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Title: RAW FOOTAGE: Balloon, aka NASA "Satellite" Floats Across Full Moon
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URL Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAfdkWy0QtE&feature=youtu.be
Published: Feb 3, 2018
Author: Flat Earth Dude
Post Date: 2019-09-28 17:41:37 by Liberator
Keywords: NASA, Satellite, Balloon
Views: 31201
Comments: 184
(Video taken through a Nikon P900 camera)
Poster Comment: Cool! Great shot of the Moon as well. (Sure doesn't seem like it's 239,000 miles away.) So.... is balloon technology how NASA really photographs earth? It appears they are able to attach an equipment gondola to the Balloon...and let 'er rip into Low Earth Orbit. One also wonders if "Astronauts" are actually embedded into a special Balloon gondola instead what's depicted in those dodgy "ISS" shots. Orbital velocity is the velocity needed to achieve balance between gravity's pull on the satellite and the inertia of the satellite's motion -- the satellite's tendency to keep going. This is approximately 17,000 mph (27,359 kph) at an altitude of 150 miles (242 kilometers). Without gravity, the satellite's inertia would carry it off into space. Moving juuuust a bit slower than 17,000 MPH. Source: 'HOW STUFF WORKS' https://science.howstuffworks.com/satellite6.htm
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#101. To: Tooconservative (#88)
Clever bastids,ain't dey? They ain't fooled weuns,tho!
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
And you know this because...We've been taught this for 100 years in our "Science" book? "Science" is TESTED. The "floating" demonstrations you see on the ISS are sloppy pull-wires, CGI, and other tricks that are DOCUMENTED. The entire Space X and Car/Musk stunt with the car was matted on a CGI background. Because it was LIVE, the techs didn't react immediately to it (didn't you watch the video I posted??) You're funny.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
It's now widely regarded as the most effective car advertising gimmick in the history of advertising. Musk managed to use both of his major companies, Tesla and SpaceX, to cross-promote each other in a unique and unprecedented way. Musk said it had an added benefit of expanding the ideas of what we can launch into space and do in space. Which is his mission in life. He does have a knack for this stuff. Like when he sold his Not A Flamethrower flamethrowers. He skirted legal niceties and sold 20,000 for $500 each, all on pre-order in five days. He could have sold a few million of them if he'd wanted to. I don't doubt they'll become collectibles. Nice way to net $10 million in sales without even trying, all based on a throwaway joke tweet by Musk. Someone called him on it and he decided to take the challenge and had his engineers crank out a design in only a few days. After some testing and legal work, Musk shipped them only a few months later. TheVerge: I have a Boring Company Not-A-Flamethrower Yeah, you could just buy/build a weedburner which is about what they are. But Musk's is a lot more fun because it comes in a gun-like format to make your neighbors a little nervous.
Since 1996, Neil Degrasse Tyson has been the Frederick P. Rose Director of the Hayden Planetarium at the Rose Center for Earth and Space in New York City. All your life, you have been a sniveling asshole.
He IS just the face, a "salesman" for the Tesla, Space X, the entire "We be going to Mars soon!!" teenage wet-dream -- on that we agree. (Though there's no way any of what is presented as his "ideas" and "invention" are his; nor the financing of such expensive projects.)
Would you like to have an actual debate of facts regarding eclipses -- or would you rather engage in presenting one's case (punctuated by this kind of childishness?) Hey -- it's not MY fault you regard the dubious showman McD Grasse so highly.
True enough. He does have a degree in astrophysics. But his day job is running a planetarium projector for the stoners and talking politics at night for the Dems on CNN & MSNBC. He has the degree but no one is offering him a real job as a working astrophysicist. Tyson is an affirmative action astrophysicist; I think his entire career can be summed up by observing: he's black. I don't think he could be even be considered a fairly serious astronomer, like Carl Sagan for instance. Whether you liked his politics or not, Sagan was a real brain and was a force in astronomy and astrophysics for about 50 years. I'm not sure even Hawking was ever so influential as Sagan. Bill Nye is another supposed science authority. He got a BS in mechanical engineering at Cornell, worked for some years at Boeing before trying his hand at comedy. That led to his gig at PBS for a puny 5 years on his own show. Then, when those late-Nineties kids grew up, Netflix hired him as a familiar face from the childhood of the Millennials and gave him a show to preach global hotting to them based on that previously established reputation from their childhoods. Just because Sagan and Hawking are gone doesn't make Tyson and Nye into real scientists. They're no more impressive now than they ever were, maybe less so since they've graduated to using their fame to pretend they have expertise outside of fields in which they hold degrees. And they do that on a regular basis.
