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Title: Happy Birthday, Ron
Source: Lew Rockwell
URL Source: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2019/08/jeff-deist/happy-birthday-ron/
Published: Aug 21, 2019
Author: Jeff Deist
Post Date: 2019-08-21 07:48:38 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 4470
Comments: 52

The remarkable life of Ron Paul began in Pittsburgh 84 years ago today, in 1935—seven months after Elvis Aaron Presley came into the world. We wish him a very happy birthday, and many more years of health and productivity.

It’s a rare person who peaks later in life, but Dr. Paul manages to do just that. Anyone who meets him notices his energy, his distate for waiting or standing still, honed by decades as a doctor. In his eighties he is exceedingly fit, riding his bike, walking, tending his garden, and frequently hosting family and guests at his home. His daily Liberty Report, live on YouTube, provides an excellent outlet for his pro-peace message without the constraints (and tedious travel) of Congress.

Born into the teeth of America’s Depression, young Ron was fortunate that his father’s dairy business survived very tough times in the Steel City. His early years found him racing back and forth from the delivery truck early in the morning, in all kinds of weather, replacing empty bottles with fresh milk and cream. This earned him a few cents, as did cleaning bottles and inspecting eggs with a special lamp to discard those with blood spots. His work ethic carried over into a notable high school career as a track athlete, where he set the Pennsylvania state record in the 200 meter dash. During those same years in Pittsburgh he was doubly fortunate to meet his future bride Carol Wells. A teenage Carol summoned up the courage to ask him, in 1952, to escort her to a Sadie Hawkins party for her 16th birthday.

They’ve been together ever since, and married more than sixty years. The couple sits atop of a family pyramid of children (5, including 3 MDs), grandchildren (19), and great granchildren (10 and counting). Ron points out that none of his children graduated from college with debt.

Medicine was his calling, so after Gettyburg College in Pennsylvania the Pauls headed off to Duke medical school in the late 1950s. The Korean War interrupted toward the end of his residency, so rather than facing buck-private status as a draftee Ron reluctantly enlisted in the Air Force as a flight surgeon. His rationale was simple: intead of carrying a rifle and killing peope, he would be a healer.

He likes to recall a memorable moment from his Air Force years, during a refueling stop in Afghanistan. A superior office looked up at the Khyber Pass mountain, and said, “See those mountains? These people have never been conquered.” Quite a prescient moment, considering what the Soviet and American incursions into that country would bring decades later.

I had the great fortune to meet Dr. Paul in 1988, as a young college student enthused by his first presidential campaign (on the Libertarian Party ticket). The crowds were small back then; a poorly-lit meeting room in a downscale Ramada Inn in Santa Ana, California hosted maybe 40 of us. Cell phones and email didn’t exist, and thus organizing a third-party campaign on a shoestring budget was not easy. But Ron persevered, getting quite familiar with Southwest Airlines and budget motels. He was laying the groundwork—after years in Congress, countless small gatherings, and endless appearances on tiny media outlets—for bigger things many years later.

I stayed in touch with Ron through his campaign manager, the late Kent Snyder. Kent, a quiet hero who died far too young, would go on to lead Ron’s much bigger and better 2008 presidential campaign. Sadly Kent missed out on the 2012 campaign. But I recall one early evening that year, a few hours before an important CNN debate in Washington DC at Constitution Hall. Mitt Romney was huddled nearby in a hotel suite with dozens of staffers and advisors, doing last minute testing of words and phrases and thinking about how to evade or deflect questions. “What tie to wear? How does my hair look? Will Wolf Blitzer ask us about healthcare first? Will anyone bring up Massachusetts?”

Ron, by contrast, was utterly unperturbed as he enjoyed a simple can of soup in his condominium. He already knew how he would answer any questions thrown at him, and didn’t need to worry about obfuscating or contradicting past statements. It wasn’t about him, it was about the message. His distinct lack of parsed words and smooth talking were in fact what attracted so many people to that message. He never sounded like a politician.

His consistent philosophy meant Ron didn’t pander to particular audiences. He advocated drug legalization, for instance, despite running for Congress in a conservative south Texas district. And he advocated it on the grounds of personal liberty and sovereignty over one’s body, not just the bad societal effects of prohibition. His opponent in the 1996 congressional election, the late Charles “Lefty” Morris, tried to paint him as a dangerous libertarian. But Ron was too well-known as an obstetrician throughout the district; with his white lab coat and All-Amercan family he was anything but a radical. I recall dining with him in restaurants several times when someone would approach the table and say, “Hi Dr. Paul, you delivered me!” This was a huge political advantage, and a lesson for candidates. In fact he delivered roughly 4,000 babies over his career, and his daughter Joy carries on the tradition in her OB-GYN practice.

