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Title: War Again on the Front Burner
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Paul Craig Roberts Institute for Political Economy
URL Source: https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/20 ... war-again-on-the-front-burner/
Published: Jan 3, 2020
Author: Paul Craig Roberts
Post Date: 2020-01-04 00:58:38 by Deckard
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Views: 5301
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The nonsensical statement below from the Pentagon announcing that the US government has committed an act of war against Iran should frighten everyone: “At the direction of the president, the US military has taken decisive defensive action to protect US personnel abroad by killing Qasem Soleimani, the head of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps-Quds Force, a US-designated Foreign Terrorist Organization.” “This strike was aimed at deterring future Iranian attack plans.” “The United States will continue to take all necessary action to protect our people and our interests wherever they are around the world.” Murdering a high-ranking official of a government is an act of war. It is impossible for an act of war to protect US personnel abroad. It is impossible for an act of war against Iran to deter future Iranian attack plans. Where there was no Iranian attack plan, there now is in response to the murder of Soleimani. Committing an act of war does not “protect our people and our interests.” It jeopardizes them. How is it possible for the Pentagon to issue such a nonsensical laughable justification for murdering a top official of another country? Where was Trump’s mind? Just as he is emerging from the impeachment hoax, why did he commit an impeachable act? Trump attacked another country without Congressional authorization. He thumbed his nose at Congress and the law. It is the duty of the President to enforce the laws of the United States, not break them. The Democrats now have a real impeachable offense to hang around Trump’s neck. But they will not make us of it. Trump struck down Soleimani, because that is what Netanyahu wanted. The main leaders of the impeachment hoax are Jews, and they are not going to line up against Israel. Adam Schiff, for example, the Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee who is leading the impeachment, gave his approval to Soleimani’s murder when he tweeted that Suleimani “was responsible for unthinkable violence and world is better off without him.” Israel is the main culprit in this crime. Trump is a secondary culprit. Soleimani himself bears responsibility. He should have known that he was a target and not exposed himself so carelessly. The Russian government also bears responsibility. Russia, China and Iran should long ago have formed a highly visible alliance. Such an alliance would have prevented the crazy and irresponsible act that Israel manuevered Trump into committing. But Putin doesn’t want war, and apparently historians have convinced Putin that alliances are the cause of war. Thus Putin avoids alliances, taking his que instead from American libertarians who say that free trade is the basis of peace. Strength is the guarantor of peace, and strength rests in a powerful alliance against US/Israeli aggression. Iran’s response was predictable and unfortunate. Iran declared it will take revenge, and most likely will. Iran’s revenge will give Israel the war it wants between the US and Iran. Iran would have done better to take its revenge and deny responsibility. Idiot American politicians, one of whom could end up as President, are furthering the cause of war by working up American patriotism with claims, false of course, that Iran is a “terrorist state” determined to harm America, that Iran is responsible for thousands of deaths, including hundreds of Americans, and so forth. We have heard all of this before. It is the US that is the terrorist state, having destroyed in whole or part seven Muslim countries in the 21st century, producing millions of deaths, injuries, and dispossessed and displaced peoples. I knew it was going to get worse when the Russian government permitted Israel to continue attacking Syrian targets after Russia had rescued Syria from Washington’s proxy army. As long as Israel runs US foreign policy in Israel’s interest, and as long as “non-compliant” countries are content for Washington to knock them off one by one, war will continue to be our future. Update: Washington decided to further inflame the situation with another strike: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/round-two-us-drone-airstrikes-kill-six-pro-iran-militia-commanders
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#1. To: Deckard (#0)
Iran has been at war against us since 1979. It never stopped. Only the naive or uninformed would consider this to be a new war. Their attack on our embassy in Iraq was just the latest skirmish.
It makes perfect sense. Iran must stop. If they don't, then there will be war, and Iran will be crushed. Fine by me. Exterminate the fuckers.
Storming the U.S. Embassy is not? Let's not forget who started this shit.
Good idea! Let's remember who started this shit nearly 20 years ago.
You're a sick fuck.
You'd better make that 1953 when we overthrew their elected government because they wanted to tax the oil companies, and barring access to levy the tax they confiscated them. The more I see of "America" the more I agree with Major General Butler.
To you fucks here on this forum: I've known a few Iranian people, some Muslim, some Christian, and some Zoroastrian. They are some of the best people I've known. Not like Arabs or Jews, who would knife you in the back with a smile. The Iranians are thoughtful, kind, and temperate. Super square by US standards, but as conservatives we should appreciate that.
