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Title: Louisiana church packed for services again despite charges against pastor amid pandemic
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CBS News
URL Source: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/corona ... ges-against-pastor-tony-spell/
Published: Apr 1, 2020
Author: AP
Post Date: 2020-04-01 14:41:57 by Deckard
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Views: 12269
Comments: 49
Central, Louisiana — Buses and cars filled a Louisiana church parking lot for another service Tuesday evening as worshippers flocked to hear a Louisiana pastor who is facing misdemeanor charges for holding services despite a ban on gatherings amid the coronavirus pandemic. A few protesters turned out, too, including a man shouting through a bullhorn against those gathering at the Life Tabernacle Church in the city of Central, where pastor Tony Spell has been holding services. Another demonstrator held up a sign reading: "God don't like stupid." CBS Baton Rouge affiliate WAFB-TV reported the service was jammed with hundreds of parishioners. The station said there were also dozens of cars on hand to see if anyone stopped Spell from holding the service. Afterward, people began leaving the church, some chatting outside the front doors, and many appearing to not be adhering to social distancing recommendations to remain at least six feet apart. Hugs and handshakes were shared freely as people said their goodbyes and departed. Hours earlier on Tuesday, Spell was issued a summons for holding services previously at the church in violation of the governor's order banning gatherings. "Come out, Tony. Come tell us why you're endangering people's lives," the man with the bullhorn shouted Tuesday evening, directing his words at the pastor. Flanked by some of his congregation, including children and older people, Spell emerged from the church later Tuesday night and said he is going to keep his church doors open. He said he doesn't consider doing that any different than keeping the doors of Walmart open. Spell also compared going to church to going to the hospital, but for spiritual healing. "We are needy people. Our souls are lost," he said. "We need help, and the church is the salvation center of the soul, the sanctuary where we come together and meet." Spell told CBS News that 1,265 people went to his church on Sunday, and he defended their assembly. "We have a constitutional right to congregate," Spell said in an email on Monday. "We will continue." He said they disinfect the venue daily and even boasted that it's "cleaner" than open gas stations, Walmart and Sam's Club. Spell offered a "no comment" when asked whether his church was still collecting donations. Earlier this month, after a weekday service, he caught criticism for his controversial remarks when he told CBS affiliate WAFB that the coronavirus was "not a concern." "The virus, we believe, is politically motivated," Spell told WAFB. "We hold our religious rights dear and we are going to assemble no matter what someone says." Around Louisiana, more than 5,200 people have confirmed virus infections, and 239 state residents have died, according to the Louisiana health department. The order from Gov. John Bel Edwards prohibits gatherings of more than 10 people, said East Baton Rouge Parish District Attorney Hillar Moore. Each violation carries a maximum penalty of six months in jail and a $500 fine, Moore said. "The whole situation just puts everyone at risk," Moore said. "We ask everyone to abide by the governor's order." The governor has urged church leaders instead to continue their services online or in smaller groups to lessen the risks. Spell had previously confirmed he was facing misdemeanor charges. He said when reached by phone earlier that he was read his rights and fingerprinted - but the summons wasn't deterring him. He said he would continue to defy the ban. "We're still here and still assembling and having church," Spell said. Asked why he was defying the governor's orders, he said, "Because the Lord told us to." Asked whether he was concerned about the pandemic, Spell said: "I'm no more concerned than I would be going to Walmart or Home Depot." Moore said earlier that additional charges could be issued if Spell continued to disobey Edwards' ban on gatherings. He said the pastor wasn't booked into jail earlier because parish officials are trying to lessen the jail population amid the risks of the highly contagious virus. Earlier, Central Assistant Police Chief Darren Sibley had said officers had no plans to try to stop Tuesday night's prayer service. But he said they would "document everything and forward everything to the district attorney." "He is doing this for publicity," Sibley said of Spell. "He is putting the citizens of the community at risk. And he is putting the people in his congregation at risk." Edwards issued a "stay at home" order that he said he will extend through the end of April to combat the spread of the COVID-19 disease caused by the coronavirus, which is threatening to overwhelm hospitals with patients. Edwards said Tuesday that law enforcement authorities had been "extremely patient" with Spell and had "done everything that they could" to get him to comply with the governor's order before issuing the summons. "I'm going to appeal to them one more time: Please stop what you're doing," Edwards said. "The overwhelming majority of our faith leaders have found other ways to engage with their parishioners."
