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Title: RAW FOOTAGE: Balloon, aka NASA "Satellite" Floats Across Full Moon
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URL Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAfdkWy0QtE&feature=youtu.be
Published: Feb 3, 2018
Author: Flat Earth Dude
Post Date: 2019-09-28 17:41:37 by Liberator
Keywords: NASA, Satellite, Balloon
Views: 31220
Comments: 184
(Video taken through a Nikon P900 camera)
Poster Comment: Cool! Great shot of the Moon as well. (Sure doesn't seem like it's 239,000 miles away.) So.... is balloon technology how NASA really photographs earth? It appears they are able to attach an equipment gondola to the Balloon...and let 'er rip into Low Earth Orbit. One also wonders if "Astronauts" are actually embedded into a special Balloon gondola instead what's depicted in those dodgy "ISS" shots. Orbital velocity is the velocity needed to achieve balance between gravity's pull on the satellite and the inertia of the satellite's motion -- the satellite's tendency to keep going. This is approximately 17,000 mph (27,359 kph) at an altitude of 150 miles (242 kilometers). Without gravity, the satellite's inertia would carry it off into space. Moving juuuust a bit slower than 17,000 MPH. Source: 'HOW STUFF WORKS' https://science.howstuffworks.com/satellite6.htm
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#23. To: GrandIsland, Liberator (#21)
G.I., this statement of the hardships of the CT lifestyle made me LOL. Not quite enough to bring tears to my eyes but close enough. Ah, the hardships of unrelenting unrequited paranoia over decades as the entire framework of your mental function... I think Liberator needs a new gig, something novel. We should try to help Liberator create his own lucrative Kookery so he can make some money from being retarded. How about Flat Moon theory? Or Flat Mars theory? Or even Flat Sun theory? Or is it all just a conspiracy to make us believe that only the Earth is FLAT? It is a little fun to review the physicists who posit that the entire universe itself is actually a flat disc and that the apparent 3 dimensions of Newtonian physics is actually merely an artifact of our senses and instrumentality. But they can't prove that any more than they can prove anything from String Theory or that huge waste of time they call the Multiverse.
Fair question... I obviously don't have all the answers, but since "Science" deals far more presumptive theory more than Fact (like "Gravity"), I'll share what I've researched: Vast subterranean oceans below the earth's existing oceans and even under the land ebb and flow. What causes it is anybody's guess. This has been theorized by some scientists as a large factor in causing the tide fluctuations. (Of course we've all been taught to believe the Moon's "gravitational pull" is THE one and only cause.) To what degree you consider the possibilities of recent theories, "Settled Science" or today's "science" is up to you. Ever drove cross-country? Ever wonder who is in charge of pushing the Rockies up out of the ground so you can see them suddenly come into view,and then letting them sink back into the Earth again once you have passed that area? Sure... Yup. That's one amazing sight; Mountains emerging at the horizon, then eventually disappearing beneath it. You're referring to the optics of perspective and objects that seemingly disappearing below the horizon. It's because our ability to see is limited by factors -- like haze. But mostly because everything has a vanishing point at which objects converge into a point...finally disappearing. For instance: This is the perception of expected curvature (based on the formula of 8 inches per mile squared) that appears to "hide" the Rockies, ships, land, etc which appear as if they pass beneath the horizon. One problem: That "formula" is proven NOT to work. It's documented that people are seeing 40-hundreds of miles to objects over a horizon that should not be able to be seen. IF you were to look through high-powered binoculars or telescope at the Rockies you've just "seen" disappear below the horizon, they'd suddenly re-appear again through those magnified specs. This proves they actually did not "fall below the horizon." Here is an excellent, detailed explanation of why "curvature" is a matter of perspective, and why all the world's water and oceans are absolutely level.
Another TooConservative FAIL. (and More irony, lol.) Here a "new gig" for you, TC: Instead of creating your usual silly, embarrassing mis-direction and diversions, stop attempting to distract everyone from your painful inability to answer the simple questions I posed to YOU. Yes, YOU. So...why not ANSWER THEM? Those NASA questions I asked YOU are not going to go away by themselves, are they? Hey -- we can play this game all day....