Bless your heart.
I didn't know you're a tranny; another mental disorder. I understand that the symptoms appear in clusters, and there's no question the inside of your head is a clusterfuck. Talking like a southern woman isn't going to make you the belle of the ball. Not that I care about that, but do get some help on the murderous thoughts.
doesn't seem that plan succeeded, so what next, knock over a few sacred sites, make some martyrs. Now I'm sure Trump remembers that his favourite place in the ME is in the firing line. Hezbollah to the north and Iraq, Syria and Iran spoiling for a fight. The only thing that stops them is they have other objectives and much closer targets
I didn't know you were an asshole. Surprised me. The good guys don't last.
The problem with this sort of personal thing is that when this crisis passes, as it will, it will be gone, but I will still hate you. So, by going over the top with the personal insults, because you don't like my politics on this particular issue, you merely made it certain that we will never cooperate on anything again. This is why you will find yourself with fewer and fewer allies and friends as you age, and when the crisis hits you - as it inevitably does - nobody will have your back, because everybody will see you as an asshole, and won't care about your fall. That's the way it works.
I've known one Iranian man. He is a good man and I like him a lot. He is married to a french woman. I only know him because I worked for him on multiple occasions. He left Iran in 1967 I believe he told me. He basically said Iran was run by fanatics. He seemed secular and certainly not muslim. Muslims by definition are pieces of shit. All of them without exception. I define a muslim as someone who believes all of the Koran and practices it. I'm not talking about muslims in name only. I also know a Jewish man I work for. Best customer ever very nice and a good person. In the article it says a lie that Trump acted without congressional approval. That is a lie. Paul Craig Roberts is a liar. Also we are allowed to defend our embassy. The war powers act gives Trump authority also if he chose. Iran is our evil enemy and the sooner their leaders are dead the better.
You hate Catholics. Haven't you read that those who hate shall not enter the kingdom of heaven?
Paul Craig Roberts is delusional and obviously has nazi like fetishes against the Jews Gods chosen people. I'm going to have to think if I want nazi like propaganda on the site from this asshole.
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You should get informed about the dead terrorist leader. MEMRI TV Clips www.memri.org/reports/memri-archives-reports-and- clips-irgc-qods-force-commander-qassem-soleimani Clip No. 7526: IRGC Qods Force Commander Qassem Soleimani: We Have Created 'Territorial Continuity' for the Islamic Resistance by Connecting Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon, October 7, 2019 Clip No. 7482: IRGC Qods Force Commander General Qassem Soleimani Posts Video after Attacks in Abqaiq and Khurais: We Are the Nation of Martyrdom; Iraqi PMU, Yemeni Ansar Allah Are Following Imam Hussein’s Path, September 14, 2019 Clip No. 7044: IRGC Qods Force Commander Qassem Soleimani: Wahhabism Is American Islam with Jewish Roots, February 21, 2019 Clip No. 6691: IRGC Qods Force Commander Qassem Soleimani: Trump's Rhetoric Is That of a Casino; You May Start the War, But We Will Determine Its End, July 26, 2018 Clip No. 6434: IRGC Qods Force Commander Qassem Soleimani: The Blood of Imad Mughniyah Will Be Avenged by the Uprooting of the Child-Killing Zionist Regime, February 15, 2018 Clip No. 6428: IRGC Qods Force Commander Qassem Soleimani: Arab Countries with Ties to America Have Become Like Beggars; Iran Uprooted ISIS in the Service of Humanity, February 11, 2018 Clip No. 6393: Iraqi Official Hamid Al-Husseini: The Goal of the Resistance is to Preserve the Current Regimes; The Factions in Palestine Are Under the Command of Qassem Soleimani, December 18, 2017 Clip No. 6338: Hamas Leader Yahya Sinwar: Qassem Soleimani Contacted Us, Pledged to Place IRGC Capabilities at Our Disposal, December 25, 2017 Clip No. 6291: Qods Force Commander Qassem Soleimani: Americans Are Cowards, Brought Diapers for Their Soldiers in Iraq, November 26, 2017 Clip No. 5908: In Iranian Animated Feature Film, IRGC Qods Force Commander Soleimani Directs Battle against U.S. Forces in the Gulf, January 1, 2015 to February 26, 2017 Clip No. 5687: Iranian Dissident Mehdi Khazali Criticizes Iran's Qods Force Involvement in Syria: Soleimani's Mismanagement Destroyed Syria, September 