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Title: Chelsea Clinton's dubious 'earnings' She made big bucks in chemicals and TV, courtesy of nepotism, not skill
Source: Washington Times
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Published: Jan 8, 2020
Author: Tammy Bruce
Post Date: 2020-01-08 09:05:57 by IbJensen
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Views: 24486
Comments: 162

With all the talk about Hunter Biden these days, one might get the impression that he is the only child of a politician to benefit from his parents’ position and the last name they inherited.

Before Hunter Biden, the son of former Vice President Joseph R. Biden, got his strange but lucrative deal to sit on the board of energy company Burisma Holdings in Ukraine to the tune of $50,000 a month, there was Chelsea Clinton, the only child of former President Bill Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. She was similarly rewarded with jobs and board positions that had absolutely no relationship with that young woman’s interests, life, education or any perceived expertise.

All of this has racked up to what the New York Post reported back in 2015 was an estimated net worth of $15 million for the then-34-year-old. More recently, Barron’s, the finance newspaper, revealed that Chelsea Clinton has now reaped $9 million from a corporate board position. In 2011, while her mother was still secretary of state, she was appointed to IAC/Interactive, an Internet investment company. She receives an annual $50,000 retainer and $250,000 worth of restricted IAC stock units, according to Barron’s.

Ironically, and something the Clintons would be loathed to admit, they like most other American families benefitted from President Donald Trump’s leadership and correlating economic renaissance.

The Hill reported, “IAC stock has risen 89%, 50% and 36% in 2017, 2018 and 2019, respectively, a far steeper rise in the broader stock market Consequently, Chelsea Clinton reported in December of last year her holdings ballooned to $8.95 million.

In 2017, Chelsea Clinton was also named to travel site Expedia’s Board of Directors. Because she’s a … business genius? A travel genius? An investment prodigy? The Hill


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The Clintons are racketeers and murderers. The pile of dead bodies they leave behind them in their unhindered quest for illegal riches should be enough to lock the three of them away for 50 years.

Incidentally, Chelsea is absolutely ghastly looking and watching her speak is like a Disney cartoon come to life. Her comments are always vacuously stupid. (1 image)

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#33. To: Willie Green (#31)

She's an intermediary... They know she's already in heaven,

She is dead. She can't hear shit. The resurrection takes place in the future when Christ returns according to the Bible.

There is not one single bible verse that says to pray to a dead sinner.

Not one verse about an intermediary to pray to.

Anyone who thinks dead Mary hears their prayers is a stupid person. They are also a person who doesn't believe the Bible because as I pointed out she is dead and there has been no resurrection as yet. They add to scripture and pervert the word of God. Idiots.

She's dead Jim.

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-01-12   8:18:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Willie Green (#32)

Wrong again... It doesn't matter how she conceived any other kids she may have had... Catholics are only referring to the birth of Christ... That was a miraculous act of God... No horny human poked her in the pussy to do that.

No you are wrong again. They are talking in present tense. She is the former virgin Mary mother of the Christ. But she isn't a virgin anymore. She can't hear you because she is dead. And she is a sinner she said so in scripture.

You don't believe the Bible is what is sounds like to me. Which is your choice to not believe the truth. Evil people and dummies do it all the time.

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-01-12   8:20:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Willie Green (#32)

Are you trying to tell us that Joseph was actually Christ's biological daddy?

Nope that would be a dumb position.

Christ was born of a virgin. Mary was a virgin when Christ was born according to scripture. I believe that to be the case.

Mary had an important role. She just isn't someone you are supposed to pray to. Because she is dead and not risen.

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-01-12   8:22:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: A K A Stone (#33)

She is dead. She can't hear shit.

So what's that in Heaven with all the angels? Her cold, stiff, worm-eaten corpse?

Don't you believe that people have souls/spirits? They don't need a pile of rotting flesh to know what's going on down here on Earth.

Willie Green  posted on  2020-01-12   9:21:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Willie Green (#36)

So what's that in Heaven with all the angels? Her cold, stiff, worm-eaten corpse?

Don't you believe that people have souls/spirits? They don't need a pile of rotting flesh to know what's going on down here on Earth.

