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Title: The Very Book The Government Does Not Want You To Read Just Went #1 In The World
Source: Collective Evolution
URL Source: https://www.collective-evolution.co ... read-just-went-1-in-the-world/
Published: Sep 18, 2019
Author: Arjun Walia
Post Date: 2019-09-20 07:27:10 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 14128
Comments: 88

In Brief

  • The Facts:

    Edward Snowden recently released a book titled "Permanent Record." The US government is now suing the publisher of the book for not giving the CIA and the NSA a chance to erase classified details from the book.

  • Reflect On:

    What is the government really protecting? Are they protecting the well being of the citizenry or are they protecting immoral, unethical, political, corporate and elitist interests?

George Orwell’s 1984 is a classic book depicting a populace ruled by a political regime that persecutes individualism and independent critical thinking as “thoughtcrimes” that must be enforced by the “thought police.” This party seeks power above all, and, through the propagandist Ministry of Truth, presents the people with their version of truth and casts away all other information and opinion. Sound familiar?

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This is exactly what’s happening today right in front of our eyes. The “ministry of truth” comes in the form, at least on social media, as FakeNews watchdogs. These are entities that are flagging information that threatens corporate and political interests and labels it as “fake news” when a lot of it, is in fact, the complete opposite. Since when does an authoritative entity like the government have to step in and decide for the people what is real and what is not? Are people not capable of examining sources and determining this for themselves? These fake news watchdogs have some interesting sponsors. One of these sponsors, for example, is NewsGuard. They are funded by Clinton donors and big pharma, with ties to the CFR. You can read more about that entity here.

Companies and government agencies who are threatened by information also seem to be employing an “army of bloggers, surrogates, trolls, and bots on Twitter, Facebook, and by email” (Robert F. Kennedy Jr.) to try and sway discussion and brainwash people. We here at Collective Evolution have been experiencing them as well.

The world knows why the hunt for Julian Assange was ongoing for so long, it’s because he leaked secrets and exposed those who keep them. He exposed the lies, corruption and deceit that represents the backbone of the Western military alliance and the American empire. He exposed, in the words of John F. Hylan, former Mayor of New York City, the “real menace of Republic”, the “invisible government, which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation.” He exposes the ones “who virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes.” (source)(source)

He exposed immoral and unethical actions that have no basis and justification, he is a hero.

The same thing goes for National Security Agency (NSA) whistleblower Edward Snowden, who leaked classified documents regarding the scope of the US governments surveillance programs, which is and was huge. He is and was not the first, William Binney did the same, along with Thomas Drake and many others.

Keep in mind that this is a global mass surveillance program. Snowden recently released a book about it, and more.

In the book, Snowden goes into great detail about how he risked everything to expose the US government’s system of mass surveillance. In it, he reveals the story of his life, including how he helped to build that system and what motivated him to try to bring it down.

Mass surveillance, facial recognition, etc, are justified by the national security state for the purposes of combating terrorism, for example. But, what does the connection between terrorist organizations and the US government say about these programs? If the US government itself, or factions of it, are arming these terrorists, creating them, and carrying out false flag events blaming them on terrorism in order to justify infiltration of a country for ulterior motives as well as a heightened the national security state which involves mass surveillance, this means that their justification for these programs is a complete lie. So what’s the real reason for them?

This is well known, a few years ago current democratic presidential candidate Tulsi Gabbard introduced the stop arming terrorist act, which would stop the U.S. government from using taxpayer dollars to directly or indirectly support groups who are allied with and supporting terrorist groups like ISIS and al Qaeda in their war to overthrow the Syrian government. (source)

As far as false flag terrorist attacks go, many believe the chemical gas attacks in Syria were orchestrated by the western military alliance in order to justify the infiltration of the country. The evidence for this is quite grand. 9/11 is another example many people believe was false flag terrorism.

‘Protecting National security’ has now become an umbrella term to justify immoral and unethical actions.

Perhaps Snowden’s book sheds light on that. I have yet to read it.