10, 2016 MEMRI Reports Special Dispatch No. 5877: Iranian Campaign Touts IRGC Qods Force Commander Qassem Soleimani As 'Savior Of Iraq'; Soleimani: Iran Has Thousands Of Organizations Like Hizbullah; I Pray To Die A Martyr, November 10, 2014 Special Dispatch No. 5716: IRGC Qods Force Commander Soleimani: 'War Is A Grand School For Love, Morals, [And] Loyalty', April 20, 2014 Special Dispatch No. 6699: Prominent Iranian Dissident Mehdi Khazali: Iran's Strategy, Policy In Syria Is Qods Force Adventurism Led By Qassem Soleimani – And It Is Wrong, December 2, 2016 Special Dispatch No. 6611: Iranian General Discusses Shi'ite Liberation Army Under Command Of Qassem Soleimani, Who Is Subordinate To Supreme Leader Khamenei, September 15, 2016 Inquiry & Analysis No. 1242: Syria Regime Establishing Popular Armed Militias Modeled On Iranian Basij, April 25, 2016 Special Dispatch No. 6848: In Interview On Iranian News Website Close To IRGC, Iraqi President 'Lauds Iran's Timely Support, Backs [IRGC Commander] Gen. Soleimani', March 28, 2017 Special Dispatch No. 5483: Senior Iranian Officials, Representatives Of Iran's Proxies Console Qods Force Commander Qassem Soleimani At His Mother's Funeral, October 17, 2013 Special Dispatch No. 5429: Iran: If Syria Is Attacked, It Will Strike U.S., Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Turkey, Israel, As Well As E.U. Interests; Israel Will Be Destroyed, August 31, 2013
Good riddance to bad rubbish. If the Iranians want a war, we shan't disappoint them.
And if they DON'T want a war, they need to stop shooting missiles at my people. Oops, too late. You don't hate the enemy, Stone. I do.
Donnell LIVE from the WH, Fox News...... The enemy, Terrorist Donnell.
The man stood accused but the standard of law that we would hope applies to ourselves did not apply to him
You really need to do some homework sparky.
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. Can't stand truth, can you warmonger? Israel’s interest in the assassination continues to be my focus. Israel appears to have been a factor in Trump’s decision, beginning with the fact that his largest donor has called for a strike on Iran. As former White House negotiator Aaron David Miller tweeted: If the Israelis weren’t somehow involved in this, I’d be stunned. Sulrimani’s been on their list for a long time. The mainstream press keeps sidestepping the Israel angle, surely out of concern for antisemitism. So let’s connect the dots. Israel is virtually the only country that supported this operation, even the mainstream tells us. On MSNBC yesterday, Kristen Welker stated that American “partners and allies in the region” were against the killing “with the exception of Israel.” I'm going to have to think if I want nazi like propaganda on the site from this asshole. The only asshole here is you Stonie boy.
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. A submarine comes to periscope depth with intent to shoot a torpedo at an ocean liner. A U.S. destroyer sees it, hunts it down, and drops a depth charge on it, sinking it. All US personnel on the ocean liner protected. Dropping a load of thermo-nuclear bombs on and over Iran sends them back into the stone age. Iran glows in the dark for thousands of years. Iran has no future. Iran pounds sand with ballistic missiles. The fireworks display ends and they rejoice. Iran's plan was to go pound sand. It protects people if it prevents or deters an adversary from taking planned or threatened action. By calling him a uniformed member of an opposing armed force engaged in conflict of an international nature. Has Nancy moved to impeach Trump for retaliating against Soleimani? Will she pocket veto the impeachment? How many impeachments will her pockets hold? And just think, the ballistic missiles were paid for with the pallet loads of cash and other payments given to the Iranians by Obama. They will want to have that front and center as an election issue. The Dems and Neo-cons are already committing suicide, they can make double sure, as if Epstein had shot himself and blown his brains out and then hanged himself. Trump does what Trump wants. If it happens to make Netanyahu happy, that's coincidental. Adam Schiff just wanted to prove that not every word out of his mouth is a lie. The Dems are going to impeach Netanyahu. Not anymore. The Dems are going to impeach Putin. Or get another reset button. Iran pounded sand. It is unfortunate for Iran that all they could do was pound sand. And so they did. They pounded sand with a vengeance. Nope. All it did was move some sand. Probably true when all they could do was pound sand.
