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Title: College QB arrested, suspended after claiming ‘cocaine’ on his car was bird poop. It was bird poop.
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URL Source: https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/s ... on-car-was-actually-bird-poop/
Published: Aug 3, 2019
Author: SDS Staff
Post Date: 2019-08-11 09:33:59 by Deckard
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Chalk another one up to faulty drug field tests: Georgia Southern QB Shai Werts has been suspended following an arrest earlier in the week. Werts was arrested following a traffic stop on Wednesday night in Saluda, South Carolina. According to reports, Werts was originally pulled over for speeding. When the officer attempted to pull him over, however, he kept going and reportedly called 911 to explain that he wasn’t pulling over in a dark area. After reaching town, Werts then pulled over and was arrested for speeding. The QB was then asked about the white powder on the hood of his car, and he claimed it was bird poop that he tried to clean off at the car wash. The officer tested the powder, and it tested positive for cocaine with two different kits and in two different places on the hood of the car. “Everything about him and inside his vehicle made him appear as a clean person but the hood of his car was out of place,” the police report states. Werts denied any knowledge of the origin of the cocaine. The officer wrote that the powder appeared to have been “thrown on the vehicle and had been attempted to be washed off by the windshield wipers, and wiper fluid as there was white powder substance around the areas of the wiper fluid dispensary.” In addition to speeding, he was charged with a misdemeanor possession of cocaine. This is all really bad news because Georgia Southern plays LSU Week 1. Al Eargle, the Deputy Solicitor for the 11th Judicial Circuit which includes Saluda County, told Werts’ attorney, Townes Jones IV, that these kinds of charges would not be pressed on “his watch,” Jones said. South Carolina Law Enforcement Division (SLED) tests were conducted on the substance samples collected from the hood of Werts’ 2016 Dodge Charger, but the results confirmed that no controlled substance was present in the samples. “I have not seen (the SLED results) yet,” Eargle said on a phone call Thursday night. “But I was informed that the test did come back and that there was no controlled substance found.”
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#62. To: watchman (#51)
Just wondering - do you sell raw milk to willing buyers?
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. It is refreshing to have a new poster here with some independent views. I, for one, want to offer a warm welcome to all new inmates here at your asylum. LOL
It's not that sinister because they aren't exactly subtle about their intentions. As you probably know, you are their #1 target to eliminate, hondo was #2 (he got banned or restricted due to some friction with Stone), and I am target #3. Others, like Fred Mertz or Willy Green, are just useful to bat around but don't seriously challenge the status quo they would like to impose here at LF.
Woo-Hoo!! Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. I don't see that happening. Despite my mistake in the past.
I like ripping your positions I disagree with. You aggravate me often. But I still like you.
Hondo just posts memes that aren't true. He rips people for positions that his candidates actually supports. I have him to two posts a day. I will put him on full right now. Just let him know to be honest and not stretch the truth so much.
The quarterback should be compensated financially by those in law enforcement that approved faulty testing kits. He should indeed be compensated. Most importantly, his arrest record should be expunged, as should all arrest records in all such cases. And those states who continue to use tests known to produce false positives should be very aggressively sued every time they use the tests. I would expect they already are, and that the Defense Bar all across America challenges every positive result produced by those tests, wherever they appear. There's probably a page somewhere on a Bar site that has those producers names and a whole litany of false positives, all spelled out and summarized for ease of use in defense cases.
I can tell you why the Church has mostly died in Europe, and is rapidly fading in North America, and starting its descent in Latin America too. But being that I'm Catholic, all past experience has taught me that we have to re-fight the Reformation to even get to the beginning of the conversation, and that all such re-fights (which happen a million times a year all over the world) never result in getting to the beginning of the conversation. (Which is one of the reasons why the Church continues to die at an accelerating clip.) Truth is, Christians would rather that the Church die and not exist in two or three generations, then compromise on anything, let alone admit they are wrong. Therefore, the Church is almost dead in Europe, is dying in North America, and has begun to die in Latin America. My only reason for writing this at all is that I guess I still hold a small spark of hope that Christians can behave like the Germans and French have managed to do. But I really just expect the Church to die, because I don't think the good will truly exists to save it.
