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Title: Bachmann: America ‘cursed’ by God ‘if we reject Israel’
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URL Source: http://minnesotaindependent.com/550 ... sed-by-god-if-we-reject-israel
Published: Feb 8, 2010
Author: Andy Birkey
Post Date: 2010-02-08 15:16:40 by Skip Intro
Keywords: American Taliban
Views: 35131
Comments: 92

Bachmann: America ‘cursed’ by God ‘if we reject Israel’

At a Republican Jewish Coalition event in Los Angeles last week, Rep. Michele Bachmann offered a candid view of her positions on Israel: Support for Israel is handed down by God and if the United States pulls back its support, America will cease to exist.

The Republican Jewish Coalition is the same organization that recently hired former Sen. Norm Coleman. Bachmann’s appearance on Feb.1 is part of a whirlwind of national events for Bachmann in February. Next up: she’s keynoting the Take Back Washington North Dakota event in Bismarck this Friday night.

Here’s a transcript of some of her remarks at the RJC event:

I am convinced in my heart and in my mind that if the United States fails to stand with Israel, that is the end of the United States . . . [W]e have to show that we are inextricably entwined, that as a nation we have been blessed because of our relationship with Israel, and if we reject Israel, then there is a curse that comes into play. And my husband and I are both Christians, and we believe very strongly the verse from Genesis [Genesis 12:3], we believe very strongly that nations also receive blessings as they bless Israel. It is a strong and beautiful principle.

Right now in my own private Bible time, I am working through Isaiah . . . and there is continually a coming back to what God gave to Israel initially, which was the Torah and the Ten Commandments, and I have a wonderful quote from John Adams that if you will indulge me [while I find it] . . . [from his February 16, 1809 letter to François Adriaan van der Kemp]:

I will insist that the Hebrews have done more to civilize men than any other nation. If I were an atheist, and believed in blind eternal fate, I should still believe that fate had ordained the Jews to be the most essential instrument for civilizing the nations. If I were an atheist of the other sect, who believe or pretend to believe that all is ordered by chance, I should believe that chance had ordered the Jews to preserve and propagate to all mankind the doctrine of a supreme, intelligent, wise, almighty sovereign of the universe, which I believe to be the great essential principle of all morality, and consequently of all civilization.

. . . So that is a very long way to answer your question, but I believe that an explicit statement from us about our support for Israel as tied to American security, we would do well to do that.

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#34. To: Mad Dog (#28)

Is that a photo of what Palin will look like by age 60?

Will you still love her then?

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-02-10   13:32:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Mad Dog (#30)

nebbish is one of you dickus lickus, he was being sarcastic.

God you're stupid. You best keep your head up yukon's ass. Stick with what you know.

“They’re not knowin what are we gonna do if we don’t have Tea Party support” - Sarah Palin at TeaBagger Con 2010

Bickus Dickus  posted on  2010-02-10   13:39:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Mad Dog (#29)

Bullshit.

You're opposed to my comments in post #21?

Goldi-Lox: You're one dumb-fucking bitch.

Nebuchadnezzar  posted on  2010-02-10   16:52:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: sneakypete (#11)

Are you kidding? That is one of the basic beliefs of the fundies.

Hell,it's in the Bibe-Bull!

I once thought the world of you pete, but the more you deliberately smear the Bible and those who do believe in the word of G-d, the lower you sink yourself! jmho!

Murron  posted on  2010-02-10   16:59:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Murron (#37)

jmho!

That's ok. I don't take that personally. You have a right to your beliefs.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-02-10   19:46:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: sneakypete (#38)

That's ok. I don't take that personally. You have a right to your beliefs.

I'm glad you said that pete, because I am sorry for being so nasty to you, you have every right to feel the way you do too!

I've been reading posts, here and elsewhere, and I don't want to be a part of you leaving...please stay...

Murron  posted on  2010-02-10   23:56:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Murron (#39)

I don't want to be a part of you leaving

You're not. I've been swapping posts with you for years. Sometimes we agree and sometimes we don't. No big deal.