Whether speaking at UC Berkely or BYU, to a black church group or a GOP dinner, his message was always consistent: peace, freedom, sound money, less government power, more personal liberty. Let’s hope that message still resonates. Happy Birthday Ron.

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#13. To: Deckard (#7) (Edited)

... a great American patriot.

"Governments basically are designed to obliterate borders. They don't want you to come together." ~ Ron Paul.

Ron Paul wants the government to do away with borders.

How can you call him a “great American Patriot?"

Gatlin  posted on  2019-08-21   10:35:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Gatlin (#13)

I stand by my assessment.

Troll.

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-08-21   10:38:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Deckard (#12)

Learn to read chump.

Learn to write comprehensively, Paultard.

Stop with your copy and paste rambling bullshit.

Why is Ron Paul for OPEN BORDERS?

Gatlin  posted on  2019-08-21   10:44:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Deckard (#14) (Edited)

I stand by my assessment.

Because you are stupid and know no better.

Libertarian ...

Gatlin  posted on  2019-08-21   10:45:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Deckard (#0)

Medicine was his calling, so after Gettyburg College in Pennsylvania the Pauls headed off to Duke medical school in the late 1950s. The Korean War interrupted toward the end of his residency, so rather than facing buck-private status as a draftee Ron reluctantly enlisted in the Air Force as a flight surgeon. His rationale was simple: intead of carrying a rifle and killing peope, he would be a healer.

HorseHillary!

If he really wanted to heal people during he Korean War,he would have joined the US Army or the USMC. That is where 90 percent of the causalities came from.

He joined the USAF because he didn't want to risk getting dirty or uncomfortable,and he didn't want to risk HIS own precious ass.

High-tech draft-dodging.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2019-08-21   12:18:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Deckard (#10)

Paul served as a flight surgeon in the U.S. Air Force from 1963 to 1968,

Start by explaining this to everyone

Sure thing. It's called "draft dodging". He would have never joined the USAF if there hadn't been a shooting war going on.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2019-08-21   12:22:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: sneakypete, Deckard (#17)

Medicine was his calling, so after Gettyburg College in Pennsylvania the Pauls headed off to Duke medical school in the late 1950s. The Korean War interrupted toward the end of his residency, so rather than facing buck-private status as a draftee Ron reluctantly enlisted in the Air Force as a flight surgeon. His rationale was simple: intead of carrying a rifle and killing peope, he would be a healer.

HorseHillary!

If he really wanted to heal people during he Korean War,he would have joined the US Army or the USMC. That is where 90 percent of the causalities came from.

He joined the USAF because he didn't want to risk getting dirty or uncomfortable,and he didn't want to risk HIS own precious ass.

High-tech draft-dodging.

I met someone this past week who was an Army surgeon in Nam.

Now there is a guy who “SERVED” …

He has my utmost respect.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-08-21   13:21:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: sneakypete (#17) (Edited)

Ron Paultard ~ High-tech draft-dodging.

You don’t expect Dicktard to speak bad about Ron Paultard, do ya? He’ll protect Paultard like the (D)’s still protect Shitlary, and her deleted emails. It’s not about honor, it’s about AGENDA.

GrandIsland  posted on  2019-08-21   17:47:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Deckard (#0)

His work ethic carried over into a notable high school career as a track athlete, where he set the Pennsylvania state record in the 200 meter dash.

I had forgotten his state record as a track champion.

Too bad his detractors here at LF have never accomplished even a small fraction of Ron Paul's contributions in so many fields of endeavor.

You have to suspect that they hate him due to their jealousy at how much he has accomplished in life.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-08-21   18:46:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Tooconservative (#21)

Happy birthday Dr. No.



Ron Paul - Lake Jackson Texas Values

Hondo68  posted on  2019-08-21   19:14:03 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Gatlin (#19)

I met someone this past week who was an Army surgeon in Nam.

Now there is a guy who “SERVED” …

There was also a guy responsible for saving a BUNCH of lives.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2019-08-21   20:04:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Tooconservative (#21)

You have to suspect that they hate him due to their jealousy at how much he has accomplished in life.