The resurrection has not happened yet. Or has it?

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-01-12   9:33:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Willie Green (#36)

Trying to talk to the dead is an occult practice and a sin.

Leviticus 19:31 ESV / 89 helpful votes “Do not turn to mediums or necromancers; do not seek them out, and so make yourselves unclean by them: I am the Lord your God.

Isaiah 8:19 ESV / 54 helpful votes And when they say to you, “Inquire of the mediums and the necromancers who chirp and mutter,” should not a people inquire of their God? Should they inquire of the dead on behalf of the living?

Deuteronomy 18:9-14 ESV / 50 helpful votes “When you come into the land that the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominable practices of those nations. There shall not be found among you anyone who burns his son or his daughter as an offering, anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, or a sorcerer or a charmer or a medium or a necromancer or one who inquires of the dead, for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord. And because of these abominations the Lord your God is driving them out before you. You shall be blameless before the Lord your God, ...

Leviticus 20:6 ESV / 48 helpful votes “If a person turns to mediums and necromancers, whoring after them, I will set my face against that person and will cut him off from among his people.

1 Timothy 4:1 ESV / 45 helpful votes Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons,

Ecclesiastes 9:5 ESV / 45 helpful votes For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing, and they have no more reward, for the memory of them is forgotten.

2 Corinthians 11:14 ESV / 33 helpful votes And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.

Psalm 146:4 ESV / 28 helpful votes When his breath departs, he returns to the earth; on that very day his plans perish.

Psalm 115:17 ESV / 26 helpful votes The dead do not praise the Lord, nor do any who go down into silence.

1 John 4:1 ESV / 22 helpful votes Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.

Deuteronomy 18:10 ESV / 18 helpful votes There shall not be found among you anyone who burns his son or his daughter as an offering, anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, or a sorcerer

Hebrews 9:27 ESV / 17 helpful votes And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment,

Revelation 16:14 ESV / 16 helpful votes For they are demonic spirits, performing signs, who go abroad to the kings of the whole world, to assemble them for battle on the great day of God the Almighty.

Revelation 21:8 ESV / 15 helpful votes But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”

James 2:19 ESV / 15 helpful votes You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder!

Isaiah 8:20 ESV / 14 helpful votes To the teaching and to the testimony! If they will not speak according to this word, it is because they have no dawn.

1 John 4:1-3 ESV / 12 helpful votes Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already.

Romans 10:9 ESV / 12 helpful votes Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

John 3:16 ESV / 12 helpful votes “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

John 3:18 ESV / 11 helpful votes Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.

Exodus 22:18 ESV / 11 helpful votes “You shall not permit a sorceress to live.

John 11:11-14 ESV / 10 helpful votes After saying these things, he said to them, “Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep, but I go to awaken him.” The disciples said to him, “Lord, if he has fallen asleep, he will recover.” Now Jesus had spoken of his death, but they thought that he meant taking rest in sleep. Then Jesus told them plainly, “Lazarus has died,

Deuteronomy 18:11-12 ESV / 10 helpful votes Or a charmer or a medium or a necromancer or one who inquires of the dead, for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord. And because of these abominations the Lord your God is driving them out before you.

Ephesians 2:9 ESV / 9 helpful votes Not a result of works, so that no one may boast.

Matthew 22:32 ESV / 9 helpful votes ‘I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? He is not God of the dead, but of the living.”

1 Timothy 2:5 ESV / 8 helpful votes For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,

Acts 10:43 ESV / 8 helpful votes To him all the prophets bear witness that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.”

John 6:44 ESV / 8 helpful votes No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day.

Deuteronomy 18:11 ESV / 8 helpful votes Or a charmer or a medium or a necromancer or one who inquires of the dead,

Hebrews 5:14 ESV / 7 helpful votes But solid food is for the mature, for those who have their powers of discernment trained by constant practice to distinguish good from evil.

Ephesians 4:30 ESV / 7 helpful votes And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.

Acts 17:11 ESV / 7 helpful votes Now these Jews were more noble than those in Thessalonica; they received the word with all eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so.