The Falcon Heavy which sent his car into a near-Mars orbit was entirely capable of going to Mars. The car was not sent to Mars because that would have required a full upper-stage with all the propulsion and thrusters and communications and computers. Musk was only after the initial certification so he could then pursue the nine different types of Pentagon launch contracts. Which is what he is doing. His big rocket, Starship, a rocket capable of launching 30-40 Tesla cars to Mars could make its first run to Mars as soon as 2022. And then return and land on Earth under its own power. When Musk starts flying Starship, the Flat people are going to find it very hard to deny the reality of outer space. There will simply be too much evidence, too many ways for amateur astronomers to see and track these stainless steel spaceships. Musk did get a lot of early venture capital from his buddy Sergei Brin at Google. Musk was producing real products in demand unlike Google with its creepy Google Glass and other spying tech so Musk was a good investment, even as just a write-off to avoid paying taxes. But Musk's success with SpaceX is so considerable that he really doesn't need Google's money any more. Musk's estimated worth is now $19 billion. But he bet everything he had on SpaceX and the first Falcon launch. He would have been almost dead broke if it had failed because Musk spent all the money he made from Paypal on SpaceX. Musk is getting ready to launch his low-earth internet constellation to blanket the earth in internet access. It's called Starlink and will consist of ~7,500 satellites in low-earth orbit. And they will all be launched on SpaceX Falcon 9 rockets. He launched the first 60, as a test, in May 2019 and it was a perfect deployment, as tracked by radar from Earth. I watched it in real time, as I and many other space nerds watch everything SpaceX launches and deploys. Musk is undoubtedly the greatest industrialist of the 21st century. He is likely to become the greatest entrepreneur of the 21st century except Bezos (currently #1) saw where Musk was going and the vast fortunes to be made in space so Bezos started Blue Origin to build big rockets, just to frustrate Musk and try to deny him that top dog status. Musk vs. Bezos? I say Musk unless Bezos really found his own von Braun. And no one thinks he did 'cause all the real talent wants to work for Musk.
No, I do not desire to debate your insanity. Your bull shit deserves no respect, and will receive none from me.
Yes, the Hayden Planetarium has a staff one one and he runs the projector. Yes. Dr. Neil Degrasse Tyson "has a degree" as you put it. Actually, the Dr. appellation infers he has more than one degree. The schools were Harvard and Columbia. He has a bachelor's in physics from Harvard, and a Doctorate in astrophysics from Columbia. He does not run the projector. Dr. Tyson is "director of the Hayden Planetarium and worked on an extensive renovation of the facility, assisting with its design and helping raise the necessary funds. The $210 million project was completed in 2000, and the revamped site offered visitors a cutting-edge look at astronomy." If you feel a flat earth idiot is more knowledgeable about flat earth than a guy with a doctorate in astrophysics, well bless your heart. Carry on and don't let me disturb your intellectual search for truth on Youtube, or flat earth threads on LF. Good luck with the effort of you and Liberator to weigh the car of Elon Musk in space.
I think there is nothing especially outstanding about Tyson's career. Certainly, he is more of a celebrity than astrophysicist like Sagan was for many years. And Tyson, like Nye, get a steady bit of attention from the libmedia outlets and they make statements on political matters as part of their public persona. And I don't think the West will fall to Flat Earther drivel any time soon. If anything, the public consensus against Flat Earth ideas are stronger as a result.