[NASA lost/sh*t-canned the Moon Technology, because it's] "archive that no one wants...Low priority." Have a nice day. Hilarious. Are you fricking kidding me?? All that wasted time and space. And yet, you still managed NOT to answer my simple questions reasonably, logically. AGAIN: HOW did NASA land men on the Moon 50 years ago...BUT NOW ADMITS IT CAN'T LEAVE LOW EARTH ORBIT? Ergo, CAN'T RETURN TO THE MOON? If that "technology" was so obsolete and unwanted, wouldn't it have made sense to refine EXISTING MOON-TRAVEL KNOWLEDGE and TECHNOLOGY?? (unless...it never existed to begin with. Oooops.)
LF such a "meaningless chitchat forum" that you've compulsively obsessed on and tossed away quite a bit of personal credibility capital on trying awfully hard to discredit every "CT" that's come down the pike. Is this my problem...OR YOURS?
I know you think you're being all critical here but this only reveals exactly how ignorant of the subject you really are. NASA is, in fact, lying here. You don't even seem to notice the actual lie they are telling the public. NASA can't even reach low-earth orbit since the end of the Shuttles. They simply don't own any hardware. And everything they're doing relies on Russian launches, on SpaceX, and on eventual SLS launches. Yet you keep believing that somehow NASA actually can, today, reach low-Earth orbit? Using what launch platform, you dumbass? They don't have any. And the Pentagon's launchers belong to the Pentagon, SpaceX and Blue Origin and a few other small launch operators are not owned or controlled by NASA. And SLS is probably 2-3 years away from launching anything despite the fact that their entire launch platform is based on those stupid solid boosters that the Shuttle used. And that was supposed to be a way to save money? Yet most big SLS launches will cost over a billion each. You could argue that NASA controls and funds SLS so NASA will finally pretty much own a launch platform if/when SLS flies. But Congress and the entire tech community increasingly want to defund SLS too as SpaceX keeps demonstrating that it can capably launch the scheduled SLS payloads to spec and at a small fraction of the cost that SLS (Boeing/Lockheed) were going to charge for those same launches. You really should read the Ars Technica articles on space launches. They do weekly updates on all the different platforms, have live launch videos, etc. It's probably the best space news site around nowadays; they want to capture the space nerds long-term and they have pretty much succeeded. ArsTechnica: Rocket Report: 9/27/19 More work to go ... "It's not certified for all of our most stressing national security space orbits," Gen. Thompson said. "We continue to work with SpaceX to mature their design, and I think that's going well." Launch vehicle systems are certified for specific mass and orbit combinations. Eventually, the Falcon Heavy is likely to be certified for all nine of the DOD reference orbits. (submitted by Ken the Bin and Unrulycow) At some point, I think Musk might just buy NASA. And Congress might just let him. The space nerds would likely all approve.
Can you tell me what you think is at stake here at LF? Let's assume you achieve your maximal goal: to convert every last contrarian old asshole at LF to all your CTs. You'd have a small cheering section for your CT nonsense. All 20 of them. And they aren't on Twitter or Fakebook so you can't even consider any of LF's readers to ever post anything anywhere else to advance your kookeries on any other website. With LF, there is no there there. Deckard faces the same problem with his stuff. The only people who believe are the same people who already believed the same CT material well before Deckard or you posted about your Latest Kook News. We shouldn't overestimate the reach of LF as a forum. It's just chitchat for 25 rightwing men over 50.
Ah.... no. If I was out with a group a guys having beers, and one stated out loud that... “ Rosie O’Donnell is the hottest, sexiest, bitch alive and he dreams night and day of her naked”... I wouldn’t let that just blow away. If he was a true friend, I’d stage a fucking intervention.
That’s impossible. Even a flat earther... can see that the moon is FUCKING ROUND... it’s funny how the government makes the flat moon appear round. lol
Just the fact that at night, you see a ROUND MOON... should start some critical thinking, outside of the government distrust. Unless you think the government is projecting that in the nights sky... to indoctrinate you. So, here is the million dollar question. If you were standing on the moon... and you looked at earth and noticed it was ROUND... would you believe your eyes?
