Jorge Arbusto's fault... He's the one who downsized & outsourced our industrial infrastructury that is now produced more "efficiently" in Third World shitholes...
Trump is 20 years too late, we should've elected Ross Perot when we had the chance...
But I don't give a shit anymore.... I'm probably gonna croak sometime within the next 3~4 years anyway...
Fuck all them idiots that did this... They fuckin' ruined this whole goddam planet for everybody...
Too many goddam people, too much goddam garbage & trash... plastics, pesticides, fertilizer runnoff, flushed pharmaceuticals... Gonna all disrupt the global foodchain, drug-resistant diseases running rampant worldwide....
There's no avoiding it... I just hope I croak from old age before it hits
I see no reason to focus on Paul Singer, even though he may be the worst of his ilk...
But that's how they did it during Arbusto's reign.... Mitt Romney & Bain Capital were no different...
Fuck 'em all... And Fuck Tump too.... he can't bring any of that stuff back no matter what he does... He's just a fucking conartist & grifter who's taking advantage of poor gullible fools who think there's still hope.....
Ok, that explains a little. Thanks. I'm doing what I can for my progeny. Not sure what or if. I have this feeling for my country, but I'm not sure if it is any different than family, in both cases there's some dumbasses that I'd like to choke.
Mitt Romney & Bain Capital were no different.
Yep, same moral arrogance.
I'm not sure about Trump. We'll see. My understanding is that it's a nationalist (Trump, Netanyahoo) vs. globalist. The next 6 months will reveal a lot.
And yeah, there's no bringing the past back in terms or economic functions, but there may be a decent uprising (again) of the common man. Tulsi Gabbard is the only person on stage that I see with a glimmer of understanding.
Tulsi is a mass murderer. She supports killing American children. She wants to end oil production. She doesn't want us to fight back against terrorists. She is a piece of shit.
Endorsed Endorsed by EMILY's list for pro-choice Democratic women. (Aug 2012)
Yep, she's a politician running for office on the Democrat slate from an overwhelmingly Democrat part of the country.
Like it or not, abortion is the Establishment's policy and it was put in place by Republicans. It will be there until the population declines precipitously. Most young women support it because they don't want as many children as modern medicine allows to survive.
Although I understand the concerns of the pro-abort crowd, I continue to oppose abortion on a moral basis, as it is a crude and vicious form of birth control that corrodes the emotional well being of the people.
When I watch her I see a good hearted woman who is also intelligent and seeks the truth of matters. She may not always be right (re: agree with me), but she is not deliberately corrupt. That alone is worth support.
Finally, her adoption of the mono-theistic (and Christian-like) branch of the Hindu religion is far more acceptable than the anti-Christian Jewish swamp we live with now.
I also hate that Catholics are liars like you just did. Catholics hold the majority in the Supreme Court they can end it today. But you dumb Catholics are like Lucy and the football with Charlie Brown. Lukewarm is what you are. An excuse maker for satan's democrats.
Put in place by Republicans. Sorry for calling you a liar but that isn't really true.
Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973)
Opinion of the Court 7-2; 5D, 2R
Blackmun (R) delivered the Opinion of the court joined by 6 more. Burger (R) Marshall (D) Powell (D) Douglas (D) filed a concurring opinion. Brennan (D) filed a concurring opinion. Stewart (R) filed a concurring opinion.
Dissenting justices: 1D, 1R
White (D) filed a dissenting opinion, in which Rehnquist joined. Rehnquist (R) filed a dissenting opinion.
The Court contained 6 nominees by Republican presidents Eisenhower, Nixon and Reagan.
It contained 3 nominees by Democrat presidents FDR, JFK, and LBJ.
Justice Powell was a Democrat nominated by Republican Nixon.
Justice Brennan was a Democrat nominated by Republican Eisenhower.
The Court contained 5 Democrat justices and 4 Republican justices.
So, we're going to count judges nominated by Republican Presidents as "Democrat" judges?
Well then, given that the Supreme Court has been continuously controlled by Republican nominees since Nixon, please tell us the date after which the Republican nominees were nominally Republican. I believe that occurred under Reagan.
O'Connor, Kennedy, Souter, Roberts - these are Republican nominees who are nominally Republican. And they've provided the bulwark to prevent the Republican majority Court from overturning Roe.
So, we're going to count judges nominated by Republican Presidents as "Democrat" judges?
No, I advocated for no such conclusion. I only reposted my years old recitation of the party of the justices and the presidents who nominated them.
I find the entire argument absurd. Lo these many years, I have never found the abortion clause of the Constitution. I do not find it to be a constitutional matter at all.
Whether a judge is a Catholic, Protestant, Jew or other, he or she should decide based on United States law, not some personal perception of God's law. Finding something morally repugnant or acceptable does nothing to determine it to be either constitutional or unconstitutional.
The first law citing murder was in 1790 and only applied to places under the sole and exclusive jurisdiction of the United States. Murder elsewhere was not a Federal matter. Even if abortion were considered infanticide, it would not have been a crime against the United States.