I don't hate him,and why would I be jealous of a well-meaning fool?

A well-meaning fool is still a fool.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2019-08-21   20:06:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Tooconservative (#21) (Edited)

Too bad his detractors here at LF have never accomplished even a small fraction of Ron Paul's contributions in so many fields of endeavor.

The liberals say the same bullshit about Socialist Sanders... didn’t make that asshole anything more than an uneventful Socialist asshole... leader of a rabid asshole cult revolution. Sound familiar? It’s Socialist Sanders asshole cult members wearing those ANTIFA masks. I’m positive there’s a few Paultards amongst them as well.

Like Dicktard, your AGENDA doesn’t allow you to speaketh without hypocritical tongue. I’m surprised at you. Even though I’ve recognized you as a paultard kook, over the years you’ve shown less kookery than your drug addict loving asshole peer, Dicktard. I do remember your post back in 2008, and back then you were full-paultard. In 2016, you were normal enough to support Rand when asshole kook Dicktard & Hondope, despised him.

Your evolving less paultard over the years, has always been suspect to me. Now that Ron Paultard is too fucking old, too fucking kook to ever be president, at least now explain the reason you’ve reduced you paultardness over the years.

GrandIsland  posted on  2019-08-21   20:54:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: sneakypete (#17)

If he really wanted to heal people during he Korean War,he would have joined the US Army or the USMC.

Minor correction - the Army or the Navy, but not the Marines. Marines do not include doctors or corpsmen (medics). Medical personnel attached to Marine outfits are in the Navy. The USMC is part of the Department of the Navy.

nolu chan  posted on  2019-08-22   0:32:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Gatlin (#5)

why did he WASTE his time then?

Perish the thought. He became a multi-millionaire. That's not a waste of time.

nolu chan  posted on  2019-08-22   0:40:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: GrandIsland (#25)

The liberals say the same bullshit about Socialist Sanders... didn’t make that asshole anything more than an uneventful Socialist asshole...

No, they don't say that about Sanders. Everyone knows what a loser he was. A Soviet honeymoon with his first wife under the thumbs of KGB informers every minute, his attempt to be a failed cabinet maker due to his shoddy skills, his crappy one-room cabin with no utilities, how that first wife left him, how getting elected mayor was his first successful gig, then winning the House seat, then waiting to grab the Senate seat and run for prez.

No, the libs are under no illusions about Sanders at all. The young Lefties do admire his long record of advocating socialism despite the fact that neither they nor he seem to know much about socialism or anything else.

So, no, Sanders and RP are not very similar at all. RP set more goals and accomplished them, for one thing. And he does know libertarian politics and policy very well, something you can't say for Sanders and his socialist bile.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-08-22   1:05:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: nolu chan (#27)

True ...

Gatlin  posted on  2019-08-22   5:33:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: nolu chan, Gatlin, Tooconservative (#27) (Edited)

why did he WASTE his time then?

Perish the thought. He became a multi-millionaire. That's not a waste of time.

He didn't make his money catering to lobbyists if that's what you are insinuating.

Total net worth: $2.4 to $5.4 million

While nowhere near the poor house, Ron Paul has more modest assets than some of his deep-pocketed rivals.

The Texas congressman also has a personal loan out from the First National Bank of Lake Jackson that totals $250,000 to $500,000 with a 5-year term.

Paul lists a Washington-area condo worth $100,000 to $250,000 as an asset, and has an investment portfolio stuffed full of mining stocks.

For example, the sound-money advocate holds $100,000 to $250,000 in Barrick Gold Corporation and $500,000 to $1,000,000 in Goldcorp Inc., two publicly traded mining companies.

In all, the congressman is invested in more than 20 separate companies that have the words "mining," "mines," "gold" or "silver" in their name.

Top Contributors, 2011 - 2012

Furthermore, he is one of the few congressmen who have declined an annual pension from the gooberment.

Representative Ron Paul (R-TX) today reaffirmed his opposition to what he calls the “immoral” congressional pension system by refusing to participate in it.

While serving in Congress from 1976 to 1984, Paul chose not to participate in the system, despite a taxpayer-funded pay-out which is more lucrative than any private system. He said high-dollar perks like the pension are areas that could be safely cut immediately, without hurting a single American taxpayer.

You might even like to know that Dr. Paul's ...medical practice refused big carriers like Medicare and Medicaid payments, and Paul instead worked pro bono, arranged discounted or with custom payment plans for patients in need.

