How was this traffic stop an unconstitutional overreach?"
Video Narrator: [the officers] disregard for their oath to the Constitution.
How did the officers show complete disregard for their oath to the Constitution when they obeyed departmental procedures and broke no laws?
This is yet another case of someone using emotive language in their "language-persuasive technique" as rhetoric to influence an audience by using words and phrases with strong connotations associated with them in order to invoke an emotional response and exploit stereotypes.
And some people continually fall into the entrapment by its use.
I'm not sure what the priests have to do with the police who conducted this traffic stop.
I am not sure how you can watch a video and describe the police officers as dishonorable cowards when the violated no departmental procedures or broke any laws.
So this situation now leaves us both unsure of something
I call upon your many years serving our country as a law enforcement officer to use your judgment and answer when I ask if this video shows police officers reacting to a shot fired from a moving vehicle was an overreaction all the while considering the propensity of copycat shootings and remembering the Texas incident of shooting from a vehicle that let 7 dead and 21 injured.
Of is this video is just another of the many complied to cast bad light by cop haters on law enforcement?
It is to be noted that the narrator showed in no way were departmental guidelines disobeyed or laws broken.
I'm focusing just on the "we're on camera" (run!) part of the video.
Just saying were on camera after the car had been visually searched and walking to the rear of the vehicle where the individual was then being detained for questioning made all of the officers performing their duty as outlined by departmental policy and complying with all laws be a lot of dangerous cowards?
You are entitled to your subjective opinion, of course.
While I am entitled to fail to understand how you subjectively made such a demeaning classification.
There is really nothing more I can discuss on this subject with you.
I therefore, I sincerely thank you for your time and for your responses.
I call upon your many years serving our country as a law enforcement officer to use your judgment and answer when I ask if this video shows police officers reacting to a shot fired from a moving vehicle was an overreaction all the while considering the propensity of copycat shootings and remembering the Texas incident of shooting from a vehicle that let 7 dead and 21 injured.
Or is this video is just another of the many complied to cast bad light by cop haters on law enforcement?
Remembering that the narrator showed in no way were departmental guidelines disobeyed or laws broken.
It's apparent that Harrisburg has entirely too many cops! Many of those responding should be fired. and the remaining force need to be lectured about not flexing their firepower.
Liberals are like Slinkys. They're good for nothing, but somehow they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.
that you reacted in exactly the manner the producers of this video programmed you to react.
This was no routine traffic stop when the officer casually strolls up to the drivers window and says may I see your drivers license and vehicle registration, please.
This was a "felony high-risk traffic stop which
occurs when police stop a vehicle which they have strong reason to believe contains a driver or passenger suspected of having committed a serious crime, especially of a nature that would lead the police to believe the suspects may be armed (such as an armed robbery, assault with a weapon, or an outstanding felony warrant for the registered owner). In a high risk stop, officers attempt to provide their own safety by issuing instructions to maintain absolute control over every step of the proceedings.
They will have additional officers on scene for back-up, often waiting for additional officers to join up before initiating the stop. They will typically have their weapons drawn, and stay back from the suspect vehicle, using their patrol cars for cover. If there is no choice but to make the stop on a busy street, then they will often stop traffic. They will address the driver and any passengers over the PA speaker of the patrol car, typically instructing the driver to turn the engine off, remove the keys from the ignition, and sometimes toss them out the window. They will instruct the occupants, one at a time, to exit the vehicle with empty hands showing, place their hands on top of or behind their heads, walk backwards some distance, and then lie flat on the ground, where they will remain until all occupants have done likewise, at which point officers will move up, apply handcuffs, do a body search and then secure the suspects in the patrol cars. The vehicle is then typically searched for weapons and other evidence in accordance with the arresting department's standard operating procedures ("S.O.P.'s").
Based on your evaluation of the situation where you determined
it's apparent that Harrisburg has entirely too many cops! Many of those responding should be fired. and the remaining force need to be lectured about not flexing their firepower
can you now please use your expertise and tell everyone in your expert opinion exactly how many cops are supposed to respond "felony high-risk traffic stop with a shot fired call in. Is it a limited number or are all available officers supposed to respond to a to a call of this nature?
Thats a by the book, felony car stop. Nothing unusual. The officers appeared to be trained well.
As far as too many police. Thats horse shit. If LE felt there was a need to felony stop a vehicle, then every on duty patrolling officer will respond to the traffic stop, as an officer safety issue. Until officers know the felony stop is officer safe, contained or even the wrong car, you could never have too many officers.
I am not sure what was the cause for the felony stop. If a gun was suspected in the vehicle, or just used (shot out of a vehicle), then it was handled correctly, regardless of a gun was found or it turned out to be the wrong vehicle.
The fact that Mr. Bang was recording from the get-go, tells me he spends his time trying to set officers up for the purpose of getting people like Dicktard, hard.
Wasnt long ago that a traffic stop in Texas... turned into a nightmare and like 19 people were shot. When the sick twisted, drug addicted asshole sheep act like that, expect LE to change their training to provide the police SELF DEFENSE.
Thank you for your detailed and informative response.
This video is a textbook example of how someone can intentionally control the minds of others by taking a factually correct procedure and channel the thought process of others by presenting it in a ridiculous light to make it appear that it is an overly zealous uncontrolled act.
It plays on the psychological emotions these believers cant tolerate and the result is forming a condemning opinion on something that they wouldn't have done without the effect of these emotions.
It shows that certain emotions can be induced in someone and when he finds that he cant tolerate these emotions he does that thing that he wouldnt have done otherwise he reacts to the mind control in the manner he has just been programmed to do.
It is ever so easy to protect yourself for all of these methods of control by watching out for the controlled method emotions people try to induce in you and stop the involuntary programmed response to them.
Some folks need to start thinking and stop reacting
tell everyone in your expert opinion exactly how many cops are supposed to respond "felony high-risk traffic stop
Well. I believe an armed personnel carrier, no, several armed personnel carriers and at least a battalion of armed officers. In a case like this the driver should have been shot at the outset.
Liberals are like Slinkys. They're good for nothing, but somehow they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.
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Remember: Think well, act well, feel well, be well!