William Binney is a former high ranking intelligence official with the National Security Agency (NSA). He’s had quite the go, starting in 2002 when he let the public know of a system ( ‘trailblazer’) intended to analyze data carried on communication networks (like the internet). He exposed the agencies eavesdropping program and has faced harassment from the FBI, NSA and more. He has been in and out of the court room ever since he decided to resign and blow the whistle.

Binney hasn’t stopped, one of the highest-level whistleblowers to ever come out of the NSA. He is now saying:

“At least 80% of fibre optic cables globally go via the US, this is no accident and allows the US to view all communication coming in. At least 80% of all audio calls, not just metadata, are recorded and stored in the US. The NSA lies about what it stores. The ultimate goal of the NSA is total population control.” (source)

The Takeaway

At the end of the day, the US government suing the publisher of Snowden’s book is only bringing more attention to the truth of mass censorship and that this global elite is losing power. The more the global elite respond the way they are, with this like the mass censorship of information, alternative independent media outlets being shut down, and jailing people like Julian Assange, the more they hurt their own interests… which is inspiring for humanity as we awaken.

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#4. To: Deckard (#0)

The US government is now suing the publisher of the book for not giving the CIA and the NSA a chance to erase classified details from the book.

Uh Freedom of Speech and the press little bitches.

A K A Stone  posted on  2019-09-21   8:45:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: A K A Stone (#4)

Uh Freedom of Speech and the press little bitches.

Freedom of Speech is NOT a universal right. When you have a security clearance you sign documents promising you will never reveal any information you gain due to the access your clearance gives you,and agree to the punishments outlined on the papers you sign.

This applies to Snowden. If you don't want to go to prison,either don't sign the papers and take the job,or stay silent. Snowden signed the papers and then went public,so now he is a whiny little bitch complaining about how "unfair" it is,just like he is some sort of spoiled 9 year old mama's boy.

sneakypete  posted on  2019-09-21   13:18:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: sneakypete (#15)

What law would that be he broke.

Since congress shall make NO LAW.......

There is no law.

A K A Stone  posted on  2019-09-21   20:59:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: A K A Stone, Gatlin, sneakypete, Deckard (#20)

You are mistaking the government action as a criminal action when it is a civil action. The article is misrepresents the government action as one to prevent publication.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/united-states-files-civil-lawsuit-against-edward-snowden-publishing-book-violation-cia-and

Justice News
Department of Justice
Office of Public Affairs

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Tuesday, September 17, 2019

United States Files Civil Lawsuit against Edward Snowden for Publishing a Book in Violation of CIA and NSA Non-Disclosure Agreements

The United States today filed a lawsuit against Edward Snowden, a former employee of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and contractor for the National Security Agency (NSA), who published a book entitled Permanent Record in violation of the non-disclosure agreements he signed with both CIA and NSA.

The lawsuit alleges that Snowden published his book without submitting it to the agencies for pre-publication review, in violation of his express obligations under the agreements he signed. Additionally, the lawsuit alleges that Snowden has given public speeches on intelligence-related matters, also in violation of his non-disclosure agreements.

The United States’ lawsuit does not seek to stop or restrict the publication or distribution of Permanent Record. Rather, under well-established Supreme Court precedent, Snepp v. United States, the government seeks to recover all proceeds earned by Snowden because of his failure to submit his publication for pre-publication review in violation of his alleged contractual and fiduciary obligations.

The lawsuit also names as nominal defendants the corporate entities involved in publishing Snowden’s book. The United States is suing the publisher solely to ensure that no funds are transferred to Snowden, or at his direction, while the court resolves the United States’ claims. Snowden is currently living outside of the United States.

“Edward Snowden has violated an obligation he undertook to the United States when he signed agreements as part of his employment by the CIA and as an NSA contractor,” said Assistant Attorney General Jody Hunt of the Department of Justice’s Civil Division. “The United States’ ability to protect sensitive national security information depends on employees’ and contractors’ compliance with their non-disclosure agreements, including their pre-publication review obligations. This lawsuit demonstrates that the Department of Justice does not tolerate these breaches of the public’s trust. We will not permit individuals to enrich themselves, at the expense of the United States, without complying with their pre-publication review obligations.”

