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Title: A ‘Liberty’ Rebellion in Idaho Threatens to Undermine Coronavirus Orders
Source: dnyuz/New York Times
URL Source: https://dnyuz.com/2020/04/07/a-libe ... -undermine-coronavirus-orders/
Published: Apr 7, 2020
Author: Mike Baker
Post Date: 2020-04-07 10:56:12 by Hondo68
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SANDPOINT, Idaho — Inside an old factory building north of Boise, a few dozen people gathered last week to hear from Ammon Bundy, the man who once led an armed takeover of an Oregon wildlife refuge.

The meeting, which appeared to violate orders by Gov. Brad Little of Idaho to avoid group gatherings, was an assertion of what Mr. Bundy said was a constitutional right to peacefully assemble. But Mr. Bundy said he also hoped to create a network of people ready to come to the aid of those facing closure of their businesses or other interference from the government as a result of the coronavirus outbreak.

“If it gets bad enough, and our rights are infringed upon enough, we can physically stand in defense in whatever way we need to,” Mr. Bundy told the meeting. “But we hope we don’t have to get there.”

In a state with pockets of deep wariness about both big government and mainstream medicine, the sweeping restrictions aimed at containing the spread of the virus have run into outright rebellion in some parts of Idaho, which is facing its own worrying spike in coronavirus cases.

The opposition is coming not only from people like Mr. Bundy, whose armed takeover of the Oregon refuge with dozens of other men and women in 2016 led to a 41-day standoff, but also from some state lawmakers and a county sheriff who are calling the governor’s statewide stay-at-home order an infringement on individual liberties.

Health care providers and others have been horrified at the public calls to countermand social-distancing requirements, warning that failing to take firm measures could overwhelm Idaho’s small hospitals and put large numbers of people at risk of dying.

“There are a lot of people that listen to those voices around here,” said Dr. Hans Hurt, an emergency doctor at Bonner General Health, a medical center in the town of Sandpoint, 45 miles north of Coeur d’Alene. “Even if it’s just a small group that wants to exercise their right to assemble, it puts the community at large at such a high risk.”

Many of the latest claims about the Constitution have come from Idaho’s northern panhandle, where vaccination rates for other diseases have always been low and where wariness of government is high.

State Representative Heather Scott, a Republican from Blanchard, northwest of Coeur d’Alene, is encouraging her constituents to push back on the statewide stay-at-home order, saying people have “a God-given constitutionally protected right to peacefully assemble.”

Tim Remington, a Coeur d’Alene pastor who was appointed to the State House of Representatives in January, led a church service on March 29, four days after the stay-at-home order went into effect, that was open to the public.

And in Bonner County, Sheriff Daryl Wheeler posted an open letter saying that the public had been “misled” by public health officials’ dire predictions and called on the governor to convene an emergency session of the Legislature to debate his stay-at-home order.

“In the spirit of liberty and the Constitution, you can request those that are sick to stay home,” Sheriff Wheeler wrote. “But, at the same time, you must release the rest of us to go on with our normal business.”

The dissent has left local medical workers pleading with Idahoans to heed the message that has helped contain the coronavirus elsewhere: Stay home. Don’t gather in groups. And, perhaps most challenging, trust us.

“Don’t take legal advice from a doctor,” said Dr. Benjamin Good, an emergency medicine physician affiliated with Bonner General Health. “And don’t take medical advice from a sheriff.”

At a time when health officials say social-distancing measures are vital to avert catastrophic outbreaks of the kind that could overwhelm hospitals — as happened in Italy — Idaho’s tensions threaten to undermine compliance. While the state was one of the last in the country to identify a coronavirus case, it now has far more cases per capita than California. Blaine County, which includes the popular Sun Valley ski resort, now has the largest per capita concentration of coronavirus cases in the nation.

The state as of Monday had 1,170 cases; 13 people had died.

Yet the blowback to the governor’s stay-at-home order has continued to escalate.

Mr. Bundy said in an interview that a group in the Boise area was looking for a venue to host an Easter service this coming weekend with a potential crowd of 1,000 people. Mr. Bundy said a man in Twin Falls hoped to host communion in a park. And Mr. Bundy himself is now leading regular meetings with dozens of people to assess how to fight back against what he calls government overreach, including with a physical presence if necessary.

“I will be there, and I will bring as many people as I can,” he told those who attended the meeting he convened on March 26, a day after the statewide stay-at-home order went into effect. “We will form a legal defense for you. We will perform an active political defense for you. And we will also, if necessary, provide a physical defense for you, so that you can continue in your rights.”

Much of the region’s tensions revolve around skepticism over the advice from medical leaders, which some people here regard as unwarranted. Mr. Bundy compared the effects of the virus to the flu, even though epidemiologists have warned that it can kill at a much higher rate.

