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Title: They Live, We Sleep: Beware the Growing Evil in Our Midst
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The Rutherford Institute
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Published: Oct 28, 2019
Author: John Whitehead
Post Date: 2019-10-29 13:05:59 by Deckard
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We’re living in two worlds, you and I. There’s the world we see (or are made to see) and then there’s the one we sense (and occasionally catch a glimpse of), the latter of which is a far cry from the propaganda-driven reality manufactured by the government and its corporate sponsors, including the media. Indeed, what most Americans perceive as life in America—privileged, progressive and free—is a far cry from reality, where economic inequality is growing, real agendas and real power are buried beneath layers of Orwellian doublespeak and corporate obfuscation, and “freedom,” such that it is, is meted out in small, legalistic doses by militarized police armed to the teeth. All is not as it seems. This is the premise of John Carpenter’s film They Live, which was released more than 30 years ago, and remains unnervingly, chillingly appropriate for our modern age. Best known for his horror film Halloween, which assumes that there is a form of evil so dark that it can’t be killed, Carpenter’s larger body of work is infused with a strong anti-authoritarian, anti-establishment, laconic bent that speaks to the filmmaker’s concerns about the unraveling of our society, particularly our government. Time and again, Carpenter portrays the government working against its own citizens, a populace out of touch with reality, technology run amok, and a future more horrific than any horror film. In Escape from New York, Carpenter presents fascism as the future of America. In The Thing, a remake of the 1951 sci-fi classic of the same name, Carpenter presupposes that increasingly we are all becoming dehumanized. In Christine, the film adaptation of Stephen King’s novel about a demon-possessed car, technology exhibits a will and consciousness of its own and goes on a murderous rampage. In In the Mouth of Madness, Carpenter notes that evil grows when people lose “the ability to know the difference between reality and fantasy.” And then there is Carpenter’s They Live, in which two migrant workers discover that the world is not as it seems. In fact, the population is actually being controlled and exploited by aliens working in partnership with an oligarchic elite. All the while, the populace—blissfully unaware of the real agenda at work in their lives—has been lulled into complacency, indoctrinated into compliance, bombarded with media distractions, and hypnotized by subliminal messages beamed out of television and various electronic devices, billboards and the like. It is only when homeless drifter John Nada (played to the hilt by the late Roddy Piper) discovers a pair of doctored sunglasses—Hoffman lenses—that Nada sees what lies beneath the elite’s fabricated reality: control and bondage. When viewed through the lens of truth, the elite, who appear human until stripped of their disguises, are shown to be monsters who have enslaved the citizenry in order to prey on them. Likewise, billboards blare out hidden, authoritative messages: a bikini-clad woman in one ad is actually ordering viewers to “MARRY AND REPRODUCE.” Magazine racks scream “CONSUME” and “OBEY.” A wad of dollar bills in a vendor’s hand proclaims, “THIS IS YOUR GOD.” When viewed through Nada’s Hoffman lenses, some of the other hidden messages being drummed into the people’s subconscious include: NO INDEPENDENT THOUGHT, CONFORM, SUBMIT, STAY ASLEEP, BUY, WATCH TV, NO IMAGINATION, and DO NOT QUESTION AUTHORITY. This indoctrination campaign engineered by the elite in They Live is painfully familiar to anyone who has studied the decline of American culture. A citizenry that does not think for themselves, obeys without question, is submissive, does not challenge authority, does not think outside the box, and is content to sit back and be entertained is a citizenry that can be easily controlled. In this way, the subtle message of They Live provides an apt analogy of our own distorted vision of life in the American police state, what philosopher Slavoj Žižek refers to as dictatorship in democracy, “the invisible order which sustains your apparent freedom.” We’re being fed a series of carefully contrived fictions that bear no resemblance to reality. The powers-that-be want us to feel threatened by forces beyond our control (terrorists, shooters, bombers). They want us afraid and dependent on the government and its militarized armies for our safety and well-being. They want us distrustful of each other, divided by our prejudices, and at each other’s throats. Most of all, they want us to continue to march in lockstep with their dictates. Tune out the government’s attempts to distract, divert and befuddle us and tune into what’s really going on in this country, and you’ll run headlong into an unmistakable, unpalatable truth: the moneyed elite who rule us view us as expendable resources to be used, abused and discarded. In fact, a study conducted by Princeton and Northwestern University concluded