Title: If A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words, Then What Do These Memes Say? (Parts VIII & I) Source:
The Potters Clay URL Source:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa6ulv9aQno Published:Oct 10, 2018 Author:The Potters Clay Post Date:2019-10-07 12:02:10 by Liberator Keywords:Truth, Memes, Hmmm Views:53043 Comments:340
A little Meme action... If you haven't seen them, checkout the rest!
Get bored easily? No time to watch long videos? MEMES TO THE RESCUE! Short & Sweet.
These are found at a Christian You Tube called, 'The Potters Clay'...
These are REALLY good. Fun stuff. I promise. Spectacular AND clever. It doesn't matter what your core belief is; you will come upon several memes that will stop you dead in your tracks and challenge you.
(STRONG SUGGESTION: To adjust and slow these memes down, go to your YouTube 'Settings', then adjust 'Playback Speed to .75. It will give you more time to contemplate the meme, since they move along pretty fast.)
When you have the time, please give them all a look; I consider them a crash-course in Earth-Science Truth, Logic, and Reason.
No. Cells are alive. When you eat them, they die. Animals and men were killing plants long before the fall. Nor does Genesis prescribe foot for sea creatures at all. What were sharks and whales eating? Text doesn’t say. Whatever it was, they, and all other sea creatures, were killing their food all along.
You’re an idiot....ravings of a delusional lunatic...Get mental help.
Look what you have to put up with to even try to have a quiet, rational conversation with a Christian if he disagrees with you. That’s the fruit of their pens. They “rebuke” you - as though what they say is at all persuasive. They abuse you and hector you constantly. And then, in the old days before the Age of Reason and the Revolutions, they killed you quite horribly if you did not submit to their illogic and emotion. Deprived of the power to kill, they never developed the power to speak rationally. They reject science, because it requires a revision of their understanding of their book. Muslims behave the same way.
Why would anyone want to join a club of people who treat them like this.
Why would I? When I tell them about my own contacts and communications with God, they impugn my sanity?
These Christians are full of rage, hate and insult. I like God much better than I like them. He’s nothing like them, and he demonstrates what he means. So I’ll stick with him. Talking to Christians is too unpleasant to keep up.
Cells are alive. When you eat them, you kill them.
As usual, some good reading from Answers In Genesis.
A snippet from the article "Death Before Sin?"
The Bible is very clear about the nature of life. Life, according to the Bible, resides in the "soul," or the Hebrew word "nephesh." This might be equated roughly with the concept of consciousness. This quality is ascribed only to man and some animals, but never plants. The Bible is also very clear as to what happens to plants—"they wither and fade" (Isaiah 40:6-8; James 1:10) but plants never die. They have biological life, but not Biblical life. Men and animals could eat plant life without death, in Biblical terms, taking place.
Link to the article: https://www.icr.org/article/295/
Link to a longer article "'Life' According to the Bible": https://answersingenesis.org/origin-of-life/what-is-life/life-according-to-the-bible-and-the-scientific-evidence/
Look what you have to put up with to even try to have a quiet, rational conversation with a Christian if he disagrees with you.
Quit bastarding scripture and you wont get corrected.
In other words give up your fake christian Catholic beliefs that contradict what Jesus and the Bible says. Every word of the Bible that is.
It isn't hate it is disgust at someone perverting Gods word like you do regularly. You rip pages out of the Bible because you can't live up to them. Then you add to scripture by accepting the lies of sinner popes. Purgatory for example 1 of 10000 or so.
This is an interesting discussion, “necessary”, Life, “soul” etc. Can we have the discussion off the board? It’s very difficult to talk calmly while being snarled at.
Jesus said that killers were consigned to the Lake of Fire at final judgment.
Then why are you working for the devil and trying to send people to hell when you said
"Yep. Let's throw off the mask.
I hate the enemy. Hate them. And I want to see them dead.
We cannot lose a war against them, and they're hellbent on war - seizing tankers, shooting down drones, supporting terrorism, declaring us the Great Satan - all of that shit.
Let's give them the war they so badly want. And continue that war until they are broken and cease to exist as an organized fighting force.
Persia delenda est.
So be it.
Vicomte13 posted on 2019-07-26 15:47:46 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Edit"
#310. To: Pinguinite, watchman, Liberator, Tooconservative, nolu chan (#308)(Edited)
Then why are you working for the devil and trying to send people to hell
Not really sure whether I should respond to A K A Stone's rolling raging screed above or not.
On the one hand, it's not pleasant to read, and the personal insults and anti-Catholic bigotry in it are painful to deal with.
On the other hand, if I don't respond blow for blow, I fear that could be perceived as ceding the field because of a lack of answers to that nonsense.
Not being willing to deal with a nettle is not the same thing as being unable to.