SEC. 3. And be it [further] enacted, That if any person or persons shall, within any fort, arsenal, dock-yard, magazine, or in any other place or district of country, under the sole and exclusive jurisdiction of the United States, commit the crime of wilful murder, such person or persons on being thereof convicted shall suffer death.
The argument over Roe proceeds from the false choice of Roe, or a reversal of Roe prohibiting all abortion. I believe it should be a matter of state jurisdiction. Roe should be overturned for lack of jurisdiction, and the matter returned to the States.
Whether a judge is Dem or GOP should not determine how he rules. Jonathan Turley just proved that it is possible for a Democrat attorney to interpret the law independent of the general political leanings of his party.
At the time of Roe, it was entirely possible for a conservative Southern Democrat to be much more conservative than what was then a moderate Northeastern moderate Republican. A party indicator from nearly 50 years ago provides no indicator of that justice's legal leanings. Even a current party indicator does not identify how one would interpret the Constitution.
The party indicator of the nominating official provides less than nothing.
Should states be allowed to make it legal to murder adults or just innocent never hurt anyone babies?
Where should the power lie?
Should the Supreme Court have the power to make it legal to murder adults or anyone's babies?
Should the Supreme Court have such power in the absence of any decision by the Federal political branch (the Legislature) in the form of a law? There was no Federal law at issue in Roe. No Federal law prevented a State from banning abortion. Roe relied on constitutional interpretation to strike down a Texas State law. In doing so, it made that interpretation applicable to all the States, striking down all conflicting State law.
Remember, vesting such power in the Supreme Court can, and did, result in Roe v. Wade, striking down all laws contrary to that vision of the Constitution.
Remember, vesting such power in the Supreme Court can, and did, result in Roe v. Wade, striking down all laws contrary to that vision of the Constitution.
No one vested such power in the Supreme court. They usurped it in Marbury vs Madison.
But you didn't answer the question.
You seem to be ok with allowing states to determine if you can murder a child.
So I will ask again. Should states be allowed to pass laws making it lawful to kill adults?
Remember, vesting such power in the Supreme Court can, and did, result in Roe v. Wade, striking down all laws contrary to that vision of the Constitution.
No one vested such power in the Supreme court. They usurped it in Marbury vs Madison.
But you didn't answer the question.
You seem to be ok with allowing states to determine if you can murder a child.
So I will ask again. Should states be allowed to pass laws making it lawful to kill adults?
Why ok for babies but not adults?
Yours is an inapplicable question and I will walk you through why that is so.
10th Amendment
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
ALL power resides in either:
The United States, or
The States, or
The people
Unless you strike down the Constitution, those are your three choices for who has the power to decide whether abortion is constitutional or unconstitutional, lawful or unlawful.
Either the Federal government or the States must be empowered to decide whether to prohibit abortion, or it is left to the people to decide. You must pick one, and only one.
If you choose the Federal government, then you choose to
permit the Congress to pass a law making abortion a crime, or prohibiting States from making abortion a crime, or
permit the Supreme Court to preempt Congress and all States by issuing an opinion based on an interpretation of the Constitution
do nothing, leaving it to the States
If you choose the States, then you choose to
empower the State government to pass a law making abortion a crime
do nothing, leaving it to the people
If you choose the People, then you choose to
render all abortion legal until the People exercise their sovereign power to amend the Constitution to state, for example, "Abortion is a felony punishable by death."
Nothing is murder, or any crime at all, until there is a law stating that it is murder or a crime. It is an absolute fact that abortion, at this time, is not murder.
Whoever is empowered is empowered to decide abortion is a crime by passing a law so stating. Should they not pass such a law, then abortion is not a crime within that jurisdiction. Whoever is empowered is empowered to pass a law making interference with lawful abortion a crime, or to regulate abortion in the manner of its choosing.
As you seem to support Federal jurisdiction, where the power now resides, States cannot decide whether to make abortion a crime.
So I will ask again. Should states be allowed to pass laws making it lawful to kill adults?
Why ok for babies but not adults?
The inapplicability of your question is shown by the fact that States have no power to declare abortion lawful or unlawful. The Federal government has declared that it is empowered to decide the matter and it has decided it by declaring to all 50 States that abortion is not unlawful, much less murder, and that it is a constitutional right.
Everything is legal unless there is a law stating it is illegal. Whoever is empowered makes something legal by doing nothing. They make something lawful by not passing a law making it unlawful.
No one vested such power in the Supreme court. They usurped it in Marbury vs Madison.
As a matter of law, you are simply wrong about Marbury. However, assume arguendo that you are correct.
You appear perfectly happy to support an activist Supreme Court deciding the legality of abortion, just as long as the majority agrees with you in exercising jurisdiction you alternately appear to deny exists.
Marbury actually resolved whether the Federal courts could strike down a Federal law as repugnant to the Constitution. In Roe, there was no Federal law involved. Had there been an inconsistent Federal law, the Federal law would have prevailed pursuant to Article 6.