“Intelligence information should protect our nation, not provide personal profit,” said G. Zachary Terwilliger, U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia. “This lawsuit will ensure that Edward Snowden receives no monetary benefits from breaching the trust placed in him.”

This lawsuit is separate from the criminal charges brought against Snowden for his alleged disclosures of classified information. This lawsuit is a civil action, and based solely on Snowden’s failure to comply with the clear pre-publication review obligations included in his signed non-disclosure agreements.

This matter is being handled by the Department of Justice’s Civil Division and the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Eastern District of Virginia.

The claims asserted by the United States are allegations only; there has been no determination of liability.

Attachment(s):
Download snowden_complaint_final.pdf

Component(s):
Civil Division

Press Release Number:
19-988

Updated September 17, 2019

nolu chan  posted on  2019-09-21   22:04:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: nolu chan, Liberator (#21)

The claims asserted by the United States are allegations only; there has been no determination of liability.

Isn't that consistent with a pro forma case brought mainly to maintain the enforceability of NDAs with the feds in American courts?

They won't get any money from Snowden as his Lefty publisher no doubt pre-planned for this, probably is trying to get extra PR from the feds filing the lawsuit.

But the legal status of those NDAs will be maintained for anyone who remains under U.S. jurisdiction or within reach of our financial system. And that is probably the legal objective for DoJ.

I've pawed through the book some. The first third of it is a personal bio of his boyhood and teenage years and getting injured so he left the service voluntarily by signing a statement that he didn't hold the military responsible for his injuries or costs. But he got the multiple security checks and polygraph exams required to qualify for top secret clearances and that is how he, without a B.A. or even an A.A. normally required for NSA/CIA work, got hired and given top secret clearance to work for them directly, later switching over to being a Dell "contractor", a cover used quite often by the intel community to hide who really works for them and who doesn't.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-09-23   20:33:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Tooconservative, Liberator, Gatlin (#73)

Isn't that consistent with a pro forma case brought mainly to maintain the enforceability of NDAs with the feds in American courts?

They won't get any money from Snowden as his Lefty publisher no doubt pre-planned for this, probably is trying to get extra PR from the feds filing the lawsuit.

They do not seek money from Snowden. Snowden will get little, if any, money.

The government seeks to freeze any publication income from being provided to Snowden. The publisher gets to keep their profits, but anything payable to Snowden is contested and the government prays the Court to order that it be placed in a constructive trust. There is U.S. Supreme Court precedent for this (Snepp) quoted below. There is no incentive for Macmillan to get into a pissing contest with the Federal government, or to defy a court order which is extremely likely to be forthcoming.

At this nascent stage, the legal case consists of a COMPLAINT in a civil case. All COMPLAINTs consist of allegations.

At 1-2:

INTRODUCTION

1. The United States of America brings this civil action for breach of contract and fiduciary obligations against Defendant Edward Snowden, a United States citizen who formerly worked as a contractor and staff employee for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and was employed as a contract employee by the National Security Agency (NSA), and who published a book without submitting the manuscript for prepublication review and has given speeches without submitting the necessary materials for prepublication review, in violation of his secrecy agreements and non-disclosure obligations to the United States. As relief-defendants only, the United States also names Macmillan Publishers Inc.; Macmillan Publishing Group, LLC d/b/a Henry Holt and Company; and Holtzbrinck Publishers, LLC. No independent claims are asserted herein against the relief-defendants; rather, they are named as necessary parties for purposes of according the United States complete relief in this lawsuit. Through this suit, the United States is not seeking to enjoin or restrain publication or distribution of Snowden’s book.

At 6-8:

21. As a condition of employment, and under the terms of the CIA Secrecy Agreements, Snowden was required never to disclose in any form or manner, to any person not authorized by the CIA to receive it, any information obtained in the course of his employment or other service with CIA and that is classified or in the process of a classification determination. See CIA Secrecy Agreements ¶ 3.