Isn't that adorable! Another Lindsey Graham/John McCain clone cheering for WWIII. Every fucking war has been based on lies - why would you think this time is different? Oh, right - Trump's in charge. He's doing the bidding of the PNAC neocons and deep state. I'm sick of watching you fucking warmongers fellating Trump pretending he's saving the world. Haven't you clowns learned anything from the debacles in Iraq and Afghanistan? Eat a buffet of dicks.
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. Dropping a load of thermo-nuclear bombs on and over Iran sends them back into the stone age. Iran glows in the dark for thousands of years. Iran has no future. Isn't that adorable! Another Lindsey Graham/John McCain clone cheering for WWIII. Isn't that just adorable. You left out the idiot writer's idiotic statement to remove all context. A bomb on Nagasaki and Hiroshima detered all Japanese military intentions in WW2. The writer's statement is absurd. I have seen no world wars since two atom bombs were dropped. I have not seen anyone wanting to relive the experience enough to repeat it either. Jackasses like you led the world from WW1 to WW2. We are not in a war. War is "a contention between two or more States through their armed forces, for the purpose of overpowering each other and imposing such conditions of peace as the victor pleases." II Lassa Oppenheim International Law 56 (1906), Mary Ellen O'Connell, International Law and the Use of Force, Foundation Press, New York 2005 at page 3. From O'Connell at 7: What mattered after 1945 was actual fighting, not the 19th century formalities that might mean a war was occurring legally even if no one ever fired a shot. ... But indicative of the fact "war" is not longer the significant legal term it once was, the United States fought a war on poverty and a war on drugs. Declarations of war lost their importance, too, but with the loss of this formal legal device, the law became more uncertain. The Geneva Conventions are triggered by "armed conflict;" the Charter's Article 2(4) actual[ly] prohibits "the use of force." Now we have armed conflicts of an international nature if it involves two nation States. It need not have a definable beginning or end, or even a definable military objective. He's doing the bidding of the PNAC neocons and deep state. Gee, I thought the neo-cons and deep staters hated Trump and impeached him. Yeah, from those and earlier unending conflicts, I learned that I want our military to bring such overwhelming force to armed conflict that the conflict is so one-sided that we have as few casualties as possible and the others will be dissuaded from trying to repeat their act. You on the other hand, would decry the use of the atomic bombs that ended WW2, and you would like Marquis de Queensbury rules to apply, and for there to be an equal playing field. Fuck that. I say no war, but if war comes, let the other son of a bitch die for his country. You would have sat back and sent the troops marching up the mountains to fight hand to hand, in the true spirit of a fair fight. War or armed conflict is about life and death, not a fair fight. The military does not choose when and where it engages in battle. The objective is to beat the shit out of the other side as quickly as possible and come home alive. The main lesson learned is to never let idiots like you near the levers of power.
I served in the military you GD cocksucker. Fuck you and the other chickenhawks like "bonespur" Trump. That lying prick PROMISED to bring the troops home - now he's sending thousands more, including 8 B-52's. And pathetic little shits like you mindlessly root for more.
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. And yep. BZ. Well done!
[Deckard #27] I served in the military you GD cocksucker. What is with your fixation with dicks and cocksucking? I swear you are fixated on sucking Steve McQueen's cock. I really do. I may just have to come over there and slap the dick out of your mouth. Or maybe I'll just have to take you out to pasture, stretch an old cow cunt over your head, and see if the bull can fuck some brains into you. In the meantime, just back up twenty paces, sprint forward as fast as you can, do a triple somersault, and disappear up your own ass. I salute your service. That must have been after your butt buddy Bill instituted that there don't ask, don't tell policy. Your unit was the manly manly one where the men were men and the sheep knew it. I wouldn't know much about that there don't ask, don't tell. But as long as you have started your dick measuring contest, I did my twenty years active duty, and ten years inactive reserve, and retired. But that was before your generation got that there don't ask, don't tell thing going. Sorry to disappoint, but I have long been on record as having voted for Obama. It was my statement of what I thought about the GOP nominating McCain. And let us not forget that McCain gave an invitation to Obama to eulogize him, and eulogize Obama did. Well, fuck you and your war heroes like John Kerry and Da Nang Dick Blumenthal. And don't forget to pay tribute to your heroine and survivor of the Battle of Bosnia, Hillary Clinton. And that article is still a mindless load of never-Trumper bullshit. Your only defense of that horse crap so far is to ball up your tiny fists and scream cocksucker.