Maybe - Gatlin might be a woman though. Anyways, as I was driving east this morning I watched a beautiful sunrise over Lake Huron and started thinking about this flat earth stuff. The sun appears to move across the sky from east to west, right? If the earth is flat, why doesn't the entire earth experience daylight the same way? Why is it nighttime on the other side of the world when it is daylight here?
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. Well, it could be round in profile but still just be a flat disk. The Freemasons might be involved, trying to make us think those flat disks are globes (a.k.a. planets). And the Jesuits are involved. And the Bildybergs. And the Illumnati. And maybe the Reptile People. Come to think of it, the only kook theory Liberator hasn't posted about here at LF is the Reptilians. The Atlantic: How to Spot the Reptilians Running the U.S. Government Yep, supposedly 12 million Americans think the world is run by lizard people. Here's an old clip from 2012 where comedian Louis CK asks Donald Rumsfeld about Reptilians on the Opie & Anthony show.
Well, he is very bitchy and does like to try to be emotionally manipulative. So you might be right. Well, as I understand it, most of them think the sun is much smaller and weaker than we are taught and it has kind of a directional light, like a flashlight. And it circles around the Flat Earth in a circle which makes it look like we're on a rotating globe that circles a star with the globe's rotation causing half of the globe to illuminated at once, resulting in a steadily moving day/night on the surface of the globe. Here's a picture of what most of them think the sun and moon are. Of course, they all seem to have their very own special theories about this and how it works. They get Very Angry if someone questions any of it. Here's a more animated version.
So, the moon is a huge fucking casino chip... or is it more like a gargantuan tuna can?
And when the Earth is between the Sun and the Moon, the Earth casts a shadow on the surface of the Moon, and the shadow is fucking CURVED, as in coming from a SPHERE.
I don’t think I’ve laughed this hard, from a LF thread, ever.
Well, it's already too late for Liberator to launch a Flat Sun theory. The Flat Sun Society is already around with websites, Fakebook pages, and videos.
Well...um...shit, I don't know. Trying to keep all these kook theories straight is too confusing. : )
Interesting. If the sun is flat, is it fucking hot on both sides, or just the side that faces the earth? So the sun is like a gigantic puck light?
I think they squabble over that, like a fight over religious doctrine. They also have this thing where, of course, the earth is under a big dome to hold all the air in and also to keep the water from all running off the edges of Antarctica - which is surrounding the entire Flat Earth - and so the dome must contain all the places that we can travel. They get into fights about whether the sun and the moon are both inside the dome or whether the moon is inside the dome but the sun is outside the dome. Think about that one for a while. AFAIK, Liberator has not indicated his position on whether the sun and moon are both inside the dome (or not). Here's another pic to illustrate: Please don't ask me questions like that. I can only tolerate so much dumbassery per day. LOL Just to cheer us up, here's another Flat Sun picture. It's from the Flat Sun Society.
I think I understand. God's name is Seneca Crane. His original intelligent design was the arena for the Hunger Games. That went so well in the first book that he upscaled it to create Earth. That was before the third book where Katniss shot an arrow into the dome, creating climate change and the end of the games. The end.
So, just so I understand, the earth is like a frisbee, in a Vintage Lady Schick hairdryer table lamp. Got it. Thanks.
I had previously been led to believe it was a space pizza made by a sky wizard. I have reached a new state of enlightenment.