22. As a condition of employment, and under the terms of the CIA Secrecy Agreements, Snowden was required to submit to the CIA for its review any writing or other preparation in any form, including a work of fiction, that Snowden contemplates disclosing publicly or has prepared for public disclosure, that “contains any mention of intelligence data or activities” or “contains any other information or material that might be based on” information obtained during the course of his CIA employment that is classified or in the process of a classification determination. See CIA Secrecy Agreements ¶ 5. This prepublication obligation applies both during his employment or other service with CIA and at any time thereafter. See id.

23. Snowden was required to submit his material for prepublication review “prior to discussing [the work] with or showing it to anyone who is not authorized to have access to” classified information. CIA Secrecy Agreements ¶ 5. Snowden was also required not to “take any steps towards public disclosure until [he] received written permission to do so from the Central Intelligence Agency.” Id.

24. As Snowden acknowledged in the CIA Secrecy Agreements, the purpose of this prepublication review “is to give the Central Intelligence Agency an opportunity to determine whether the information or material that I contemplate disclosing publicly contains any information or material that I have agreed not to disclose.” CIA Secrecy Agreements ¶ 6.

25. Snowden acknowledged and agreed in the CIA Secrecy Agreements that the obligations undertaken by him in executing the CIA Secrecy Agreements would remain valid and binding upon him after the termination of his employment with the CIA, unless he obtained a written release from the CIA. See CIA Secrecy Agreements ¶ 13.

26. Snowden also agreed in the CIA Secrecy Agreements that all classified information acquired by him during the course of his employment was the property of the United States Government, see CIA Secrecy Agreements ¶ 7; that there were established procedures for reporting any concerns about unlawful or improper intelligence activities, id. ¶ 9; and that if he violated any of the terms of the CIA Secrecy Agreements, the Government could institute a civil proceeding seeking compensatory damages or other appropriate relief, id. ¶ 10.

27. Snowden specifically agreed that, “[i]n addition to any other remedy to which the United States Government may become entitled, I hereby assign to the United States Government all rights, title, and interest in any and all royalties, remunerations and emoluments that have resulted or will result or may result from any divulgence, publication or revelation of information or material by me that is carried out in breach of [the prepublication obligation in] paragraph 5 of this agreement or that involves information or material prohibited from disclosure by the terms of this agreement.” CIA Secrecy Agreements ¶ 12.

At 23-25:

PRAYER FOR RELIEF WHEREFORE, the United States of America respectfully requests that the Court award the following relief:

A. Declare that Snowden has breached his contractual obligations, embodied in his CIA Secrecy Agreements and NSA Secrecy Agreements, as well as his fiduciary obligations;

B. Impose a constructive trust for the benefit of the United States over, and require an accounting of, all monies, gains, profits, royalties, and other advantages that Snowden and his agents, assignees, or others acting on his behalf have derived, or will derive, from the publication, sale, serialization, or republication in any form, including any movie rights or other reproduction rights, of Permanent Record;

C. Require Snowden and/or his agents, assignees, or others acting on his behalf to relinquish to the United States all monetary proceeds earned by them from Permanent Record;

D. Impose a constructive trust for the benefit of the United States over, and require an accounting of, all monies, gains, profits, royalties, and other advantages that Snowden and his agents, assignees, or others acting on his behalf have derived, or will derive, from speeches he has given disclosing information subject to his prepublication review obligations;

E. Require Snowden and/or his agents, assignees, or others acting on his behalf to relinquish to the United States all monetary proceeds earned by them from such speeches;

F. To the extent that any proceeds, revenues, gains, royalties or other advantages derived from Permanent Record or his speeches are no longer in Snowden’s possession or the possession of his agents, assignees, or others acting on his behalf, award the United States monetary damages against Snowden (and/or his agents, assignees, or others acting on his behalf) for such proceeds wrongfully obtained as a result of his breaches;

