is 75 pages of yet unproven charges.

It is merely 75 pages of allegations of fraud and malfeasance.

There is a huge difference Deckard. Surely you can see that.

You really need to control your tendency to interpret new evidence as confirmation of your existing beliefs or theories.

Think about it …

Gatlin  posted on  2020-11-28   6:41:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: A K A Stone, All (#25) (Edited)

It just keeps coming, Stone – It just keeps on coming. <> The Third Circuit stated yesterday in their opinion:

… the federal appeals court makes plain the finding that the president’s repeated claims of fraud are not supported by evidence.

So, you are going to kick my ass off of your forum because I am asking to be shown evidence of fraud when Trump’s expert legal team cannot even show any court evidence of fraud.

Yet you state:

There is lots of proof [of fraud]. It has been posted.

You are not a fair, reasonable and rational person, Stone. Why not?

It just keeps coming, Stone – It just keeps on coming.

At what point will you accept reality - Or is it that you never will.

I say that it will be the later - Unfortunaely.

Gatlin  posted on  2020-11-28   7:39:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: A K A Stone (#25) (Edited)

If you don't like that here is a site with fools of your Ilk www.dailykos.com.

I went to Kos since I have never been there. I saw nothing I liked.

But you did peak my interest and the next thing I saw was

Conservative Political Forum.

Their format is – Oh Ny God – superb. Just, WOW …

Go take a look.

429213 Posts in 36682 Topics by 2573 Members.
Most Online Today: 262. Most Online Ever: 4719,

No, I don’t want to go there either – I’d rather stay with the ilk here.

Yu will never have that many members with that much participation, but you definitely could have an equally terrific formatted site and a goodly limited number of active participations – If only you wanted to.

Edit:
You will never guess who I saw posting over there.
It was: WWG1WGA
.

Gatlin  posted on  2020-11-28   8:15:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: A K A Stone (#25) (Edited)

… I will ban you.

Okay, Stone – Do I continue to post here, or am I banned?

I am ready for your call –

AIM STRAIGHT, Please ...

.

Gatlin  posted on  2020-11-28   8:33:59 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Gatlin (#34)

No, I don’t want to go there either

You'd last about 60 seconds on that site, simping for pedo-joe and the nwo

watchman  posted on  2020-11-28   9:32:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Gatlin (#28)

They covered the windows because they were afraid. Bullshit there is no law that allow them to block the view.

You are ok with losers making excuses. Because your wife is dead and can't correct you anymore you have become more of a fool tool than before.

For clarification. You can post somewhere else if you lie and say there is no fraud. Comprende pedo Gatlin. All of you Biden voters are pedophile supporters. Have you considered suicide?

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-11-28   10:42:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Gatlin (#30)

But wait – the mantra here is that conservatives need not prove it, all conservatives here have to do is agree with it and parrot it. And if you don’t do that, you are invited to go to another forum. Did it get that right, Stone?

No you never get it right you are to dumb. You democrats always lie.

I said quit lying and saying there is no evidence. If you can't understand that then go to kos where you would fit in with all the faggots and anti Americans.

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-11-28   10:45:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: watchman, ALL (#36)

No, I don’t want to go there either

You'd last about 60 seconds on that site …

I will last in whatever I want to be doing and whenever I want to do it.

I am a “survivalist” in the truest sense of the word.

I survived 10 years in the most dangerous aircraft in that day and time, fluing at twice the speed of sound while losing 1 in 4 of the B-58 Hustlers.

I survived bombing missions over Nam.

I survived a tour of duty in the AC-130 gunship.

I entered Electronic Warfare School where the first week was college refresher algebra when I had only nineth grade general math. I check out Beginning Algebra from the base library and taught myself algebra at night – to finish at the top of my class 9 months later with the privilege of selecting the aircraft of my choice. I selected theB-58 Hustler because it literally was the hottest thing going at the time.

I am the modern-day Methuselah [book of Genesis] with the genes of generational centenarians filling my gloriously bronze body.

So don’t you tell me “little daddy’s boy” – whose father forbad him to join the military – where I will not last.

You don’t know what I can and can’t do – You have absolutely no way of knowing.

All you can do is “see what you want to see” and “what you want to see, you will believe.”

But if you stop doing that and see yourself as a successful person, you will become one like me because you will find a way to do what it takes to be successful like I have. If you however remain on your present course and never do anything or never achieve anything in life except herding a few cows and praying every day for things that might have been, the you have all you are ever going to have. Thus, if you won’t do anything to ensure you accomplish something – then you never will. And what do you have left, the task of pulling four teats every day.

Pathetic …

All this may sound like bragging – and it could be considered that – but it was meant to show you that I can “last” [do] anything I want to do.

So, “little daddy’s boy” – you can say what you think, but what you think means diddly squat about what I can do.

For I did not wind up shoveling cow shit in a barn or hanging sheetrock like some of you poor souls have to do.

I ALONE CONTROL MY DESTINY …

REMEMBER IT …

Gatlin  posted on  2020-11-28   13:16:03 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Gatlin (#39)

For I did not wind up shoveling cow shit in a barn or hanging sheetrock like some of you poor souls have to do.

What an empty life you lived. All those years that the locusts have eaten.

And you wound up being a bitter old drama queen simping for a pedophile and a whore.

A short time after you are dead no one, absolutely no one, will ever remember you existed.

Even the nonsense you have written on this forum will be deleted by the nwo. And if not by the nwo, then God will wipe it clean.

Your grandiose life will be rewarded with an eternity in the Lake of Fire, that was created for Satan and his followers.

That is why I rejoice to be a doorkeeper (and a drywall hanger, and a dairyman) in God's house (the Church), than to dwell with fools and pedos.

I pity you, Gatlin. Sincerely, I do.

watchman  posted on  2020-11-28   13:45:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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