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Title: RAW FOOTAGE: Balloon, aka NASA "Satellite" Floats Across Full Moon
Source: YT
URL Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAfdkWy0QtE&feature=youtu.be
Published: Feb 3, 2018
Author: Flat Earth Dude
Post Date: 2019-09-28 17:41:37 by Liberator
Keywords: NASA, Satellite, Balloon
Views: 31128
Comments: 184

(Video taken through a Nikon P900 camera)


Poster Comment:

Cool! Great shot of the Moon as well. (Sure doesn't seem like it's 239,000 miles away.)

So.... is balloon technology how NASA really photographs earth? It appears they are able to attach an equipment gondola to the Balloon...and let 'er rip into Low Earth Orbit.

One also wonders if "Astronauts" are actually embedded into a special Balloon gondola instead what's depicted in those dodgy "ISS" shots. Orbital velocity is the velocity needed to achieve balance between gravity's pull on the satellite and the inertia of the satellite's motion -- the satellite's tendency to keep going. This is approximately 17,000 mph (27,359 kph) at an altitude of 150 miles (242 kilometers). Without gravity, the satellite's inertia would carry it off into space.

Moving juuuust a bit slower than 17,000 MPH. Source:

'HOW STUFF WORKS'

https://science.howstuffworks.com/satellite6.htm

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#2. To: Liberator (#0)

'HOW STUFF WORKS'

That's not how any of this works.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-09-29   14:43:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Tooconservative (#2)

That's not how any of this works.

Actually...IT IS.

With respect to, 'HOW STUFF WORKS', I mis-formatted the post, so it's my fault there's some confusion.

OF NOTE:

According to 'HOW STUFF WORKS' and the link I provided:

"Orbital velocity is the velocity needed to achieve balance between gravity's pull on the satellite and the inertia of the satellite's motion -- the satellite's tendency to keep going. This is approximately 17,000 mph.(27,359 kph) at an altitude of 150 miles (242 kilometers). Without gravity, the satellite's inertia would carry it off into space.

We see neither traveling at 17,000 mph -- whether a gi-normous NASA balloon or the pix taken from NASA "Satellites" (which are actually "gondolas" tethered TO balloons at low earth orbit.)

Liberator  posted on  2019-09-30   16:09:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: TooConservative (#5) (Edited)

NASA's Giant Helium Balloons will neither be escaping much beyond the stratosphere, nor dragged to earth via "gravity"...

They drift (or are guided) at a very manageable speed (as captured by this amateur videographer in front of the moon), thus it is the perfect medium from which to view and photograph the earth....or be its passenger.

Liberator  posted on  2019-09-30   16:14:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Liberator (#6)

They drift (or are guided) at a very manageable speed (as captured by this amateur videographer in front of the moon), thus it is the perfect medium from which to view and photograph the earth....or be its passenger.

What would be the point of a randomly-drifting mission for either photography or passenger flight?

Go take a look at the KH-11, from which the Hubbell telescope is derived. These are not randomly-drifting machines - I know; in a past life I helped to track them. When you know weeks, months or years in advance exactly when and where one would clear the horizon, that's pretty much the opposite of random.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2019-09-30   16:28:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Hank Rearden, Pinguinite, Liberator (#7)

Go take a look at the KH-11, from which the Hubbell telescope is derived. These are not randomly-drifting machines - I know; in a past life I helped to track them. When you know weeks, months or years in advance exactly when and where one would clear the horizon, that's pretty much the opposite of random.

Facts don't count when you debate Flattards. Math is irrelevant to Flattards and they don't recognize the concept of mathematical proofs or their finality as a problem's correct solution.

I have noticed some interesting theories recently on the rise of Flat Earthers on YouBoob. Naturally, we all recognize how YouBoob is monetizing all of this while trying to use it to smear all religions, many of whose fundamentalists do reject science. It's a subtle attack strategy used by the TED people and Silicon Valley.

But there is a real question of just how 'tarded the Flattards really are. And it is a serious question. These are the kids who flunked algebra and geometry and chemistry and physics. And they're the kids who argued with the teachers in every class you ever took, the contrarian adolescent types. It is a pronounced personality characteristic that they exhibit.

Some people might consider the questioning of their fundamental intelligence and competence to be hitting below the belt but you can't view many of their top-rated videos - their best stuff - without starting to question if Flattards should be a category in the DSM as a mental disability or condition.

[I thought Neil might like these videos; the first vlogger shows his test for dyscalculia based on an aircraft flight plan and says that no Flattard has managed to pass it with only a few even willing to try to. It reminded me of Neil's posts about aircraft flight plans on some old flat earth threads here at LF.]

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-09-30   18:35:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: Tooconservative, Liberator (#10)

[I thought Neil might like these videos; the first vlogger shows his test for dyscalculia based on an aircraft flight plan and says that no Flattard has managed to pass it with only a few even willing to try to. It reminded me of Neil's posts about aircraft flight plans on some old flat earth threads here at LF.]

Certainly all of us have our strengths and weaknesses in comprehension of various subjects and things. I know I have my weaknesses, so I can empathize with others who have them, even if they are weak in areas I'm strong in. TC, I remember you posting that photo that showed one of the Apollo landing sites from the lander with the earth hugely lit behind it on the horizon. I pretty much knew immediately it was doctored as the earth wouldn't be on the horizon for any Apollo mission, and the shadows didn't match earth's spherical illumination. Earth was also way too detailed for the cameras they had back then. It was a beautiful shot designed for desktop backgrounds, but was not real. That stood out to me but not to yourself, I suppose, and others. Certainly you're better than me in other areas.

Then there is at least one person on this site for whom it is not possible for police to ever commit a sin. It could be said that that person suffers from a form of "dyscalculia" related to police. I'm sure many of us would say similar for those with "Trump derangement syndrome" because they cannot fathom Trump ever doing anything good. Another person here is a baseball, hot dogs and apple pie version of the worst of head-chopping ISIS members, yet still professes Christianity.

I've said before and say again, My theory is that people have an overwhelming ability to believe things even if they are completely untrue. Liberator, whom I still do like and respect, believing the earth is flat is a validation of that theory, which I've subscribed to even before I read of his stating his belief. It's the same reason why most people's religious beliefs reflect that of their parents, no matter what the faith is-- Christianity, Judaim, Islam, Buddism, Hinduism or even Atheism. If it were otherwise then we'd see religious beliefs homogenously spread throughout the world, but we don't. Entire countries are by and large one faith, and remain so from one generation to the next.

So.... that's okay. It's the old cliche. Do you/we accept people who see the world differently than we do? Or do we make a big stink about it and call them stupid? The old saying comes to mind, which I like:

A fool thinks himself wise, but a wise man knows he is a fool.

And when you think about that quote, it inescapably means that all of us are fools. The only difference is that some of us know it, and some of us don't.

Pinguinite  posted on  2019-10-06   3:18:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: Pinguinite, Liberator (#122)

Or do we make a big stink about it and call them stupid?

We shouldn't call Liberator "stupid"...that's a harsh word. How about gullible, that's better.

Are you a fool, Pinguinite? I don't think so, except when it comes to God. It seems you can't use your excellent logic to bring yourself to a sufficient understanding of God.

watchman  posted on  2019-10-06   7:55:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: watchman (#124)

Pinguinite used to profess to be a christian.

A K A Stone  posted on  2019-10-06   8:03:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#126. To: A K A Stone (#125)

Pinguinite used to profess to be a christian.

What happened to him, that he would turn away from the love that is in Christ?

watchman  posted on  2019-10-06 08:56:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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