Elon Musk does more to educate people against Flat Earth ideas than almost anyone. You can't argue with all those launches and the new satellites in orbit. It is a reason why Musk seems to be hated by the Flat Earther types. Musk's goals are to make space launches an order of magnitude less expensive. Musk wants lots more space launches and space travel. So the best way for Musk to achieve that is to drive the costs down considerably with reusable rockets. There are millions of Americans who see these launches and see the first-stage launchers return and land some minutes later. Musk has launched on the West Coast too.
Musk is actually capable of creating technology companies as a real entrepreneur. He does things. He really wants to change the way Americans think about space by cutting launch costs to a small fraction of what they have been for decades. SpaceX reusable rockets are a revolutionary change in the launch business. Everyone is realizing that SpaceX is gobbling up the launch market and getting ready to dominate the heavier launches like Pentagon satellites with Falcon Heavy rockets. Musk is a major disruptive force in the launch industry. Some of the competition like the EU space agency are looking to make their own reusable rockets. So are the China, India, etc. Russia seems to have announced recently that they're going to build another 10 Proton launchers, probably trying to keep those assembly lines open. Proton is based on their old 1965 design, nothing modern about it. Their new Angara rockets are upcoming, including crew versions. None have reusable rockets so the launch costs will be much higher than Musk's.
That's HUGE,and I don't care who you are or what standards you pretend to hold. Anybody that claims it isn't huge is a clueless fool that needs to be ignored.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
That is not like you,but I can't blame you on this one. When someone won't even believe their own eyes because they think they are lying,you just have to give up.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
I guess DISH and DIRECTV hang their satellites from the dome of the firmament.
Musk may/probably will,go down in the history books as "The Henry Ford of Space Travel". And he will deserve it.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Naw,they use crop dusters flying around in circles.
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Well, you don't get very consistent answers if you ask the Flat Earthers whether the moon and the sun are 1) inside the dome or 2) outside the dome or 3) the moon is inside the dome and the sun is outside the dome. Apparently the Flatters think that satellites, if not a complete NASA deception, are nothing more than big dirigible balloons that fly around the upper atmosphere of the flat earth. So they think that the Directv/DISH satellites are actually big balloons that mimic the behavior and the position in the sky of a satellite. So they might even be seen by telescopes from Earth and even appear at precalculated positions of the sky but that doesn't mean anything; it just means that NASA's deception is so cunningly constructed that the fake satellites/dirigibles do mimic the sky position of the satellite they are pretending to be. But of course they're all just fake NASA dirigibles, not actual satellites. There is no way to soften the implications of such a belief system. It's just so fundamentally wrong that it is tragic.
TC, believe it or not I will give you points for at least attempting to frame the Flat Earth/Firmament Realm & paradigm (or as you put it, "Belief System") within the scope of honesty. In your defense, for those who've grown up marinated in the "Space Race-John Glenn-Moon Landings" years (or, having worked for any government institution -- AND still trust them), the far less likely it is that you will more accepting of changing gears and re-considering the possibility (or strong probability) that our reality is not as we've been told. I'll address your skepticism separately. AS BULLET POINTS. a) "You don't get very consistent answers [from] Flat Earthers" TRUE. That's because "Flat Earthers" are not monolithic in belief. They may be comprised of both Christians AND Atheists; May base fundamental beliefs on the Bible, Science, Common Sense, Observations, or overlapping; The one consensus: Governments, "Authoritahs" and "Science" Communitah LIE. b) There are "inconsistent answers" from Flat Earthers on "whether the moon and the sun are 1) inside the dome or 2) outside the dome or 3) the moon is inside the dome and the sun is outside the dome." TRUE. There is no consensus on these assertions. Again, these answers coincide on whether the individual "Flat Earther" relies on Scripture for support of cosmological placement. c) "Apparently the Flatters think that satellites, if not a complete NASA deception...nothing more than big dirigible balloons that fly around the upper atmosphere of the flat earth." TRUE. I'd posted the same video assessment and revelations that actually document the NASA deceptions (SEE ABOVE, Post #54) which actually have and