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Title: Murray woman charged after letting cat lie on front lawn
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FOX 13, Salt Lake City
URL Source: https://fox13now.com/2019/06/26/mur ... letting-cat-lay-on-front-lawn/
Published: Jun 27, 2019
Author: Elle Thomas
Post Date: 2019-10-02 10:23:29 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 9064
Comments: 156
MURRAY, Utah – A Utah woman wants to see change after an antiquated ordinance led her to receive misdemeanor charges for allowing her cat to lie on their front lawn. When Kate Anderson was first approached by animal control, she thought something terrible had happened to their cat. Then, the officer gave her a citation, carrying the weight of two misdemeanor charges, for letting her cat lie on their own lawn. “Milo, come here!” Anderson said as she made kissy noises to her cat while it laid on their front lawn. In the Anderson household, Milo is treated like family. “He’s got a cat door, so he just comes and goes and is a cat,” Anderson said. However, they never expected their furry feline would be the reason they were slapped with misdemeanor charges. “There he is, back at the scene of the crime,” Anderson laughed as her cat came near her and laid on the lawn. On Monday, Kate said Milo had let himself outside and was on their front lawn – someone then took a picture of Milo and reported it. “I just got a ticket for my cat being outside, in my yard,” Anderson said in disbelief. An animal control employee received the report and made a house call to Kate’s Murray home. They then wrote her a citation. “This is a cat who is neutered and micro-chipped and vaccinated, and is not a menace to society,” Anderson said. Kate lifted up the ordinance and started to explain what it said, “That’s telling me I have to call for my court date… for my misdemeanors… of having my cat outside.” Two charges were listed on the citation, both Class B misdemeanors. The first for having an ‘animal at large,’ the second for ‘not having an animal license attached.’ “Like a fugitive. Like robbed a bank,” she said after reading the phrase ‘at large’ out loud. Based on the Murray city ordinance, which was enacted in 1963, it is illegal for any animal, house cats included, to run at large. The ordinance reads in part: “It is unlawful for the owner or person having charge, care, custody or control of any animal to allow such animal at any time to run at large. The owner or person charged with responsibility of an animal found running loose shall be strictly liable for a violation of this section and for any injury to a person or another animal, or property damage caused by such animal running at large, regardless of the precautions taken to prevent the escape of the animal and regardless of whether the owner or person charged with responsibility knows that the animal is running at large." Murray City goes on to define ‘at large’ as anytime an animal is not on a leash, confined to a vehicle or secured in the yard. Even if the animal is on the owner’s property, Murray City defines them as ‘at large’ unless there is adequate protection to ensure other’s safety, there also must be a warning given, to let individuals know the animal is there. “I don’t think most people think it is illegal to let your cat outside under any circumstance,” Anderson said. “It sounded like the ordinance was kept vague for a reason so if there are strange circumstances, they can do something about that, but this just feels like animal control being out of control,” Anderson said. The City Attorney for Murray, G.L. Critchfield, told FOX 13 that while Milo being on the lawn was technically a violation, they have filed a motion to dismiss the charges, considering how minor the violation is. While prosecutors did tell Kate, that they would not be following through with the charges, she said she does not know what to do considering her cat is an indoor/outdoor animal. “It’s definitely antiquated, I think if anything, there needs to be some kind of addition or amendment to the ordinance excluding felines,” Anderson said. Critchfield said they do not foresee any amendments being made to the ordinance as it stands, to allow a broad coverage of any animals they encounter.
Poster Comment: At least the doggie cop didn't "fear for his life" and shoot the kitty. On Monday, Kate said Milo had let himself outside and was on their front lawn – someone then took a picture of Milo and reported it. What kind of asshole does that? I can imagine Gatlin, the self appointed Gladys Kravitzu in his gated community maybe.
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#117. To: Gatlin (#116)
That is not what happened. What you “made” me do was to confront you head on with truth and try to get you to use basic formative logic and think things through rationally. No dumb ass. You dodged and played the asswipe for grandisland. It isn't logical to pretend that killing a cat for walking on your yard is reasonable or rational or legal. You don't give a shit about the law. You just like coming here to bait Deckard and have fun posting stuff. That's it. You wren't trying to teach shit. You like pretending you know something and you do sometimes. But not here.
Your threat against me is duly noted and taken to heart. I shall give you no reason to ever carry out your threat. With sincere personal regards,
I gotta go put my cat outside.
