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Title: Will and Grace’ stars angry over Hollywood Trump fundraiser
Source: Page Six
URL Source: https://pagesix.com/2019/08/31/debr ... 67258560-1404792565.1563626181
Published: Sep 1, 2019
Author: Jon Levine
Post Date: 2019-09-01 09:39:26 by sneakypete
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They’re Will and no Grace.

Stars from the hit NBC series “Will and Grace” are upset about an Emmy week fundraiser in Beverly Hills for President Trump next month — and vow to name and shame anyone who dares to show up, hoping to blacklist participants from working in Hollywood.

“Please print a list of all attendees please. The public has a right to know,” Debra Messing tweeted Friday night in response to a Hollywood Reporter story on the upcoming event.

She and co-star Eric McCormack called for the outing of all Trump supporters who attend.

“Hey, @THR,” McCormack posted on Twitter. “Kindly report on everyone attending this event, so the rest of us can be clear about who we don’t wanna work with.

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You almost have to wonder if there is some sort of "special ed IQ test" these idiots have to take and pass in order to get their SAG cards. Here are two people who have basically been out of work for years since their sitcom was cancelled,and now it is being spun-up again and they have work,and here they are pissing off possible viewers. You have to wonder how long it's been since either has had any conversations with non-homosexual leftists,doesn't it? If it needs to be said,boycott that show and boycott all the sponsors and tell them why you are boycotting it. Subscribe to *Bang List*

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#1. To: sneakypete (#0)

You almost have to wonder if there is some sort of "special ed IQ test" these idiots have to take and pass in order to get their SAG cards. Here are two people who have basically been out of work for years since their sitcom was cancelled,and now it is being spun-up again and they have work,and here they are pissing off possible viewers. You have to wonder how long it's been since either has had any conversations with non-homosexual leftists,doesn't it? If it needs to be said,boycott that show and boycott all the sponsors and tell them why you are boycotting it.

I think there are more fundamental problems with this show. I finally watched some of it after it had been on for some years and thought I'd look to see what it actually offers as a portrayal of American gay subculture, just to see what they're injecting in the popular culture that is supposed to be "gay content".

The show is despicable and has been from its first episode.

If they are so pro-gay and all, then why is the star of the show a straight dude? Are they telling us by doing this that, in fact, in a country of 350M people, they can't find one likeable and somewhat charming gay man to play the part of the lead character in a show about a gay man and his lifelong female best friend?

And gay men don't actually have women as their best friends either. More often, a gay man's best friend is another gay man or ex-lover. Or it's two gay dudes who have some shared experience or they share a bar or club or what not but they are not actually attracted to each other sexually. Other than that, gay men's best friends are their sisters, or their mothers (very often), or maybe a female cousin.

So you have a fake gay man and his lifelong female fake best friend in this show, moralizing about gays in society and behaving as though they are some sort of exemplars or that they are important gay cultural leaders in America. When it is all just because they were hired to be in a queer show. And they aren't gay and they do lead very conventional lives as straight people in Hollyweird which is exactly what they are. The political preachiness is just a cover for the fundamental fakeness of the entire show.

Further, shows like Will & Grace depict a strange sterotyped notion of what gays are and what they do and what kind of relationships they have. And they purvey this as a kind of normalcy, both to straights who watch and even to gay people who watch. Their ideas about and expectations of gay people are shaped by these phony depictions from television. It's a straight ideology of what gayness is supposed to be, what kinds of persons - in the show or in real life - are "good gays" or "bad gays", who is a "good gay ally" and who is a "bad gay ally" and, most importantly, who is a "gay enemy".

Far from being a show that is gay-friendly, Will & Grace is Hollyweird's idea of what gay people are and should be and what their straight allies are and should be. And what is supposedly funny and/or charming about gay people and/or their straight allies.

The entire enterprise is fake, from beginning to end. And for Hollyweird people who enjoy publicly hating on Christians and traditional morality, it's a very preachy and smarmy show. I think that the preachiness and political elbows being thrown are the key ingredient to selling the show to the public as somehow being related to the cause of gaiety in American life. It is the preachy tone that provides the key cover to the fakery of Will (a straight man's gay man) and Grace (a fake "gay ally" and "best girl friend of a gay man") as some acceptable kind of entertainment that is in some sense about gays in America.

The whole show is a pile of rather sad and outdated stereotypes. I keep wondering how Teh Gays sit back and watch this crap which is actually derogatory to gays and is extremely unrealistic in how it depicts gays and their social lives. But I suppose Teh Gays don't feel they can afford to offend Teh Hollyweird because they are cultural and political allies.

Of course, some people will complain about my cynicism. I expect the same people will complain that next I'll be saying that Sex In The City was a fake too or something un-American like that.

DailyWire: ‘Sex and the City’ Author Regrets Not Having Kids: I Felt ‘Truly Alone’

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Gee, imagine my surprise in learning that career women who prioritize an urban lifestyle of friendship with women similar to themselves while trying to have no-strings-attached sex lives with a lot of different men and not having children, that women like these might have some regrets about their choices when they get older and lose their sex appeal and see their friends who chose to have a family with their children and grandchildren, cruising off into old age with people who are close to them.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-09-02   6:27:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: sneakypete (#0)

What if some man who identifies as a woman punches the cunt in the face?