still do launch and use giants Balloons (no, NOT "dirigibles") for Satellites propulsion and monitoring of Earth. But only from Low Earth Orbit. Documented: "Space Stations" like Mir were launched and propelled via Balloons/"Gondola." The extent and degree of past & present NASA deception, fraud, and hoaxing has not been difficult at all to document and prove. d) "They think that the Directv/DISH satellites are actually big balloons that mimic the behavior and the position in the sky of a satellite." True (in a sense) Communication "Satellites" are nothing but very high "substitute communications towers" which are local and NOT "spinning around the globe at 17,000 MPH" (the speed which is most documented as necessary to maintain earth orbit). The medium of the vast majority of "Direct TV/DISH"-type communications and reception remain those fancy phone and communications towers you see everywhere -- including atop the highest buildings. e) "NASA's deception is so cunningly constructed that the fake satellites/dirigibles do mimic the sky position of the satellite they are pretending to be." Building "Satellite Dishes" are pointed in a particular direction OF A PARTICULAR TOWER according to one's geographical position -- and set in parallel positions. NOT "straight up into the sky." The Dish on your roof is certainly NOT constantly tracing a moving "Space Satellite" either. (Q: Exactly which direction in the sky would your roof Satellite Dish be pointed if "Space Satellites" are allegedly orbiting the globe at 17,000 MPH? How would that work when your specific particular Satellite is on THE OTHER SIDE OF EARTH OVER CHINA?) There is no way to soften the implications of such a belief system. It's just so fundamentally wrong that it is tragic. Once one connects the huge dots and learns the truth about NASA, "science," and our actual realm, the very same thoughts occur to us. Except that your undying beliefs and loyalty to institutions don't enrage and trigger us.
Speaking of someone, "believing their "own eyes," if it's on Tee-Bee, are you really sure you can? HAVE YOU HEARD OF, Deep Fake? We are told this is OLD tech: Do you realize how scary-close today high-tech CGI software simulates "reality" now is? Check out this 3 year old CGI "space" software for beginners and intermediate users down below. It's called Blender. Can you imagine the 2019-2020 Blender version for expert Users?? Space VFX Elements Video Course for Blender:
Certainly all of us have our strengths and weaknesses in comprehension of various subjects and things. I know I have my weaknesses, so I can empathize with others who have them, even if they are weak in areas I'm strong in. TC, I remember you posting that photo that showed one of the Apollo landing sites from the lander with the earth hugely lit behind it on the horizon. I pretty much knew immediately it was doctored as the earth wouldn't be on the horizon for any Apollo mission, and the shadows didn't match earth's spherical illumination. Earth was also way too detailed for the cameras they had back then. It was a beautiful shot designed for desktop backgrounds, but was not real. That stood out to me but not to yourself, I suppose, and others. Certainly you're better than me in other areas. Then there is at least one person on this site for whom it is not possible for police to ever commit a sin. It could be said that that person suffers from a form of "dyscalculia" related to police. I'm sure many of us would say similar for those with "Trump derangement syndrome" because they cannot fathom Trump ever doing anything good. Another person here is a baseball, hot dogs and apple pie version of the worst of head-chopping ISIS members, yet still professes Christianity. I've said before and say again, My theory is that people have an overwhelming ability to believe things even if they are completely untrue. Liberator, whom I still do like and respect, believing the earth is flat is a validation of that theory, which I've subscribed to even before I read of his stating his belief. It's the same reason why most people's religious beliefs reflect that of their parents, no matter what the faith is-- Christianity, Judaim, Islam, Buddism, Hinduism or even Atheism. If it were otherwise then we'd see religious beliefs homogenously spread throughout the world, but we don't. Entire countries are by and large one faith, and remain so from one generation to the next. So.... that's okay. It's the old cliche. Do you/we accept people who see the world differently than we do? Or do we make a big stink about it and call them stupid? The old saying comes to mind, which I like: And when you think about that quote, it inescapably means that all of us are fools. The only difference is that some of us know it, and some of us don't.
The statement I heard was, I believe, taken out of context.
We shouldn't call Liberator "stupid"...that's a harsh word. How about gullible, that's better. Are you a fool, Pinguinite? I don't think so, except when it comes to God. It seems you can't use your excellent logic to bring yourself to a sufficient understanding of God.
