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Title: Obama lied about the Supreme Court's ruling
Source: corner.nationalreview.com
URL Source: http://corner.nationalreview.com/po ... EzOGQ3MTMwYzgzYjNmODBiMzQzZjk=
Published: Jan 28, 2010
Author: Bradley A. Smith
Post Date: 2010-01-28 12:45:27 by dont eat that
Keywords: None
Views: 1135
Comments: 9

Tonight the president engaged in demogoguery of the worst kind, when he claimed that last week's Supreme Court decision in Citizens United v. FEC, "open[ed] the floodgates for special interests — including foreign corporations — to spend without limit in our elections. Well I don't think American elections should be bankrolled by America's most powerful interests, or worse, by foreign entities."

The president's statement is false.

The Court held that 2 U.S.C. Section 441a, which prohibits all corporate political spending, is unconstitutional. Foreign nationals, specifically defined to include foreign corporations, are prohibiting from making "a contribution or donation of money or ather thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State or local election" under 2 U.S.C. Section 441e, which was not at issue in the case. Foreign corporations are also prohibited, under 2 U.S.C. 441e, from making any contribution or donation to any committee of any political party, and they prohibited from making any "expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication."

This is either blithering ignorance of the law, or demogoguery of the worst kind.

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ABBEY NATL N AMERICA LLC - US incorporated subsidiary of Abbey National Bank PLC

Panasonic Finance America - US incorporated subsidiary of Panasonic Corporation, Japan

Nestle Capital Corp - US incorporated subsidiary Nestle VX, Switzerland

Cadbury Schwepps Finance - US incorporated subisidary of Cadbury Schwepps PLC England

Lukoil US Funding - US incorporated subisidary of Lukoil Russis....

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Each of the above is a 100% US corporation.

war  posted on  2010-01-28   13:04:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: war (#2)

The president's statement is false.

The Court held that 2 U.S.C. Section 441a, which prohibits all corporate political spending, is unconstitutional. Foreign nationals, specifically defined to include foreign corporations, are prohibiting from making "a contribution or donation of money or ather thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State or local election" under 2 U.S.C. Section 441e, which was not at issue in the case. Foreign corporations are also prohibited, under 2 U.S.C. 441e, from making any contribution or donation to any committee of any political party, and they prohibited from making any "expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication."

This is either blithering ignorance of the law, or demogoguery of the worst kind.

Badeye  posted on  2010-01-28   13:09:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Badeye, war (#3)

The court specifically did "NOT" decide on whether foreign owned companies with U.S. subsidiaries are still subject to contribution limits, however it looks like there is no way to limit their activities under this ruling. (see: www.scotusblog.com/2010/0...en-questions/#more-15341)

Folks need to remember that Obama was a constitutional law professor at one time, he knows this stuff. It still seems as if it is difficult for folks to realize that we now have an intelligent President.

go65  posted on  2010-01-28   13:43:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: go65 (#4)

Folks need to remember that Obama was a constitutional law professor

False.

Badeye  posted on  2010-01-28   13:52:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Badeye (#6)

False.

True:

www.factcheck.org/askfact...a_constitutional_law.html

go65  posted on  2010-01-28   14:06:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#9. To: go65 (#8)

(laughing) Uh huh, bout as legitimate as the 'professor' on Gilligan's Island. But whatever...

Badeye  posted on  2010-01-28 14:10:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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