A K A Stone  posted on  2019-09-02   7:23:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Tooconservative (#1)

If they are so pro-gay and all, then why is the star of the show a straight dude?

He's not straight. He is as queer as a 3 dollar bill. He just dresses and acts straight because he has some sort of public job.

The only one straight in the show is the woman,and she is his "beard".

And gay men don't actually have women as their best friends either. More often, a gay man's best friend is another gay man or ex-lover.

You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. I have known several homosexual men pretty well,and am even related to a couple of them. Not a single one of them has a male homosexual best friend. Their best friends are always hetero women. Don't forget,that is who they THINK they ARE.

And they aren't gay and they do lead very conventional lives as straight people in Hollyweird which is exactly what they are.

The guy that plays Jack is so light in the loafers they have to keep a rope tied to an ankle to keep him from floating away. He's "out" in public,too.

I think the chick with the hair dyed red is straight and married,but I have no idea about the other guy. I THINK he is hetero,but this is Hollywood and he is a Dim,so who knows?

AFATG,aren't ALL Dims more than a little queer,one way or the other?

Far from being a show that is gay-friendly, Will & Grace is Hollyweird's idea of what gay people are and should be and what their straight allies are and should be. And what is supposedly funny and/or charming about gay people and/or their straight allies.

From what I have read,the guy that created the series and all the writers are fruitcakes. I am pretty sure they know more about the typical "at home" life of homos than either of us.

Can't tell you anything about Sex in the City. I tried to watch it once on a motel tv while on a road trip (didn't have a sat dish or cable at home back then),and it made my head hurt,so I changed the channel.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2019-09-02   12:08:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: A K A Stone (#2)

What if some man who identifies as a woman punches the cunt in the face?

I don't understand the question,but I THINK the answer to what you are asking is that he would probably be arrested and charged as a man striking a woman.

I have no idea as to the legality or correctness of those suspected charges. I am not a lawyer,and don't even play one on teebee.

I THINK I remember reading that some (most? all?) male prisons in the US now have a separate section for homosexual men who are afraid of being in gen pop,and IF this is true I suspect that it would have to be the same for lesbians in women's prisons.

I doubt there are very many prisoners in either,though. A homo being locked up with a bunch of straights with no access to women would be like a fish thrown into the water,so why would they complain?

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2019-09-02   12:15:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: sneakypete (#0)

Who in the hell is Will and Grace? No doubt some program designed to entertain people with an IQ around room temperature.

Liberals are like Slinkys. They're good for nothing, but somehow they bring a smile to your face as you shove them down the stairs.

IbJensen  posted on  2019-09-03   11:04:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: sneakypete (#3)

He's not straight. He is as queer as a 3 dollar bill. He just dresses and acts straight because he has some sort of public job.

Listen carefully: America does not tolerate openly gay actors as lead characters in movies or TV shows.

The character Will is played by a straight man.

The new Marvel movie is being made with Marvel's first gay superhero. Who will be played by a straight man. Like we couldn't see that coming a mile away.

McCormack has been married to Janet Leigh Holden, whom he met on the set of Lonesome Dove,[11] since August 1997.[84] They have a son.[85] McCormack maintains residences in Los Angeles and Vancouver.[86] He became a US citizen in 1999 and holds dual Canadian and US citizenship.

If there's one guy the gays would out if they could, it's this Canadian guy. He's straight. Married to a woman since '97 and they have a son.

The guy that plays Jack is so light in the loafers they have to keep a rope tied to an ankle to keep him from floating away. He's "out" in public,too.

No one disputes that he is gay.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-09-03   17:36:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: IbJensen, sneakypete, A K A Stone (#5)

Well, well, well, some backlash has occurred.

HotAir: Backlash: Actor calls for blacklisting Trump’s Hollywood donors

The guy who played Will called for outing the Trump supporters, got roundly called a Canadian fascist on Twitter, slinked away.

Hey, @THR, kindly report on everyone attending this event, so the rest of us can be clear about who we don’t wanna work with. Thx. https://t.co/7W3xPG3bI2

— Eric McCormack (@EricMcCormack) August 30, 2019


HotAir: Angry Whoopi Goldberg blasts actress Debra Messing: How dare you try to blacklist Trump supporters?

The chick who played Grace (rather untalented) called for an actual blacklist of names of those who attend/donate to Trump. Even Whoopi couldn't stand it. Or Whoopi was just mad she didn't think of it first so this was her way to get in on that sweet blacklist controversy action while nominally opposing it.

Please print a list of all attendees please. The public has a right to know. https://t.co/YV4UoxrPHI

— Debra Messing (@DebraMessing) August 31, 2019




Never doubt the lengths these attention whores will go to just to keep the camera on them, day after day.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-09-03   18:58:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A K A Stone (#2)

What if some man who identifies as a woman punches the cunt in the face?

He/she/multiple choice would probably be immediately murdered by the homo mafia.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2019-09-04   21:10:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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