that the U.S. government does not represent the majority of American citizens. Instead, the study found that the government is ruled by the rich and powerful, or the so-called “economic elite.” Moreover, the researchers concluded that policies enacted by this governmental elite nearly always favor special interests and lobbying groups. In other words, we are being ruled by an oligarchy disguised as a democracy, and arguably on our way towards fascism—a form of government where private corporate interests rule, money calls the shots, and the people are seen as mere subjects to be controlled. Not only do you have to be rich—or beholden to the rich—to get elected these days, but getting elected is also a surefire way to get rich. As CBS News reports, “Once in office, members of Congress enjoy access to connections and information they can use to increase their wealth, in ways that are unparalleled in the private sector. And once politicians leave office, their connections allow them to profit even further.” In denouncing this blatant corruption of America’s political system, former president Jimmy Carter blasted the process of getting elected—to the White House, governor’s mansion, Congress or state legislatures—as “unlimited political bribery… a subversion of our political system as a payoff to major contributors, who want and expect, and sometimes get, favors for themselves after the election is over.” Rest assured that when and if fascism finally takes hold in America, the basic forms of government will remain: Fascism will appear to be friendly. The legislators will be in session. There will be elections, and the news media will continue to cover the entertainment and political trivia. Consent of the governed, however, will no longer apply. Actual control will have finally passed to the oligarchic elite controlling the government behind the scenes. Sound familiar? Clearly, we are now ruled by an oligarchic elite of governmental and corporate interests. We have moved into “corporatism” (favored by Benito Mussolini), which is a halfway point on the road to full-blown fascism. Corporatism is where the few moneyed interests—not elected by the citizenry—rule over the many. In this way, it is not a democracy or a republican form of government, which is what the American government was established to be. It is a top-down form of government and one which has a terrifying history typified by the developments that occurred in totalitarian regimes of the past: police states where everyone is watched and spied on, rounded up for minor infractions by government agents, placed under police control, and placed in detention (a.k.a. concentration) camps. For the final hammer of fascism to fall, it will require the most crucial ingredient: the majority of the people will have to agree that it’s not only expedient but necessary. But why would a people agree to such an oppressive regime? The answer is the same in every age: fear. Fear is the method most often used by politicians to increase the power of government. And, as most social commentators recognize, an atmosphere of fear permeates modern America: fear of terrorism, fear of the police, fear of our neighbors and so on. The propaganda of fear has been used quite effectively by those who want to gain control, and it is working on the American populace. Despite the fact that we are 17,600 times more likely to die from heart disease than from a terrorist attack; 11,000 times more likely to die from an airplane accident than from a terrorist plot involving an airplane; 1,048 times more likely to die from a car accident than a terrorist attack, and 8 times more likely to be killed by a police officer than by a terrorist , we have handed over control of our lives to government officials who treat us as a means to an end—the source of money and power. As the Bearded Man in They Live warns, “They are dismantling the sleeping middle class. More and more people are becoming poor. We are their cattle. We are being bred for slavery.” In this regard, we’re not so different from the oppressed citizens in They Live. From the moment we are born until we die, we are indoctrinated into believing that those who rule us do it for our own good. The truth is far different. Despite the truth staring us in the face, we have allowed ourselves to become fearful, controlled, pacified zombies. We live in a perpetual state of denial, insulated from the painful reality of the American police state by wall-to-wall entertainment news and screen devices. Most everyone keeps their heads down these days while staring zombie-like into an electronic screen, even when they’re crossing the street. Families sit in restaurants with their heads down, separated by their screen devices and unaware of what’s going on around them. Young people especially seem dominated by the devices they hold in their hands, oblivious to the fact that they can simply push a button, turn the thing off and walk away. Indeed, there is no larger group activity than that connected with those who watch screens—that is, television, lap tops, personal computers, cell phones and so on. In fact, a Nielsen study reports that American screen viewing is at an all-time high. For example, the average American watches approximately 151 