G. Enter a temporary restraining order and preliminary injunction freezing all assets in Macmillan’s possession relating to Permanent Record that belong to Snowden or his agents, assignees, or others acting on his behalf; prohibiting transfer or encumbrance of any of those assets; and requiring production of all contracts between Macmillan and Snowden (and/or his agents, assignees, or others acting on his behalf), as well as an accounting of all proceeds earned by Permanent Record, a description of all persons and entities with financial interests relating to Permanent Record and the nature of those interests, and a description of the process of disbursing funds to Snowden (and/or his agents, assignees, or others acting on his behalf);

H. Enter a permanent injunction requiring Macmillan to transfer to the United States all proceeds in Macmillan’s possession that Snowden and his agents, assignees, or others acting on his behalf have derived, or will derive, from the publication, sale, serialization, or republication in any form, including any movie rights or other reproduction rights, of Permanent Record;

I. Permanently enjoin Snowden from any further violations of his contractual and fiduciary obligations, including but not limited to public speeches discussing Permanent Record; any further written works; and any additional speeches that are within the scope of his prepublication review obligations without first undertaking the prepublication review process; and

J. Grant to the United States such other relief as the Court may deem just and proper, including, but not limited to, the Government’s costs herein.

Dated: September 17, 2019

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PRIOR CASE LAW:

https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-supreme-court/444/507.html

United States Supreme Court

SNEPP v. UNITED STATES (1980)

No. 78-1871

Argued: Decided: February 19, 1980

[ Footnote * ] Together with No. 79-265, United States v. Snepp, also on petition for certiorari to the same court.

Held:

A former employee of the Central Intelligence Agency, who had agreed not to divulge classified information without authorization and not to publish any information relating to the Agency without prepublication clearance, breached a fiduciary obligation when he published a book about certain Agency activities without submitting his manuscript for prepublication review. The proceeds of his breach are impressed with a constructive trust for the benefit of the Government.

Certiorari granted; 595 F.2d 926, reversed in part and remanded.

PER CURIAM.

In No. 78-1871, Frank W. Snepp III seeks review of a judgment enforcing an agreement that he signed when he accepted employment with the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). He also contends that punitive damages are an inappropriate remedy for the breach of his promise to submit all writings about the Agency for prepublication review. In No. 79-265, the United States conditionally cross petitions from a judgment refusing to find that profits attributable to Snepp's breach are impressed with a constructive trust. We grant the petitions for certiorari in order to correct the judgment from which both parties seek relief.

I

Based on his experiences as a CIA agent, Snepp published a book about certain CIA activities in South Vietnam. Snepp published the account without submitting it to the Agency for prepublication review. As an express condition of his employment with the CIA in 1968, however, Snepp had [444 U.S. 507, 508] executed an agreement promising that he would "not . . . publish . . . any information or material relating to the Agency, its activities or intelligence activities generally, either during or after the term of [his] employment . . . without specific prior approval by the Agency." App. to Pet. for Cert. in No. 78-1871, p. 59a. The promise was an integral part of Snepp's concurrent undertaking "not to disclose any classified information relating to the Agency without proper authorization." Id., at 58a. 1 Thus, Snepp had pledged not to divulge classified information and not to publish any information without prepublication clearance. The Government brought this suit to enforce Snepp's agreement. It sought a declaration that Snepp had breached the contract, an injunction requiring Snepp to submit future writings for prepublication review, and an order imposing a constructive trust for the Government's benefit on all profits that Snepp might earn from publishing the book in violation of his fiduciary obligations to the Agency. 2

The District Court found that Snepp had "willfully, deliberately and surreptitiously breached his position of trust with the CIA and the 1968. secrecy agreement" by publishing his book without submitting it for prepublication review. 456 F. Supp. 176, 179 (ED Va. 1978). The court also found that Snepp deliberately misled CIA officials into believing that he would submit the book for prepublication clearance. Finally, the court determined as a fact that publication of the book had "caused the United States irreparable harm and loss." [444 U.S. 507, 509] Id., at 180. The District Court therefore enjoined future breaches of Snepp's agreement and imposed a constructive trust on Snepp's profits.