My instinct is to let the dogs yowl while my caravan passes, and that's what I am likely to do, unless you gentlemen tell me that you think I need to stand and fight here.
Not really sure whether I should respond to A K A Stone's
Quit feeling sorry for yourself. You told pinguinite he is ungodly and should die for all you care.
So take your phoney mask off. You aren't a Catholic. Catholics by definitoin believe the Gospel which you said is a lie. You can dish it out but when someone points out that you call for murder you cry poor me stone is attacking me what shall I do. Grow up.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Not being willing to deal with a nettle is not the same thing as being unable to.
You're a walking bag of deceptions. You say you only believe the red letters in the Bible. Then why the F do you believe the lie that makes Christ a liar Purgatory. You can't defend that because if would make you a hypocrite again.
You catholics have been making stuff up about the Bible and Christ for centuries. Someone calls you out on your crap and you start crying. You can't defend your beliefs consistently. You have to delete scripture. Lie and say you only believe the red letters. Yes it is a lie because purgatory and some idiot pope heading the church are not in any red letters or anywhere else for that matter.
Ha! Well, that's fair. This is, after all, an Internet chat site. Still, I see the sincerity - and the sincere anger - in the posts directed at me. I just don't think I can get through.
Ha! Well, that's fair. This is, after all, an Internet chat site.
Also fair to question whether this forum "reality" really is a "chat" site or Judge, Jury & Firing Squad ;-)
Still, I see the sincerity - and the sincere anger - in the posts directed at me. I just don't think I can get through.
That is certainly the reality of the situation -- it's no mirage. Points get made, but often little actual feedback is exchanged. At BOTH ends. becomes frustrating.
You'd suggested a give & take one-on-one exchange. There's always an element of posturing in a forum -- it's natural, but no one gets very far. Maybe a candid personal exchange beyond prying eyes is the only fair solution to understanding one another. IF that indeed is the goal. And just maybe some of us drone on too long on deep riffs. Some have briefer attention-spans. Maybe better to keep thing shorter & sweeter. JMHO.
Watchman is certainly a sincere Christian - he obviously REALLY BELIEVES what he is trying to teach. I certainly believe what I say. Rather than tear each other apart for everybody else's entertainment, I expect we'll have a discussion by PM of the religious topics we have discussed.
That seems to me the way to get to productive discussion between people with very different views of God, if they actually, really, truly want to understand each other.
On the other hand, I'm not interested in being preached at, just as I am sure nobody else is either.
And finally, I'm really NOT interested in going after anybody with a tire iron. It's not that I CAN'T, it's that I don't want to.
I do wonder if it all ultimately serves any purpose. For example, the clear difference in opinion here regarding theories of the origins of species and the literalness of the Bible. There is passion on both sides, but can that passion generate anything other than heat and smoke? Nobody on either side will convince the other of anything. I know that. Why, then, engage in the conversation at all? Do I expect anybody to change his mind? Does anybody really expect to change mine? And that's even if the nicest and most cordial words are used. Obviously nobody ever changed anybody's mind about anything by insulting him and trying to rip him apart.
Even that - how does one respond to be ripped at? Physical violence is not possible. What, then? An exchange of insults?
In the end, what purpose is there in having these discussions at all?
Nobody on either side will convince the other of anything. I know that. Why, then, engage in the conversation at all? Do I expect anybody to change his mind? Does anybody really expect to change mine? And that's even if the nicest and most cordial words are used. Obviously nobody ever changed anybody's mind about anything by insulting him and trying to rip him apart.
That's one of the reasons why I see support in my position on theology: It's not what you believe, it's what you do with what you believe.
So if one believes the Bible as the literal Word of God, fine. Are you using that belief destructively to harm others or gently to aid others? The contrast between Stone and Watchman, as I perceive it at least, illustrates the wrong and right way to do it. (And yes, Stone, as I see it, resorting to insults is not what the Bible teaches).
But.... people need time to change. And one lifetime is simply not enough to change. Probably no argument on that from Christians as quashing vices is not the required Christian objective, but it is an element in support of the reincarnation view.
So if one believes the Bible as the literal Word of God, fine. Are you using that belief destructively to harm others or gently to aid others?
2 Timothy 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.
And one lifetime is simply not enough to change.
Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Jeremiah 13: 23 Can an Ethiopian change his skin or a leopard its spots? Neither can you do good who are accustomed to doing evil.
Probably no argument on that from Christians as quashing vices is not the required Christian objective
Romans 12:1 - I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, [which is] your reasonable service
2 Corinthians 7:1 - Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.
In the end, what purpose is there in having these discussions at all?
It is published, so may find an audience. I happened across this today and am reminded of our previous correspondence, which has been interesting and valuable to me.
