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Title: Why We Hate Cops
Source: THE LIBERTARIAN ENTERPRISE
URL Source: https://ncc-1776.org/tle2010/tle582-20100808-05.html
Published: Aug 8, 2010
Author: Paul Bonneau
Post Date: 2019-09-01 11:57:47 by Gatlin
Keywords: None
Views: 11342
Comments: 58

It should come as no surprise to anyone that deranged cop hating is integrated into your nature and character with roots having long ago been implanted among your Paultard libertarian classless ilk – traced back through the years all the way to 2010 and even further beyond.

To validate my charge against you, I refer you to article published in The Libertarian Enterprise and titled: Why We Hate Cops.

The article follows:

I remember the first time I heard anyone in "regular" society express hatred for cops (I'm not counting "revolutionary" times back in the '60's which on retrospect appear not to have been very serious). It was a friend of mine, a fellow engineer, who happened to like going fast on motorcycles, and he was complaining about a ticket he'd gotten. I was a bit shocked to hear him say that. I had thought until then of cops basically as decent people with an important job to do, with maybe a few "bad apples". I was pretty naive back then.

I've gotten the impression lately that cops aren't getting very much support in Internet forums these days, even in places where in the past you'd find almost unqualified support. About everyone seems fed up with 'em.

I wondered why this should be. Why are they becoming so much more frequently scorned?

Is it because they are parasites, tax eaters? They are that, but I find this implausible; if only because 95% of the population is on the dole in some way. Government schools, Socialist Security, Medicare, farmer and rancher subsidies, corporate welfare, people working for war materiel suppliers, the list goes on and on. It's hard to imagine folks getting riled about that aspect. Miss Smith the friendly librarian is no different, and who hates her? Cops are a waste of tax dollars, but so is everything government does with tax dollars.

I think one reason cops are hated is that people generally don't like being scrutinized, and put under suspicion for minding their own business; they really, really don't like that. Cops are always checking you out, looking for a reason to "brace" you (an old meaning of the word that looks very useful these days).

The War on Some Drugs has to cause some hatred, as more and more peoples' lives are ruined by it. Indeed, this prison industry boondoggle has stained all aspects of the "Justice" system, not just cops.

Another reason is that cops are treated, and see themselves, as superior to the rest of us. In innumerable ways, cops are always given the benefit of the doubt; certainly legally, and also informally—although the latter seems to be fading a bit, as trust in cops fades. They are "The Only Ones", we are "mundanes", "proles", peons. They can lie to us, we can't lie to them; they can beat us up and torture us, but if we touch them it is "assault".

Along with this insufferable attitude is a self-regard that what they are about is important and good. I suppose everyone suffers from this malady, but usually it does not impact a person as it does when one runs into a cop in the throes of it. As C.S. Lewis put it, "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good, will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." What are cops, if not "omnipotent moral busybodies"? At least when the Mafia runs a protection racket, they don't deceive themselves they are doing you a benefit. One appreciates the Mafia's honesty, in comparison.

Notice, all of the above applies to all cops, "good" and bad. Now, there is a significant fraction of rotten cops, and some departments are overrun with them. There are lots of cops who enjoy playing the bully. But do we hate cops because they are as imperfect as we are?

It's hard to say. On one hand, if a person agrees policing must be done, and that government must do it, then it would be somewhat irrational to fuss about a small percentage of bad cops (although getting them out—good luck—might be a reasonable aim). On the other hand, even for those who agree with these premises, it's one thing to talk about this theoretically—another thing entirely to watch a cop beating a pregnant woman on youtube.

There is one final reason to hate cops. All through history, every tyranny has used cops as its primary tool for sustaining that tyranny. They are the point of the government spear. And let's not deceive ourselves, although most "good" cops probably do deceive themselves about this—if we ever descended into a Nazi- or Stalinist-sized hellhole, few if any cops would resign. Some might feel bad about what they are doing, but they would never resign. Their livelihood comes first; it goes without saying. My guess though, is that this consideration does not enter peoples' minds when they are hating cops. It will if we decend into that hellhole, but not before.

People are questioning all sorts of government "benefits" these days, so it's not surprising cops are being questioned too. Looks like many folks are coming to the conclusion they are not worth the trouble.