You can stay if your personal insults leave.
You can stay if your personal insults leave. Not your decision to make whitey.
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. Well, what JR deemed to be disruptive. In my case it was both my criticism of Israel's actions and my support for pulling the plug on Terry Schiavo. His feelings trumped my facts. But … his forum, his rules.
Thank you, AKA Stone, I appreciate that. I know that I am walking among titans here! And...I was being sincere with TC.
JR banned me for saying that getting rid of HW Bush was worth putting up with 8 years of Clinton. Now he is old and sick and I don't care.
watchman could easily have his own blog and/podcast If I had half the talents that Bucky has...and my own blog...I would be an internet GIANT! Interpretation: a true compliment to Bucky but, no, God forbid that I should ever have my own blog/podcast, primarily because I DON'T have Bucky's talent. My old pastor/mentor told me on several occasions, "Never write anything down! If you do they'll have written proof of what you said and will hang you for sure!" Did I listen? Well, here I am, writing things down...
Even though it's legal to sell milk from one's farm here in Maine...I do not trade with someone I don't know. If someone drank our milk, and then happened to get a stomach flu from their kid's daycare (for example), that could come back on me. The Mennonite folks are mostly who I deal with. It is their steadfast belief NOT to sue anyone. I honor that by being obsessively clean with the milk. May I ask, what is the situation with raw milk in your state?
For every beast of the forest is mine, and the cattle upon a thousand hills. Ps 50:10 Ps 50:10 is a precious verse to Christians. When God says He can supply our needs this is one of the ways He assures us that He can do it! This verse was going through my mind when I replied to Deckard. Perhaps cattle aren't the measure of wealth to humans (nowadays) but they ARE (still!) a measure of wealth to God. And rightfully so. Everything about a cow is, well, delicious. There is no other meat like beef (that is available to the common man). The same with their milk. Not to mention their gentle natures and their calming affect on the stressed out soul. Therefore, I DO believe there is a satanic conspiracy to deprive us of the richness of cattle. ie. cattle are the cause of climate change by farting/burping etc. this is such a lie! If it were true then kill off all those ruminants in Africa. Better yet just get rid of horses, the most gaseous creature you'll ever encounter. Ah, but no, these are the favored animals of the elite. Today, cattle are being absolutely vilified. And what is being championed: dogs and goats. Just walk into Tractor Supply. The livestock aisles have been all but replaced by endless aisles of dog food and dog treats and dog this and dog that. The same is happening in other venues with stinking goats. Just do a little word study in the Bible on cattle, dogs and goats. And, BTW, nobody said AOC or any other minion actually had to be smart. You continually surprise me. Did you say you are 6 ft/145 lbs. Slender Man! So it's not a myth! Time for you to carry on that noble family tradition. Buys cows soon. You will be asset rich once again!
You can stay if your personal insults leave. I don't want "him" gone. I would however like to see his "insults" gone. He really has been on a tear with those lately. His nastiness is quite a drastic change for him. Maybe there is hope - I'll check back in and see.
There are a lot of very tall but very slim men in my family. I'm one of the shorter ones. The taller, the slimmer. I think they all weigh 160 or less but we don't inquire about each other's weight.
Those are some enviable ratios. My closest friends, all hitting retirement age, all running marathons.