I can see that I had no success in doing that and I realize that I probably never will. But with me desperately trying to help you, what better evidence of being and friend and respecting you can there be? I deeply regret that you cannot understand and see this. This is textbook gaslighting technique, designed to emotionally manipulate you and make you question your own judgement and even your own sanity. Psychopaths are well-known for gaslighting their victims, for instance. It's not hard to detect these people because they do have enough success in manipulating people that they begin to think they are more effective at it than they are. Usually it just means their gaslighting only works with dumb people so they conclude that they are brilliant. Which all fits the demeanor Gatlin displays here. I'm glad you recognized the pattern of constant manipulative language, the ego stroking, the insistence they are acting on your behalf to correct your befuddled thinking, etc. I think that in real life, you've encountered more than a few of these types of people. Running a small business, I think you encounter all kinds of people, including some real con men and scammers. Your threat against me is duly noted and taken to heart. I shall give you no reason to ever carry out your threat. He doesn't want you to delete his account permanently. He's departing for now, laughing, but does intend to return some months from now. This is classic Canary technique.
Very astute observations, and analysis of Gatlin. He will be back shortly to call you a Paultard, and stink up the place some more LOL !
Si vis pacem, para bellum Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers) "No one ever rescues an old dog. They lay in a cage until they die. PLEASE save one. None of us wants to die cold and alone... --Dennis Olson " People that say money can't buy you happiness, have never paid an adoption fee
He supposedly has me on bozo. Or so he told me.
Oh my God !!! How can you possibly live with that ? How devastating !! /sarc LOL !!!
Si vis pacem, para bellum Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers) "No one ever rescues an old dog. They lay in a cage until they die. PLEASE save one. None of us wants to die cold and alone... --Dennis Olson " People that say money can't buy you happiness, have never paid an adoption fee
I cry myself to sleep, every night. I may just have to kill myself because Gatshit put me on bozo and so life is no longer worth living.
Yeah, that is probably true !! What is also true, we can all enjoy the peace, calm & tranquility during his absence !!
Si vis pacem, para bellum Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers) "No one ever rescues an old dog. They lay in a cage until they die. PLEASE save one. None of us wants to die cold and alone... --Dennis Olson " People that say money can't buy you happiness, have never paid an adoption fee
I certainly hope you learn to deal with that. Have your wife lock up all guns, knives, etc, and to keep a close eye on you! LOL !!!
Si vis pacem, para bellum Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers) "No one ever rescues an old dog. They lay in a cage until they die. PLEASE save one. None of us wants to die cold and alone... --Dennis Olson " People that say money can't buy you happiness, have never paid an adoption fee
It’s not logical to pretend that your asshole cat isn’t shitting all over your neighbors, you LAZY asshole. Buy a litter box, and keep your filthy kritter on YOUR property. It’s turds like you, that caused HOA’s in the first place. No wonder you loath them like a 24 karat Paultard. Because you are the most important person you know. lol
You have shown yourself to be a bad cop. Someone who would break the law and kill some kids pet when the lawful thing to do is to call animal control. Then you would cover it up by hiding the evidence. You would wind up in jail and the laughingstock of some youtube videos.
But.... your fucking cat isn’t shitting on my property anymore, now is it? Haaaaaa
My cat is allowed to shit in your yard. In fact I would train it to do just that based on your attitude. In fact i'd bring in some stray cats and drop them off at your place.
Haaaaaa But your ass in 3 inches wider. Haaaaa Haaaaa
Keep the kitty’s flowing before archery season. I spend hours practicing. lol
Hey, asshole. God tells me I can kill your fucking cat, when I’m hungry. Local law doesn’t out TRUMP God. “ Genesis 9:3 3 Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. And as I gave you the green plants, I give you everything.” I’m hungry A LOT ... I’d keep your dog locked up, too
“ Genesis 27:3 Now then, take your weapons, your quiver and your bow, and go out to the field and hunt game for me. God wants me to kill your cat. God NULLIFIES your little PETA feelings being hurt. Soon, you will FLIP FLOP on the issue, like you do with your drug addict loving Paultard posters, that occasionally tell you to fuck off... then you love them.