He said that he would prefer in any case to become infected soon, while he is otherwise healthy.

“I want the virus now,” Mr. Bundy said.

Mr. Wheeler, the Bonner County sheriff, said in his letter to the governor that the state needed to discuss how serious the threat was. “I do not believe that suspending the Constitution was wise, because Covid-19 is nothing like the plague,” he wrote.

Ms. Scott, while acknowledging the coronavirus outbreak as an emergency, sent a newsletter to constituents calling it “The Virus That Tried to Kill the Constitution.”

Doctors in Idaho have been concerned not only about the public calls for canceling the governor’s stay-at-home order, but also about comments that play down the danger of the virus. Covid-19, the illness caused by the virus, is a particular threat to people who are older or who have underlying conditions, as evidenced by a nursing home in Washington State where the virus contributed to dozens of deaths.

“If we stop doing what we’re doing, it could deteriorate so quickly, and our resources could be overwhelmed so quickly,” said Dr. Hurt, the emergency doctor at Bonner General Health. “It’s scary for the people in this community, and scary for us as hospital workers, to be inundated with that.”

Dr. Robert Burnett, the medical director for cardiovascular surgery at Kootenai Health in Coeur d’Alene, just south of Ms. Scott’s district, said he personally viewed the comments from the lawmaker and the sheriff as “criminal.” He said he was “horrified” that public officials would use their platforms to encourage behavior that threatens lives.

To Dr. Burnett, Ms. Scott and Mr. Wheeler have “relinquished their claim to a ventilator” should they get sick from the virus and need one — although he hastened to add that they would get complete care should they get sick.

While the region does not have very many patients — there have been about 50 cases in the panhandle — some medical workers said that may be because of limited testing; there could well be more undetected cases. Hospitals have been bracing for a potential surge.

Outside Bonner General Health, officials have erected two tents to help treat patients should extra space be needed. Worried about constrained supply chains, they are reusing masks, storing each one in a paper bag after use to be opened five days later. In a former grieving room, dozens of paper bags are hanging on a line, clipped with clothespins.

One resident rode by the hospital on a bicycle over the weekend and tossed over a bag containing a few N95 masks.

Dr. Good, the emergency physician, said the decision to urge people to stay home was not an easy one. Last month, when that conversation was happening locally, Dr. Good said, he stopped by the home of his best friends in town, who run a restaurant, to explain the disruption that was going to be needed.

“It was a horrible discussion to have,” Dr. Good said.

Mr. Little’s statewide stay-at-home order was issued two weeks ago. He had previously issued a limited order focused on Blaine County, where medical workers were already battling a surge of cases. That county has identified more than 400 cases — close to two cases for every 100 residents.

Part of the dispute over Mr. Little’s order was whether churches qualified as essential businesses.

Mr. Remington, the lawmaker who also serves as a pastor, said he had heard from the lieutenant governor that churches would be considered essential and proceeded accordingly. But the official order does not list churches as essential businesses.

After the governor’s order, Mr. Remington said, the church encouraged parishioners to stay home unless they felt they needed to join with other worshipers for their well-being. He said the church provides services for people in substance abuse rehabilitation and wanted to keep the doors open for them while encouraging social distancing and offering masks.

But then the board of the church decided, against Mr. Remington’s wishes, to halt all in-person services for the time being.

Mr. Remington said he was hoping that more Idahoans would decide to stand up for their rights. “Whatever happened to ‘Give me liberty or give me death’?” he said.


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#1. To: Hondo68 (#0)

Inside an old factory building north of Boise, a few dozen people gathered last week to hear from Ammon Bundy, the man who once led an armed takeover of an Oregon wildlife refuge.

misterwhite  posted on  2020-04-07   11:06:47 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Hondo68 (#0)

This is what is known as a "self-solving problem".

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2020-04-07   11:09:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: misterwhite (#1)

Seasonal flu deaths Idaho 2018-19....58

Corona virus deaths Idaho 2020....13 (with a 40% false positive test result)

watchman  posted on  2020-04-07   12:42:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: watchman (#3) (Edited)

My understanding is that people get the flu pretty much spread out through the flu season.

But it looked like COVID-19 was going to hit all at once, overwhelming our medical facilities (as it did in China and Italy). So Trump's job was to a) delay the infection and b) spread it out so we could handle it.

misterwhite  posted on  2020-04-07   14:40:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: misterwhite (#4)

going to

How long must we wait? Should have named the virus "Godot"...

watchman  posted on  2020-04-07   15:34:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: watchman (#5)

I see your Waiting for Godot and raise you Waiting for Guffman (who also never shows up).

misterwhite  posted on  2020-04-08   15:07:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: misterwhite (#6) (Edited)

Waiting for Guffman

Too funny!

I would laugh if it weren't prohibited...

watchman  posted on  2020-04-08   16:04:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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