I think you have dairy cows, like placid Holsteins. I don't know anyone who describes Angus cattle as having "gentle natures". And they have the opposite of a "calming effect on the stressed out soul". Dairy cows are so gentle compared those other kinds of cows. The kinds of cows that drive their owners nuts. I was recalling after my earlier post how I once had to stop and take my horse to house while chasing an old old cow to the house in winter to give her better feed than she could get with the herd, corn and alfalfa. She didn't want to go. ...yada-yada-yada-yada... I got the chainsaw and put it in the pickup and was roaring out of the yard when my dad hustled out of the house to jump in with me, to find out why I was getting the chainsaw instead of showing up without the cow I was herding... ...yada-yada-yada-yada... And my dad watched the whole thing, didn't say a word until later when he said he had never seen any cow do anything like that in his life. Damnedest thing. I could never even have imagined getting into such a perverse situation with a cow. Yeah, the cow had raced as hard as she could toward an embankment along which was growing a fairly large tree. There was a sturdy branch about 20' up the trunk and about 4' out from the trunk, the branch formed a "y". And that Y in the branch was actually less than 6' from the top of the embankment. The old rip at a dead fun flew out into the air, running blind through tall weeds, and just happened to land like an Olympic ice skater on that "Y" branch on her side. She was exhausted and couldn't move. Probably she was as dumbfounded as I was. She didn't struggle around and just laid there, catching her breath. Up in the tree. When your cows start hiding from you 20 feet up in a tree, you really are doing something wrong. I'll never forget my dad's look when he saw that cow laying on the Y branch, 20' off the ground. He couldn't really blame me because none of us had ever had a cow in a tree before. The cow did seem to think it was the final insult when I cut the entire tree down with her still in it. No, I am not shitting you, this happened to me, a memorable day. And yet, I would probably accuse anyone of being a liar if they told a story like that to me. It's, well, unthinkable. Cows just don't hang out in trees, 20' up in the air. They're not freakin' squirrels or coons. Don't keep cows that get too old. They get suspicious and make trouble for you. Given the way that cow acted, you'd think I'd beaten her on a daily basis for the last 15 years. So she wanted to fight me to the bitter end because I was so mean that I wanted her in a sheltered pasture with corn and alfalfa daily until her calf delivered. I was a total monster obviously. A monster with a chainsaw. I don't live on a farm any more. But I do have that same old John Deere chainsaw on my back porch. And don't get me started on milking an Angus heifer. I assure you it was pleasant for no one.
What made you give up farming, I mean, aside from the obvious cow-in-tree situation. We have jersey's (that are bred to angus each year). When I'm stressed, I go out and stand with my girls. There is that moment when they begin to eat, especially hay, that is so rhythmic. You've undoubtedly heard of asmr videos...I get that everyday.
It's biggest advantage is for running. When you're skinny, you can run a long long ways. I recall a few times when I was on foot chasing stubborn cows and chased them down. They could outrun me on foot but I kept catching up. I did put them in the corral after chasing them for miles. They were kind of surprised that any human would actually chase them that far. Otherwise, a real disadvantage is that it's hard to get clothes that fit well. The clothes for those body types are made for teenage boys or guys in college. I sometimes resort to those but I don't like to look like I'm going through my third adolescence. Still, I do like clothes that fit my body type, not baggy stuff made for heavier people. So sometimes I will buy teen clothes, a little embarrassing at my age. I would only be officially underweight at 6' at 137 pounds. I do recall from age 18 to my mid-thirties, nothing I could eat would push my weight up a single pound past 134. I consumed 3000-4000 calories a day for a few years in there, never managed to gain a pound. Like my weight was set on cruise control. I did weigh as little as 120 when I got mononucleosis once when I was 20 or so. Ended up in the hospital, then off work for a few weeks, couldn't climb the three flights of stairs at work without resting on each flight until over a month later. Man, I was sick. And so thin I looked almost like an Auschwitz survivor. I couldn't look at myself in the mirror 'cause I was so thin. Being underweight isn't a joke for the person who is suffering from it. I had an aunt, maybe 5'5" who never weighed more than 85 pounds. And she did do a lot of work, harvesting her cherry trees and gardening. She had two kids, never weighed more than 100 pounds. Skinniness can be a family trait just as obesity is. I admit I do feel sorry for the people, many of them much younger than me, that can't even