It is nonsense like this thread (and flat earth) that motivates me to go do something else which does not threaten to kill brain cells. I have not commented on this thread at all. Anyway, as I have been pinged to this glorious intellectual battle, - - - - - - - - - - [A K A Stone #115] From now on don't answer any hypothetical questions because i might delete them since you wont answer mine because it will hurt your little friends feelings. - - - - - - - - - - [Gatlin #116] What you “made” me do was to confront you head on with truth and try to get you to use basic formative logic and think things through rationally. - - - - - - - - - - [A K A Stone #117] It isn't logical to pretend that killing a cat for walking on your yard is reasonable or rational or legal. You don't give a shit about the law. GrandIsland's comment is in the context of criticism of those who engage in espousing jury nullification when it suits them and condemning it when it goes against their wishes. They perceive either a juror constitutional right, or an unconstitutional overreach, depending on the result. GI reserves the sacred right to nullify cats trespassing on his property. GrandIsland's snark about nullifying a law (or cats, or a law about cats) makes as much sense as the typical legal rationale for something given around here. Folks around here commonly express disdain for the laws they disagree with. Personal opinions are expressed as the actual law, quotations of real laws are held in contempt. [A K A Stone 2019-06-23] I just noticed this is another article by the liar Matt Argorist. No more articles from that freak. [A K A Stone 2019-09-04] Post Matt. Did you not approve posts from the liar and freak, Matt Agorist? If posts from an acknowledged liar and freak are permissible, how can anyone be outraged at a few snarky or factually challenged comments? That moved on to: When I proved that the Federal court cannot order a State government to pay, this advanced to: It is nice that you now don't care one way or the other, and that you still think the govt will pay, but neither you nor Deckard can provide any legal reason or rationale to support the original Matt Agorist headline that blared, "Taxpayers to Be Held Liable After Cops Steal Man’s Phone." Your response is above, and Deckard's response is to run and hide in silence as he usually does, only to resume streetwalking and selling his bullshit on different threads with your approval. https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=60194&Disp=11#C11 A Florida Retiree's Uncut Lawn May Cost Him His House As I pointed out last night, this tall tale of Jim Ficken's tall grass, repeated for the fourth time in four different months, is, shall we say, somewhat legally and factually challenged. I provide court documents which provide a different story than the one-sided propaganda being shilled here. Court documents tend to evoke crickets. We are just lucky nothing real is happening in the world, or we would miss it. May the farce be with all y'all.
GrandIsland's snark about nullifying a law (or cats, or a law about cats) makes as much sense as the typical legal rationale for something given around here. Folks around here commonly express disdain for the laws they disagree with. Personal opinions are expressed as the actual law, quotations of real laws are held in contempt. I agree... the place has evolved into a shithole. I figured I couldn’t make it any more worse than Stone allowed it to get. He treats his site like his neighbors... he lets his kitty’s shit on his posters.
I already admitted I was wrong. I'll do that. I do believe in the end the government will pay. I should have been more clear. I think more lawsuits will be filed and it seems to me government's settle lots of cases. What I meant by I dont care that much or however I worded it was that the case isn't going to change my life it doesn't affect me. I dont know if it was on purpose and I'm not going to fact check every detail. The bigger story was the cops doing wrong and not the minor detail...
Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
I think talking online about killing other people's pets is pretty bad form on any forum.
I thought I and the U.S. Supreme Court clearly stated that it is UNCONSTITUTIONAL for an individual to sue a named state defendant in Federal court. Read it again: Edelman v. Jordan, 415 U.S. 651, 677 (1974) At 1 (Syllabus) (a) A suit by private parties seeking to impose a liability payable from public funds in the state treasury is foreclosed by the Amendment if the State does not consent to suit. Pp. 415 U. S. 662-663. At 675-677: 415 U. S. 676 been suggested that § 1983 was intended to create a waiver of a State's Eleventh Amendment immunity merely because an action could be brought under that 415 U. S. 677 section against state officers, rather than against the State itself. Though a § 1983 action may be instituted by public aid recipients such as respondent, a federal court's remedial power, consistent with the Eleventh Amendment, is necessarily limited to prospective injunctive relief, Ex parte Young, supra, and may not include a retroactive award which requires the payment of funds from the state treasury, Ford Motor Co. v. Department of Treasury, supra. Why do you think more lawsuits will make the 11th Amendment evaporate and go away? The State of Connecticut in not a defendant in Picard because, if Connecticut were added, no Federal court could hear the case. Why do you think the State of Connecticut will settle a suit to which it is not a party, and in which the Court can issue no claim against a state? If there were to be a hundred more similarly situated cases, none of them could name the State of Connecticut as a defendant. As SCOTUS said, "A suit by private parties seeking to impose a liability payable from public funds in the state treasury is foreclosed by the [Eleventh] Amendment if the State does not consent to suit." The named defendants are STATE troopers. They are STATE employees. Where they are found to have qualified immunity, no award will issue. Where their act or omission is found to have been wanton, reckless or malicious, they are denied qualified immunity and the Court may issue an award of damages against them personally. Matt Agorist screams in a headline, the taxpayers will pay. Assume their actions are held wanton, reckless or malicious — produce the law which supports the screaming headline. We are not discussing "governments," we are discussing "STATE governments" in general, and Connecticut in particular. Any payment by Connecticut must be voluntary on the part of Connecticut. The STATE of Connecticut withheld agreement to reimburse employees for damages resulting from any act or omission found to have been wanton, reckless or malicious, or outside the scope of employment.
