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Title: Owner of 3 Pit Bulls That Mauled 9-Year-Old Girl to Death Charged with Murder
Source: LawAndCrime
URL Source: https://lawandcrime.com/crazy/owner ... -to-death-charged-with-murder/
Published: Aug 22, 2019
Author: Matt Clibanoff
Post Date: 2019-08-27 01:48:49 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 11139
Comments: 88

Pierre Cleveland, 33, the owner of the three pit bulls that mauled a 9-year-old Detroit girl to death, has been charged with murder.

According to the victim’s family, Emma Hernandez, 9, was riding her bike on Monday when dogs attacked her in an alley around 4 p.m. Family members said that she often rode her bike in the area around Central Avenue and Smart Street and was probably trying to use a nearby alley to turn around.

Among the various neighbors who came out to help Hernandez was Deborah Gordon, a woman who lives down the block. She reportedly tried to perform CPR and was shocked by what happened.

“You’re talking about a 9-year-old girl who was just out there playing, and now she’s not here,” she told Fox 6 Now.

To make matters worse, one of the people who ran towards the attack was Hernandez’s 12-year-old brother. While most of Hernandez’s immediate family wanted privacy, they did say that the dogs often roamed around the streets of their neighborhood; Hernandez’s father said he had an argument with the dog owner about it within the past week.

“I knew the dogs were there. I knew the neighbor,” Armando Hernandez said. “We had an argument about it just last week and he just didn’t take care of his dogs properly. He could have prevented this.”

During the attack, neighbors shot one of the pit bulls. Following the attack, the dogs were taken by Detroit Animal Care and Control. “Due to the severity of this case, it is very likely that the dogs will be euthanized,” officials said in a statement.

Cleveland has reportedly been charged with having a dangerous animal, causing death, involuntary manslaughter, and second-degree murder.

“It shouldn’t have happened,” said Claudia Stapleton, Hernandez’s aunt. “They should have been more careful with their dogs. This is her neighborhood. She should be able to be free and do what every kid does. Walk around, ride their bikes, they shouldn’t be afraid in their own neighborhood. It’s very devastating.”

Cleveland is currently being held with a $2 million bail and is scheduled to appear in court on Aug. 30 for a probable cause conference. His preliminary examination is set for Sept. 6, ClickonDetroit reported.


Poster Comment:

I am always happy to see pitbull owners prosecuted. I have a friend who owns one, unhappy last year that the city fined him for letting it escape and run wild, forced him to build a pen. I told him that I like seeing pitbull owners prosecuted because they are an inherently dangerous and unstable breed. We aren't as close now for some reason. Hell, he just leaves it in the crappy pen they made him build, neglected and living a useless unhappy life. He doesn't even care about that dog. (2 images)

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#1. To: Tooconservative (#0)

Owner of 3 Pit Bulls That Mauled 9-Year-Old Girl to Death Charged with Murder
Sigh …

During the attack, neighbors shot one of the pit bulls.
If only some lowly public servant police officer had been there to shoot all of these dogs and prevent this tragic death …

Oh Well …

DogsBite.org:

There were 36 U.S. dog bite-related fatalities occurred in 2018. Pit bulls contributed to 72% (26) of these deaths.”
Poster [Tooconservative] Comment:
I am always happy to see pitbull owners prosecuted.
I hsve absolutely no problem when police officers shoot them – While some folks do …

Gatlin  posted on  2019-08-27   3:45:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Gatlin (#1) (Edited)

I hsve absolutely no problem when police officers shoot them – While some folks do …

If a pitbull is mauling your grandchild to death right in front of you, I recommend you just shoot it and not wait for the cops to shop up 30-40 minutes later.

Strange how you tried to take this in the direction of police posts in general. You're trying to dragging the cops into a non-cop story.

Hammer, nail.

I did like how they had a mug shot of him first and then the second one showing him weeping in shame. Gee, maybe he should have locked up his dogs before they killed an innocent little girl. Hence, the second photo.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-08-27   4:06:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Tooconservative (#2)

Gee, maybe he should have locked up his dogs before they killed an innocent little girl. Hence, the second photo.

The second photo is, "Woe is me. They charged me with murder".

misterwhite  posted on  2019-08-27   9:32:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: misterwhite (#4)

The second photo is, "Woe is me. They charged me with murder".

I enjoyed the remorse. I still want him convicted and in prison.

I would vote to convict so fast... Hell, I'd probably start laughing at the defense attorney as soon as he started to present his case.

I intensely dislike people who keep vicious dogs and don't supervise them closely. My friendship with a good friend was kind of ruined after his German shepherd - which he trained to be aggressive and had used it to attack a few guys that were menacing him - almost ripped half of his toddler niece's face off at a family BBQ. He told me that he thought she might have stepped on its tail or something (I didn't buy it). There was always something a little menacing about that dog and he knew it. She had extensive reconstructive surgery but still has visible scars from it as an adult. That was entirely preventable. You prevent it by shooting the dog before it hurts children. Then you get a nice friendly dog, like a golden Lab. Or a little dog that can't actually do that much harm to a person, even a child.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-08-27   10:12:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Tooconservative (#6)

She had extensive reconstructive surgery but still has visible scars from it as an adult. That was entirely preventable. You prevent it by shooting the dog before it hurts children. Then you get a nice friendly dog, like a golden Lab. Or a little dog that can't actually do that much harm to a person, even a child.