Malachi 4:3 ESV / 7 helpful votes And you shall tread down the wicked, for they will be ashes under the soles of your feet, on the day when I act, says the Lord of hosts.

Luke 1:37 ESV / 6 helpful votes For nothing will be impossible with God.”

Ecclesiastes 9:5-6 ESV / 6 helpful votes For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing, and they have no more reward, for the memory of them is forgotten. Their love and their hate and their envy have already perished, and forever they have no more share in all that is done under the sun.

Revelation 1:1-20 ESV / 5 helpful votes The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show to his servants the things that must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John, who bore witness to the word of God and to the testimony of Jesus Christ, even to all that he saw. Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear, and who keep what is written in it, for the time is near. John to the seven churches that are in Asia: Grace to you and peace from him who is and who was and who is to come, and from the seven spirits who are before his throne, and from Jesus Christ the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood ...

Romans 6:23 ESV / 5 helpful votes For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

1 Chronicles 10:13-14 ESV / 5 helpful votes So Saul died for his breach of faith. He broke faith with the Lord in that he did not keep the command of the Lord, and also consulted a medium, seeking guidance. He did not seek guidance from the Lord. Therefore the Lord put him to death and turned the kingdom over to David the son of Jesse.

Leviticus 20:27 ESV / 5 helpful votes “A man or a woman who is a medium or a necromancer shall surely be put to death. They shall be stoned with stones; their blood shall be upon them.”

Leviticus 20:26-27 ESV / 5 helpful votes You shall be holy to me, for I the Lord am holy and have separated you from the peoples, that you should be mine. “A man or a woman who is a medium or a necromancer shall surely be put to death. They shall be stoned with stones; their blood shall be upon them.”

Revelation 21:4 ESV / 4 helpful votes He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away.”

John 6:40 ESV / 4 helpful votes For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”

John 5:28-29 ESV / 4 helpful votes Do not marvel at this, for an hour is coming when all who are in the tombs will hear his voice and come out, those who have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil to the resurrection of judgment.

Luke 16:19-31 ESV / 4 helpful votes “There was a rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and who feasted sumptuously every day. And at his gate was laid a poor man named Lazarus, covered with sores, who desired to be fed with what fell from the rich man's table. Moreover, even the dogs came and licked his sores. The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried, and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus at his side. ...

Matthew 28:20 ESV / 4 helpful votes Teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”

Matthew 24:24 ESV / 4 helpful votes For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.

Ecclesiastes 12:7 ESV / 4 helpful votes And the dust returns to the earth as it was, and the spirit returns to God who gave it.

Exodus 13:9 ESV / 4 helpful votes And it shall be to you as a sign on your hand and as a memorial between your eyes, that the law of the Lord may be in your mouth. For with a strong hand the Lord has brought you out of Egypt.

1 Peter 5:8 ESV / 3 helpful votes Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.

1 Peter 3:18-19 ESV / 3 helpful votes For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit, in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison,

James 2:26 ESV / 3 helpful votes For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so also faith apart from works is dead.

2 Corinthians 5:6-8 ESV / 3 helpful votes So we are always of good courage. We know that while we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord, for we walk by faith, not by sight. Yes, we are of good courage, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord.

Romans 14:8 ESV / 3 helpful votes For if we live, we live to the Lord, and if we die, we die to the Lord. So then, whether we live or whether we die, we are the Lord's.

John 14:6 ESV / 3 helpful votes Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Luke 23:43 ESV / 3 helpful votes And he said to him, “Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in Paradise.”

Matthew 10:28 ESV / 3 helpful votes And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

Daniel 2:2 ESV / 3 helpful votes Then the king commanded that the magicians, the enchanters, the sorcerers, and the Chaldeans be summoned to tell the king his dreams. So they came in and stood before the king.

Psalm 23:4 ESV / 3 helpful votes Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they comfort me.

Psalm 6:5 ESV / 3 helpful votes For in death there is no remembrance of you; in Sheol who will give you praise?