Pinguinite used to profess to be a christian.
What happened to him, that he would turn away from the love that is in Christ?
I cannot find that thread now, not sure if it was deleted. Perhaps it was on a thread that was off-topic and hijacked into Moonbattery. And I do not concede that those very famous photos were not taken on the moon. What I recall is that there are a lot of people who don't seem to understand the small size and scale of the moon in general and particularly how that difference from Earth's size leads to things that would be anomalies. Except the moon is 250K miles away, 1/6 the mass of the earth, distance to the horizon on the moon is about half the distance to horizon on Earth, etc. I would also point out that the most famous of the Apollo photos of Earth was the one from Apollo 8 which showed the earth rising over the horizon as Apollo 8 came around the moon, a picture known ever since as Earthrise. (Apollo 8 was the main flyby of the moon, testing the Apollo system for suitability in a moon landing during Apollo 11.) Of course, you can choose to believe the moon landings were all faked, that they were filmed by Stanley Kubrick as propaganda on a sound stage, etc. But that doesn't make it true. Well, it is a fundamental question and not just one of manners or humoring people who are mentally deficient. Is 1+1=2 just an opinion? Is the Flat Earth just an opinion? Are the value of vaccination programs in public health just an opinion? Are the cargo cults of primitive tribes worshiping modern aircraft that fly over their jungles just another opinion? Is a square any different from a circle? Or is that just another opinion? There is a big difference between humoring someone and agreeing with them. And humoring people disputing the most basic science/math facts can lead to tragic results, usually for them but sometimes for others. If you're just saying that truth doesn't matter at all if it might hurt someone's feelings, then you should just come out and say that.
Gullible might apply. But I would say it applies to people who believe the earth is either flat or only 6000 years old. Or that God would condemn souls to hell for all eternity because their physical brains didn't somehow have recorded within them in some biochemical way some notion of Jesus being the son of God. How logical is it that one would face an eternity in hell because a Christian who was supposed to share the gospel 2 days before the person died in an accident? You have your explanation for how that is just and okay. And Liberator has his explanation for how the earth is flat. Stone has his explanation for the earth only being 6k years old.... we all have explanations for what we believe, but that does not make them true. I say God is better than that. And with the model I subscribe to, he is. All falls in place very very well. The model of God that you 3 subscribe to does, I say, sell God short. Or maybe I'm just gullible too. Well, no "maybe" about it. Everyone of us is gullible, in one way or another. We are all fools, in the end.
It's here somewhere, but even I'd have trouble finding it. It was 2 real photos, one of the earth and one from Apollo that were merged together. But the shadows of rocks on the moon showed the sun was to the left of the camera, while the earth illumination made it clear the sun was behind the camera. No biggie though. It was a beautiful picture, and no one says that art cannot be done in such ways, and all paintings could be said to be "fake" in not conveying reality accurately. In all you listed, I believe vaccinations do convey immunity. I also believe they have killed people. You list it among other things that suggest not advocating vaccines is kookery. Well, it depends on what things you consider facts. The truth does certainly matter. Even if our perception of it is inaccurate. Confusion is part of life.
Why can't the Earth be only 6000 years old? Don't tell me you believe in evolution, too. You should spend some time pondering the impossible complexities of a cow's udder...you would never, ever believe in evolution again!
Because that person WANTS to spend eternity in hell. That person does not want to be with God...so He sends them to the place He created for Lucifer. Very simple actually.
No it isn't true because I believe it. It is what a critical look at the evidence says. How were fossils formed on the scale they are unless buried in mud very quickly all over the earth. If there was no great flood there would be no fossil record that we have today.
I think Google has hid the search results and buried them for this site. I used to be to find my song parody about burning the Koran. I can't find it with google anymore. It used to be the number one search result with the key words I would find it with. Now nothing.