Brings to mind the discussions I enjoyed with several of the Catholics at FR, back in the day. My favorite interlocutors are educated Catholics, followed by those Jews who are not mired in pilpul or engaging in outright prevarication (wittingly or not).
But I'm ALSO a boy from the northwoods who went off to the Navy for two decades and who was, and is, perfectly willing - even eager - to blow up the bad guys.
It's not particularly difficult for a bookworm to turn the other cheek. His instinct is not to fight. My instincts are more that of a bear: provoke me, and my instinct is to maul you, or a bull - content to munch on the flowers, but likely to charge when provoked.
Insults provoke me.
If I follow my instincts, it's very cathartic for ME, but it mangles the message that Jesus put out there specifically FOR me and people like me: check the rage, calm the pride and stay on course.
So, thanks for reminding me that other people read this besides the bear-baiter and the picador.
t. My instincts are more that of a bear: provoke me, and my instinct is to maul you, or a bull - content to munch on the flowers, but likely to charge when provoked.
Except you can't follow your instincts I have you in a corner and you are afriad to comment because it will show you a hypocrite.
You said to pinguinite that he is godless and he can die for all you care. So no one is worse then you at insulting people here. No one.
You say that christians are anti science. You can't defend that. You're afraid to.
You say that you wear a mask meaning you are a fake and a phoney. Then you said you wanted to kill all your enemies. You wanted the all dead and we had to do that and we can't lose.
Then a few weeks later you said any soldier who kills another in war is a murderer and goes to hell. Which by the way you said you didn't believe in before.
So I ask if you are serving the devil, a legitimate question since you made comments wanting others do do your dirty work and murder as you put it lots and lots of people. Does that happen in a vacuum? Do those people not go to hell because Vic the guy who claims lizards and mice were raised from the dead wants it?
You said you reject the Bible as Gods word and only believe the red letters. Well that makes you a liar again because the asshole Popes and Purgatory isn't there in red or anywhere else. Making your position that of a liar or at the least someone who is not consistent.
You also like to boast of how great you are.
These words frighten you and you know you are a hypocrite or at the least someone with inconsistent beliefs.
You say you follow christ but you ignore when he says all scripture is profitable for study it is all Gods word. So you are calling Jesus a liar.
You are also calling Jesus a liar when he says he is the only way and it is finished. With your lying doctrine of purgatory that fools people into not getting saved or paying off the catholic CULT for entry to heaven.
The Pope is not infallible he does not speak for God. The Pope isn't in the Bible, I repeat it because you are kind of slow on the take sometimes.
That's one of the reasons why I see support in my position on theology:
Why because the human mind can believe things that simply aren't true?
One lifetime better be enough because that is all you get despite some fool hyptontist whispering suggestions in peoples ears.
You still never answered why you used to claim to be a christian. Was it true? What caused you to change your mind? It is curious that you refuse to go into that. It is your right but just curious.
Sounds like you are a Catholic. Maybe you can answer some questions.
I am a Christian who attends to exegetical works from several denominations. The Catholic Church is a well developed source.
Do the Catholics teach that only the red words of Jesus are Scripture like Vic says is the way?
I believe the Catholic Church uses the whole Bible as a scriptural source, with additional attention to oral traditions that have been passed down. Vicomte13 can speak for himself.
Is Jesus the only way or can you pay off the Catholic church to get to heaven and have your sins forgiven?
A state of grace is required to enter Heaven, which for most of us requires acceptance of grace and repentance of our sins. Prayer and good works can help to expatiate sin and recognize grace.
Why did the Catholics make up Purgatory? It isn't in the Bible and you know that and will admit that if you are an honest person.
I am aware that there are exegetical difference between Catholics and Protestants on this subject.
Now let me ask you:
Are you without sin?
Is repentance an easy instant thing, or does it most often require a significant effort to first recognize it, then to expatiate it from our hearts?
Can you help others free themselves from sin by your prayers and works?
I believe that, as human beings, we have both an animal nature and a spiritual nature. The former is easy, as it is merely nature. The latter is difficult, as it is the effort required to expatiate the sin of sapience -- the ability to know the difference between good and evil and willingly engage ourselves in either and both.
You do worse. You deny Gods word is his word. You are a follower of the Popes. You follow men who add to scripture. Like Purgatory and men Popes who are not holy.
You don't even follow Catholic doctrine correctly.
You do worse. You deny Gods word is his word. You are a follower of the Popes. You follow men who add to scripture. Like Purgatory and men Popes who are not holy.
You don't even follow Catholic doctrine correctly.
I believe that, as human beings, we have both an animal nature and a spiritual nature.
The Bible does not teach that we have an animal nature. God's Word does teach that we are men, created in the image of God, having a spirit, soul and body.
