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Title: PA man convicted of firing ‘finger gun’ at neighbor
Source: From The Trenches
URL Source: https://fromthetrenchesworldreport. ... -finger-gun-at-neighbor/253427
Published: Aug 30, 2019
Author: Victor Skinner
Post Date: 2019-08-31 14:33:55 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 1362
Comments: 15

American Mirror – by Victor Skinner

A Pennsylvania man was fined $100, plus court costs, for waving a finger gun at his neighbor, who reportedly felt “extremely threatened” by the ordeal.

The incident occurred last June when 64-year-old Manor Township resident Stephen Kirchner was walking in his neighborhood with a female neighbor and a homeowner who had a simmering dispute with the woman flipped him two middle fingers, he told police.

Court records allege Kirchner then “stopped, made eye contact with (the male neighbor) and then made a hand gesture at him imitating the firing and recoiling of a gun,” Fox News reports.

The pretend shooting was caught on cameras installed by the homeowner as part of the dispute with Kirchner’s female companion, who was also the subject of a no-contact order, according to WGAL.

The gesture allegedly made the targeted neighbor feel “extremely threatened,” while another who witnessed the reckless finger firing told police she also felt “insecure” about the situation and called 911.

Police issued Kirchner a citation for disorderly conduct and he was convicted in January after testifying in his own defense. Kirchner did not deny he made the gesture, but said it was in response to the neighbor who “gave (him) the finger with both hands,” according to court records.

Kirchner appealed the conviction and “argued on appeal that the gesture did not cause a hazardous or physical offensive condition, that he did not intend to cause public alarm, and that there essentially was no harm done to the victim or society,” according to a statement from the DA’s office to WGAL.

The Superior Court of Pennsylvania on Tuesday disagreed with Kirchner’s argument and concluded he did create a “hazardous condition” when he popped off his finger gun because it “risked an altercation.”

“… Kirchner … approached (the neighbor) in his own backyard, created a gun-like hand gesture, pointed it at (the neighbor), and made a recoil motion as if to suggest he had shot him,” according to the court ruling. “This act served no legitimate purpose, and recklessly risked provoking a dangerous situation.”

The court found Kirchner “did, in fact, cause public alarm, annoyance or inconvenience” because the neighbor “felt extremely threatened and (the neighbor witness) felt insecure enough following her observation of the incident that she called emergency services.

“The (lower) court concluded that Kirchner’s conduct ‘caused the very harm sought to be prevented by the law defining the offense’” and the Superior Court could “discern no abuse of discretion of this analysis,” according to the ruling.

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#1. To: Deckard (#0)

Court records allege Kirchner then “stopped, made eye contact with (the male neighbor) and then made a hand gesture at him imitating the firing and recoiling of a gun,” Fox News reports.

The pretend shooting was caught on cameras installed by the homeowner as part of the dispute with Kirchner’s female companion, who was also the subject of a no-contact order, according to WGAL.

Kinda stupid to make handgun gestures toward someone who already has a non-contact court order against you. The gesture can never be a friendly one in any way.

There's more to this story of hostile neighbors than we are reading in this article.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-08-31   14:38:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Tooconservative (#1) (Edited)

Kinda stupid to make handgun gestures toward someone who already has a non-contact court order against you.

I disagree. Even tho the burden to “stay away” is on the defendant/respondent, they were still BOTH in a public access area. They both live in the same neighborhood. So, I feel he should be allowed his constitutional freedoms, around his home. This was a bad ruling... and a slippery slope of loss of 1st amendment protections. To wit; a finger gun is harmless... who gives a shit if the plaintiff is a scared fucking sheep.

GrandIsland  posted on  2019-08-31   15:48:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: GrandIsland, nolu chan, Deckard (#2)

Even tho the burden to “stay away” is on the defendant/respondent, they were still BOTH in a public access area.

True. And they are neighbors so there is a limit to how much the judge's order can separate them without it running afoul of their equal right to choose the location of their residency.

However, the guy making the pistol gesture had already lost in court by him and his GF having no-contact court orders filed against them. In any subsequent complaint, they were automatically disadvantaged unless another superior court judge could be persuaded to countermand the first judge. And the odds against that happening are very high.

There is a strategic advantage in being the first person to run to court and tell some lies or half-truths about your opponent, a dirty secret of the rule of law.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-08-31   17:41:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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There is a strategic advantage in being the first person to run to court and tell some lies or half-truths about your opponent, a dirty secret of the rule of law.

Well, in most cases, and most states, after a restraining order is issued (if it’s not part of a plea deal), there is a separate hearing to determine if there is just cause for it... so there is some due process.

I’d have felt better about the ruling if the issue was the defendant made “contact”, via a hand gesture, when any and all contact (including through third persons) was ordered to not happen. In this case, the arresting officer worked off the premises of “harassment” because the plaintiff was “scared” of a finger gun. I find that ridiculous, and a violation of his freedoms of expression.

Quite simply, I feel that society is being pussified, and that will play a large part in the indoctrination of over sensitivity, and an emotionally WEAK sheep, is easier to keep enabled.

I loath weakness. It is the single biggest enemy to our number one concern as a species... survival.

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