1 Samuel 28:1-25 ESV / 3 helpful votes In those days the Philistines gathered their forces for war, to fight against Israel. And Achish said to David, “Understand that you and your men are to go out with me in the army.” David said to Achish, “Very well, you shall know what your servant can do.” And Achish said to David, “Very well, I will make you my bodyguard for life.” Now Samuel had died, and all Israel had mourned for him and buried him in Ramah, his own city. And Saul had put the mediums and the necromancers out of the land. The Philistines assembled and came and encamped at Shunem. And Saul gathered all Israel, and they encamped at Gilboa. When Saul saw the army of the Philistines, he was afraid, and his heart trembled greatly. ...

Revelation 22:12 ESV / 2 helpful votes “Behold, I am coming soon, bringing my recompense with me, to repay everyone for what he has done.

Revelation 20:14 ESV / 2 helpful votes Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire.

Revelation 20:6 ESV / 2 helpful votes Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years.

Revelation 13:13-14 ESV / 2 helpful votes It performs great signs, even making fire come down from heaven to earth in front of people, and by the signs that it is allowed to work in the presence of the beast it deceives those who dwell on earth, telling them to make an image for the beast that was wounded by the sword and yet lived.

Revelation 12:9 ESV / 2 helpful votes And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.

1 John 3:8-10 ESV / 2 helpful votes Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him, and he cannot keep on sinning because he has been born of God. By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother.

1 Timothy 6:15-16 ESV / 2 helpful votes Which he will display at the proper time—he who is the blessed and only Sovereign, the King of kings and Lord of lords, who alone has immortality, who dwells in unapproachable light, whom no one has ever seen or can see. To him be honor and eternal dominion. Amen.

2 Thessalonians 2:9 ESV / 2 helpful votes The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders,

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 ESV / 2 helpful votes For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.

Colossians 3:1-25 ESV / 2 helpful votes If then you have been raised with Christ, seek the things that are above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God. Set your minds on things that are above, not on things that are on earth. For you have died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God. When Christ who is your life appears, then you also will appear with him in glory. Put to death therefore what is earthly in you: sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. ...

Colossians 2:1-23 ESV / 2 helpful votes For I want you to know how great a struggle I have for you and for those at Laodicea and for all who have not seen me face to face, that their hearts may be encouraged, being knit together in love, to reach all the riches of full assurance of understanding and the knowledge of God's mystery, which is Christ, in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. I say this in order that no one may delude you with plausible arguments. For though I am absent in body, yet I am with you in spirit, rejoicing to see your good order and the firmness of your faith in Christ. ...

Colossians 1:1-29 ESV / 2 helpful votes Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, To the saints and faithful brothers in Christ at Colossae: Grace to you and peace from God our Father. We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you, since we heard of your faith in Christ Jesus and of the love that you have for all the saints, because of the hope laid up for you in heaven. Of this you have heard before in the word of the truth, the gospel, ...

Philippians 1:21 ESV / 2 helpful votes For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain.

Ephesians 4:27 ESV / 2 helpful votes And give no opportunity to the devil.

Galatians 6:7 ESV / 2 helpful votes Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap.

Galatians 5:19-21 ESV / 2 helpful votes Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

1 Corinthians 15:51 ESV / 2 helpful votes Behold! I tell you a mystery. We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

1 Corinthians 15:22 ESV / 2 helpful votes For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive.

1 Corinthians 10:20-21 ESV / 2 helpful votes No, I imply that what pagans sacrifice they offer to demons and not to God. I do not want you to be participants with demons. You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons. You cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons.

Romans 12:2 ESV / 2 helpful votes Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.

Romans 8:38-39 ESV / 2 helpful votes For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 8:18 ESV / 2 helpful votes For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us.

Romans 8:10 ESV / 2 helpful votes But if Christ is in you, although the body is dead because of sin, the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

Romans 8:6 ESV / 2 helpful votes For to set the mind on the flesh is death, but to set the mind on the Spirit is life and peace.

Romans 5:8 ESV / 2 helpful votes But God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

Acts 9:37 ESV / 2 helpful votes In those days she became ill and died, and when they had washed her, they laid her in an upper room.

Acts 8:2 ESV / 2 helpful votes Devout men buried Stephen and made great lamentation over him.

