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Title: Obama lied about the Supreme Court's ruling
Source: corner.nationalreview.com
URL Source: http://corner.nationalreview.com/po ... EzOGQ3MTMwYzgzYjNmODBiMzQzZjk=
Published: Jan 28, 2010
Author: Bradley A. Smith
Post Date: 2010-01-28 12:45:27 by dont eat that
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Views: 966
Comments: 9

Tonight the president engaged in demogoguery of the worst kind, when he claimed that last week's Supreme Court decision in Citizens United v. FEC, "open[ed] the floodgates for special interests — including foreign corporations — to spend without limit in our elections. Well I don't think American elections should be bankrolled by America's most powerful interests, or worse, by foreign entities."

The president's statement is false.

The Court held that 2 U.S.C. Section 441a, which prohibits all corporate political spending, is unconstitutional. Foreign nationals, specifically defined to include foreign corporations, are prohibiting from making "a contribution or donation of money or ather thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State or local election" under 2 U.S.C. Section 441e, which was not at issue in the case. Foreign corporations are also prohibited, under 2 U.S.C. 441e, from making any contribution or donation to any committee of any political party, and they prohibited from making any "expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication."

This is either blithering ignorance of the law, or demogoguery of the worst kind.

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#1. To: dont eat that (#0)

Its demogoguery. Even the Left's Constitutional Scholars are saying so.

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Badeye  posted on  2010-01-28   12:54:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#0) (Edited)

ABBEY NATL N AMERICA LLC - US incorporated subsidiary of Abbey National Bank PLC

Panasonic Finance America - US incorporated subsidiary of Panasonic Corporation, Japan

Nestle Capital Corp - US incorporated subsidiary Nestle VX, Switzerland

Cadbury Schwepps Finance - US incorporated subisidary of Cadbury Schwepps PLC England

Lukoil US Funding - US incorporated subisidary of Lukoil Russis....

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Each of the above is a 100% US corporation.

war  posted on  2010-01-28   13:04:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: war (#2)

The president's statement is false.

The Court held that 2 U.S.C. Section 441a, which prohibits all corporate political spending, is unconstitutional. Foreign nationals, specifically defined to include foreign corporations, are prohibiting from making "a contribution or donation of money or ather thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State or local election" under 2 U.S.C. Section 441e, which was not at issue in the case. Foreign corporations are also prohibited, under 2 U.S.C. 441e, from making any contribution or donation to any committee of any political party, and they prohibited from making any "expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication."

This is either blithering ignorance of the law, or demogoguery of the worst kind.

If you see comments designed to distract from the article, you are informed the poster is out of ammo....

Badeye  posted on  2010-01-28   13:09:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Badeye, war (#3)

The court specifically did "NOT" decide on whether foreign owned companies with U.S. subsidiaries are still subject to contribution limits, however it looks like there is no way to limit their activities under this ruling. (see: www.scotusblog.com/2010/0...en-questions/#more-15341)

Folks need to remember that Obama was a constitutional law professor at one time, he knows this stuff. It still seems as if it is difficult for folks to realize that we now have an intelligent President.

go65  posted on  2010-01-28   13:43:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: go65 (#4)

Obama Makes Bush Look Like a Genius

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article16710.html

dont eat that  posted on  2010-01-28   13:48:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: go65 (#4)

Folks need to remember that Obama was a constitutional law professor

False.

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Badeye  posted on  2010-01-28   13:52:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: go65 (#4)

Q: Was Barack Obama really a constitutional law professor? When I was in law school, I addressed all of my course instructors as "professors," regardless of their rank or formal position in the school academic hierarchy (tenured professor, assistant professor, adjunct professor, lecturer, etc.). Was Obama exaggerating or factually wrong in referring to himself as a "constitutional law professor" at the University of Chicago Law School even though his official title was lecturer? A: His formal title was "senior lecturer," but the University of Chicago Law School says he "served as a professor" and was "regarded as" a professor. Sen. Obama, who has taught courses in constitutional law at the University of Chicago, has regularly referred to himself as "a constitutional law professor," most famously at a March 30, 2007, fundraiser when he said, "I was a constitutional law professor, which means unlike the current president I actually respect the Constitution." A spokesman for the Republican National Committee immediately took exception to Obama’s remarks, pointing out that Obama’s title at the University of Chicago was "senior lecturer" and not "professor."

Recently, Hillary Clinton's campaign has picked up on this charge. In a March 27 conference call with reporters, Clinton spokesman Phil Singer claimed:

Singer (March 27): Sen. Obama has often referred to himself as “a constitutional law professor” out on the campaign trail. He never held any such title. And I think anyone, if you ask anyone in academia the distinction between a professor who has tenure and an instructor that does not, you’ll find that there is … you’ll get quite an emotional response.

The campaign also sent out an e-mail quoting an Aug. 8, 2004, column in the Chicago Sun-Times that criticized Obama for calling himself a professor when, in fact, the University of Chicago faculty page listed him as “a senior lecturer (now on leave)." The Sun-Times said, "In academia, there is a vast difference between the two titles. Details matter." The Clinton campaign added that the difference between senior lecturers and professors is that "professors have tenure while lecturers do not."

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Badeye  posted on  2010-01-28   13:54:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Badeye (#6)

False.

True:

www.factcheck.org/askfact...a_constitutional_law.html

go65  posted on  2010-01-28   14:06:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: go65 (#8)

(laughing) Uh huh, bout as legitimate as the 'professor' on Gilligan's Island. But whatever...

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Badeye  posted on  2010-01-28   14:10:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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