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Title: Libertarians and Trump
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Lew Rockwell
URL Source: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2019/09/jim-cox/libertarians-and-trump/
Published: Sep 27, 2019
Author: Jim Cox
Post Date: 2019-09-27 06:27:02 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 1416
Comments: 16
I joined the LP in October 1973. Since then I’ve voted for the Libertarian candidate in each election—that’s 11 straight presidential elections where libertarians saw an undesirable president sworn into office. Of those presidents none has called for “zero tariffs, zero subsidies, zero non-tariff barriers”. How excited would libertarians have been to hear a major party president so much as say this during the years 1976-2012? Of course, I would prefer it if Trump, when he makes such statements, had the commanding presence of George Washington, the erudition of Thomas Jefferson, the charm of John Kennedy, the family life of Jimmy Carter, but he doesn’t. Trump is who he is. (And I have to wonder if it just takes a personality like that of Trump to have accomplished the positives he has so far, against such overwhelming opposition.) Accomplishments And he has sought to make peace with N. Korea including bringing home to their families the bodies of U.S. soldiers left there by every president since Eisenhower. And he implemented a sizable tax cut. And he has reduced the cost of NATO for Americans by insisting the member countries pay their agreed-to share. And he has placed a hiring freeze on federal hires. (Unfortunately, later rescinded.) And he has reduced federal regulations. And he has raised the possibility of paying off the national debt by selling federal assets. We haven’t heard that since Harry Browne ran for President. And he has tried to implement a rescinding of the previously approved spending. I never even heard mention of such from any of the earlier presidents! And he has commuted the sentence of non-violent drug offender, Alice Johnson who was in prison for 21 years during the presidencies of Clinton, Bush, and Obama. And he has popularized the phrase, “drain the swamp!” And he has the entire Deep State at war with him. Contrast that with the Deep State’s satisfaction with the other presidents. In fact, the term “Deep State” has only become widespread in the era of Trump. And he has outed the mainstream media as being part of the Deep State. (I would like to see it referenced as the Deep State-Military-Industrial-Media Complex.) And the Trump Administration has sought public comments on marijuana reclassification. And his policies have resulted in the lowest unemployment rate in 50 years, including that for Blacks and Hispanics. And his policies have resulted in the economy (GDP) growing at a rate of 3% for the first time since 2005. And his policies have resulted in the US becoming the world’s top oil producer for the first time since 1973. And in the all-important issue of foreign policy we have the words of Gareth Porter at Antiwar.com: He has complained bitterly, both in public and in private meetings with aides, about the suite of permanent wars that the Pentagon has been fighting for many years across the Greater Middle East and Africa, as well as about deployments and commitments to South Korea and NATO. This has resulted in an unprecedented struggle between a sitting president and the national security state over a global US military empire that has been sacrosanct in American politics since early in the Cold War. [emphasis added] Mixed Bag Let me acknowledge that Trump is a mixed bag, good in some areas, disastrous in many others. But as Tom Woods put it regarding Thomas Jefferson’s mixed policy actions as president, “We would kill for a president like that.” EP1228/49:25 We (libertarians) have never had any president take the good stands Trump has. None. Everything bad about the Trump policies can be readily said of the Carter/Reagan/Bush/Clinton/Bush/Obama administrations without even a small fraction of the good! Again, from Porter: …in December 2016, Trump vowed, “We will stop racing to topple foreign regimes that we knew nothing about, that we shouldn’t be involved with.” Instead of investing in wars, he said, he would invest in rebuilding America’s crumbling infrastructure. Similar words were heard from libertarian hero, Ron Paul! I’m enjoying these crumbs we are finally getting and do not understand the blanket criticisms from libertarians who can be as prone to virtue signally as the liberal/progressives. So, in contrast to them, I say, one cheer for President Trump!
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#1. To: Deckard (#0)
Since then I’ve voted for the How's that working out for you? Salute,
“One Cheer?” You need to stand up, go to the window, open it, stick your head out, and: Salute,
I enjoyed the article, until I saw this horse shit. How can Paultard be a “hero” when legislatively, he’s done nothing and he has a following that is smaller than a Kardashian?