I'm just tired of wasting my time dealing with partisan fools who put party ahead of country. I have better things to do with what is left of my time than getting mad after trying to reason with the unreasonable. I end up getting wasting my whole day on people that do nothing but babble nonsense and who can't be taught instead of doing something productive.

This has been coming for a while now. It's why I was trying to give away all my ping lists on LP several months ago. There were already enough dead ping lists there as it was from people leaving or being banned that were the sole owners,and this kept other people from starting a ping list with the same name. I don't know why Goldi doesn't do something about that problem,but she doesn't.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-02-11   9:57:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: sneakypete (#40)

"I don't know why Goldi doesn't do something about that problem,but she doesn't."

If you'll pardon me for saying so, but she's become a part of the problem. Even though I may not agree with what another poster is saying, I still think they should have the opportunity to have their side posted.

If she doesn't want anything negative posted about Palin, it's only fair she post it instead of blowing up and nuking members....she really does contradict her own rules, and if she ever did that to me for asking questions, or questoning Palin on any issue, I sure as hell wouldn't hesitate for a moment telling here what she could do with her echo chamber!

I never was one to just 'go along to get along', and never will be!jmho!

Murron  posted on  2010-02-11   10:34:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Murron (#39)

I am sorry for being so nasty to you

Your retard apologies ring false. You're nasty every time you feel like it, you stupid bitch.

So why do you bother soiling this site with your vacuous and inane commentary? ... yukon haha lots of laughing out loud

Biff Tannen  posted on  2010-02-11   10:43:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: sneakypete (#40)

I have better things to do with what is left of my time...

You okay sneak?

I've met quite a few Red's players, and Bengals players over the past thirty years or so, but thats the closets I come to being around pro athletes.

Badeye [being Freudian] posted on 2007-03-29 16:32:21 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-02-11   10:48:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Murron (#41)

If she doesn't want anything negative posted about Palin, it's only fair she post it instead of blowing up and nuking members....she really does contradict her own rules, and if she ever did that to me for asking questions, or questoning Palin on any issue, I sure as hell wouldn't hesitate for a moment telling here what she could do with her echo chamber!

If she has ever tried to do that to me I don't remember it,and I have been very critical of Palin over there.

In fact,I honestly can't remember the last time she even responded to one of my posts over there.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-02-11   10:55:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: war (#43)

I have better things to do with what is left of my time...

You okay sneak?

Yeah,I'm just getting older and have a lot of stuff left I need or want to do.

I have the same physical problems as most people my age,like cataracts and arthritis,but nothing special.

I'd just rather spend my remaining time finishing the remodeling of my house,working on my project cars,or just enjoying myself in general.

Every day spent smiling and enjoying yourself is worth more than 2 days spent mad and unproductive.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-02-11   11:00:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: sneakypete (#44)

In fact,I honestly can't remember the last time she even responded to one of my posts over there.

Oh she's around, whether she posts, or not, she admitted that I think yesterday. She's not so busy she does't know what's going on, she saw all the filthy trash being posted, members pinging her, and she CHOSE to ignore them, but only after she got her jollies....she can deny that all she wants in some long winded 'I'm right, you're wrong' post, but it just goes to show a person she had ZIP respect for anyone...and why I have none for her anymore..!

Murron  posted on  2010-02-11   11:03:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: sneakypete (#45)

Gotcha...Cent Anni, mon frer...

I've met quite a few Red's players, and Bengals players over the past thirty years or so, but thats the closets I come to being around pro athletes.

Badeye [being Freudian] posted on 2007-03-29 16:32:21 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-02-11   11:03:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Murron (#41)

If you'll pardon me for saying so, but she's become a part of the problem.

Add 'for years now' and we agree completely. How bout that? (laughing)

my anti groupie can't get through life without me.

Badeye  posted on  2010-02-11   11:04:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: sneakypete (#45)

Every day spent smiling and enjoying yourself is worth more than 2 days spent mad and unproductive.