That’s it... you solved it. If earth is like a “space pizza“, then the water doesn’t run over the edges... because of the CRUST. You’ll win the: Nobel Prize The Copley Medal Albert Einstein World Award of Science And the Wolf Foundation Prize
I think we've all lost at least one IQ point just from reading this thread. Millions of our neurons committed suicide rather than to be forced to parse and process even more stupidity. But maybe that is just letting the Flattards win, by wearing us down with their Monumental Stupidity until our brains are exhausted and we just mumble, "OK, whatever you say, just leave me alone." I'm going to have a sip of a quality cognac and try to forget about frisbees and Lady Schick hairdryers and flat objects in general. : )
Well well... I must say I'm amused and encouraged by how well the thread has gone. There has at least been some cursory contemplation, examination, and consideration of how the actual realm created by God might operate. And at least TooConservative now finally admits that NASA lies. (But not specifically the BIG LIE that NASA never landed on the Moon. And CAN'T.) Ergo, you still have NOT answered the bell. Btw -- "Low Earth Orbit" is considered 99 to 1200 mi. But THIS is the reality: NASA balloons can reach up to 120,000' beyond earth; THAT IS THE REAL "LOW EARTH ORBIT." (Yes, propelled over the Earth by...(drum roll: Nothing but Primitive NASA BALLOONS. No Virgina, there ARE no propelled "Satellites" orbiting Earth at 17,000 MPH. Sorry to burst your bubble.) NASA and SPACE X Rockets are all show. Their rockets are UN-MANNED, and blast off, eventually curving laterally...eventually crashing over water -- which is why ALL NASA and all "Space" complexes are located at Cape Canaveral and Houston. (where spash-downs of the Rocket corpses occur -- as well as the Gondola/Capsules float down via parachutes -- WITHOUT WITNESSES.) *DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.* Q: WHY WE CAN'T EVER LEAVE "LOW" EARTH ORBIT: The truth: The Bible speaks of a "Firmament" (or glass dome) within which He placed the stars, the Moon, AND the Sun.) Yes, this means there is NO "Outer Space" or "Billions of Light Years"; It also means both the Sun and Moon are necessarily very close to Earth; With similar diameters (proven by geometric calculations) to be approximately 30 miles. Again -- look at that balloon floating past the Moon. Magnification reveals the truth: IS real close. (Look up 'OPERATION DOMINIC'. It was a futile attempt to detonate nukes in order to "blast through" the Firmament. That's right -- WE CANNOT EVER LEAVE THIS REALM.) MOREOVER, as per Genesis account (and your own eyes) -- the Earth is FLAT, IMMOVABLE, and...a CIRCLE (Not a "BALL.") There is ZIP proof that either the Sun and Moon are anything BUT circles as well. We do not know whether they are "discs." (The "Dark Side" of the Moon?? No one has STILL seen "it." All we see of the Moon is the SAME markings . From no matter which part of Earth you look at it. A "Round" Sun, GI? And "round" MOON?? You mean...like a BALL?? How do we know that? Is it because you've been told that's the case since you were doing ca-ca in your over-filled diaper?? Is your "testimony" it based on "Science" books, Hollywood movies, Star Trek, and NASA- created CGI images and illustrations? https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/spaceimages/ https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/thestudio/ The Studio is a team of designers, artists, makers, strategists, and thinkers. We are passionate about helping scientists and engineers imagine the future, and giving people a sense of awe about the universe. You can dismiss 'Flat Earth' proofs all you want (while ignoring hundreds of them-- including your own eyes); But at the same time, we're all still getting bombarded and bamboozled by this fake matrix of civic, media, Hollywood, and scientific "reality" your Overlords have created. Put down the Schlitz tall-boy and...SNAP OUT OF IT.
Dedicated to NASA's true-believers and the Trekkies:
The sun appears to move across the sky from east to west, right? If the earth is flat, why doesn't the entire earth experience daylight the same way? Why is it nighttime on the other side of the world when it is daylight here? I'm not sure I understand the full context of your question. We know by personal observation that the Sun circles over earth along various paths depending on the time of year, obviously taking 24 hours to complete its circuit over the plane. THAT SAID... Your question does cause a very interesting further pause in the areas of earth which are receiving sunlight during a typical 24-hour day.... If (as we are told) the "globe" is perpetually spinning east at @1000 MPH, AND the sun (we are told) is stationary, wouldn't that mean almost the entire "globe" should be bathed in sunlight ALL the time?
No it wouldn't. The earth's circumference is 24,901 miles, which means an entire rotation takes 24 hours or one day. Why is it light on one side of the world and dark on the opposite side at the same moment?
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. That doesn't explain sunspots or the ensuing disruptions to satellite communications at certain times of the year, not to mention UV rays, suntanning and skin cancer. More shenanigans by NASA perhaps? (And furthermore, why do people use the phrase "not to mention..." and then go on to mention the items they were not going to mention?)