hours of television per month. The question, of course, is what effect does such screen consumption have on one’s mind? Psychologically it is similar to drug addiction. Researchers found that “almost immediately after turning on the TV, subjects reported feeling more relaxed, and because this occurs so quickly and the tension returns so rapidly after the TV is turned off, people are conditioned to associate TV viewing with a lack of tension.” Research also shows that regardless of the programming, viewers’ brain waves slow down, thus transforming them into a more passive, nonresistant state. Historically, television has been used by those in authority to quiet discontent and pacify disruptive people. “Faced with severe overcrowding and limited budgets for rehabilitation and counseling, more and more prison officials are using TV to keep inmates quiet,” according to Newsweek. Given that the majority of what Americans watch on television is provided through channels controlled by six mega corporations, what we watch is now controlled by a corporate elite and, if that elite needs to foster a particular viewpoint or pacify its viewers, it can do so on a large scale. If we’re watching, we’re not doing. The powers-that-be understand this. As television journalist Edward R. Murrow warned in a 1958 speech: We are currently wealthy, fat, comfortable and complacent. We have currently a built-in allergy to unpleasant or disturbing information. Our mass media reflect this. But unless we get up off our fat surpluses and recognize that television in the main is being used to distract, delude, amuse, and insulate us, then television and those who finance it, those who look at it, and those who work at it, may see a totally different picture too late. This brings me back to They Live, in which the real zombies are not the aliens calling the shots but the populace who are content to remain controlled. When all is said and done, the world of They Live is not so different from our own. As one of the characters points out, “The poor and the underclass are growing. Racial justice and human rights are nonexistent. They have created a repressive society and we are their unwitting accomplices. Their intention to rule rests with the annihilation of consciousness. We have been lulled into a trance. They have made us indifferent to ourselves, to others. We are focused only on our own gain.” We, too, are focused only on our own pleasures, prejudices and gains. Our poor and underclasses are also growing. Racial injustice is growing. Human rights is nearly nonexistent. We too have been lulled into a trance, indifferent to others. Oblivious to what lies ahead, we’ve been manipulated into believing that if we continue to consume, obey, and have faith, things will work out. But that’s never been true of emerging regimes. And by the time we feel the hammer coming down upon us, it will be too late. So where does that leave us? The characters who populate Carpenter’s films provide some insight. Underneath their machismo, they still believe in the ideals of liberty and equal opportunity. Their beliefs place them in constant opposition with the law and the establishment, but they are nonetheless freedom fighters. When, for example, John Nada destroys the alien hyno-transmitter in They Live, he restores hope by delivering America a wake-up call for freedom. That’s the key right there: we need to wake up. Stop allowing yourselves to be easily distracted by pointless political spectacles and pay attention to what’s really going on in the country. The real battle for control of this nation is not being waged between Republicans and Democrats in the ballot box. As I make clear in my book Battlefield America: The War on the American People, the real battle for control of this nation is taking place on roadsides, in police cars, on witness stands, over phone lines, in government offices, in corporate offices, in public school hallways and classrooms, in parks and city council meetings, and in towns and cities across this country. The real battle between freedom and tyranny is taking place right in front of our eyes, if we would only open them. All the trappings of the American police state are now in plain sight. Wake up, America. If they live (the tyrants, the oppressors, the invaders, the overlords), it is only because “we the people” sleep.
“You see them on the street. You watch them on TV. You might even vote for one this fall. You think they’re people just like you. You’re wrong. Dead wrong.” — They Live
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#1. To: Deckard (#0)
Ok. Wide awake. We have a runaway budget deficit and growing wealth inequality because we have undertaxed the rich, relative to everybody else, and overregulated the society. So, we need to make peace with Russia, to reduce the cost of the military. And we need to tax wealth, to ensure everybody is paying the same levels of taxation in terms of total wealth. And we need to deregulate private life. Once those three things are done, we will be on the mend as a nation.
So everything will be great once Big Stupid Greedy Government steals even more from us than it steals now? Where the hell is the precedent for that? BSGG has always stolen more and more - are things better?