Maybe it's just a return to sanity. Cops had it pretty good in this country for a long, long time. My impression, in talking to foreigners, is that cops are normally assumed to be crooks and thugs. Maybe we're just finally opening our eyes.

Salute,
Gatlin
[AKA: Parsons]

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#4. To: Gatlin (#0)

All through history, every tyranny has used cops as its primary tool for sustaining that tyranny. They are the point of the government spear. And let's not deceive ourselves, although most "good" cops probably do deceive themselves about this—if we ever descended into a Nazi- or Stalinist-sized hellhole, few if any cops would resign. Some might feel bad about what they are doing, but they would never resign.

Excellent point, thanks.

I'd add that probably 70% to 90% of cops will go door to door and confiscate guns when they are told to do so.

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#9. To: Deckard (#4)

All through history, every tyranny has used cops as its primary tool for sustaining that tyranny. They are the point of the government spear. And let's not deceive ourselves, although most "good" cops probably do deceive themselves about this—if we ever descended into a Nazi- or Stalinist-sized hellhole, few if any cops would resign. Some might feel bad about what they are doing, but they would never resign.

Excellent point, thanks.

Yes it is when the point is stated so as to be only applicable for tyrants.
Definition of tyrant: An absolute ruler unrestrained by law or constitution.

We have no absolute ruler unrestrained by law or constitution in American and we never will.

You need to remember the premise of the statement, which is:

… if we ever descended into a Nazi- or Stalinist-sized hellhole ….
Since that is never going to happen, you can therefore place a cap on your wildly rebellious anti-government fantasies.

I'd add that probably 70% to 90% of cops will go door to door and confiscate guns when they are told to do so.

Nah – No way. Things are what they are and not what you want to believe they are.

Besides you always have your glorious Oath Keepers to prevent tyranny, right?

Well maybe not – has anyone heard anything from or about them lately?

LOL - Oath Keepers ...

Salute,
Gatlin
[AKA: Parsons]

Gatlin  posted on  2019-09-01   20:03:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Gatlin, GrandIsland (#9)

LOL - Oath Keepers ...

I once believed in Oath Keepers.

Then I realized that much of what they were saying was that they intended to break their oaths in service of what they saw as a higher constitutional duty. As each one of them see their duty, and making minute-by-minute decisions about what is and is not constitutional and what constitutes lawful orders. But if you are police or professional military, you are, to your employer, inherently unstable and unworthy if you will not execute orders lawfully given to you by your lawful superiors. Some things do require teamwork and a willingness and readiness to just follow orders and do your damned job.

So I believed in Oath Keepers. At least for a few weeks when they first started up. Then I realized how phony the entire thing had to be. And it was. You can't allow people to exercise that much choice, minute-by-minute, in how they perform dangerous team-related tasks under supervision and in very tense fluid situations. It doesn't work and can't work when you are engaged in life-and-death situations. Either you take orders and follow orders and execute them to the best of your ability or you're just a Lone Ranger, out there calling balls and strikes by your own standards (which your employment status and training does not entitle you to). And it just doesn't work in team-related activities. Unlike Tonto, you can't rely on the Lone Ranger to ride over the hill to save the day. You're much better off with the guys who are part of a supervised and trained safety team. Like cops or firefighters or soldiers. Imperfect as they may be, they are still the guys you want when you're in trouble.

And then some meanspirited cophater-hater like you, Gatlin, comes along and tries to rub my nose in false premise of Oath Keepers.

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#31. To: Tooconservative (#13)

I once believed in Oath Keepers.
I never did. Surely you will recall that from my posting at the time.
And then some meanspirited cophater-hater like you, Gatlin, comes along and tries to rub my nose in false premise of Oath Keepers.
Oh dear God, I sincerely hope that I not only tried but that I successfully performed admirably in that grave undertaking – and that I contributed immensely to your education.

But there was nothing mean spirited in me while performing the much needed and well deserved “rubbing,” For I was never motivated by cruelty nor did I ever intend to be hurtful – I was merely performing a civic duty and doing it with the positive social force that bound me to the courses of action so demanded by that force.

Salute,
Gatlin

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