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. From what I have read, that operation was simply high altitude nuclear tests. When I did a search for "Operation Dominic", I stumbled across something called Operation Fishbowl That's right -- WE CANNOT EVER LEAVE THIS REALM. Bill Nye the Science Guy agrees. Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. In case you may have glossed over this video (and respective flagged time-markers), there are much pertinent information, analysis, official documentation, and awkward (for NASA) Balloon missions. This analysis provides at least one major motive for making the entire continent Antarctica and any trespassing of HUGE area south of 60 degrees a strictly verboten "NO-GO" area. One obvious Reason: It is a staging area and base for hiding NASA Balloon/Satellite departures, aka "Launches." If you watch (please stay with it -- it'll open your eyes), you will learn the fascinating air force protocols and techniques for launching, monitoring and capturing these NASA Balloons; Technical information; and video. IMPORTANT: This proves without a shadow of doubt that the "fuel" of actual NASA "Satellite Launches" is Helium, and the medium, BALLOONS. Need "proof"? The author of this video provides a copy of the official log of names of the Balloons/Satellites BY DATE and Project name that were launched. Including the one name you should recognize: 'MIR'. You remember it, right? MIR was called an "INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION". Check out the logs from 1997-2002. MIR was launched VIA BALLOON. It was also supplied VIA BALLOONS. No, NOT via "Rocket Ships." (see docs under "Payloads" at 44:55 and onward.) Why else should this cited official log and references of 'MIR' to the Balloon log be extremely fascinating? Let's refer to NASA's "facts": ... Adding modules over the years, and then sometimes rearranging them, the Russians had built the strangest, biggest structure ever seen in outer space. Traveling at an average speed of 17,885 mph, the space station orbited about 250 miles above the Earth. SOURCE: NASA History https://history.nasa.gov/SP-4225/mir/mir.htm FACT: 1) I think we can all agree that Balloon can NOT soar 250 miles above the Earth. 2) As already mentioned and cited, "Low Earth Orbit" is defined as between "99 miles and 1200 miles", true and actual "Low Earth Orbit" is considerably less. If NASA's Balloons are only able to attain altitudes of up to 120,000 or 140,000 feet, isn't that actually closer to say 25 miles?? 3) This also obviously means 'MIR' was certainly NOT "traveling at an average speed of 17,885 mph" as NASA stated.
When I did a search for "Operation Dominic", I stumbled across something called Operation Fishbowl Yes, and THAT ("high altitude") is exactly how the Dominic mission would understandably be described to the public. In truth, it really was indeed a "high altitude test." But to "test" exactly what? (THE FIRMAMENT, aka God's Dome.) The Soviets also tried their best as well during the 1950s. THEY ALL KNOW THE TRUTH. Other non-mainstream sources tell the real truth for the reason behind that insane mission. "Dominic = Dominion of God". They knew what it was. And tried to crash through His Dome/Firmament. Yup, Fishbowl was another bizarre experiment/mission/attempt to crack the Firmament/Dome and escape beyond.... Were the true intentions divulged, it would justifiably evoke incredulity and uber-raised eyebrows, wouldn't it? I'd also seen Bill Nye's statement. It's strange, isn't it? NOT because it's true, but because he's been one of the public faces of shilling for Establishment's Fake Science Op.
The surface of the Nile -- like all water and oceans IS flat. It's bottom slopes. Rivers flow because its water-mass pushes it...where it finally seeks and finds its ultimate level. In the case of the Nile, The Mediterranean Sea. In the case of the Great Lakes, Niagara Falls and St. Lawrence River -- the Atlantic Ocean. And so forth.
