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Title: RAW FOOTAGE: Balloon, aka NASA "Satellite" Floats Across Full Moon
Source: YT
URL Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAfdkWy0QtE&feature=youtu.be
Published: Feb 3, 2018
Author: Flat Earth Dude
Post Date: 2019-09-28 17:41:37 by Liberator
Keywords: NASA, Satellite, Balloon
Views: 25283
Comments: 184

(Video taken through a Nikon P900 camera)


Poster Comment:

Cool! Great shot of the Moon as well. (Sure doesn't seem like it's 239,000 miles away.)

So.... is balloon technology how NASA really photographs earth? It appears they are able to attach an equipment gondola to the Balloon...and let 'er rip into Low Earth Orbit.

One also wonders if "Astronauts" are actually embedded into a special Balloon gondola instead what's depicted in those dodgy "ISS" shots. Orbital velocity is the velocity needed to achieve balance between gravity's pull on the satellite and the inertia of the satellite's motion -- the satellite's tendency to keep going. This is approximately 17,000 mph (27,359 kph) at an altitude of 150 miles (242 kilometers). Without gravity, the satellite's inertia would carry it off into space.

Moving juuuust a bit slower than 17,000 MPH. Source:

'HOW STUFF WORKS'

https://science.howstuffworks.com/satellite6.htm

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#2. To: Liberator (#0)

'HOW STUFF WORKS'

That's not how any of this works.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-09-29   14:43:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Tooconservative (#2)

That's not how any of this works.

Actually...IT IS.

With respect to, 'HOW STUFF WORKS', I mis-formatted the post, so it's my fault there's some confusion.

OF NOTE:

According to 'HOW STUFF WORKS' and the link I provided:

"Orbital velocity is the velocity needed to achieve balance between gravity's pull on the satellite and the inertia of the satellite's motion -- the satellite's tendency to keep going. This is approximately 17,000 mph.(27,359 kph) at an altitude of 150 miles (242 kilometers). Without gravity, the satellite's inertia would carry it off into space.

We see neither traveling at 17,000 mph -- whether a gi-normous NASA balloon or the pix taken from NASA "Satellites" (which are actually "gondolas" tethered TO balloons at low earth orbit.)

Liberator  posted on  2019-09-30   16:09:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: TooConservative (#5) (Edited)

NASA's Giant Helium Balloons will neither be escaping much beyond the stratosphere, nor dragged to earth via "gravity"...

They drift (or are guided) at a very manageable speed (as captured by this amateur videographer in front of the moon), thus it is the perfect medium from which to view and photograph the earth....or be its passenger.

Liberator  posted on  2019-09-30   16:14:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Liberator (#6)

They drift (or are guided) at a very manageable speed (as captured by this amateur videographer in front of the moon), thus it is the perfect medium from which to view and photograph the earth....or be its passenger.

What would be the point of a randomly-drifting mission for either photography or passenger flight?

Go take a look at the KH-11, from which the Hubbell telescope is derived. These are not randomly-drifting machines - I know; in a past life I helped to track them. When you know weeks, months or years in advance exactly when and where one would clear the horizon, that's pretty much the opposite of random.

Hank Rearden  posted on  2019-09-30   16:28:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Hank Rearden, Pinguinite, Liberator (#7)

Go take a look at the KH-11, from which the Hubbell telescope is derived. These are not randomly-drifting machines - I know; in a past life I helped to track them. When you know weeks, months or years in advance exactly when and where one would clear the horizon, that's pretty much the opposite of random.

Facts don't count when you debate Flattards. Math is irrelevant to Flattards and they don't recognize the concept of mathematical proofs or their finality as a problem's correct solution.

I have noticed some interesting theories recently on the rise of Flat Earthers on YouBoob. Naturally, we all recognize how YouBoob is monetizing all of this while trying to use it to smear all religions, many of whose fundamentalists do reject science. It's a subtle attack strategy used by the TED people and Silicon Valley.

But there is a real question of just how 'tarded the Flattards really are. And it is a serious question. These are the kids who flunked algebra and geometry and chemistry and physics. And they're the kids who argued with the teachers in every class you ever took, the contrarian adolescent types. It is a pronounced personality characteristic that they exhibit.

Some people might consider the questioning of their fundamental intelligence and competence to be hitting below the belt but you can't view many of their top-rated videos - their best stuff - without starting to question if Flattards should be a category in the DSM as a mental disability or condition.

[I thought Neil might like these videos; the first vlogger shows his test for dyscalculia based on an aircraft flight plan and says that no Flattard has managed to pass it with only a few even willing to try to. It reminded me of Neil's posts about aircraft flight plans on some old flat earth threads here at LF.]

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-09-30   18:35:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#20. To: Tooconservative, Hank Rearden, Pinguinite, Grand Island, sneakypete, A K A Stone, Deckard (#10)

"Facts don't count when you debate Flattards...[[blah, blah]...Globetards...YouBoob...mental disability..."

This particular post of yours is hysterical. BRAVO!!

"Debate"?? Did you really mention, "Debate"??

Can you FAIL more miserably on that count, my frothing friend? At least I see others here posing serious, valid questions and challenges -- even though they may disagree with NASA/Flat Earth/911 challenges.