The Court of Appeals accepted the findings of the District Court and agreed that Snepp had breached a valid contract. 3 It specifically affirmed the finding that Snepp's failure to submit his manuscript for prepublication review had inflicted "irreparable harm" on intelligence activities vital to our national security. 595 F.2d 926, 935 (CA4 1979). Thus, the court upheld the injunction against future violations of Snepp's prepublication obligation. The court, however, concluded that the record did not support imposition of a constructive trust. The conclusion rested on the court's perception [444 U.S. 507, 510] that Snepp had a First Amendment right to publish unclassified information and the Government's concession - for the purposes of this litigation - that Snepp's book divulged no classified intelligence. Id., at 935-936. 4 In other words, the court thought that Snepp's fiduciary obligation extended only to preserving the confidentiality of classified material. It therefore limited recovery to nominal damages and to the possibility of punitive damages if the Government - in a jury trial - could prove tortious conduct.

[...]

III

The decision of the Court of Appeals denies the Government the most appropriate remedy for Snepp's acknowledge wrong. Indeed, as a practical matter, the decision may well leave the Government with no reliable deterrent against similar breaches of security. No one disputes that the actual damages attributable to a publication such as Snepp's generally are unquantifiable. Nominal damages are a hollow alternative, certain to deter no one. The punitive damages recoverable after a jury trial are speculative and unusual. Even if recovered, they may bear no relation to either the Government's irreparable loss or Snepp's unjust gain.

The Government could not pursue the only remedy that the Court of Appeals left it 10 without losing the benefit of the bargain it seeks to enforce. Proof of the tortious conduct necessary to sustain an award of punitive damages might force the Government to disclose some of the very confidences that Snepp promised to protect. The trial of such a suit, before a jury if the defendant so elects, would subject the CIA and its [444 U.S. 507, 515] officials to probing discovery into the Agency's highly confidential affairs. Rarely would the Government run this risk. In a letter introduced at Snepp's trial, former CIA Director Colby noted the analogous problem in criminal cases. Existing law, he stated, "requires the revelation in open court of confirming or additional information of such a nature that the potential damage to the national security precludes prosecution." App. to Pet. for Cert. in No. 78-1871, p. 68a. When the Government cannot secure its remedy without unacceptable risks, it has no remedy at all.

A constructive trust, on the other hand, protects both the Government and the former agent from unwarranted risks. This remedy is the natural and customary consequence of a breach of trust. 11 It deals fairly with both parties by conforming relief to the dimensions of the wrong. If the agent secures prepublication clearance, he can publish with no fear of liability. If the agent publishes unreviewed material in violation of his fiduciary and contractual obligation, the trust remedy simply requires him to disgorge the benefits of his faithlessness. Since the remedy is swift and sure, it is tailored to deter those who would place sensitive information at risk. And since the remedy reaches only funds attributable to the [444 U.S. 507, 516] breach, it cannot saddle the former agent with exemplary damages out of all proportion to his gain. The decision of the Court of Appeals would deprive the Government of this equitable and effective means of protecting intelligence that may contribute to national security. We therefore reverse the judgment of the Court of Appeals insofar as it refused to impose a constructive trust on Snepp's profits, and we remand the cases to the Court of Appeals for reinstatement of the full judgment of the District Court.

So ordered.

nolu chan  posted on  2019-09-23   23:46:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: nolu chan (#74)

They do not seek money from Snowden. Snowden will get little, if any, money.

Snowden and the publisher knew in advance that this would be the case, that the feds would try to confiscate the proceeds.

I keep thinking that they must have had a signing bonus for Snowden and likely a final bonus for completing a book that the publisher was willing to bring to market. Maybe all of Snowden's income was front-loaded in the deal so he can't make any more money from the deal. There may also have been some sort of deal where Snowden got paid some portion of the initial first run of books prior to publication. The book apparently was for sale before the feds filed suit so Snowden had to make any money he was going to make from signing and completion bonuses and from front-loaded royalties, perhaps based solely on bookstore and Amazon pre-orders of his upcoming book.

It would be interesting to know the exact details of the Snowden deal with the publisher. I remain convinced that Snowden got paid or he wouldn't have written the book at all since he could otherwise hope for some change in the future after which he could get normal author's royalties.

