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politics and politicians Title: Bye-bye Biden? Warren leads in new national poll, tied for lead in another Bear in mind, these results are trickling in *before* Democratic voters have digested the allegations of corruption made against Biden in the Ukraine matter. Even if they opt not to believe them, how many will conclude that swing voters will believe them next fall and start discounting Bidens alleged electability advantage? Imagine if Trump ends up being impeached for trying to make trouble abroad for a candidate who was never going to be his general election opponent anyway. A game-changing new poll from Quinnipiac: Not only is 27 percent the best Warrens ever done in a national poll, its also the first time shes led Biden outright in any national poll. As usual, she leads him in enthusiasm too: Fully 70 percent of Dems say theyd be excited to see her as nominee versus 56 percent who say the same of Biden. The real alarm bell for Grandpa Joe, though, is the split among black voters, as Philip Klein rightly notes: In California, its a similar story. A new LA Times poll finds Warren jumping to a 29 percent to 22 percent lead in the delegate-rich state overall, but, shes only trailing Biden 32 percent to 24 percent among black voters. Sen. Kamala Harris, who is both black and from California, was at 18 percent among the group. Not only is Warren now second to Biden among black voters, trailing him 40/19, but Bernie Sanders has 12 percent of that group. If Bernie fades and black progressives begin drifting towards Warren, suddenly shed be competitive with Joe among voters who are supposed to be his firewall, the group that will offset his losses among other demographics by preferring him overwhelmingly. Blacks no longer prefer him overwhelmingly, according to todays Quinnipiac data. And given the general drift towards Warren in all polling lately, its likely that his lead among them will shrink rather than grow. Could the Quinnipiac poll be an outlier? Seems unlikely. This new data that dropped this morning from YouGov confirms that the race is a coin flip right now, with Warren and Biden neck and neck in the mid-20s. % naming candidate as their first choice (among likely voters): Warren: 25% All else 1% or less G. Elliott Morris (@gelliottmorris) September 25, 2019 When Democratic voters are asked whom theyre considering voting for, Warren leads Biden 54/47. There are other polls lately that look like this too Emerson recently had Biden up 25/23 and NBC/WSJ had it 31/25 in mid-September. Theres no reason, in other words, to think Quinnipiac and YouGov are bad polls for Biden or good polls for Warren. They seem to accurately reflect the state of the race at the moment, before the impact of the Ukraine stuff has been felt. In fact, as of today, Warren is the first candidate besides Biden to crack 20 percent in the RCP poll of polls since May. She seems to be for real. But wait, you say, national polls are interesting but ultimately dont matter. Iowa and New Hampshire are what matter. Right, true but Warrens surging there too. I already posted this new Monmouth poll of New Hampshire yesterday but its worth eyeballing the numbers again: 1. If the Democratic primary election for president was today, would you vote for [NAMES WERE ROTATED]? [If UNDECIDED: If you had to vote for one of these candidates at this moment, who do you lean toward?] Shes just three points behind Biden in the RCP polling average of the state right now. And Iowa? Warren has led the field there in the last two polls taken, 24/16 over Biden in an Iowa State survey taken in mid-September and 22/20 in a Des Moines Register poll conducted a few days later. Shes up 2.7 points in the RCP average. If you had to make a bet on the Democratic primaries at this particular moment in time, Warren running the table would look like a fairly solid bet. The question is whether South Carolinas mostly black Democratic electorate would stick with Biden if he lost the first two states or if theyd break for Warren if she won them. The signs there arent great for Biden either, per Politico: As strange as it is to imagine after the Democratic field initially ballooned to more than 20 candidates, the actual race could be over quickly once Democrats start voting. Which means Trump will never have a chance to use the Ukraine matter against Biden but Warren will have lots of chances to use it against Trump. Good lord. Exit question: Kamala Harris is now at three percent nationally, per Quinnipiac? Was even Scott Walkers 2016 flameout as embarrassing as this? Poster Comment: Brutal numbers for Biden. And these were before most of the news about his own Ukraine scandal came out. Will Team Biden even survive the journey to the Iowa caucus? And Warren is taking the black vote away from him, his last stronghold.
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#3. To: Tooconservative (#0)
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Warren is the one I did not want to see as nominee. She is so full of anger! The minute she comes on the tv, I grab the remote. I can't stand her finger pointing, obnoxious persona. The hope is that others feel the same way on her side of the aisle. This wealth tax will tick off big donors. They don't mind being taxed more, but touching their wealth is another matter. Bezos would be paying $9 billion in taxes if she went thru with this position.
#6. To: WWG1WWA (#3)
Warren and Sanders scare the crap out of the old money and Wall Street types and the tycoons. Warren is more feared because she's seen as almost as radical as Sanders but, unlike Sanders, could actually get elected prez. Bezos and Soros and Buffet and the Waltons and the Kochs will all be free to vote against Warren. And to fund PACs to persuade others to do the same.
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