It is not possible to maintain the rigged system we have now, in which the middle and working classes pay a much greater proportion of their wealth over to taxes than the very wealthy do. It is that inversion that is unfair, and ultimately unsustainable. We've created a nobles-and- peasants society by doing that, and the situation of the peasants is getting harder and harder, while the situation of the nobles is made progressively easier. It is still possible to land this plane peacefully, by imposing the same burdens on the top that are imposed on the middle 70%. The current system is not sustainable, because of the growing wealth disparity. Eventually that will lead to a social rupture, and such ruptures across history have been dramatic and bloody. They are also foreseeable. And avoidable. The rich need to have the same deal as the middle. Not a better one.
Big Stupid Greedy Government spending needs to stop being a one-way ratchet. I realize this won't happen until after the collapse, but it ought to be done.
I realize this won't happen until after the collapse, but it ought to be done. What shall we give up, then? If there is no cashflow, there will be no government spending. So, what shall we cut? National defense? Scrap the army and the Navy? NASA? Space exploration is just a luxury. The Smithsonian Institution, the various National Parks and National Monuments? Only a fraction of the population gets to use any of them, and they have large staffs. Alternatively, we could leave the parks open, and just have no rangers there. The Federal Marshals, Federal Prisons and Secret Service, along with the ATF? Law enforcement is expensive. We can save a lot of money if we leave the matter of rectifying wrongs up to individuals. Public education? The interstate highway system? Airports and seaports? (They're all constructed with federal money.) Social Security? Medicare? Unemployment Insurance? The Border Patrol? The Federal Prison system? No cash, means no government spending, which means all of the above need to go. We just govern ourselves, and carry guns individually to enforce whatever point we need to reinforce. The FDA? Starve the government to death: no cash. Shut it all down. Leave 100% of all money to the individuals who earn it. Of course, who owns the land itself needs to be kept track of, but maybe we don't need official government records to keep track of that?
If there is no cashflow, there will be no government spending. So, what shall we cut? National defense? Scrap the army and the Navy? cut 10 percent across the board. Or at least go with Rand Pauls 2 percent reduction in spending. Or the penny plan a spending freeze unless offset by other cuts 1 percent this year another percent next year. Etc until balanced and paying down debt. You should read the Bible and Gods economic plan that says debt makes you a slave. You want to spend beyond our means. You're a head case. A likable head case but still a head case.
In the Bible there is periodical cancellation of all debts and return of lost property.
I'm ok with that.
I'm ok with that. You might want to rethink that after watching this. NESARA (National Economic Security and Recovery Act) the debt forgiveness plan already on the books will be the Mark of The Beast. Changes will begin in the United States. These are just a few of the reforms NESARA will bring: For more on the history of NESARA and how it will change the world, go to: http://2013rainbowroundtable.ning.com/page/history-of-nesara-1 ***** Looks pretty good, right? The catch is that once all of your debt is cancelled, the world will go on a cashless system. Basically if you accept that, you are accepting the mark of the beast. More on NESARA: NESARA announcements expected in 2019 When the NESARA announcements are made, the US President and Vice President and all the officials in their administration will be removed from office with immediate effect. So will all members of the US Congress and their Khazar Zionist bosses. Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. We're talking about a year of Jubilee not the nonsense you posted. It's not going to happen don't worry about it.
Yeah, just nonsense. Do you really think that TPTB are going to issue a one-year Jubilee, which is a a biblical event? I would advise you as a Christian not to fall for any legislation that will cancel all your debt. NESARA is real, and it is the mark of the beast.
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. One of my favorite movies. Still holds up today.