Acts 2:34 ESV / 2 helpful votes For David did not ascend into the heavens, but he himself says, “‘The Lord said to my Lord, Sit at my right hand,

Acts 2:29 ESV / 2 helpful votes “Brothers, I may say to you with confidence about the patriarch David that he both died and was buried, and his tomb is with us to this day.

John 20:17 ESV / 2 helpful votes Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”

John 14:27 ESV / 2 helpful votes Peace I leave with you; my peace I give to you. Not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your hearts be troubled, neither let them be afraid.

John 14:26 ESV / 2 helpful votes But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.

John 14:3 ESV / 2 helpful votes And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am you may be also.

John 13:7 ESV / 2 helpful votes Jesus answered him, “What I am doing you do not understand now, but afterward you will understand.”

John 11:26 ESV / 2 helpful votes And everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this?”

John 11:25-26 ESV / 2 helpful votes Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live, and everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this?”

John 11:1-57 ESV / 2 helpful votes Now a certain man was ill, Lazarus of Bethany, the village of Mary and her sister Martha. It was Mary who anointed the Lord with ointment and wiped his feet with her hair, whose brother Lazarus was ill. So the sisters sent to him, saying, “Lord, he whom you love is ill.” But when Jesus heard it he said, “This illness does not lead to death. It is for the glory of God, so that the Son of God may be glorified through it.” Now Jesus loved Martha and her sister and Lazarus. ...

John 10:10 ESV / 2 helpful votes The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy. I came that they may have life and have it abundantly.

John 3:16-17 ESV / 2 helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.

John 1:12 ESV / 2 helpful votes But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God,

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A K A Stone  posted on  2020-01-12   9:41:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: A K A Stone (#34)

You don't believe the Bible is what is sounds like to me.

Ancient myths & fairy tales, just like I told you earlier...

It doesn't matter to me whether it's your version, the Catholic version, the Mormon version, the Hebrew version, the Muslim version, the Zoroastrian version, L. Ron Hubbard's Sci-Fi version, or the Buddhists, Shintos, Norse/Vikings or whatever other mythology you mental midgets want to go to war over because you want to claim that your God is better than your neighbor's God...

Fuck all that stupid bullshit...

But since I was raised Catholic, I thought I'd explain to you what Catholics actually believe instead of whatever it was you learned in that anti-Catholic Echo Chamber you live in... But if you're spiritually fulfilled by all that mumbo-jumbo, then your not the only pinhead that I'll never convince before I croak... So it's just not worth my time to even try... You're a big boy.... Make up your own goddam mind instead of swallowing what someone else spoon-feeds you hook, line & sinker...

Willie Green  posted on  2020-01-12   9:48:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: A K A Stone (#37)

The resurrection has not happened yet. Or has it?

So what do you think the Easter Bunny is all about? Just another excuse to sell chocolate?

Willie Green  posted on  2020-01-12   9:51:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Willie Green (#39)

Fuck all that stupid bullshit...

We all get to choose to believe in God or not.

I guess you made your choice to be an atheist.

Your position is that Jesus was a liar. Ok got ya.

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-01-12   9:54:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Willie Green (#40)

So what do you think the Easter Bunny is all about? Just another excuse to sell chocolate?

The easter bunny isn't biblical. Are you going bring up the tooth fairy next?

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-01-12   9:55:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: A K A Stone (#38)

Suggest a Verse

Second verse, same as the first...

The Church of England is built on a pile of bullshit too..

What kind of so-called "Christian" lops off his wifes head & starts his own church just because his first child wasn't a boy? Shit... You all can countinue to argue about that for another 500 years and kill tens of thousand more people over that stupid bullshit...

Willie Green  posted on  2020-01-12   10:05:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: A K A Stone (#41)

Your position is that Jesus was a liar. Ok got ya.

Nope.... I wasn't around back then so I don't even know if he was actually a real person or just some fictional character that Jews like to write about hoping that someone like him might actually show up some day and rescue them from the Romans...

Every fairy tale has to get started somehow, I suppose....

And then the so-called "leaders" and "rulers" discovered that they can use those fairy tales to manipulate & control the vast majority of imbeciles who actually believe that crap...