Gatschitt never had any couth so nothing he does should surprise you, after awhile you just have to laugh at his (and GI Tracts) childish antics.
Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Because Matt is a lying fucking Paultard. Specializing in: Presumptive bias Yellow journalism Fear mongering Indoctrination And his fellow Paultards, suck up his kook-aid, like their hugging their cats.
Hey, asshole. God says I have “dominion” over your filthy smelly wild cat. “ Genesis 1:26 ESV Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” The moral of the story... don’t let livestock “creep” on my fucking tax paid earth (aka my property).
Are you a tough-guy cat lover, too? lol
Exodus 21:28 ESV “When an ox gores a man or a woman to death, the ox shall be stoned, and its flesh shall not be eaten, but the owner of the ox shall not be liable. When your cat shitteth on my holy flowerbed, it shall be stoned. I promise not to eat it’s flesh... or hold your LAZY, non litter buying ass liable. You need to learn the Bible, jack-off. God created your cat and dog, for my consumption. I wouldn’t let them fuckers ROAM too far. lol
You mean like guys that just have to tell everybody (trying to impress them) how much ammunition they have acquired, or how they've flown one of the fastest nuclear capable bombers ever to take to the sky? Nah... Besides what normal guy doesn't like pussy? (Oh wait never mind I forgot all about you tough guys sexual proclivities) Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
Have to admit, I laughed out loud at that one. Interesting new tactic (for you anyways) of invoking Holy Scripture. Gatlin's been using that for years. Has he been tutoring young Mister Five-Oh?
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. Shouldn’t I be allowed the same defenses as A K A Flip Flop?
Funny comments Uncle! This has been a real funny thread !!
Si vis pacem, para bellum Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers) "No one ever rescues an old dog. They lay in a cage until they die. PLEASE save one. None of us wants to die cold and alone... --Dennis Olson " People that say money can't buy you happiness, have never paid an adoption fee
Don't forget, just the other day he claimed to have also had an 11 year OSI career.
Si vis pacem, para bellum Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers) "No one ever rescues an old dog. They lay in a cage until they die. PLEASE save one. None of us wants to die cold and alone... --Dennis Olson " People that say money can't buy you happiness, have never paid an adoption fee
Which one Gatschitt or GI Tract?
Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
You mean like guys that just have to tell everybody (trying to impress them) how much ammunition they have acquired, or how they've flown one of the fastest nuclear capable bombers ever to take to the sky? Freakin' funny.
He’s Goldi. lol THAT is a classic (and insane) old-school LP response. (Goldi's Cat frowns upon this thread)
Fuck Goldi and her cat. You did know that Goldi’s cat was EATING on Goldi... she was down so long because family never contacted the kook, because she was Paultard mentally weird. That’s what animals do.
Liberace and Freddy Mercury were big pet loves, too. lol
Gatschitt, post 18 in this thread: https://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=60060&Disp=29#C29
Si vis pacem, para bellum Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." (Will Rogers) "No one ever rescues an old dog. They lay in a cage until they die. PLEASE save one. None of us wants to die cold and alone... --Dennis Olson " People that say money can't buy you happiness, have never paid an adoption fee
Nah, Stone …
#118. To: A K A Stone, GrandIsland, nolu chan (#115)
… because i might delete them …
Gatlin
#119. To: Gatlin (#118)
#120. To: A K A Stone (#116)
(Edited)
What you “made” me do was to confront you head on with truth and try to get you to use basic formative logic and think things through rationally.
At least I made you take off your mask and drop all the phoney Stone you are my friend and I respect you bullshit.
… because i might delete them …
#121. To: Tooconservative (#120)
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#122. To: Stoner (#121)
#123. To: Tooconservative (#122)
" He supposedly has me on bozo. "
#124. To: Stoner (#123)
How can you possibly live with that ? How devastating !!