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. Yes, the Bible, on economics: (!) The wealthy with the wealth available MUST lend money to their poor countryman, when asked. (2) The lender of money to a poor countryman can never charge him interest. (3) In the seventh year, unpaid balances are dropped and forgotten. (4) No countryman can be imprisoned or enslaved for debt. (5) Every countryman has a birthright to a piece of farmland, for free, which can NEVER be taken from him - not in payment of debt, not in punishment for crime - not for ANY REASON. He can lease out the land, but in the Jubilee year, the land always reverts to the man or his heirs, if he is dead. (6) Ten percent of all produce, plus the ENTIRE first fruits harvest of the land, and the first fruits of each tree and animal, must be given to the Levites for distribution to the poor, and to feed the Levites themselves. (7) Every seventh year is a sabbath of the land. Crops may not be planted and there is no formal harvest: all of the food that grows in the field is the property of the poor. (8) No tresspassing law: the poor can always walk through the fields and pluck food to eat, without payment. The poor are not allowed to collect food in baskets and transport elsewhere, but the poor have the absolute right to enter any farmer's field and eat directly, without payment - for the crop is a gift from God to the community, and NOT the sole property of the farmer, not ever. (9) The farmer, at harvest, may only go through the field and harvest ONCE. Any late blooming crops, and any gleanings missed in the harvest or dropped in the harvest, belong to the poor, who have the right, then, to gather them up. It is a crime for the farmer to go and gather the gleanings, for the gleanings belong to the poor. So yes, let's DO read the Bible, shall we? And apply it's economic laws - especially the hard, involuntary laws regarding food, harvests, and the mandatory lending without interest, and mandatory debt forgiveness. What would that look like in America? The wealthy would not have stock portfolios and large bank accounts, because their poor countrymen would have lined up to request loans, which the rich are required by God to give, without interest. Most of that money would be paid back, but billions would not be. Nobody would have a mortgage: their primary homes would be deeded to them for free. All of the signs at the California citrus orchards which warn people not to trespass and that they will be prosecuted for picking up the fallen fruit, would be taken down: people have the right to trespass and pick up the fallen fruit. Etc. Now, I don't actually advocate applying the full law of Torah to America. For one thing, I live in New England and I love oysters, clams, mussels, crabs and lobsters, right out of the sea. I like bacon too. So the kosher laws are not acceptable. Nor am I willing to stone adulterers and adulteresses, nor to kill homosexuals. Nor am I at all willing to allow "witches" to be executed. Time was, here in New England, we rather infamously did just that. Not good. I'm not willing to execute children who are disrespectful to their parents. I'm not willing to compel circumcision. There's a great deal in God's law for Israel that I'm not at all willing to permit to be imposed on me. That said, there is wisdom in God's Law in the Torah: he was getting at something, and seeing what he did lets one understand what it was. Economically, God was relentlessly worried about the poor, and about the domination of the poor by the wealthy. So he designed an economic order that would prevent the permanent formation of an underclass. One formed anyway, in ancient Israel, because the Hebrews did not obey the law. And so we see prophet after prophet, e.g.: Amos, focusing on exactly these issues. If you're going to cite the Bible, yes, let's DO look there. God said a lot about poverty relief, and none of it was voluntary.
Quit pulling bullshit out of your ass. You can't quote scripture because you don't like scripture. It is your enemy. You are afraid of the truth.
You're full of it shit because you don't believe scripture. You just throw most of Gods holy word in the garbage. But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the Lord thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee: 16 Cursed shalt thou be in the city, and cursed shalt thou be in the field. 17 Cursed shall be thy basket and thy store. 18 Cursed shall be the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy land, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep. 19 Cursed shalt thou be when thou comest in, and cursed shalt thou be when thou goest out. 20 The Lord shall send upon thee cursing, vexation, and rebuke, in all that thou settest thine hand unto for to do, until thou be destroyed, and until thou perish quickly; because of the wickedness of thy doings, whereby thou hast forsaken me. 21 The Lord shall make the pestilence cleave unto thee, until he have consumed thee from off the land, whither thou goest to possess it. 22 The Lord shall smite thee with a consumption, and with a fever, and with an inflammation, and with an extreme burning, and with the sword, and with blasting, and with mildew; and they shall pursue thee until thou perish. 23 And thy heaven that is over thy head shall be brass, and the earth that is under thee shall be iron. 24 The Lord shall make the rain of thy land powder and dust: from heaven shall it come down upon thee, until thou be destroyed. 25 The Lord shall cause thee to be smitten before thine enemies: thou shalt go out one way against them, and flee seven ways before them: and shalt be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth. 26 And thy carcase shall be meat unto all fowls of the air, and unto the beasts of the earth, and no man shall fray them away. 27 The Lord will smite thee with the botch of Egypt, and with the emerods, and with the scab, and with the itch, whereof thou canst not be healed. 