I hear ya there pete, got lots to keep me smiling today, and it's not on some anonymous website, it's just not a place I care to spend too much time anymore either, upsetting myself and getting angry at people I don't even know, much less care what some of them think! &;-)

Murron  posted on  2010-02-11   11:08:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Badeye (#48)

Add 'for years now' and we agree completely. How bout that? (laughing)

Have we wasted a lot of our time on people who have NO impact on our lives, or what? I coulda been had a V-8...&;-)

Murron  posted on  2010-02-11   11:10:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Murron (#50)

Hmmm. I view it as venting online, so as to avoid venting where it really matters, in the real world.

my anti groupie can't get through life without me.

Badeye  posted on  2010-02-11   11:12:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: sneakypete (#45)

Post some pictures of your cars as you work on them, if you can Pete. Keep shooting snakes!!

So why do you bother soiling this site with your vacuous and inane commentary? ... yukon haha lots of laughing out loud

Biff Tannen  posted on  2010-02-11   11:12:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Badeye (#51)

Hmmm. I view it as venting online, so as to avoid venting where it really matters, in the real world.

As stupid as some of us come off online 'venting', if I had to do it in the real world, believe it or not, I am a little more tactful, and choose my words more carefully...or get myself a good lawyer to do my venting for me! LOL!

Murron  posted on  2010-02-11   11:16:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Murron (#46)

The fact that it now takes about two hours to get a page of posts there is a pretty good indication of what has happened to that site.

Btw, don't go out of your way or anything, but if you run unto packass tell him I said that he should go fuck himself.

I've met quite a few Red's players, and Bengals players over the past thirty years or so, but thats the closets I come to being around pro athletes.

Badeye [being Freudian] posted on 2007-03-29 16:32:21 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-02-11   11:43:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: war (#54)

Btw, don't go out of your way or anything, but if you run unto packass tell him I said that he should go fuck himself.

The great thing about ratty is that he considers himself to "objective and rational", but a review of his posts shows a guy who will believe any conspiracy theory so long as it's against Obama.

He was Orly's number one fan - well, maybe number 2 after Goldi - and continues to post completely bogus info from her site whenever he can. If I really wanted to waste a day, I'd collect some of his more idiotic posts from the last year. He ought to get a job as a researcher for World Nut Daily.

"You just can't debate with someone who is both stupid AND dishonest." - sneakypete on LP 02/10/2010

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-02-11   11:53:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: war (#54)

The fact that it now takes about two hours to get a page of posts there is a pretty good indication of what has happened to that site.

It does pick up some once yukon and MD roll out of bed, cash their welfare checks, and begin their daily spamming of the site.

"You just can't debate with someone who is both stupid AND dishonest." - sneakypete on LP 02/10/2010

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-02-11   11:58:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Skip Intro (#56)

They are all "known quantities"...(laughing)

I've met quite a few Red's players, and Bengals players over the past thirty years or so, but thats the closets I come to being around pro athletes.

Badeye [being Freudian] posted on 2007-03-29 16:32:21 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-02-11   12:14:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Skip Intro (#55)

He's a sniveling little shit and it wouldn't surprise me if he goes the way of RussKon45...

I've met quite a few Red's players, and Bengals players over the past thirty years or so, but thats the closets I come to being around pro athletes.

Badeye [being Freudian] posted on 2007-03-29 16:32:21 ET Reply Trace

war  posted on  2010-02-11   12:14:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Murron, sneakypete (#37)

I once thought the world of you pete, but the more you deliberately smear the Bible and those who do believe in the word of G-d, the lower you sink yourself! jmho!

Yet your best friends are the filty, gutter mouthed Alaskans who only come here to stifle discussion and debate. You are such a hoot.! At least Sneakey will discuss the issues.

mininggold  posted on  2010-02-11   12:43:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: mininggold (#59)

"Yet your best friends are the filty, gutter mouthed Alaskans who only come here to stifle discussion and debate. You are such a hoot.! At least Sneakey will discuss the issues."

Bitchin...ain't it??? LOL!

Murron  posted on  2010-02-11   14:04:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: war (#54)

"but if you run unto packass tell him I said that he should go fuck himself."