walk around Walmart without riding an electric cart. But then, I weigh half as much so of course it is easier to get around. I think it is easier being older if you aren't heavy. When you're younger and stronger, you can be heavy and still do a lot of stuff. When you're older, the pounds just weigh more and people get immobile. So I'd rather be my weight and look too slim, even if my old aunts are pushing 90 are telling me I'm too thin, rather than to be a cousin or two that I have on the other side of the family that are kinda obese and can't walk up a small hill without risking cardiac arrest. I always wanted to weigh 170 as long as 25 pounds of it weren't just my gut hanging over my belt. Nothing sillier looking than a skinny man with big gut hanging out. But if I can't pack those 25 pounds on as muscle, I'd rather just let my body be slim, the way it wants to be. It's a little late to get it to change. BTW, there is a new study that indicates far higher mortality rates for strokes and heart attacks among thinner people than people with normal weight and even the obese. So being skinny can kill you in your sixties from a stroke or heart attack that people of regular weight and even obese people would survive. Or so the doctors are saying now. The folks on those electric carts at Walmart will probably outlive me and buzz around Walmart on their electric carts, shopping away for decades after I'm gone from a slim heart attack or a skinny stroke. But that's okay with me anyway. I've always cared a lot more about how well I lived than about how long I lived. Being old and sick and increasingly helpless has never been the main goal of my life. In fact, it sounds really awful and pitiable. Also, I find America has become like a foreign country, not the country I grew up in and felt more connected to. I don't want to live so long that I don't even recognize the country at all.
My dad had dementia, suffered a final neurological crisis, had no nursing home insurance. The cattle were sold to help pay for his care after he had been in the nursing home for a year and a half at around $6K/month, something he had told us would be necessary if he or my mom were in a nursing home for a few years. My dad was not good at making plans for funerals or what would happen to his stuff and his farm when he was gone. He got very upset at the thought of it. He died before we were forced to sell the farm. We sold it later anyway after my mom died since he had left a trust for my siblings and me and also for each grandchild. A few thought we should just keep it but my dad never thought that we would keep it in the family after he was gone. It was his farm, not anyone else's in the family. And one of my cousins bought it in the end so it stayed in the extended family. Best solution really.
A well-behaved tame herd is actually a delight. I saw a herd like that once, herd cows, not dairy cows. They belonged to an exceptional local rancher who had raised them with complete gentleness. I could see why people said his cow herd was just like dairy cows. One of these cows was a little old and was very fat, with a belly so big that she couldn't even fit into the cow chute for a preg-check. He said that was no problem and a half-dozen of us stood in a circle around her and we preg-checked that cow in the open in the corral with no restraints or ropes on her and she just wiggled a little but gave no other trouble at all. One of our cows would have tried to kill you if you tried that. You wouldn't even get close enough to touch them before they'd want to kick at you. Gentlest herd cow I ever saw. Or she was just too fat to fight, one or the other. It was educational to see just how gentle a bunch of Angus cows could be if you never ever hit them with sticks or hotshots or yelled at them (yeah, the owner told us we weren't allowed to even raise our voices around them). Oh, and no dogs were permitted anywhere near his cows. Those were his main rules, he had some others too that I don't recall just now. That all sounded pretty odd to us when we started working the herd but you couldn't argue with his results. He had a well-known cow herd in the area and no one had herd cows as gentle as his. Obviously, he was a lot smarter than the rest of the county. I know I was impressed at what he had accomplished. It's something that took him decades to do.
Had that when I was 17. If someone really wants to get thin (not you TC), just get a good dose of giardia. If you survive the first 48, and that's a big if, you can control it enough that weight loss becomes remarkably easy and even comfortable. I'm surprise some weight loss gurus haven't harnessed it yet.
I finally managed to stop worrying about getting hookworms (minuscule infection rates in modern Western countries) and you manage to find a new worm for me to worry about. Thanks a lot! I have an aunt who used to de-worm her entire family every year though none of them had ever had worm infections. She had been trained as a nurse in the mid-Fifties. Well, none of them ever got wormy. But neither did the rest of us who had cattle and hogs the same as her husband did.