Congratulations! In a sea of TooConservative's abject absurdity and hyperbolic turds, you've succeeded in staining LF with a top 5 all-time stupid post. This gaslighting technique of yours and censorship crusade -- how's that working out for you? Your lame derision and mockery of those who have looong exposed the Rockefellerians/Jesuits/Bilderberg/Illuminati/Freemasons/CFR elites for what they are -- actual dark, subversive organizations and entities intent in ushering their dystopic One World Government -- no longer works. That BS may have worked 10 years ago. The truth about those orgs and their like-minded agenda to control EVERYTHING is out there all over the place, exposed for the world to see (much to your chagrin, frustration, and futile efforts to support censorship and to restrict sharing free knowledge.) THE GALL OF TRUTH SEEKERS!! How dare we! This collective of Global/Elites (as you named some of them) are openly and actively changing this world for the worst with their Globalist NWO agenda. Even YOU know it... So calm down. It's ok to surrender and refrain from your cartoonish portrayal and lies that these elite orgs are just benign, phantom organizations, the victims of unfounded paranoia from "CTs".
Btw, have you contemplated and understood THE ramifications regarding the Nile River? If its surface is FLAT for its entire 3,000 miles, that means there is absolutely NO earth curvature (as we are told should be the case) for 3,000 miles. There's no refuting this. The reason a barge is used to videotape and document the trip along the river is so the result can't be faked.
("If (as we are told) the 'globe' is perpetually spinning east at @1000 MPH, AND the sun (we are told) is stationary, wouldn't that mean almost the entire "globe" should be bathed in sunlight ALL the time?") No it wouldn't. The earth's circumference is 24,901 miles, which means an entire rotation takes 24 hours or one day. Yes, I agree. This is in accordance to the Scientists' "Spinning Globe Earth" theory AND Earth-revolves-around-the-Sun" theory. Why is it light on one side of the world and dark on the opposite side at the same moment? Because it takes @24 hours for the Sun to shine to perpetually rotate in a circuit over the entire face of the Earth. AND, because the Sun is local and NOT 93,000 million miles away.
That doesn't explain sunspots or the ensuing disruptions to satellite communications at certain times of the year, not to mention UV rays, suntanning and skin cancer. TC's understanding of the Sun's short (local) distance from Earth by Flat Earthers and Bible-Earther literalists is correct. As to just what "sun spots" are, there ARE interesting theories as you might assume. Regarding "disruptions to satellite comms"? Electro-magnetic interference is a primary theory. UV rays? Dunno if its possible to explain the composition and dynamics of some things. Like the Sun AND Moon. Theories? Of course. (And furthermore, why do people use the phrase "not to mention..." and then go on to mention the items they were not going to mention?) Maybe...For the same reason, "Furthermore", "Moreover," and, "I-forget-to-include-this" are used.
I enjoy using "It goes without saying". You have to give them hope that you won't be saying anything more on that topic but then can stare them in the eyes as they slowly realize it was just a ploy. : )
"Needless to say..." ;-)
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#24. To: sneakypete (#15)
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Where does all the ocean water go at low tide?
#25. To: Tooconservative, GrandIsland (#23)
I think Liberator needs a new gig, something novel.
#26. To: Tooconservative (#22)
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(TC SPAMMING NONSENSE)
#27. To: Tooconservative (#22)
"...meaningless chitchat forums like LF..."
#28. To: Liberator (#26)
HOW did NASA land men on the Moon 50 years ago...BUT NOW ADMITS IT CAN'T LEAVE LOW EARTH ORBIT? Ergo, CAN'T RETURN TO THE MOON?
This is how SpaceX just keeps stealing payloads from cancelled SLS launches and expanding the launches it is qualified to perform, all without any real competitors. Everyone else just talks while Musk launches stuff and makes it look easy. Falcon Heavy rocket is now fully certified. Now that the Falcon Heavy rocket built by SpaceX has flown three flights, it is "fully certified" for Air Force missions. However, work remains to make the vehicle eligible to fly missions to all of the Department of Defense's reference orbits, Lt. Gen. John Thompson, commander of the Air Force Space and Missile Systems Center, told SpaceNews.
#29. To: Liberator (#27)
Is this my problem...OR YOURS?
#30. To: Liberator (#21)
I found it strange that for such a wacky, absurd subject, it was being too heavily censored and overly ridiculed. Especially now. IF it's so ridiculous, it should just blow away on its own, right?
#31. To: Tooconservative (#23)
How about Flat Moon theory?