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-08-22   8:27:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Deckard, nolu chan, Gatlin (#30) (Edited)

He didn't make his money catering to lobbyists if that's what you are insinuating.

Total net worth: $2.4 to $5.4 million

RP's money comes from his gold investments, largely from the years he practiced medicine when he wasn't serving in Congress.

RP also did not allow his children to go into debt. He paid for their college himself, got 3 children an MD, and they started their careers debt-free.

Furthermore, he is one of the few congressmen who have declined an annual pension from the gooberment.

Admirable.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-08-22   9:50:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Deckard (#30)

Ron Paul has more "modest assets" …

“Modest assets” your ass.

Ron Paul’s “total net worth from $2.4 to $5.4 million” is no fucking “modest” asset to the average hard-working American Now, is it?

Now is it?

Gatlin  posted on  2019-08-22   10:11:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Deckard (#30)

Furthermore, he is one of the few congressmen who have declined an annual pension from the gooberment.
Definitely the RIGHT thing for Ron Paul to do – decline the pension – since he damned well did absolutely NOTHING to EARN it in the first place.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-08-22   10:15:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Gatlin (#32)

Ron Paul’s “total net worth from $2.4 to $5.4 million” is no fucking “modest” asset to the average hard-working American Now, is it?

Ron Paul has more modest assets than some of his deep-pocketed rivals.

Nice job of mis-representing what was posted assclown.

You hate him because he can't be bought and stands by his principles.

And you, you fucking hypocrite, always bragging about your "investments"!

Yet Ron Paul invested HIS money and EARNED every penny, and you have the unmitigated chutzpah to criticize him for being better off than many people?

You must really hate Trump - after all his net worth is much more than Ron Paul's.

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-08-22   10:32:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Tooconservative (#31)

Furthermore, he is one of the few congressmen who have declined an annual pension from the gooberment.

Admirable.

Apparently some here will hate Dr. Paul just because of that fact - he's an admirable man with principles.

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-08-22   10:37:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Deckard (#34) (Edited)

You hate him ...

Just because I do not accept him as some "almighty libertarian god" as you asshole Paultards do - in no way means that I hate him.

Please be reasonable in your assertions ...

Gatlin  posted on  2019-08-22   10:45:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Deckard (#35)

- he's an admirable man with principles.
Having principles is an admirable thing.

However, success is measure not in principles but in accomplishments.

Therefore, please list the most outstanding political accomplishments Ron Paul had during his 12 terms in Congress.

Then, please list the most outstanding accomplishments by Ron Paul since he retired from his 12 terms in Congress.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-08-22   11:01:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Gatlin (#37)

Piss off troll-boy.

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-08-22   11:52:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Deckard (#38) (Edited)

Deckard:

- he's [Ron Paul] an admirable man with principles.
Gatlin:
Having principles is an admirable thing.

However, success is measure not in principles but in accomplishments.

Therefore, please list the most outstanding political accomplishments Ron Paul had during his 12 terms in Congress.

Then, please list the most outstanding accomplishments by Ron Paul since he retired from his 12 terms in Congress.

Deckard:
Piss off troll-boy.

As a libertarian who wants to always have all the right answers, you probably are thinking that things weren’t supposed to be like this. That it wasn’t meant to happen — that it could never happen to you. And that it all just seems so unfair.

But whether you like it or not, an inquisitive mind has paid you a visit and tragedy has left you feeling helpless and clueless because you had no answers. Well do no despair and take solace that the only reasonable action that makes any sense at all is for you to suffocate yourself with self-pity.

I know that right now you just feel like curling up in a little ball and hide away from the real world. Well, you just go right ahead …

Gatlin  posted on  2019-08-22   13:13:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Tooconservative, Deckard, Gatlin (#31)

[Gatlin #5] why did he WASTE his time then?

[nolu chan #27] Perish the thought. He became a multi-millionaire. That's not a waste of time.

[Deckard #30] He didn't make his money catering to lobbyists if that's what you are insinuating. Total net worth: $2.4 to $5.4 million ... You might even like to know that Dr. Paul's ...medical practice refused big carriers like Medicare and Medicaid payments, and Paul instead worked pro bono, arranged discounted or with custom payment plans for patients in need.