#2. To: Deckard (#0)
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#3. To: Deckard (#0)
Murdering a high-ranking official of a government is an act of war.
#4. To: misterwhite (#3)
Let's not forget who started this shit.
#5. To: Vicomte13 (#2)
Exterminate the fuckers.
#6. To: WWG1WWA (#1)
Iran has been at war against us since 1979. It never stopped. Only the naive or uninformed would consider this to be a new war. Their attack on our embassy in Iraq was just the latest skirmish.
#7. To: Deckard (#0)
#8. To: Anthem (#5)
You're a sick fuck.
#9. To: Vicomte13 (#8)
#10. To: Deckard (#0)
“This strike was aimed at deterring future Iranian attack plans.”
#11. To: Anthem (#9)
I didn't know you're a tranny;
#12. To: Anthem (#9)
#13. To: Anthem (#7)
#14. To: Vicomte13 (#12)
but I will still hate you.
#15. To: Deckard (#0)
Israel is the main culprit in this crime.
#16. To: paraclete, Anthem, pinguinite (#10)
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#17. To: paraclete, Anthem, pinguinite (#10)
#18. To: A K A Stone (#17)
#19. To: A K A Stone (#17)
#20. To: Vicomte13, Trump live announcement, Iran War, Hillarys Martyrs, neocon warmongers (#19)
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Ron Paul - Lake Jackson Texas Values
#21. To: A K A Stone (#17)
#22. To: A K A Stone (#13)
In the article it says a lie that Trump acted without congressional approval. That is a lie.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#23. To: A K A Stone (#15)
Paul Craig Roberts is delusional and obviously has nazi like fetishes against the Jews Gods chosen people.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#24. To: Deckard (#0)
Murdering a high-ranking official of a government is an act of war. It is impossible for an act of war to protect US personnel abroad.
It is impossible for an act of war against Iran to deter future Iranian attack plans.
Where there was no Iranian attack plan, there now is in response to the murder of Soleimani.
Committing an act of war does not “protect our people and our interests.” It jeopardizes them.
How is it possible for the Pentagon to issue such a nonsensical laughable justification for murdering a top official of another country?
Where was Trump’s mind? Just as he is emerging from the impeachment hoax, why did he commit an impeachable act?
The Democrats now have a real impeachable offense to hang around Trump’s neck.
But they will not make us[e] of it.
Trump struck down Soleimani, because that is what Netanyahu wanted.
The main leaders of the impeachment hoax are Jews, and they are not going to line up against Israel. Adam Schiff, for example, the Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee who is leading the impeachment, gave his approval to Soleimani’s murder when he tweeted that Suleimani “was responsible for unthinkable violence and world is better off without him.”
Israel is the main culprit in this crime.
Soleimani himself bears responsibility.
The Russian government also bears responsibility.
Iran’s response was predictable and unfortunate.
Iran declared it will take revenge, and most likely will.
Iran’s revenge will give Israel the war it wants between the US and Iran.
Iran would have done better to take its revenge and deny responsibility.
#25. To: nolu chan (#24)
Dropping a load of thermo-nuclear bombs on and over Iran sends them back into the stone age. Iran glows in the dark for thousands of years. Iran has no future.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#26. To: Deckard (#25)
[Idiot writer] It is impossible for an act of war against Iran to deter future Iranian attack plans.
Another Lindsey Graham/John McCain clone cheering for WWIII.
Every fucking war has been based on lies - why would you think this time is different? Oh, right - Trump's in charge.
The United States has not formally declared war since the Second World War. The four Geneva Conventions adopted in 1949 for the protection of war victims are triggered by the existence of actual armed conflict regardless of war declarations. According to Article 2, common to all four Conventions, the Conventions apply in
all cases of declared war or of any other armed conflict which may arise between two or more of the High Contracting Parties, even if the state of war is not recognized by one of them.
Oh, right - Trump's in charge.
Haven't you clowns learned anything from the debacles in Iraq and Afghanistan?
#27. To: nolu chan (#26)
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You would have sat back and sent the troops marching up the mountains to fight hand to hand, in the true spirit of a fair fight.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#28. To: nolu chan (#24)
#29. To: Deckard (#27)
[Deckard #25] Eat a buffet of dicks.
[Deckard #27] I served in the military you GD cocksucker.
[Deckard #25] Another Lindsey Graham/John McCain clone cheering for WWIII.
[Deckard #27] Fuck you and the other chickenhawks like "bonespur" Trump.
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