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#1. To: Deckard (#0)
While reading through the article you posted here, I was reminded of all the terrible things you said here about Dr. Ronnie W. Floyd after you only briefly watched a carefully edited video showing a very short excerpt from one of his sermons. You really had at him – You tore into him. Remember? In case you don’t, I will refresh your memory and post that you said: Yet you have absolutely nothing to say about Pastor Rony Spell holding services at Life Tabernacle Church in the city of Central, Louisiana despite a ban on gatherings amid the coronavirus pandemic and facing misdemeanor charges for holding services Puzzling … Since you will not pursue the matter with Pastor Tony Spell like you did with Dr. Ronnie W. Flood – Then I will by presenting this video of an interview with him for your consideration: Your reaction? Respectfully …
If you can't understand the difference between them, then I simply cannot help you to see. Dr. Ronnie W. Floyd is a false teacher. Yet you have absolutely nothing to say about Pastor Rony Spell holding services at Life Tabernacle Church in the city of Central, Louisiana despite a ban on gatherings amid the coronavirus pandemic and facing misdemeanor charges for holding services Of course I do - keep up God's work and keep your church open. The church is going the extra mile with safety precautions, I would go there. My reaction to the video? Thanks for posting it - it simply clarifies the reasons for staying open. "Is it any more irresponsible than people going into Costco where there's a thousand people, a WalMart where there's 300 people, and I'm not posing any more of a threat than the people who are at the mall right now...it seems that the church is being persecuted because we are an easier target. Yeah - who can disagree with that?
Yeah - who can disagree with that? If it were what Costco is doing, then it would next to impossible for someone to disagree with that. However, the statement made by Spell is a false premise since Costco is not allowing a thousand people in to shop. Spell is pulling an old Matt Agorist trick and you are falling for it like you always fall for those by Matt. Spell is basing his argument on a false premise about Costco. He is making an incorrect proposition as a basis for his argument. Therefore, since the premise is not correct, any conclusion drawn may lead someone to fall prey to the error. It is blatantly obvious to everyone that you fell prey to it. The Costco here has closed down nonessential operations and limits the number of people first in – and lets the people waiting 6 feet apart in the controlled cue enter on a one out and one in basis. Now that, Deckard, is an orgainsation – as you say “going the extra mile with safety precautions.” You have stated: I have asked you before and now I will again ask you: What the safety precautions are that the church is going the extra mile with? Since you either refuse to answer the question or have no factual evidence upon which to base an answer to the question – Consequently, I can easily take your evasiveness as firm evidence that you are also pulling a Matt Agorist with your emphatic statement. Respectfully …
Asked and answered. Consequently, I can easily take your evasiveness as firm evidence that you are also pulling a Matt Agorist with your emphatic statement. Consequently I can easily take your post as more Gatlin bullshit and hatred of the First amendment. Respectfully - you're a government tool.
Asked and answered. Link – Please …
He said they disinfect the venue daily and even boasted that it's "cleaner" than open gas stations, Walmart and Sam's Club.
Is that “daily” before or after he has allowed “1,000” people in his church and the tent in front of the church – congregating closely together while hugging each other – as testified to in one article? What he is doing is the same … … Shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted … As of yesterday, 18 Baton Rouge residents have now died from coronavirus – coroner says. And that number is increasing daily at a rapid rate. Yet you told me you would attend his church. This was after you told me that you were shopping at “wee hours” and “working from home” to avoid the coronavirus. Please, how can you resolve these diametrically opposing statements. Deckard, I often times think you are truly batshit crazy – certifiably nuts – and you never do anything to dispel that perception … Respectfully …
Please, how can you resolve these diametrically opposing statements. Asked and answered. Deckard, I often times think you are truly batshit crazy – certifiably nuts You certainly are entitled to your "opinion", now may I offer mine? You have been a rabid cheerleader for any and all government control for your entire life, and your insane belief that the government and media are honest and are not exploiting this crisis makes you out to be one of the most gullible people on the planet. Your true fascist colors are fully on display for all to see.
You have not known me my entire life. Ergo you statement is a False premise. When the premise is false then the information is unreliable. Will you ever learn …
Ergo you statement is a False premise. Perhaps I haven't - but it's pretty obvious that you have been a government toady for a long time. You never will understand the concept of freedom - especially freedom of religion. Pretty sure you have admitted to being a life-long gooberment sheep in the past.
... perhaps ... … pretty obvious … … pretty sure ... Hmmm … The excessive use of qualifiers makes you sound unsure of your facts; it also makes your writing too informal. Get your act together …
#41. To: Gatlin (#39)
Piss off schoolmarm.
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Do you see the arrogance and cockiness of this hotshot? He comes off as so full of pride. I can't believe those people sit there in his church and expose themselves to this nonsense.
#12. To: Gatlin (#1)
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#27. To: Deckard (#12)
Is it any more irresponsible than people going into Costco where there's a thousand people […] it seems that the church is being persecuted because we are an easier target.
The church is going the extra mile with safety precautions, I would go there.
#28. To: Gatlin (#27)
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I have asked you before and now I will again ask you: What the safety precautions are that the church is going the extra mile with? <
#29. To: Deckard (#28)
I have asked you before and now I will again ask you: What the safety precautions are that the church is going the extra mile with?
#30. To: Gatlin (#29)
#31. To: Deckard (#30)
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He said they disinfect the venue daily …
#32. To: Gatlin (#31)
Yet you told me you would attend his church. This was after you told me that you were shopping at “wee hours” and “working from home” to avoid the coronavirus.
#35. To: Deckard (#32)
You have been a rabid cheerleader for any and all government control for your entire life …
#37. To: Gatlin (#35)
You have not known me my entire life.
#39. To: Deckard (#37)
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Replies to Comment # 39. The excessive use of qualifiers makes you sound unsure of your facts; it also makes your writing too informal.
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