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Title: Court Shoots Down Cop's Assertion That Driving Without Breaking Any Laws Is 'Suspicious'
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Published: Sep 19, 2019
Author: Tim Cushing
Post Date: 2019-09-20 09:43:05 by Deckard
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Must be tough out there for cops. Literally everything is suspicious. And there are only so many hours in the day. Since no court is willing to end the tradition of pretextual stops, anything that can be described as suspicious has been used to initiate fishing expeditions. A few courts have called out this tendency to view almost everything humans do as indicative of criminal behavior. This is one of the better call-outs, as it gives some indication of just how many "training and experience" assertions the court has had to wade through while dealing with law enforcement assertions about reasonable suspicion. A logical reasoning sequence based upon some “training and experience” — because drug traffickers have been seen breathing, then breathing is an indicia of drug trafficking. Because they normally have two hands, then having two hands is an indicia of drug smuggling. Silly — maybe, but one can wonder if that is the direction we are heading. Whether it be driving a clean vehicle, or looking at a peace officer, or looking away from a peace officer, or a young person driving a newer vehicle, or someone driving in a car with meal wrappers, or someone driving carefully, or driving on an interstate, most anything can be considered as indicia of drug trafficking to law enforcement personnel. Maybe this is because drug smugglers just happen to be human beings and being such, they tend to engage in the same innocuous acts in which law abiding citizens engage. See Gonzalez-Galindo v. State, 306 S.W.3d at 896 (observing that “[c]riminals come in all makes and colors. Some have hair, some do not. Some are men, some are not. Some drive cars, some do not. Some wear suits, some do not. Some have baseball caps, some do not. Some want attention, some do not. Some have nice cars, some do not. Some eat spaghetti, some do not. And, sometimes, some even engage in innocent activity.”) This is in addition to these data points, all presumed to be "suspicious" behavior by law enforcement officers: That's the standard law enforcement holds itself to. Fortunately, some courts refuse to accept this lower standard of suspicion. The Arizona Court of Appeals is one of those courts. This recent decision [PDF] overturns a lower court's inexplicable support of a cop's extremely dubious "reasonable suspicion" claims. (via The Newspaper) The defendant was pulled over by a police officer shortly after leaving a bar. According to the unnamed officer, the defendant's driving was suspicious. Here's what the officer observed: At the June 2018 evidentiary hearing, the officer testified that, while on patrol for a DUI task force on December 7, 2017 around 9:30 p.m., he first observed Flynn when he was exiting a strip mall parking lot near Dobson and Guadalupe Roads in Mesa. The strip mall contained several restaurants that were open at the time but, because the officer knew there was a hole in a fence on the opposite side of the complex that separated the strip mall parking lot from an adjacent bar, he followed Flynn for approximately two miles. During this time, the officer estimated Flynn’s speed at between twenty-eight and thirty-five miles per hour, never reaching the posted limit of forty-five miles per hour. In the course of following Flynn, the officer observed no traffic violations or other clues of impairment. This was the entirety of the officer's assertion: that he had observed literally nothing else than a person leaving a strip mall and driving home while obeying all traffic laws and otherwise appearing to be sober. The officer tried to claim that the driver's inability to hit the posted speed limit was itself suspicious. This ignores that fact that a speed limit limits top speed. It does not make driving at a lower speed illegal, nor necessarily indicate the driver is impaired. On top of that, the officer could not deliver any reliable testimony about his speed limit-related observations. The officer testified he initiated the stop solely because Flynn left the vicinity of a bar and then traveled at a speed that varied but remained below the posted limit. However, the officer did not remember how many times Flynn’s speed varied. He did not have any clear recollection of where the fluctuations occurred or whether Flynn had been required to stop or slow down for any of the seven light-controlled intersections the pair encountered. Nor was he able to testify as to how frequent or great a speed variance would need to be to qualify as a clue of impairment. With that, the suppression order is reinstated and the prosecution loses all the evidence the cop obtained during his suspicionless stop. The problem, of course, is that a ruling like this won't deter officers from performing suspicionless stops. It will just make them work a bit harder when crafting their assertions. People are still going to get stopped for completely bullshit reasons and allow taxpayers to fund the redress of grievances.
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Thank You ...
Gatlin the spam-bot troll strikes again derailing yet another thread. Any comments on this? This was the entirety of the officer's assertion: that he had observed literally nothing else than a person leaving a strip mall and driving home while obeying all traffic laws and otherwise appearing to be sober. The officer tried to claim that the driver's inability to hit the posted speed limit was itself suspicious. This ignores that fact that a speed limit limits top speed. It does not make driving at a lower speed illegal, nor necessarily indicate the driver is impaired. On top of that, the officer could not deliver any reliable testimony about his speed limit-related observations.
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. RIP my brothers & sisters. Thanks for posting this, Gatlin
Any comments on this? Yeah,MY thoughts are this is a public message board,where anyone who wants to comment is free to do so,and also free to express any lawful opinions he or she may have,regardless of who,if anyone,agrees with them or not. You have a problem with that?
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Any comments on this? Please allow me to call to your attention that today 23 law enforcement officers from the total of 850,000 sworn law enforcement officers in America will be investigated or disciplined for misconduct. While today, the remaining 849.977 dedicated law enforcement officers with begin investigating what will become a total of 8,969,768 crimes for the year. Look at the numbers: Please join with President Trump to honor fallen police officers: Salute,
… de nada … Respect goes both ways: Thank you ... Salute,
You have a problem with that? Not at all. I have a problem when someone deliberately spams the thread and does so only to derail any discussion about the actual article.
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. Ok. I didn't personally see that,but I still have chemo-brain,so I suppose it is possible. Could you point it out to me/explain it?
In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.
Must be tough out there for cops.
Yes, it is – It most Definitely is … 
#2. To: Deckard (#0)
#3. To: Gatlin (#2)
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The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#4. To: Gatlin (#1)
Please Join in Honoring Officers Killed in 2019 -
#5. To: Deckard (#3)
Gatlin the spam-bot troll strikes again derailing yet another thread.
#6. To: Deckard (#3)
Gatlin … strikes again …
Yes, I have another comment. Homicide - 17,316
I stand to honor those other 849.977 brave and dedicated law enforcement officers.
Rape - 135,242
Robbery - 320,185
Aggravated assault - 813,204
Burglary - 1,406,199
Larceny-theft - 5,535,930
Motor vehicle theft - 774,631
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2017/crime- in-the-u.s.-2017/tables/table-1
Gatlin
#7. To: GrandIsland (#4)
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Thanks for posting this, Gatlin
Gatlin
#8. To: sneakypete (#5)
Yeah,MY thoughts are this is a public message board,where anyone who wants to comment is free to do so,and also free to express any lawful opinions he or she may have,regardless of who,if anyone,agrees with them or not.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#9. To: Deckard (#8)
Not at all. I have a problem when someone deliberately spams the thread and does so only to derail any discussion about the actual article.
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