#125. To: Tooconservative (#120)
" He's departing for now, laughing, but does intend to return some months from now. This is classic Canary technique. "
#126. To: Tooconservative (#124)
" I may just have to kill myself because Gatshit put me on bozo and so life is no longer worth living. "
#127. To: A K A Stone (#117)
(Edited)
It isn't logical to pretend that killing a cat for walking on your yard is reasonable or rational or legal.
#128. To: GrandIsland (#127)
#129. To: A K A Stone (#128)
Someone who would break the law and kill some kids pet when the lawful thing to do is to call animal control. Then you would cover it up by hiding the evidence. You would wind up in jail and the laughingstock of some youtube videos.
#130. To: GrandIsland (#127)
It’s not logical to pretend that your asshole cat isn’t shitting all over your neighbors
#131. To: GrandIsland (#129)
But.... your fucking cat isn’t shitting on my property anymore, now is it?
#132. To: A K A Stone (#130)
In fact I would train it to do just that based on your attitude. In fact i'd bring in some stray cats and drop them off at your place.
#133. To: A K A Stone (#131)
#134. To: A K A Stone (#131)
#135. To: A K A Stone, GrandIsland, Gatlin (#117)
[GrandIsland #42] I NULLIFY your stupid cat protection law... just like you nullify laws you don’t like.
[A K A Stone 2019-10-02] The free thought project article in question contained no lies. The tax payers will pay.
[A K A Stone 2019-10-03]If i'm wrong i'm wrong. Who cares. The cops still abused their power and did wrong. That was the point of the article. I still think the govt will pay in the end. But I don't care one way or the other.
#136. To: nolu chan (#135)
GrandIsland's comment is in the context of criticism of those who engage in espousing jury nullification when it suits them and condemning it when it goes against their wishes. They perceive either a juror constitutional right, or an unconstitutional overreach, depending on the result. GI reserves the sacred right to nullify cats trespassing on his property.
#137. To: nolu chan (#135)
is nice that you now don't care one way or the other, and that you still think the govt will pay, but neither you nor Deckard can provide any legal reason or rationale to support the original
#138. To: Tooconservative (#120)
He doesn't want you to delete his account permanently. He's departing for now, laughing, but does intend to return some months from now. This is classic Canary technique.
#139. To: CZ82 (#138)
#140. To: A K A Stone (#137)
I already admitted I was wrong. I'll do that. I do believe in the end the government will pay. I should have been more clear. I think more lawsuits will be filed and it seems to me government's settle lots of cases.
Held: The Eleventh Amendment of the Constitution bars that portion of the District Court's decree that ordered retroactive payment of benefits. Pp. 415 U. S. 658-678.
But it has not heretofore
government's settle lots of cases
#141. To: Tooconservative (#139)
I think talking online about killing other people's pets is pretty bad form on any forum.
#142. To: nolu chan (#140)
Matt Agorist screams in a headline, the taxpayers will pay. Assume their actions are held wanton, reckless or malicious — produce the law which supports the screaming headline.
#143. To: A K A Stone (#130)
#144. To: CZ82 (#141)
#145. To: A K A Stone (#128)
(Edited)
#146. To: GrandIsland (#144)
(Edited)
Are you a tough-guy cat lover, too?
#147. To: GrandIsland (#145)
When your cat shitteth on my holy flowerbed
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#148. To: Deckard (#147)
Interesting new tactic (for you anyways) of invoking Holy Scripture.
#149. To: CZ82 (#146)
#150. To: CZ82 (#146)
" You mean like guys that just have to tell everybody (trying to impress them) how much ammunition they have acquired, or how they've flown one of the fastest nuclear capable bombers ever to take to the sky? "
#151. To: Stoner (#150)
Don't forget, just the other day he claimed to have also had an 11 year OSI career.
#152. To: CZ82, GrandIsland (#146)
("Are you a tough-guy cat lover, too?")
#153. To: GrandIsland, Gatlin, A K A Stone, Deckard, Goldi's Cat, We The People (#57)
I gotta tell ya, Gatlin. I didn’t think Stone was as Paultarded, as the drug lovers... but like Goldi, he’s a cat loving Paultard fucking freak. No wonder he allows his fellow Paultards to treat him like shit, verbally, then tell them not to do something like post lying articles... then he flip flops.
#154. To: Liberator (#153)
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#155. To: Liberator (#152)
#156. To: CZ82 (#151)
" Gatschitt or GI Tract? "
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