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Title: Cops Arrest 12-Year-Old For Pointing 'Finger Gun' At Classmates
Source: TechDirt
URL Source: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/2 ... g-finger-guns-classmates.shtml
Published: Oct 16, 2019
Author: Tim Cushing
Post Date: 2019-10-16 17:52:59 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 89
Comments: 7

from the finally-the-gov't-is-getting-serious-on-gun-control dept

If we keep insisting on putting cops in schools, things like this are never going to stop happening:

A 12-year-old Overland Park girl formed a gun with her fingers, pointed at four of her Westridge Middle School classmates one at a time, and then turned the pretend weapon toward herself.

Police hauled her out of school in handcuffs, arrested her and charged the child with a felony for threatening.

No one wants to talk about this case. Not the police. Not the school. And not the district. But the arrest no one wants to discuss is only the latest arrest of a minor over something extremely minor. Not that you'd assume it was minor if you read the court documents.

[A]ccording to Johnson County District Court documents, on Sept. 18, the girl “unlawfully and feloniously communicated a threat to commit violence, with the intent to place another, in fear, or with the intent to cause the evacuation, lock down or disruption in regular, ongoing activities …” or created just the risk of causing such fear.

This arrest over finger guns follows similar arrests of minors over things no one in their right mind would consider to be criminal acts. But the combination of zero tolerance policies and actual cops roaming school halls, this is what students have been subjected to in the recent past:

- A ten-year-old student arrested for a finger gun-based "threat"

- A seven-year-old suspended for bringing a "weapon" -- a pen that "buzzed" when touched -- to school

- A seven-year-old suspended for brandishing a "gun" he made by taking a strategic bite out of his Pop Tart

- A student suspended for taking a hand-drawn picture of a bomb to school with him [actual drawing posted below]

The school's only statement is that it had nothing to do with the arrest -- that the arrest was entirely law enforcement's decisions. But that assumes school administrators are incapable of exercising discretion. The arrest was made in the principal's office and a school resource officer recommended the student be arrested. No one in the office even attempted to prevent this from happening, apparently. What the SRO recommended is what happened and the school is now trying to distance itself from its complicity in this debacle.

Even assuming the anecdotal background is true, this arrest is still overkill.

A person familiar with a more detailed incident report spoke to The Star on condition of anonymity. The person said that during a class discussion, another student asked the girl, if she could kill five people in the class, who would they be? In response, the girl allegedly pointed her finger pistol — like the ones many children use playing cops and robbers.

This might make the incident a bit more disturbing, but it should not elevate it to the level of a crime -- especially not a felony. But that's what happened. The school may have felt compelled to accept the officer's arrest recommendation. The school may have felt bound by policy to pursue disciplinary action. But this is a 12-year-old surrounded by fully-functioning adults -- none of whom felt compelled to exercise their discretion or common sense. Finger guns on a schoolyard shouldn't result in felony charges. There's a lot of middle ground that no one's exploring and it's going to ruin the lives of students who have no idea their classroom jokes are running headlong into people who let their policies and protocols do all of their thinking for them. (1 image)

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#1. To: Deckard (#0)

" Police hauled her out of school in handcuffs, arrested her and charged the child with a felony for threatening. "

My my my.

I guess we have some members here that are celebrating, yet probably disappointed that she was not shot for threatening the cops.

However, several points on the bright side :

The cops did score a huge bust to enhance hero status in the face of true dangerous risk

The cops added to their arrest log

The arresting officer received the coveted Barney Fife Golden Handcuffs Award

AND the cops went home safe.

Another big successful crime bust !!

Pass out the doughnuts !!

Three cheers for the HEROES !

Yeeh Haw !!!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

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Stoner  posted on  2019-10-17   7:39:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Stoner (#1)

I share your frustration and disgust... These cops are just more puppets, "just following orders" IMO. So are the public "school officials."

Some un-named "Authoritahs" ABOVE them have been ordering this kind of over-reaction and un-constitutional over-kill over trivialities. (Yet how is this BS "criminalization" even legal?? Or remained unchallenged in higher courts?)

Bottom Line? Nothing but MORE PROGRAMMING by Public School Systems. (the younger, the better.)

Liberator  posted on  2019-10-17   7:51:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Liberator (#2)

Well, I guess it is unknown who gave the orders for this "Big Bust".

However, if whoever it was, some night gets mugged, and gets fucked up real good, I certainly will not shed a tear for them !!! That would apply to all in the chain of command that order such, and/or condone such.

Personally, I would not have my child in such a bull shit school such as that.

I pulled my children out of public school for a lot less than that. Glad I did !!!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.

"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers)

"No one ever rescues an old dog. They lay in a cage until they die. PLEASE save one. None of us wants to die cold and alone... --Dennis Olson "

People that say money can't buy you happiness, have never paid an adoption fee

Stoner  posted on  2019-10-17   8:08:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Stoner (#3)

Personally, I would not have my child in such a bull shit school such as that.

I pulled my children out of public school for a lot less than that. Glad I did !!!

Nice. Well done!

I guess it is unknown who gave the orders for this "Big Bust".

Hidden under layers of bureaucracy. Would LOVE to know who green-lighted this and other similar cases. (We KNOW it's a Leftist-Democrat. And perhaps child-hating LBTQ)

Liberator  posted on  2019-10-17   8:16:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Liberator (#4)

(We KNOW it's a Leftist-Democrat. And perhaps child-hating LBTQ)

That's where you people lose me. You have your political hatreds, and you simply put anybody who does anything into your political box. You're just SURE that this person must've been a leftist Democrat.

In my experience in life, cops are usually right-wing types, and they are the ones making these arrests and doing these shootings, etc.

Vicomte13  posted on  2019-10-17   18:20:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Vicomte13 (#5)

That's where you people lose me.

You have your political hatreds, and you simply put anybody who does anything into your political box. You're just SURE that this person must've been a leftist Democrat.

Who ELSE has taken this particular position of criminalizing innocent little kids for being a normal little kids -- OTHER THAN Leftists-Democrats-Feminists-LBGTQs?

You may look at this kind of profiling as "hate"; I do too. "Hatred" of those in positions of power who have been in the business of bullying and traumatizing innocent kids and people in order to make political points.

In my experience in life, cops are usually right-wing types, and they are the ones making these arrests and doing these shootings, etc.

That may indeed be your experience; This particular case happens to be repeated all over America for the same ridiculous reason by the same anti-2A Leftist-Democrats Mafia. You know how this works -- LE are obligated to follow orders.

Liberator  posted on  2019-10-17   19:39:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Liberator (#6)

Who else? The cops who arrest them. THEY are not Left wingers. Cops noawadays tend to be hairtrigger military veterans with PTSD. They're combat hardened and generally right wing, not left.

And the cops are the ones actually DOING the bad things, like arresting these kids.

Vicomte13  posted on  2019-10-17   21:53:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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