28 The Lord shall smite thee with madness, and blindness, and astonishment of heart: 29 And thou shalt grope at noonday, as the blind gropeth in darkness, and thou shalt not prosper in thy ways: and thou shalt be only oppressed and spoiled evermore, and no man shall save thee. 30 Thou shalt betroth a wife, and another man shall lie with her: thou shalt build an house, and thou shalt not dwell therein: thou shalt plant a vineyard, and shalt not gather the grapes thereof. 31 Thine ox shall be slain before thine eyes, and thou shalt not eat thereof: thine ass shall be violently taken away from before thy face, and shall not be restored to thee: thy sheep shall be given unto thine enemies, and thou shalt have none to rescue them. 32 Thy sons and thy daughters shall be given unto another people, and thine eyes shall look, and fail with longing for them all the day long; and there shall be no might in thine hand. 33 The fruit of thy land, and all thy labours, shall a nation which thou knowest not eat up; and thou shalt be only oppressed and crushed alway: 34 So that thou shalt be mad for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see. 35 The Lord shall smite thee in the knees, and in the legs, with a sore botch that cannot be healed, from the sole of thy foot unto the top of thy head. 36 The Lord shall bring thee, and thy king which thou shalt set over thee, unto a nation which neither thou nor thy fathers have known; and there shalt thou serve other gods, wood and stone. 37 And thou shalt become an astonishment, a proverb, and a byword, among all nations whither the Lord shall lead thee. 38 Thou shalt carry much seed out into the field, and shalt gather but little in; for the locust shall consume it. 39 Thou shalt plant vineyards, and dress them, but shalt neither drink of the wine, nor gather the grapes; for the worms shall eat them. 40 Thou shalt have olive trees throughout all thy coasts, but thou shalt not anoint thyself with the oil; for thine olive shall cast his fruit. 41 Thou shalt beget sons and daughters, but thou shalt not enjoy them; for they shall go into captivity. 42 All thy trees and fruit of thy land shall the locust consume. 43 The stranger that is within thee shall get up above thee very high; and thou shalt come down very low. 44 He shall lend to thee, and thou shalt not lend to him: he shall be the head, and thou shalt be the tail. 45 Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of the Lord thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which he commanded thee: 46 And they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever. 47 Because thou servedst not the Lord thy God with joyfulness, and with gladness of heart, for the abundance of all things; 48 Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the Lord shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee. 49 The Lord shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand; 50 A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favour to the young: 51 And he shall eat the fruit of thy cattle, and the fruit of thy land, until thou be destroyed: which also shall not leave thee either corn, wine, or oil, or the increase of thy kine, or flocks of thy sheep, until he have destroyed thee. 52 And he shall besiege thee in all thy gates, until thy high and fenced walls come down, wherein thou trustedst, throughout all thy land: and he shall besiege thee in all thy gates throughout all thy land, which the Lord thy God hath given thee. 53 And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters, which the Lord thy God hath given thee, in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee: 54 So that the man that is tender among you, and very delicate, his eye shall be evil toward his brother, and toward the wife of his bosom, and toward the remnant of his children which he shall leave: 55 So that he will not give to any of them of the flesh of his children whom he shall eat: because he hath nothing left him in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee in all thy gates. 56 The tender and delicate woman among you, which would not adventure to set the sole of her foot upon the ground for delicateness and tenderness, her eye shall be evil toward the husband of her bosom, and toward her son, and toward her daughter, 57 And toward her young one that cometh out from between her feet, and toward her children which she shall bear: for she shall eat them for want of all things secretly in the siege and straitness, wherewith thine enemy shall distress thee in thy gates. 58 If thou wilt not observe to do all the words of this law that are written in this book, that thou mayest fear this glorious and fearful name, The Lord Thy God; 59 Then the Lord will make thy plagues wonderful, and the plagues of thy seed, even great plagues, and of long continuance, and sore sicknesses, and of long continuance. 60 Moreover he will bring upon thee all the diseases of Egypt, which thou wast afraid of; and they shall cleave unto thee. 61 Also every sickness, and every plague, which is not written in the book of this law, them will the Lord bring upon thee, until thou be destroyed. 62 And ye shall be left few in number, whereas ye were as the stars of heaven for multitude; because thou wouldest not obey the voice of the Lord thy God. 63 And it shall come to pass, that as the Lord rejoiced over you to do you good, and to multiply you; so the Lord will rejoice over you to destroy you, and to bring you to nought; and ye shall be plucked from off the land whither thou goest to possess it. 64 And the Lord shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone. 65 And among these nations shalt thou find no ease, neither shall the sole of thy foot have rest: but the Lord shall give thee there a trembling heart, and failing of eyes, and sorrow of mind: 66 And thy life shall hang in doubt before thee; and thou shalt fear day and night, and shalt have none assurance of thy life: 67 In the morning thou shalt say, Would God it were even! and at even thou shalt say, Would God it were morning! for the fear of thine heart wherewith thou shalt fear, and for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see. 68 And the Lord shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.