Willie Green  posted on  2020-01-12   10:14:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: A K A Stone (#42)

The easter bunny isn't biblical.

So what makes ancient papyrus or clay tablets so magical that they can be the only source of "Truth?"

Willie Green  posted on  2020-01-12   10:20:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Willie Green (#44)

The only one manipulated is you. You were manipulated to believe evolution. Then you apparently lost your faith and got o the highway to hell. There is still an off ramp if you swallow your pride repent and seek the truth. I shall pray for you. Wise up aaWillie there is no evolution.

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-01-12   10:21:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Willie Green (#45)

No contradictions perfect truth.

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-01-12   10:23:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: A K A Stone (#46)

You were manipulated to believe evolution

Well that's what makes me smarter than a monkey, so I'm OK with that...

Sorry you haven't gotten quite that far along just yet...

Willie Green  posted on  2020-01-12   10:31:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Willie Green (#48)

Oh your one of those people who fuck monkeys. You're a stupid person Willie. Maybe you will wise up. Probably not. You seem to prefer evil people over good ones and hell over heaven. I'll pray you repent.

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-01-12   10:33:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Willie Green (#25)

Thanks, Willie.

Vicomte13  posted on  2020-01-12   10:41:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: All, *Music* (#48)

Well that's what makes me smarter than a monkey,

Willie Green  posted on  2020-01-12   10:44:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Vicomte13 (#50)

Good morning Count.

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-01-12   10:45:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Vicomte13 (#50)

No problem... I hope you didn't find my irreverent perspective to be too disrespectful... I try not to be militant about my beliefs because I recognize that there are still many, many honest, good-willed people who still practice my former religion.... and they have the fundamental human right to figure out things for themselves...

Willie Green  posted on  2020-01-12   10:59:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: A K A Stone (#52)

Good evening.

Vicomte13  posted on  2020-01-12   20:33:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Willie Green (#53)

Don’t worry about irreverence with me. In my men’s group at Church they have nicknamed me “Lucifer” because of the countrrpoints I always raise. Irreverence amuses me. Personal insult annoys me. It’s so unnecessary.

Vicomte13  posted on  2020-01-12   20:36:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: A K A Stone, Willy Green, (#33)

If Mary is any sort of spiritual intermediary, then Paul was a liar when he wrote his first letter to Timothy:

5For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
6 who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time,
Given that Paul is the most prolific author of various books (epistles) in scripture and the most theological of the writers of NT scripture, Rome really can't elevate Mary to a position of co-Savior so easily. It is clear enough that they did this to aid in proselytizing those who belonged to ancient pagans who celebrated fertility goddesses, much as they have compromised scripture in other eras to hoodwink non-Christians into accepting the state religion of the Roman empire, namely Roman Catholicism.

Tooconservative  posted on  2020-01-12   21:57:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: IbJensen, redleghunter (#26)

I too am a Roman Catholic. The difference between myself and V is perhaps that I am Sedevacantist.

Interesting. It does raise a lot of interesting questions about religion to take the Sedevecantist position. I can barely imagine what you think about Pope Frank and his colorful opinions (when he isn't busy slapping women away if they dare to touch his sleeve). LOL.

I notice that Pope Frank is now telling Catholic youth that it is a profound error to convert non-Christians to Catholicism. Well, finally something us Prots can agree with.     : )

And, finally, in honor of the latest stupid Star Wars movie, here's a bit from the same satirists on C3PO crash-landing into a Pentecostal church.

[redleghunter loves these Lutheran satires as much as I do.]

Tooconservative  posted on  2020-01-12   22:19:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Tooconservative, Willie Green, Vicomte13 (#56)

Does Mary hear every prayer from every person on earth in every language?

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-01-12   22:35:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: A K A Stone (#58)

Does Mary hear every prayer from every person on earth in every language?

I'm afraid not. You see, she's dead.

Tooconservative  posted on  2020-01-12   22:42:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Tooconservative (#56) (Edited)

Paul doesn't have the final word. God sent Mary repeatedly to earth - the only person he has seny back since Jesus ascended. He sent her to Guadelupe, and thereby rapidly effected the conversion of the Mesoamerican and Latin American Indians to the faith of Jesus. He sent her to Lourdes, and the healing miracles still proliferate.