[Tooconservative #31] RP's money comes from his gold investments, largely from the years he practiced medicine when he wasn't serving in Congress.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul

Paul served as a flight surgeon in the U.S. Air Force from 1963 to 1968, and worked as an obstetrician-gynecologist from the 1960s to the 1980s.

... served as the U.S. Representative for Texas's 22nd congressional district 1976 to 1977 and again from 1979 to 1985, and for Texas's 14th congressional district from 1997 to 2013.

I merely observed that, as almost all career politicians, Ron Paul became a multi-millionaire. As everyone knows, congress critters do not get rich on their salary, but by application of their near universal business acumen. I am in awe at the financial ability of all of them, even those who work pro bono.

nolu chan  posted on  2019-08-22   13:47:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: nolu chan (#26)

Minor correction - the Army or the Navy, but not the Marines. Marines do not include doctors or corpsmen (medics). Medical personnel attached to Marine outfits are in the Navy. The USMC is part of the Department of the Navy.

I stand corrected,and apologize for not giving the Navy doctors and Corpsmen the honors they so richly deserve.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2019-08-22   13:47:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: nolu chan (#40)

I merely observed that, as almost all career politicians, Ron Paul became a multi-millionaire.

As an ob-gyn and as a gold investor. I think he did make a little money writing too.

He was more successful in his business and in investing than other far better known House and Senate leadership members in both parties.

Ron Paul does own a lot of gold but he is primarily a mining investor, mostly gold. And there is a difference between a gold trader and a gold mining investor.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-08-22   14:26:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Tooconservative (#42)

As an ob-gyn and as a gold investor. I think he did make a little money writing too.

None of them get rich from their congressional salary. That makes them well off, but not multi-millionaires.

Bill and Hill made a fortune with their investments. Career politicians seem to have especially good instincts with their investments. They are incredibly successful. It almost makes one wonder why they selflessly dedicate themselves to public service. But clearly, Ron Paul did not waste his time. He was quite productive.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/12/ron-pauls-long-record-glorious-failures-congress/333842/

Ron Paul's Long Record of Glorious Failures in Congress

Of the 620 bills sponsored by Ron Paul during his long career in the House of Representatives, only four have ever made it to a vote on the House floor and only one became an actual law.

Dashiell Bennett
Dec 27, 2011

[excerpt]

Paul, who has served 11 terms in three different stages dating back to 1976, didn't get a single law passed until 2009, when he authored a bill that allowed for the sale of a customs house in Galveston, Texas.

Allowing the sale of that customs house is a record of legislative success that Ron Paul's constituents and supporters can be proud of. As is becoming a multi-millionaire.

nolu chan  posted on  2019-08-22   15:31:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: nolu chan, Deckard, hondo68 (#43)

Of the 620 bills sponsored by Ron Paul during his long career in the House of Representatives, only four have ever made it to a vote on the House floor and only one became an actual law.

There are quite a few celebrated pols in D.C. who have had even less legislation passed than RP.

And of the Congressmen who have passed a lot more items, typically the primary House committee chairmen of the majority party, they have indeed passed much more legislation. Unfortunately for the GOP, their record of "success" is a crashing failure to enact the policies they have pledged to pass to the gullible voters.

So Ron Paul doesn't have a record of saying he wants less government and then conspiring with Dems to pass budgets with ever-increasing deficits. Or endless military adventures on the taxpayers' dime and taking donations from defense contractors. Or cutting taxes at the cost of exploding debt for the next generation.

There was and is a huge value in just saying "NO!" to such examples of legislative "success". It isn't a success at all but a failure of government. And Ron Paul certainly did earn his title of "Dr. No" over the years. A few others have had the nickname since RP's retirement but it was far less known as a political tactic prior to RP's record. And how much both parties hated any such display of independence with both parties steadily trying to defeat Ron Paul. And failing to do so miserably.

And for all these so-called successes that one might claim were passed by the alleged leaders of the House, where the GOP once again betrays its voters (but not its donors who crave tax cuts and military adventure/spending), these are where the huge federal deficits come from and the huge debt that is being passed to the next generation to pay off. This is where the power of government is hugely enlarged at the expense of private scope of financial freedom or domestic liberties. This is where our military adventures come from.

I'll take Ron Paul, just saying "No, hell no!" any day over your apparent notion of what makes a congresscritter a legislative "success".

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-08-22   20:56:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Tooconservative, nolu chan, Ded Kennedy, a beautiful frendship, John Fn Kerry, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#44)

I'll take Ron Paul, just saying "No, hell no!" any day over your apparent notion of what makes a congresscritter a legislative "success".