Are you lying or just dumb? That isn't scriptural. "always"
(!) The wealthy with the wealth available MUST lend money to their poor countryman, when asked. (2) The lender of money to a poor countryman can never charge him interest. (3) In the seventh year, unpaid balances are dropped and forgotten. (4) No countryman can be imprisoned or enslaved for debt. (5) Every countryman has a birthright to a piece of farmland, for free, which can NEVER be taken from him - not in payment of debt, not in punishment for crime - not for ANY REASON. He can lease out the land, but in the Jubilee year, the land always reverts to the man or his heirs, if he is dead. (6) Ten percent of all produce, plus the ENTIRE first fruits harvest of the land, and the first fruits of each tree and animal, must be given to the Levites for distribution to the poor, and to feed the Levites themselves. (7) Every seventh year is a sabbath of the land. Crops may not be planted and there is no formal harvest: all of the food that grows in the field is the property of the poor. (8) No tresspassing law: the poor can always walk through the fields and pluck food to eat, without payment. The poor are not allowed to collect food in baskets and transport elsewhere, but the poor have the absolute right to enter any farmer's field and eat directly, without payment - for the crop is a gift from God to the community, and NOT the sole property of the farmer, not ever. (9) The farmer, at harvest, may only go through the field and harvest ONCE. Any late blooming crops, and any gleanings missed in the harvest or dropped in the harvest, belong to the poor, who have the right, then, to gather them up. It is a crime for the farmer to go and gather the gleanings, for the gleanings belong to the poor. That is not in red so you said it is not Gods word.
So, YOU don't eat shrimp, or shellfish? And you abstain from pork? And you and your wife abstained from sex during her "period of impurity". And you have done no work on the Sabbath? Those are among the laws to which the above litany of commandments given to Moses and the Hebrews apply. As you have not kept all of those laws, those curses will all be visited on YOUR head, just as the text you have quoted says. Right? No? Because that's the Law of Moses? Then why are you quoting curses at me regarding a law that you yourself do not keep? Because you're a hypocrite, that's why.
I see. So you're going to play childish games. Certainly I can go back to the Torah and pull out each of those laws, in red, and we would go from there. But I did that once for you. I gave you pages of red-letter verses that explained the economic structures of God's Israel. You ignored it then. Why should I bother with it now. You did just give a whole litany of red letter curses upon Israel for breaking the Torah law. You printed them there to announce all of the curses you would like to heap upon my head. Unfortunately, you don't keep that law either, so you are cursing yourself (or you WOULD BE, if the details of the Law given to Israel, and the curses, actually applied to Gentiles like you, and me) but they don't - God didn't bring you and me, or our ancestors, out of Egypt. Jesus, and God before him (to Moses), said that you can't add to the Law - so, you can't add to the Law a new list of people to whom the law applies. It applies to the people whom God brought out of Egypt to make a specific people, in the land of Canaan. Which is not you or me. Still, you quoted the imprecations and curses given on the mountaintop as Israel prepared to enter Canaan, so now you're stuck. Either you admit they don't apply to you because you're not an Israelite, OR you admit you're doomed under them, because you eat bacon and seafood and have not kept all of those commandments that God speaks of in the curses. But why do I even bother with you? The time for this discussion was before, when I gave you volumes of the words of God and you ignored them. You're going to do that again now - ignore my point in this post. So what is the purpose of having such a discussion.