Your great theological error is to close off God's interactions with man with the end of the Bible. He has continued to do so, with miracle and with visitations. The public visitations, the person sent from Heaven for these things, is Mary. Over and over. So yeah, the Catholics are right about this.

You're like a Jew resisting Jesus. God manifestly does something new, it's not in your book, so you deny it. Some of your ilk even ascribe the actions of God to Satan. Jesus warned against doing that.

Vicomte13  posted on  2020-01-13   7:19:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Tooconservative (#59)

She's dead? Those who have fallen asleep in the Lord are dead? 'Fraid not. Jesus, call your office!

Vicomte13  posted on  2020-01-13   7:24:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Vicomte13 (#60)

God sent Mary repeatedly to earth

Not true. You are making shit up again like you do with dead lizards.

What verse is that? Oh it isn't in the Bible. Did a pedophile Pope tell that?

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-01-13   7:37:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Vicomte13 (#60)

Paul doesn't have the final word. God sent Mary repeatedly to earth - the only person he has seny back since Jesus ascended. He sent her to Guadelupe, and thereby rapidly effected the conversion of the Mesoamerican and Latin American Indians to the faith of Jesus. He sent her to Lourdes, and the healing miracles still proliferate.

Your great theological error is to close off God's interactions with man with the end of the Bible. He has continued to do so, with miracle and with visitations. The public visitations, the person sent from Heaven for these things, is Mary. Over and over. So yeah, the Catholics are right about this.

For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

You are a deceived idiot. It seems TC is right you will embrace the beast.

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-01-13   7:39:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Vicomte13 (#60)

Does Mary hear every prayer from everyone on earth in every language?

Is she the queen of heaven?

When you said exterminate the Iranians. When you said exterminate the rightwingers. I thought. By their fruit ye shall know them. This verse also came to mind.

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

You are pegged.

A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

The abundence of you heart said kill all right wingers. That sounds like something satan would say.

You also said it about other people like the Iranians. And more I believe.

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-01-13   7:44:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Vicomte13 (#60)

the only person he has (sic) seny back since Jesus ascended.

And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Has judgement day come?

Oh and there is this Mr Denier of Gods word.

The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the QUEEN OF HEAVEN...that they may provoke me to anger. Jeremiah 7:18

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-01-13   7:51:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Vicomte13 (#60)

our great theological error is to close off God's interactions with man with the end of the Bible. He has continued to do so, with miracle and with visitations. The public visitations, the person sent from Heaven for these things, is Mary. Over and over. So yeah, the Catholics are right about this.

No you are not right about this and neither are the idiot Catholics. You pray to her not God. The Mary you pray of is not the Mary of the Bible.

For there is one God, and ONE MEDIATOR between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. 1 Timothy 2:5

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-01-13   7:55:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Vicomte13 (#60)

our great theological error is to close off God's interactions with man with the end of the Bible. He has continued to do so, with miracle and with visitations. The public visitations, the person sent from Heaven for these things, is Mary. Over and over. So yeah, the Catholics are right about this.

And he said unto them, Full well ye REJECT the commandment of God, that ye may KEEP your own tradition. Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

Mark 7:9, 13

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-01-13   7:57:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Vicomte13 (#60)

You're like a Jew resisting Jesus. God manifestly does something new, it's not in your book, so you deny it. Some of your ilk even ascribe the actions of God to Satan. Jesus warned against doing that.

"something in your book" It isn't your book is it. You don't believe it. You think it is full of errors. You think God is to weak to preserve his word that he can't do that.

Romans 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; That includes the pope--he is a man. If his word contradicts the word of God, then he is lying according to the Bible.

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-01-13   7:59:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Tooconservative (#57)

Everything that happened during and after Vatican II, including the popes during that dark time is invalid.

Liberals are like Slinkys. They're good for nothing, but somehow they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.

IbJensen  posted on  2020-01-13   8:00:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Vicomte13 (#60)

it's not in your book, so you deny it.