Why can't the universe be as old as it is big? Do you doubt the speed of light is what science says it is? Is the furthest object away no more than 6000 light years distant? You choose.... **we**... choose to believe what we want. And that which we choose to believe, we call truth. For me, it is illogical to believe that God created a universe/earth just 6000 years ago and made it look like it was far older. Christianity teaches God is not the "author of deception". Well, if He made the universe look older than it is, that would be pretty deceiving. As for evolution, it explains a lot and I have no problem with it. But it's not compatible with your version of truth.
Or because they never heard the gospel because some Christian failed to do as ordered. Or because that person was born in a pure Islamic culture and died at 6 years old, having never heard about Jesus. Yes, very simple.
God created a finished universe. The speed of light doesn't disprove anything. However the amount of dust on the moon proves without doubt that the earth is young and not billions or even millions of years old. Or did I read that you think that is a hoax? I honestly don't remember. I know liberator believes such nonsense.
You should study the Bible more and you would know this. For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: 15Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;) Now that you know this you should revise your thinking and not use this as an excuse to not believe in God anymore. Yes I said believe in God. Believing in a hypnotist carnival act is not believing in God.
Why wouldn't you have a problem with something that can't be duplicated in the lab. Something with no evidence. If there is evidence you should share it. Something that has never been witnessed but would be witnessed if it was happening. There are no new species evolving. A peach tree is always a peach tree and never changes into anything else. All the other species 100 percent of the time produce after like kind and have never been shown to produce a new or different species. So frankly people who believe in evolution are kind of dumb. Maybe not dumb in all ways but certainly dumb on the fairy tale of evolution. It is bullshit and you should know better because you are smart generally speaking.
It isn't so simple. I should have put that a couple posts above. But it really isn't that simple since you ommited what I quoted from scripture. What is simple though. Jesus is either a liar or telling the truth. I say he is telling the truth. You can call him a liar if you want the choice is always yours.
How is that deception? How else could He create time and space unless He actually selected a time as to how His creation would look? Adam and Eve were created to be a certain age, and again, how is that deception? When God made the universe it didn't look older than it is...it looked brand spanking new...the universe had not yet "fallen" through man's sin.
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#102. To: Liberator (#96)
Space" "floated a car in space" because everything in space is weightless.
#103. To: sneakypete (#100)
That car,with the fake-suited astronaut behind the wheel,HAS to be THE coolest thing ever launched into space.
#104. To: Liberator (#89)
#105. To: sneakypete (#100)
Nobody can doubt the genius of Musk as a salesman.
#106. To: nolu chan (#104)
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All your life, you have been a sniveling asshole.
#107. To: nolu chan (#104)
Since 1996, Neil Degrasse Tyson has been the Frederick P. Rose Director of the Hayden Planetarium at the Rose Center for Earth and Space in New York City.
#108. To: Liberator (#105)
He IS just the face, a "salesman" for the Tesla, Space X, the entire "We be going to Mars soon!!" teenage wet-dream -- on that we agree.
(Though there's no way any of what is presented as his "ideas" and "invention" are his; nor the financing of such expensive projects.)
#109. To: Liberator (#106)
Would you like to have an actual debate of facts regarding eclipses
#110. To: Tooconservative (#108)
But his day job is running a planetarium projector
He has the degree
#111. To: nolu chan (#110)
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If you feel a flat earth idiot is more knowledgeable about flat earth than a guy with a doctorate in astrophysics, well bless your heart. Carry on and don't let me disturb your intellectual search for truth on Youtube, or flat earth threads on LF.
#112. To: nolu chan (#110)
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Good luck with the effort of you and Liberator to weigh the car of Elon Musk in space.
#113. To: sneakypete (#100)
Nobody can doubt the genius of Musk as a salesman.
#114. To: Tooconservative (#108)
His big rocket, Starship, a rocket capable of launching 30-40 Tesla cars to Mars could make its first run to Mars as soon as 2022. And then return and land on Earth under its own power.
#115. To: nolu chan (#109)
No, I do not desire to debate your insanity. Your bull shit deserves no respect, and will receive none from me.
#116. To: Tooconservative (#112)
Elon Musk does more to educate people against Flat Earth ideas than almost anyone.