Trump has been FANTASTIC in his accomplishement. The List Of President Trump's Accomplishments So Far. Salute,
I enjoyed the article, until I saw this horse shit. And super critically when it is something that Deckard has posted. Salute,
Doesn't take much to trigger you two clowns into a temper tantrum, does it? Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. It takes FAR EVEN LESS to trigger you, Salute,
Off topic, but I will reply just this once. Do you find this story "derogatory"? Ex-Dallas cop who fatally shot neighbor distracted by sexting police partner, prosecutors say If you can defend this "lady" cop, then you have deeper authority fetish issues than I had feared. BTW, the lack of originality shown by you posting the same graphic I did is laughable. Worthy of yukon, I might add. Nice try at deflecting though Parsons.
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. Your hatred of libertarians and libertarianism has consumed your minds to the point where I question your sanity. A nice, pro-Trump article, and all you can do is whine about the author's political beliefs.
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. I am glad you appreciated it. It is an easy thing to use. You can learn: Salute,
Well, GLORY BE… It is indeed a pleasant surprise and a wonderful delight to see that you have FINALLY learned to QUESTION something. And not simply read a headline that meets your fancy – then, blindly copy and paste the article on LF. Attaboy, Deckard – You keep on QUESTIONING … *** snicker *** Salute,
No whining at all ... Just doing an easy thing to call attention to call attention the fact that: Only one of the many inherent problems with libertarian ideology. Attaboy, Deckard – You just keep on acting as my “straight man.” You are doing a great job with your “easy set ups” … *** Hee Hee *** Salute,
I have no reason to every try. I will never attempt to defend a police officer who may – or may not – have done something wrong. It is impossible to pass judgments with only the one-sided biased information contained in your articles. Furthermore, I will never defend any of the 23 bad cops who will do something wrong today – while the remainder of the 850,000 sworn law enforcement officers continue to work their asses off to investigate the over 8 million crimes committed in this country each year. It is to those dedicated officers that I proudly stand and … Salute,
Does this mean you will support PDJT in '20? You should, as should other Libertarians, considering his accomplishments. He is far more Conservative than some of their nominees. Last election, quite a few Libertarians voted for Trump because of Hillary. The ones I know are plesantly surprised that he is more Conservative than they expected.
There, fixed your assessment, of LIBERALtarians, that have been evicted from conservative forums.
Trump did ... on other countries. But they refused. So he decided to play the exact same game they were playing. It's called a "level playing field" which delusional Libertarians think will automatically happen in their fantasy world.
I joined the LP in October 1973.
Uh …
Libertarian candidate in each election.
Gatlin
#2. To: Deckard (#0)
(Edited)
So, in contrast to them, I say, one cheer for President Trump!
Uh …
Gatlin
#3. To: Gatlin (#1)
“Similar words were heard from libertarian hero, Ron Paul!“
#4. To: Deckard (#0)
Let me acknowledge that Trump is a mixed bag, good in some areas, disastrous in many others.
Bullshit !!!
Gatlin
#5. To: GrandIsland (#3)
“Similar words were heard from libertarian hero, Ron Paul!“
I use the old ugly bureaucratic neologismword “agendize” to question what is behind each and everything coming from a libertarian.
Gatlin
#6. To: GrandIsland, Gatlin (#3)
(Edited)
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#7. To: Deckard (#6)
Doesn't take much to trigger you two clowns into a temper tantrum, does it?
the cop-hating asshole,
into posting derogatory articles about cops.
Gatlin
#8. To: Gatlin (#7)
(Edited)
derogatory articles about cops.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#9. To: Gatlin, GrandIsland (#2)
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#10. To: Deckard (#8)
BTW, the lack of originality shown by you posting the same graphic I did is laughable.
How to add humour to a boring topic.
Gatlin
#11. To: Deckard (#9)
Your hatred of libertarians and libertarianism has consumed your minds to the point where I question your sanity.
Gatlin
#12. To: Deckard (#9)
whine about the author's political beliefs.
Libertarian ideology is the natural enemy of science.
Gatlin
#13. To: Deckard (#8)
If you can defend this "lady" cop …
Gatlin
#14. To: Deckard (#0)
#15. To: Deckard (#9)
Your hatred of cops and law enforcement, has consumed your mind to the point where I question your sanity.
#16. To: Deckard (#0)
Of those presidents none has called for “zero tariffs, zero subsidies, zero non-tariff barriers”.
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