This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.
It is an absolute fact that abortion, at this time, is not murder.
The birth control pill is, in effect, abortion. Most folks just don't understand how it works -- how it prevents a fertilized egg from implanting in the womb.
And the subject of abortion will be moot in the context of...
Abortion is not murder. It is not any crime. Aborting a zygote will not be murder.
Noun: crime krIm 1. (criminal law) an act punishable by law; usually considered an evil act 2. An evil act not necessarily punishable by law
Noun: zygote zIgowt A zygote is a diploid cell resulting from the union of a haploid spermatozoon and ovum (including the organism that develops from that cell).
You and your buddy like to dehumanize people you want to beat, imprison, or kill, yet that organism is a human being by definition, and completely innocent. Killing a human being is homicide, which may rise to murder if there is premeditation and demonstrated intent, and there is no self-defense or in defense of anothers' life or great bodily harm.
The fact that there is no law at this time that punishes this particular homicide doesn't mean it isn't a crime. Our founding documents cover the sanctity of life, starting with George Mason:
A Declaration of Rights
Is made by the representatives of the good people of Virginia, assembled in full and free convention which rights do pertain to them and their posterity, as the basis and foundation of government.
Section 1. That all men are by nature equally free and independent and have certain inherent rights, of which, when they enter into a state of society, they cannot, by any compact, deprive or divest their posterity; namely, the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and possessing property, and pursuing and obtaining happiness and safety.
Which Jefferson drew from when he authored the DoI. Moreover, these phrases were drawn on by abolitionists in the decades following to condemn slavery. They are equally applicable to abortion.
Abortion is not murder. It is not any crime. Aborting a zygote will not be murder.
Noun: crime krIm 1. (criminal law) an act punishable by law; usually considered an evil act 2. An evil act not necessarily punishable by law
Noun: zygote zIgowt A zygote is a diploid cell resulting from the union of a haploid spermatozoon and ovum (including the organism that develops from that cell).
Abortion cannot be a criminal act while it is a constitutional right.
Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113, 153 (1973)
This right of privacy, whether it be founded in the Fourteenth Amendment's concept of personal liberty and restrictions upon state action, as we feel it is, or, as the District Court determined, in the Ninth Amendment's reservation of rights to the people, is broad enough to encompass a woman's decision whether or not to terminate her pregnancy.
You may disagree with Roe, but it is the law. Any law inconsistent with Roe is unconstitutional, null and void. No State may criminalize abortion.
Try using a real law dictionary.
Black's Law Dictionary, 6th Ed
Crime. A positive or negative act in violation of penal law; an offense against the State or United States.
"Crime” and "misdemeanor”, properly speaking, are synonymous terms; though in common usage "crime” is made to denote such offenses as are of a more serious nature. In general, violation of an ordinance is not a crime.
A crime may be defined to be any act done in violation of those duties which an individual owes to the community, and for the breach of which the law has provided that the offender shall make satisfaction to the public. A crime or public offense is an act committed or omitted in violation of a law forbidding or commanding it, and to which is annexed, upon conviction, either, or a combination, of the following punishments: (1) death; (2) imprisonment; (3) fine; (4) removal from office; or (5) disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust, or profit. While many crimes have their origin at common law, most have been created by statute; and, in many states, such have been codified. In addition, there are both state and federal crimes (as to the latter, see Title 18, U.S.C.A.).
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Quasi crimes. This term embraces all offenses not crimes or misdemeanors, but that are in the nature of crimes. A class of offenses against the public which have not been declared crimes, but wrongs against the general or local public which it is proper should be repressed or punished by forfeitures and penalties. This would embrace all qui tarn actions and forfeitures imposed for the neglect or violation of a public duty. A quasi crime would not embrace an indictable offense, whatever might be its grade, but simply forfeitures for a wrong done to the public, whether voluntary or involuntary, where a penalty is given, whether recoverable by criminal or civil process. Also, offenses for which some person other than the actual perpetrator is responsible, the perpetrator being presumed to act by command of the responsible party. Sometimes, injuries which have been unintentionally caused. D.W.I. (driving while intoxicated) offenses are sometimes classified as quasi crimes.
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The fact that there is no law at this time that punishes this particular homicide doesn't mean it isn't a crime.
Yeah, it does. One cannot be charged with a crime that does not exist. I can say you are guilty of mopery, but you cannot be charged and convicted.
Our founding documents cover the sanctity of life, starting with George Mason
Geroge Mason's Declaration of Rights and Thomas Jefferson's Declaration of Independence are no part of United States law. Thomas Jefferson wrote All men are created equal while being tended to by his slave Jupiter. When Jefferson went to France, he was accompanied by his slave Sally Hemings, who was the half-sister of his wife. TJ father about six kids withy Sally and started a whole branch of the Jefferson family tree. A load of jefferson DNA was discovered in that tree.