Changes will begin in the United States. These are just a few of the reforms NESARA will bring: For more on the history of NESARA and how it will change the world, go to: http://2013rainbowroundtable.ning.com/page/history-of-nesara-1 AWESOME POST. Gentlemen, if you were to listen to and consider how this amazing young woman brilliantly de-constructs dynamics & events -- like the above bullet points. Pay particular attention NESARA Act (National Economic Security and Recovery Act); What is your respective opinion? True or a hoax? If confirmed, MIGHT it help explain the PTB/"Elites", recent major & minor paradigm-shattering events (including 911)? And why they and their enforcers, the Deep State, been sabotaging and undermining America as well as Trump?
#2. To: Vicomte13 (#1)
Once those three things are done, we will be on the mend as a nation.
#3. To: Hank Rearden (#2)
#4. To: Vicomte13 (#3)
Strangle the cashflow, starve it.
#5. To: Hank Rearden (#4)
Big Stupid Greedy Government spending needs to stop being a one-way ratchet. Strangle the cashflow, starve it.
#6. To: Vicomte13 (#5)
What shall we give up, then?
#7. To: A K A Stone (#6)
You should read the Bible and Gods economic plan that says debt makes you a slave.
#8. To: A Pole (#7)
#9. To: A K A Stone, A Pole, Liberator (#8)
(Edited)
In the Bible there is periodical cancellation of all debts and return of lost property.
They will be replaced with constitutionally acceptable NESARA President and Vice President Designates, possibly including people such as Joseph Francis Dunford, Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich, Timothy J. Holton, Paul Craig Roberts, or a retired Pentagon White Hat such as Michael T. Flynn or Carter F. Ham. Donald Trump may be allowed a temporary rôle in publicly exposing the machinations of the Bush syndicate and the Clinton Foundation, and in releasing details about the Satanist disinformation nexus connecting the US mainstream media and PsyOps cells within the US intelligence services.
There will be new Presidential and Congressional elections within 120 days of NESARA's announcement. These elections will be carefully monitored to prevent vote theft, hacking and other illegal election activities by special interest groups or covert syndicates.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#10. To: Deckard (#9)
#11. To: A K A Stone (#10)
(Edited)
We're talking about a year of Jubilee not the nonsense you posted.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#12. To: A K A Stone, Donnell, Obey, Consume, Tulsi Gabbard, *2020 The Likely Suspects*, Deckard (#10)
sunglasses—Hoffman lenses—that Nada sees what lies beneath the elite’s fabricated reality: control and bondage.
Ron Paul - Lake Jackson Texas Values
#13. To: Hondo68 (#12)
sunglasses—Hoffman lenses—that Nada sees what lies beneath the elite’s fabricated reality: control and bondage.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#14. To: A K A Stone (#6)
You should read the Bible and Gods economic plan that says debt makes you a slave.
#15. To: Vicomte13 (#14)
(!) The wealthy with the wealth available MUST lend money to their poor countryman, when asked. (
#16. To: Vicomte13 (#14)
Every countryman has a birthright to a piece of farmland, for free, which can NEVER be taken from him - not in payment of debt, not in punishment for crime - not for ANY REASON.
#17. To: Vicomte13 (#14)
(8) No tresspassing law: the poor can always walk through the fields and pluck food to eat, without payment.
#18. To: Vicomte13 (#14)
Yes, the Bible, on economics:
#19. To: A K A Stone (#16)
#20. To: A K A Stone (#18)
That is not in red so you said it is not Gods word.
#21. To: Deckard, A K A Stone, A Pole, vicompte13, nolu chan, redleghunter, jeremaid, watchman (#9)
The National Economic Security and Reformation Act (NESARA) was signed into law in 2000, but never enacted.
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