The REAL Republicans & Democrats love the legislative "accomplishments" of their name brand congresscritters.



Ron Paul - Lake Jackson Texas Values

Hondo68  posted on  2019-08-23   2:26:19 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Hondo68 (#45)

The REAL Republicans & Democrats love the legislative "accomplishments" of their name brand congresscritters.

Yeah, right. Poor Ron Paul will never have the legislative "successes" in destroying the country or dragging it into false flag military adventures or transforming the nation toward Lefty policies of people like McStain, or Graham, or McConnell or the other worthless assholes who are more lauded by the media and academia as "successes" when they fulfill the Left's agenda while posing as conservatives.

Statesmanship and bipartisanship, my shiny white ass.

I'll take Ron Paul's voting record over theirs any day. Ron's rule as a physician and a congressman was always, "First, do no harm."

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-08-23   2:43:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Tooconservative (#46)

or transforming the nation toward Lefty policies

There is good and bad about Ron Paul. Thank God none of Ron Pauls retarded lefty ideas about legalizing heroin came to fruition.

Rand is smarter and has better ideas.

A K A Stone  posted on  2019-08-23   7:10:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: A K A Stone (#47)

There is good and bad about Ron Paul.

Allow me to point out some of his bad thinking, talking and action proposals where he had no inclusion of rationality.

I will recall for all when Ron Paul once told Jon Stewart a truly insane thing when he said people who don’t support him "don't understand what freedom is all about."

I will go further to show that Ron Paul’s irrationality did not stop there.

When Stewart went on to ask whether the fact that government regulations can sometimes be ineffective means there should be no regulation at all, Paul made this truly amazing wild statement:

"The regulations are much tougher in a [libertarianism] free market, because you cannot commit fraud, you cannot steal, you cannot hurt people, and the failure has come that government wouldn't enforce this. In the Industrial Revolution there was a collusion and you could pollute and they got away with it. But in a true free market in a libertarian society you can't do that. You have to be responsible. So the regulations would be tougher.”

Did Ron Paul state that regulations are much tougher in a libertarian free market? I believe he did. I find that’s strange for I did not think libertarians wanted tougher government regulations – do they?

This is absolutely nuts.

Ron Paul goes from one extreme to another. He moves from tougher government regulations to belief that if there were no government, then no one would cheat, steal or cause hurt to anyone because the market would make such behavior unprofitable.

The man is stupid to believe this.

Repeating Ron Paul: People who don’t support me “don't understand what freedom is all about."

Wow – just WOW !!!

I agree with you, Stone, that Rand has better ideas – definitely BETTER.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-08-23   8:13:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Gatlin (#48)

Repeating Ron Paul: People who don’t support me “don't understand what freedom is all about."

Wow – just WOW !!!

That is true for a lot of people. They would rather be controlled.

A K A Stone  posted on  2019-08-23   9:52:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Tooconservative (#44)

I'll take Ron Paul, just saying "No, hell no!" any day over your apparent notion of what makes a congresscritter a legislative "success".

As a constituent, I want a congress critter who can get something done. I do not need a congress critter whose signal accomplishment is making himself a multimillionaire. Just saying "No, hell no!" is an accomplishment in the same manner as members of the Squad saying "Resist!" or King Canute setting his crown by the seashore and ordering the tide not to come in.

nolu chan  posted on  2019-08-23   11:37:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: A K A Stone (#47)

There is good and bad about Ron Paul. Thank God none of Ron Pauls retarded lefty ideas about legalizing heroin came to fruition.

It did bother a lot of people and rightly so. RP saw it as a matter of principle, of whether the government just runs everything or whether we can make our own choices about our bodies.

Back when heroin was legal for across the counter sales everywhere in the States, we had a tiny fraction of the problem today, with the feds in charge of keeping it out.

And you-know-who was selling that heroin in our drugstores circa 1910. Aspirin was the other miracle drug developed by Bayer in Germany. Heroin was mostly used as a cough suppressant, competing with codeine. Back in the day, these coughing illnesses did kill a lot of people.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-08-23   14:43:58 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: nolu chan (#50) (Edited)

As a constituent, I want a congress critter who can get something done.

Meh. Invariably, they seem to do more of the Left's bidding than keep their word to their own voters.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-08-23   14:45:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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