#32. To: Liberator (#21)
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#33. To: Tooconservative, Liberator (#29)
We shouldn't overestimate the reach of LF as a forum. It's just chitchat for 25 rightwing men over 50.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#34. To: GrandIsland (#32)
So, here is the million dollar question. If you were standing on the moon... and you looked at earth and noticed it was ROUND... would you believe your eyes?
#35. To: Deckard (#33)
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Maybe - Gatlin might be a woman though.
Anyways, as I was driving east this morning I watched a beautiful sunrise over Lake Huron and started thinking about this flat earth stuff. The sun appears to move across the sky from east to west, right? If the earth is flat, why doesn't the entire earth experience daylight the same way? Why is it nighttime on the other side of the world when it is daylight here?
#36. To: Tooconservative (#34)
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Well, it could be round in profile but still just be a flat disk.
#37. To: GrandIsland, Tooconservative (#31)
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Even a flat earther... can see that the moon is FUCKING ROUND... it’s funny how the government makes the flat moon appear round.
#38. To: nolu chan (#37)
and the shadow is fucking CURVED, as in coming from a SPHERE.
#39. To: GrandIsland, Liberator (#23)
How about Flat Moon theory? Or Flat Mars theory? Or even Flat Sun theory? Or is it all just a conspiracy to make us believe that only the Earth is FLAT?
#40. To: GrandIsland (#36)
So, the moon is a huge fucking casino chip... or is it more like a gargantuan tuna can?
#41. To: Tooconservative (#39)
to launch a Flat Sun theory.
#42. To: GrandIsland (#41)
Interesting. If the sun is flat, is it fucking hot on both sides, or just the side that faces the earth?
So the sun is like a gigantic puck light?
#43. To: Tooconservative (#42)
Here's another pic to illustrate:
#44. To: nolu chan, Tooconservative (#43)
#45. To: GrandIsland (#44)
#46. To: nolu chan (#45)
I had previously been led to believe it was a space pizza made by a sky wizard. I have reached a new state of enlightenment.
#47. To: GrandIsland (#44)
So, just so I understand, the earth is like a frisbee, in a Vintage Lady Schick hairdryer table lamp.
#48. To: Tooconservative, GrandIsland, Deckard, Nolu Chan (#47)
#49. To: All (#48)
#50. To: Deckard (#33)
I was driving east this morning I watched a beautiful sunrise over Lake Huron and started thinking about this flat earth stuff.
#51. To: Liberator (#50)
If (as we are told) the "globe" is perpetually spinning east at @1000 MPH, AND the sun (we are told) is stationary, wouldn't that mean almost the entire "globe" should be bathed in sunlight ALL the time?
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#52. To: Tooconservative (#35)
Well, as I understand it, most of them think the sun is much smaller and weaker than we are taught and it has kind of a directional light, like a flashlight.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#53. To: Liberator (#48)
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(Look up 'OPERATION DOMINIC'. It was a futile attempt to detonate nukes in order to "blast through" the Firmament
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#54. To: Liberator, TooConservative, A K A Stone, Hank Rearden, Deckard, Watchman, GrandIsland, nolu chan, Pinguinite, All 25 Posters at LF, Undetermined Lurkers (#8)
#55. To: Deckard (#53)
From what I have read, that operation was simply high altitude nuclear tests.
#56. To: A K A Stone (#13)
If the earth was flat and the Nile was flat the river wouldn't flow. No rivers would flow.
#57. To: Tooconservative (#34)
The Freemasons might be involved, trying to make us think those flat disks are globes (a.k.a. planets). And the Jesuits are involved. And the Bildybergs. And the Illumnati. And maybe the Reptile People.
#58. To: A K A Stone (#13)
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#59. To: Deckard (#51)
#60. To: Deckard, TooConservative (#52)
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(TC: "Well, as I understand it, most of them think the sun is much smaller and weaker than we are taught and it has kind of a directional light, like a flashlight.")
#61. To: Liberator (#60)
Maybe...For the same reason, "Furthermore", "Moreover," and, "I-forget-to-include-this" are used.
#62. To: Tooconservative (#61)
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