I don't generally like NDAs but, if the feds are going to have them, they do have to enforce them even in a case where they won't get much money out of it.

D. Impose a constructive trust for the benefit of the United States over, and require an accounting of, all monies, gains, profits, royalties, and other advantages that Snowden and his agents, assignees, or others acting on his behalf have derived, or will derive, from speeches he has given disclosing information subject to his prepublication review obligations;

I see you bolded this portion concerning Snowden giving paid speeches or paid interviews about the book or anything described in it. Were you highlighting that the feds had closed off that avenue of income? Since the first third of the book is biographical and is about Snowden's upbringing until after he left boot camp, the feds are claiming he can't even discuss this biographical filler in a speech now without the feds claiming the income from it. In that sense, the federal government now owns the proceeds of any speech or writing that Snowden put in his biographical portion of the book. That bio - up to age 22 - constitutes 196 pages of a 642 page book.

By including his biographical info in this book, the DoJ now has the legal rights to seize the proceeds of any further paid interviews or paid speeches or subsequent biographical writing by Snowden about his own life, before the time he ever worked for the feds. Snowden can't talk about anything in his past that he mentioned in the book and get paid for it or Uncle Sam will demand the proceeds from any entity within the empire's legal reach.

I guess the message is: don't piss off the feds. I'm sure Snowden has gotten the message long since; this case is still largely about deterring anyone else from going rogue with America's secrets. And the feds really have little choice in doing so since they must demonstrate that they expect to legally enforce NDAs and punish whistleblowers to the max. Otherwise, the oaths and NDAs will mean nothing to any court.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-09-24   3:54:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Tooconservative (#75)

D. Impose a constructive trust for the benefit of the United States over, and require an accounting of, all monies, gains, profits, royalties, and other advantages that Snowden and his agents, assignees, or others acting on his behalf have derived, or will derive, from speeches he has given disclosing information subject to his prepublication review obligations;

I see you bolded this portion concerning Snowden giving paid speeches or paid interviews about the book or anything described in it. Were you highlighting that the feds had closed off that avenue of income?

I was pointing out the breadth of scope of the government claim. Note that it goes to speeches he has given disclosing information subject to his prepublication review obligations. The classified information he obtained is the property of the U.S. Government. The Government seeks to enjoin him from profiting from his unlawful acts, or the wrongful use of government property. If a book is contaminated with information subject to prepublication review obligations, the government can claim any derived income.

A new book, with no problematic content would not be subject to the same litigation.

nolu chan  posted on  2019-09-24   18:50:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#87. To: nolu chan (#85)

I was pointing out the breadth of scope of the government claim. Note that it goes to speeches he has given disclosing information subject to his prepublication review obligations. The classified information he obtained is the property of the U.S. Government. The Government seeks to enjoin him from profiting from his unlawful acts, or the wrongful use of government property. If a book is contaminated with information subject to prepublication review obligations, the government can claim any derived income.

I agree. Perhaps they wouldn't go after his biographical details but I seem to recall that he was going to make some paid speeches through a speakers bureau and it got abruptly cancelled. Fear of Uncle Sam's control of the global banking system, I think. After that, I don't think he gave any public paid speeches. One can imagine he could still get paid speech gigs in secret though.

A new book, with no problematic content would not be subject to the same litigation.

I think for Snowden, they'd cast a wide prosecutorial net and throw every charge in the book at him, just to see what sticks in court. That is, if he was ever foolish enough to return to the West (and if Russia would even allow him to leave Russia). I don't think he's ever been given the full rendition by the Russians and he says he has kept our most secret info to himself and not given it to any hostile power.

If I were Snowden, I wouldn't leave Russia. I'd try to escape Russia to a non-extradition country. But Russia is one of the safest bets for him to live as a fairly free man. They are likely to remain outside U.S. jurisdictional claims for decades into the future. The Russians just like to be our rivals and opponents, always did, going back to the tsars when they sailed their version of the Great White Fleet around the world, well, before the Japanese sank most of the Russian fleet (which they're still rather proud of).

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-09-24 20:09:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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