#117. To: Tooconservative, nolu chan (#112)
Elon Musk does more to educate people against Flat Earth ideas than almost anyone. You can't argue with all those launches and the new satellites in orbit. It is a reason why Musk seems to be hated by the Flat Earther types. Musk's goals are to make space launches an order of magnitude less expensive. Musk wants lots more space launches and space travel. So the best way for Musk to achieve that is to drive the costs down considerably with reusable rockets.
#118. To: nolu chan (#116)
I guess DISH and DIRECTV hang their satellites from the dome of the firmament.
#119. To: nolu chan (#116)
I guess DISH and DIRECTV hang their satellites from the dome of the firmament.
#120. To: Tooconservative, nolu chan (#119)
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Nolu: ("I guess DISH and DIRECTV hang their satellites from the dome of the firmament.")
#121. To: sneakypete, Tooconservative, A K A Stone, Deckard, ALL (#115)
When someone won't even believe their own eyes because they think they are lying,you just have to give up.
#122. To: Tooconservative, Liberator (#10)
[I thought Neil might like these videos; the first vlogger shows his test for dyscalculia based on an aircraft flight plan and says that no Flattard has managed to pass it with only a few even willing to try to. It reminded me of Neil's posts about aircraft flight plans on some old flat earth threads here at LF.]
A fool thinks himself wise, but a wise man knows he is a fool.
#123. To: Liberator (#20)
FACT: Given NASA's own "Scientists" admit" "WE CAN'T LEAVE LOW EARTH ORBIT" (But they're "working on it!").
#124. To: Pinguinite, Liberator (#122)
Or do we make a big stink about it and call them stupid?
#125. To: watchman (#124)
#126. To: A K A Stone (#125)
Pinguinite used to profess to be a christian.
#127. To: Pinguinite (#122)
TC, I remember you posting that photo that showed one of the Apollo landing sites from the lander with the earth hugely lit behind it on the horizon. I pretty much knew immediately it was doctored as the earth wouldn't be on the horizon for any Apollo mission, and the shadows didn't match earth's spherical illumination. Earth was also way too detailed for the cameras they had back then. It was a beautiful shot designed for desktop backgrounds, but was not real. That stood out to me but not to yourself, I suppose, and others. Certainly you're better than me in other areas.
So.... that's okay. It's the old cliche. Do you/we accept people who see the world differently than we do? Or do we make a big stink about it and call them stupid?
#128. To: watchman, Liberator, A K A Stone (#124)
We shouldn't call Liberator "stupid"...that's a harsh word. How about gullible, that's better.
Are you a fool, Pinguinite? I don't think so, except when it comes to God. It seems you can't use your excellent logic to bring yourself to a sufficient understanding of God.
#129. To: Tooconservative (#127)
I cannot find that thread now, not sure if it was deleted. Perhaps it was on a thread that was off-topic and hijacked into Moonbattery. And I do not concede that those very famous photos were not taken on the moon.
If you're just saying that truth doesn't matter at all if it might hurt someone's feelings, then you should just come out and say that.
#130. To: Pinguinite (#128)
earth is either flat or only 6000 years old
#131. To: Pinguinite (#128)
How logical is it that one would face an eternity in hell
#132. To: Pinguinite (#128)
Stone has his explanation for the earth only being 6k years old.... we all have explanations for what we believe, but that does not make them true.
#133. To: Pinguinite, tooconservative (#129)
It's here somewhere, but even I'd have trouble finding it.
#134. To: watchman (#130)
Why can't the Earth be only 6000 years old?
#135. To: watchman (#131)
Because that person WANTS to spend eternity in hell.
#136. To: Pinguinite (#134)
Why can't the universe be as old as it is big? Do you doubt the speed of light is what science says it is? Is the furthest object away no more than 6000 light years distant?
#137. To: Pinguinite (#135)
Or because they never heard the gospel because some Christian failed to do as ordered.
#138. To: Pinguinite (#134)
As for evolution, it explains a lot and I have no problem with it.
#139. To: Pinguinite (#135)
Yes, very simple.
#140. To: Pinguinite (#134)
Christianity teaches God is not the "author of deception". Well, if He made the universe look older than it is, that would be pretty deceiving.
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