Sounds like it just wasn't in the cards for you to farm. I don't think I would have cared much at all for farming when I was young. In fact, I know I would have hated it. Now that I'm old, and have lived a varied life, it's fairly satisfying.
People do say you can't be too rich or too thin. Well, they're wrong. You can be too thin to be healthy. I don't think I ever was but I never wanted to weigh less than I did, always wanted to be a little bigger, a little stronger. But I was pretty wiry and could dead-lift close to twice my weight (highest weight: 257 pounds lifted from a standing position, standing on one foot). Well, it was an unusual thing and that's why I remember it since I never lifted weights otherwise. I know because I was lifting something I received by freight from overseas and it had been weighed for shipment. I lifted one end of it and it weighed 514 pounds according to the scale ticket on the waybill. Lifting one end of it required an initial force of 257 pounds. I recall some other stuff, like hauling 100 pounds of salt, a 50 lb sack on each shoulder, and hiking it 300 or so yards to cross a creek on a tiny log and then carrying it another quarter-mile to the salt tubs. I was only a little winded by that. Sometimes when I unloaded salt, I would pick up 4 sacks at once but I thought 200 pounds was too much for my frame, considering you had to maneuver and stack them. I didn't want the back problems so many farmers get from doing stuff like that. As you probably would guess, I did come up with a lot of ways to use leverage to get things done. It's good to be real strong if you farm or ranch but it isn't required. You just have to be more creative about finding ways to do the same things without using brute physical strength. I knew plenty of farmers that weren't very big or musclebound. A handful were as slim as me, maybe more thin. I can think of a few that were my age that probably did weigh less than me. And I've seen women on farms that can get around quite a bit of heavy work if they know what they're doing.
Giardia...it ain't no worm! It's a microscopic demon.
I always thought my dad didn't ever want anyone else to own and manage his farm. Not even family members. I can't blame him at all. It was his farm. He had worked hard all his life for it. I was glad we didn't have to sell the farm for his medical bills while he was still alive. It would have broke his heart, well, if he'd been capable of comprehending it.
I skimmed the Wiki article. I thought it was some kind of worm because they mentioned a medicine that is used for giardia which is also anti-helminthic. Helminths are worms. So I thought it was worms. Now that you mentioned it, I can see I should have read more closely. I really dread diseases caused by worms and bad sanitation practices. As you know, these are all ancient enemies of the human race and have killed us off in vast numbers throughout history until the last few centuries. On second reading, I was charmed to see giardia was discovered by van Leeuwenhoek, the Dutch guy who invented microscopes and therefore microbiology. Apparently, I didn't manage to sleep through all my science classes in elementary school.
Now that you mentioned it, I can see I should have read more closely. I said it that way just to emphasize it's wicked behavior. Not many people have even heard of giardia, mostly backpackers.
I had read of giardia as a killer in the Third World, one of the endemic diseases in some regions. But we advance. Last year, we were down to just two countries with any cases of polio. And some of those were vaccine-induced polio because a tiny fraction of people can get polio just from the vaccine. Perhaps you recall a discussion of this I posted, about how we are approaching the point where so few cases of polio are being prevented that the vaccinations themselves become the last remaining cases of the disease. And that is when you declare victory over another dreaded killer disease of millions of people. At some point in the next 5 years or so, they could end use of the polio vaccine. It could become essentially an extinct disease worldwide, just as smallpox did.