I think there was one day I come a hair of doing just that, I thought he was pinging me along with another member he was attempting to get banned, he pinged Goldi too...I told him I wanted no part of it, that what he was doing was fishy...I think he knew what I meant!

Murron  posted on  2010-02-11   14:13:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Murron (#60) (Edited)

Bitchin...ain't it??? LOL!

I guess you are. Show us more of your "good" Bible ethics and morals that you preach selectively towards others.

mininggold  posted on  2010-02-11   14:25:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Skip Intro (#56)

It does pick up some once yukon and MD roll out of bed, cash their welfare checks, and begin their daily spamming of the site.

LOL!

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-02-11   14:31:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: sneakypete (#45)

Every day spent smiling and enjoying yourself is worth more than 2 days spent mad and unproductive.

I wonder what mad dog and yucky think of your philosophy. I agree with you.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2010-02-11   15:16:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: mininggold (#31)

I bet you believed Clinton

are none of the Iditarod drivers hiring any of you derelicts to feed their dogs this year?

Pay up, hagatha! You are a fookin lunatic!

They haven't asked you, hagatha?

Sneakypete, have you ever been married? Said things you later regretted?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-02-11   16:53:52 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Fred Mertz (#64)

I wonder what mad dog and yucky think of your philosophy.

I doubt they would agree. Anger seems to be the only thing they live for.

Mad Dog really is a very bright guy,and he does sometimes post good articles about archeology or other history events. Stay away from criticizing the love of his life and you are ok with him. Say ANYTHING the least bit critical of Palin,and he loses it.

All Yukon does is bleet and pretend he is making sense. He actually thinks he is smart. No shit.

"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)

sneakypete  posted on  2010-02-11   19:10:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Ibluafartsky (#65)

Pay up, hagatha! You are a fookin lunatic!

I don't live in Alaska. But I'm glad they gave you a job that matches your talents..... cleaning up dog poop. LOLAY Perotista.

mininggold  posted on  2010-02-11   22:41:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: mininggold (#62)

I guess you are. Show us more of your "good" Bible ethics and morals that you preach selectively towards others.

I don't preach you lil gnat, I'm no born again saved soul, to claim such a think would make me a hypocrate, it's blasphamy that bothers me because I do at least believe in what is written and the word of G-d, I just don't live it like I should, and if you had a decent bone in your body, if you ever did see where I come unglued on a post, it's because of creeps like you who poke and prod a person into saying things they might not ordinarally say!

People like you on the net live to inflame and create havoc and chaos, you don't want to interact and debate about anything, as long as you behave in such a childish manner, you will get as good as you give.

So if I'm so bad and don't meet your standards, just use the filter stone provided and we'll all get along...lol

Murron  posted on  2010-02-12   6:08:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: mininggold (#67)

I don't live in Alaska.

Everyone there is thankful for that, hagatha! You're right where you belong; in a Kalipornia mental institution.

Sneakypete, have you ever been married? Said things you later regretted?

Ibluafartsky  posted on  2010-02-12   14:57:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Murron (#68)

it's because of creeps like you who poke and prod a person into saying things they might not ordinarally say!

The devil made you do it? Like God hasn't heard that one before.

Skip Intro  posted on  2010-02-12   15:17:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Nebuchadnezzar (#36)

How about, you are insane lying cock sucker?

Does that work for you?

Quoted by PDS insane assholes every where.

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-02-16   17:33:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: sneakypete (#32)

No, but we sure know who is a LIAR, and who believes LIARS don't we petey?

Quoted by PDS insane assholes every where.

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-02-16   17:34:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: sneakypete (#34)

That's you after you slimmed down channeling your hero and mentor petey.

Quoted by PDS insane assholes every where.

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-02-16   17:36:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: needle dicked dickus lickus wishes so much for Bickus Dickus (#35)

LMAO!!!!!!!!

An obviously inferior mental midget such as you calling ANYONE "stupid"?

ROTFLMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GOOD ONE!

Pointing at you wittle dickie, LMAOAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quoted by PDS insane assholes every where.

Mad Dog  posted on  2010-02-16   17:38:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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