BTW,I once lived with the best damn dog that was ever born,a BIG adult female Doberman that followed my 7 lb female cat home one day. When I opened the door to let the cat in,the Doberman came in too,crawled up in a chair,and laid down to take a nap. The cat jumped up in the chair to nap with her,so I wasn't all that worried. Biggest worry was she might be half as mean as the cat.

Didn't turn out that way. Someone had obviously abandoned her as he was an adult who had puppies in the past,and she had no collar or ID.

Nicest damn dog you have ever seen,as long as there were no children around and you didn't try to threaten the children in ANY respect,or didn't try to threaten me.Either was a BIG time Bozo No-No.

Other than that,she was a real sweetheart that loved to drink beer and eat hotdogs. I tried giving her some white whiskey once,but quickly figured out that was bad idea and never did it again.

People used to call me up and invited me to parties,but the truth is they were invited the Dobie because they always said "Make sure you bring Natasha."

The ONLY time I ever saw her go onto alert around strangers where when some fool was acting in a threatening manner towards me,or when someone left a baby laying around at a party. The instant she spotted a baby,she would run over to sit down beside it and snarl at anybody that got close. Which pretty much agreed with my philosophy of life that states "ANYONE who purposely harms a baby needs to have their asses chewed up and spit out",so I never tried to alter that behavior.

The day she died was the saddest day of my life. I miss her so much I can't own another dog because I couldn't stand the loss again.

It was dogs like her that were responsible for the creation of the saying "If you want to live a just life,TRY to be the man your dog THINKS you are." No truer words have ever been spoken.

BTW,I THINK I read that somewhere,but it's possible I came up with it on my own. I couldn't agree with it any more regardless of who first thought it.

sneakypete  posted on  2019-08-28   15:52:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: sneakypete (#15)

I had an outstanding dog and a horse and a cat. They had great attributes as animals and companions and could do some astonishing things.

But they were not human beings.

I have known a few people who get overly attached to animals, sometimes to the point that they end up without human companionship. I was always careful not to elevate an animal to the status of a human being. This isn't India where we let people starve because we worship the docile qualities of cattle so much that we won't slaughter a cow to feed starving people.

I don't mean to sound cold but I never equate an animal with human beings and I never will. Primitive societies have done that sort of thing and it is always an error. Animals are animals and, whatever their attributes, are never the equal of a human being.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-08-28   18:00:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Tooconservative (#17)

I had an outstanding dog and a horse and a cat. They had great attributes as animals and companions and could do some astonishing things.

But they were not human beings.

Lucky you!

I don't mean to sound cold but I never equate an animal with human beings and I never will.

You have my sympathy if you think that is a good thing.

sneakypete  posted on  2019-08-29   13:11:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: sneakypete (#19)

A (relatively) local man had a mean dog. The cops came out after it scared a delivery guy very badly, tried to get him to confine it. He refused, told them to go away.

A few months later, it killed his two children. No one knew why. The dog was destroyed. The family was destroyed.

No animal is worth more than a person. We may love an individual dog more than we love any person we know but that does not make the dog worth more than a human.

People personify animals they adore. But those feelings we have for them do not make them into a person.

I think this would be apparent to more people if they didn't have cute features and pretty fur. A dog without the fur would never be as loved. And dogs are so much prettier now than they were 50 years ago. They have more appealing features that make them appear to have more personality. They are the same animals, just much prettier therefore we endow them emotionally with more human qualities. There are scientific studies about this.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-08-29   16:24:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Tooconservative (#20)

A (relatively) local man had a mean dog. The cops came out after it scared a delivery guy very badly, tried to get him to confine it. He refused, told them to go away.

A few months later, it killed his two children. No one knew why.

Good thing people never do anything like that,huh?

sneakypete  posted on  2019-08-30   1:02:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: sneakypete, A K A Stone (#22)

Animals aren't people. And they can be as good or bad as people, with or without cause, just like people can be.

I don't think they merit being considered equal to people but I know that they are not better than people.

People give excess loyalty to dogs because dogs are so loyal to them because they see them as the alpha male of the dog pack, the dominant male that their lives revolve around. It is more appealing emotionally than most people realize. But dogs are, essentially, psychopaths. They can't have a conscience because they can't possess a real sense of what we call right and wrong; they have no actual remorse or shame but they are good at faking it, just as they are programmed by instinct to go belly-up to show submission to an alpha male or alpha female in a dog pack. They inherit this behavior from their wolf ancestors. They are good at pretending remorse if their alpha male is angry at them. Again, we read into their display a genuine human-like remorse. It is we who project these human characteristics onto them, qualities they cannot possibly possess.

Dogs are the finest companion animals because they are so well-suited to humans in so many ways. But they are still just animals and can never be more.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-08-30   9:15:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Tooconservative (#23)

But they are still just animals and can never be more.

MOST people are nothing but animals. True,Dim voters and Antifa people are vegetables,but vegetable that started as human animals.

sneakypete  posted on  2019-08-30   21:46:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#25. To: sneakypete (#24)

MOST people are nothing but animals.

I don't think you really mean that.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-08-31 00:18:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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