Well, you never kicked me out or threatened to kick me out that I recall. You did change my online handle from TooConservative to _______ (I honestly can't recall). And when you got over being mad at me a few days later, you changed it back to Tooconservative (without a capital C). While you can change handles like that as administrator, it isn't such a good idea due to the Pinguinite indexes its posts. The messages are all based on a member number and the names are looked up in the list and pings are sent out. In this way, if you don't change the handle back to what it was exactly, letter-for-letter, it can create problems if you try to do a forum search and it can affect pings. I've run my home version of Pinguinite and played around with doing that, long before you started having fun doing it. I discovered it can have a few unanticipated results since Neil never really imagined anyone having their handle changed. Lots of forums don't allow changes to the account handle for this reason. So many things rely on the user name remaining constant. But changing a handle doesn't break the forum or crash the server. But some things may not work exactly right in searches and pings. Anyway, my copy of Pinguinite was like that, it is possible Neil made fixes to the version of P that you are running here. I can't say that I saw any real errors over changing my handle for a few days but it didn't always cause problems when I did it here either. I seem to recall that a changed handle could affect pings and searches but I didn't keep any other notes about it.
Agreed. Sometimes the best way to move forward and actually agree amicably is not to debate at all. Just try to draw closer, recognize common interests. It's a disgrace how the ancient Christian churches in the Mideast have met such horrible persecution as we have meddled there and invaded. I can't understand why people are so indifferent to them. Your remark brings to mind something I thought about recently about Judaism. As we all know, Jews have been saying "Next year in Jerusalem", especially in the Diaspora outside Israel itself. So they've dreamed of Jerusalem all these years but they don't move there and many of them won't even visit Israel or just prefer other destinations. So they've had 70 years to get with the program and just move to Jerusalem. Yet every year, they keep repeating "Next year in Jerusalem". I know you can see the humor. So I considered what might happen if, say, a bolt of lighting came out of the sky and obliterated the mosque on Temple Mount and scare the Muslims so much that they didn't even want to rebuild it. And Israel could then build the Third Temple. What I wondered was how many Jews would leave Judaism is they actually had to practice the animal sacrifices demanded in the Old Testament. Would they summon the priestly family, prepare the purification rituals, slaughter the animals, then sell the carcasses in the local market afterward? Or would modern Jews just be so horrified at the thought of handing an animal to a priest to slaughter it to expiate their sins in a blood sacrifice? I think many of the two most liberal Jewish denominations would just quit Judaism completely. These people are already intermarrying their temples out of existence, no matter what the rabbis do. I think many modern Orthodox Jews, like Ben Shapiro, would also try to find some way not to observe animal sacrifice in a Third Temple. I think some Orthodox Jews might support the Temple sacrifices. But not all. And some Orthodox Jews don't think that the Israel established in 1947 is the real Israel of which scripture speaks, that it is a fake. I do wonder just how many Jews in the modern era really want to expiate their sins by handing an unblemished lamb to a priest to have its throat cut at the Third Temple. That's a lot more graphic than just reciting Next Year In Jerusalem every year. If they did build the Third Temple and started sacrificing, can you even picture the heads exploding over at PETA HQ? You could sell tickets on PPV for a confrontation like that. Anyway, Jews do give lip service to rebuilding the Temple. And certainly lots of Christian prophecy books describe it as coinciding with the False Prophet, the forerunner of the Antichrist. And the Antichrist will then commit the abomination of desolation (idolatry) in that new Temple. But when you get right down to it, do Jews or even Christians want to see animal sacrifice on altars in the Mideast? I think most of them would hate the idea.
Certainly there are a few limits here even on a real free speech forum. And longtime posters need to recognize this and not push it past your limits. You tolerate a lot of opinions you don't like but some issues do push your buttons a lot more than others. Personally, I don't care if other people have opinions that I disagree with or that offend me. It's when I think their opinions express a contempt for me or a disregard for basic polite conduct that I do get a little riled. I think you sometimes feel something along those same lines if a poster is stepping over your line. These forums, people need to remember that you don't offend the host. You can offend anyone else but not the guy who is footing the bill. And you definitely do not make the host feel you are deliberately disrespecting them as a person on their own forum.
At 18 my date and I missed senior prom because she gave me mono the week before. (Did you know that if you get it from making out, mononucleosis is considered an STD?) That little tidbit let's me tell my story in the absolute worst way possible.