Neither is there salvation in ANY other: for there is NONE other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Acts 4:12

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-01-13   8:01:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Vicomte13 (#60)

Paul doesn't have the final word. God sent Mary repeatedly to earth - the only person he has seny back since Jesus ascended.

This is in my book. They way you said that it was like an insult. Like it isn't your book.

Jesus said, "They that worship the Father must worship him in spirit and in TRUTH." We have to worship God according to the truth. God will not accept worship based on a lie.

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-01-13   8:03:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Vicomte13 (#60)

5 Then all the men which knew that their wives had burned incense unto other gods, and all the women that stood by, a great multitude, even all the people that dwelt in the land of Egypt, in Pathros, answered Jeremiah, saying,

16 As for the word that thou hast spoken unto us in the name of the Lord, we will not hearken unto thee.

17 But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem: for then had we plenty of victuals, and were well, and saw no evil.

18 But since we left off to burn incense to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, we have wanted all things, and have been consumed by the sword and by the famine.

19 And when we burned incense to the queen of heaven, and poured out drink offerings unto her, did we make her cakes to worship her, and pour out drink offerings unto her, without our men?

20 Then Jeremiah said unto all the people, to the men, and to the women, and to all the people which had given him that answer, saying,

21 The incense that ye burned in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem, ye, and your fathers, your kings, and your princes, and the people of the land, did not the Lord remember them, and came it not into his mind?

22 So that the Lord could no longer bear, because of the evil of your doings, and because of the abominations which ye have committed; therefore is your land a desolation, and an astonishment, and a curse, without an inhabitant, as at this day.

23 Because ye have burned incense, and because ye have sinned against the Lord, and have not obeyed the voice of the Lord, nor walked in his law, nor in his statutes, nor in his testimonies; therefore this evil is happened unto you, as at this day.

24 Moreover Jeremiah said unto all the people, and to all the women, Hear the word of the Lord, all Judah that are in the land of Egypt:

25 Thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel, saying; Ye and your wives have both spoken with your mouths, and fulfilled with your hand, saying, We will surely perform our vows that we have vowed, to burn incense to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her: ye will surely accomplish your vows, and surely perform your vows.

26 Therefore hear ye the word of the Lord, all Judah that dwell in the land of Egypt; Behold, I have sworn by my great name, saith the Lord, that my name shall no more be named in the mouth of any man of Judah in all the land of Egypt, saying, The Lord God liveth.

27 Behold, I will watch over them for evil, and not for good: and all the men of Judah that are in the land of Egypt shall be consumed by the sword and by the famine, until there be an end of them.

28 Yet a small number that escape the sword shall return out of the land of Egypt into the land of Judah, and all the remnant of Judah, that are gone into the land of Egypt to sojourn there, shall know whose words shall stand, mine, or their's.

29 And this shall be a sign unto you, saith the Lord, that I will punish you in this place, that ye may know that my words shall surely stand against you for evil:

30 Thus saith the Lord; Behold, I will give Pharaohhophra king of Egypt into the hand of his enemies, and into the hand of them that seek his life; as I gave Zedekiah king of Judah into the hand of Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon, his enemy, and that sought his life.

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-01-13   8:07:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: A K A Stone (#62)

What verse is that? Oh it isn't in the Bible.

You're right, it's not in the Bible, because these things happened over a thousand years after the Bible was written. Jesus' advent, the way he did it, is not in the Jewish Bible either - that was their complaint - that the Messiah was supposed to liberate them, be a warrior king in the mode of David, and they had all their Biblical passages lined up to prove it.

But then Jesus came as he did, and did what he did, and they were baffled, and disappointed, so they REJECTED him - HE can't be true, because he's not what we expected, it isn't written that way - not openly.

God sent Mary, and mass conversion followed. God sent Mary, and healings follow, in abundance, clear open miracles. No, it's not in the Bible. SO WHAT? God never said that he was going to stop interacting with men once the last Apostle died. That's the doctrine of idolators who have denied God the power of miracle, and of sending prophesy, and of sending Mary, etc., BECAUSE they want to limit everything to one book. Just exactly like the Jews did before. Same error. Same result.

Vicomte13  posted on  2020-01-13   8:22:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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