Back to your concept of "debate": ""FLATARD! FLATARD! FLATARD!...YouBoob! YouBoob! YouBoob! Mental disability!!" does NOT constitute a "debate"; Or any reasoned discussion and challenge of simple claimed facts, math, or science. Neither do tantrums and hysterics over sources you hate and resent (YouTube) because they circumvent the "official" sources of "truth" and happen to expose previously pre-YouTube actual hidden truth. (Btw, baiting Neil/Ping into entering the fray? Lame.)

As the resident self-annointed arbiter of consensus and "acceptable subject matter" at LF, are you sure you even know the definition of "debate"? (I mean other than the same ol' puerile "Flatard" ad hominims I've seen from millennials and "adolescent types" -- yes, the same compliant pods you attempted to control, and indoctrinate as a teacher of the Rockefellerian agenda.)

Facts don't count when you debate Flattards. Math is irrelevant to Flattards...

Oh, the irony. Have you always been such a condescending, no-nothing little pr*ck?

Last evening, Prof. TooConservative, I lobbed 4 clear Test Questions for you to answer. They were "Factual," "Scientific," AND "Mathematical". As you routinely do, you engaged in your usual gaslighting attempt, not only failing to answer the questions, but changing the subject and entire premise...

But for now -- and for the sake of credibility and honesty, please answer just these a few still un-answered questions and explain NASA's own large credibility problem. Ignoring them won't make it go away. And besides -- I reeeeealy wanna believe!!

QUESTION #1:

FACT: Given NASA's own "Scientists" admit" "WE CAN'T LEAVE LOW EARTH ORBIT" (But they're "working on it!").

Simple logic and math: How then is NASA's claim to have traveled 778,000 miles (round trip) to the Moon AND back 5 times from 1969-1972 possible? (especially when 50 YEARS LATER they CAN NOT?)

Can you kindly work out that "Math" AND "Science" for us?

QUESTION #2 (includes assumptive premise):

Can we all agree on this?

Given one accepts the established "Historical/Scientific Fact" NASA claims to have accomplished -- that is the greatest of feat in the annals of Human History: Plotting a precise course to and landing men on the Moon 239,000 miles away AND returning. Safely. FIVE TIMES. 50 years ago.

But...HOW is this all possible when NASA now admits escaping the SAME "Low Earth Orbit" is now NASA's "biggest challenge"? They admit it's a problem that is still not figured out...

QUESTION #3: Please rationally or logically explain how it was possible (or believable) that NASA "LOST THE TECHNOLOGY" (or threw it out)?

IF NASA has indeed already traveled back & forth to the Moon FIVE times, without any discussion about what it now says are current grave problems/solutions about leaving "Low Earth Orbit", how are NASA and any of those 169-1972 missions believable or credible??

Yes, I'm stupid; (Maybe I have a "mental disability" as you suggest.) Because I don't understand the above unanswered questions. But as a really smart teacher and person, I'm sure YOU can explain how these "facts," "Math," and "Science" is possible. And how NASA went to the Moon 5 times. And now? Nope, we are told by NASA itself: WE. CAN. NOT.

THANKS.

Liberator  posted on  2019-10-01 13:01:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: Tooconservative, Liberator (#10)

[I thought Neil might like these videos; the first vlogger shows his test for dyscalculia based on an aircraft flight plan and says that no Flattard has managed to pass it with only a few even willing to try to. It reminded me of Neil's posts about aircraft flight plans on some old flat earth threads here at LF.]

Certainly all of us have our strengths and weaknesses in comprehension of various subjects and things. I know I have my weaknesses, so I can empathize with others who have them, even if they are weak in areas I'm strong in. TC, I remember you posting that photo that showed one of the Apollo landing sites from the lander with the earth hugely lit behind it on the horizon. I pretty much knew immediately it was doctored as the earth wouldn't be on the horizon for any Apollo mission, and the shadows didn't match earth's spherical illumination. Earth was also way too detailed for the cameras they had back then. It was a beautiful shot designed for desktop backgrounds, but was not real. That stood out to me but not to yourself, I suppose, and others. Certainly you're better than me in other areas.

Then there is at least one person on this site for whom it is not possible for police to ever commit a sin. It could be said that that person suffers from a form of "dyscalculia" related to police. I'm sure many of us would say similar for those with "Trump derangement syndrome" because they cannot fathom Trump ever doing anything good. Another person here is a baseball, hot dogs and apple pie version of the worst of head-chopping ISIS members, yet still professes Christianity.

I've said before and say again, My theory is that people have an overwhelming ability to believe things even if they are completely untrue. Liberator, whom I still do like and respect, believing the earth is flat is a validation of that theory, which I've subscribed to even before I read of his stating his belief. It's the same reason why most people's religious beliefs reflect that of their parents, no matter what the faith is-- Christianity, Judaim, Islam, Buddism, Hinduism or even Atheism. If it were otherwise then we'd see religious beliefs homogenously spread throughout the world, but we don't. Entire countries are by and large one faith, and remain so from one generation to the next.

So.... that's okay. It's the old cliche. Do you/we accept people who see the world differently than we do? Or do we make a big stink about it and call them stupid? The old saying comes to mind, which I like:

A fool thinks himself wise, but a wise man knows he is a fool.

And when you think about that quote, it inescapably means that all of us are fools. The only difference is that some of us know it, and some of us don't.

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