The truth about rebuilding the Temple is that it will end up just being the sin of I of Israel if they do it. You may remember that when Je of I of Israel if they do it. You may remember that when Jeroboam split off the North Kingdom (Israel) from Ju Judah during the reign of Rehoboam (son of Solomon), that he immediately began to to worry that the fact that the Temple and altar was in Jeru to to worry that the fact that the Temple and altar was in Jerusalem would in inevitably drag Israel back into unity with Judah because of the religious ti tie. Every year, the inhabitants of Israel would have to make three pi pilgrimages into Judah. So Jeroboam built altars in the North and commissioned a a priesthood to perform the sacrifices on those altars ( a a priesthood to perform the sacrifices on those altars (frequently translated as as "high places" in the English). And you may recall that God sent prophet after prophet to Israel, warning them that the "High Places" were an abomination, because God had ordained ONE altar for Israel, and the ONLY priests who could sacrifice upon it were those directly descended from Aaron. That bloodline, and that bloodline ONLY, was authorized to perform the sacrifices. Anybody else who did was was in fact performi performing a blasphemous act. Thus, the " performi performing a blasphemous act. Thus, the "priests" of the North were an abominat abomination, even though they were following the same rites and rituals. Now recall two things that Jesus said: First, that not a letter of the law could could change until the end of the world. could could change until the end of the world. The Law was for the Israelites at Sinai Sinai and their lineal descendants in I Sinai Sinai and their lineal descendants in Israel, and nobody else. People have tried tried to write the Christians into tha tried tried to write the Christians into that law, but that defies Jesus who said NO change changes until the end of the world. change changes until the end of the world. Second, recall that Jesus said that the Temple would be destroyed in that gene generation, and it WAS, in 69 AD, by Titus and the Roman Army. Reading Josephus, we discover the dramatic scene during the conquest of Je Jerusalem in which the priests, barricaded into the Temple, sought to surrender to to the Romans, but Titus refused t to to the Romans, but Titus refused their surrender, stating that THEY had been th the source of the rebellion and all of the bloodshed, and ordering that they be ex executed to a man. When God sen ex executed to a man. When God sent the Roman Army to destroy the Temple, the pr priesthood was destroyed with it. So, if you built a new Temple, you will have erected an altar, a high place, but where are you going to get the Aaronic priests? They all died in 69 AD. It is IMPOSSIBLE to find anybody who is their descendant. Oh sure, there are LEGENDS of this and that, but that's all they are, popular legends. Note again that ONLY the Aaronic priest can perform the sacrifices, that for anybody ELSE to do it - even meaning well (as the priests of Israel did) - is an abomination befo before God. Note tha befo before God. Note that God left no wiggle room: the law cannot be changed even by a by a letter until th by a by a letter until the end of the world. God intended exactly this result. Sure, you can build an altar where the Te Temple used to be, but if you revive the sacrifices, you're doing no different th than the Northern th than the Northern Kingdom did: you are creating a false priesthood to perform ab abominations on a high place. There is absolutely no way to determine whether AN ANY Aaronic prie AN ANY Aaronic priests survived the fall of Rome, and no possible way to choose pr priests that descended from Aaron. Oh, sure, the Jews who spent the money and effort to rebuild the Temple would CLAIM that the Cohanite genetic marker is "proof" of Aaronic descent, but th that's just wishful thinking. Truth is, Jesus said that the Law could not change and gave a New Covenant for individuals only, different, new wine in a new bottle. He also predicted the destruction of the Temple. And God made that happen, shattering the old wine in the old bottle and removing from the earth the possibility of fulfilling the terms of the Hebrew Covenant. Because it can't be changed, it CAN'T be revived, even if you rebuild the temple. At best, all you can do is recreate the sin of the Northern Kingdom, carrying out sacrifices on an altar with politically-selected non-priestly hands, and that never has and never will ple please the God of Israel. So nope, the old rites can never be restarted, not unless God himself reveals a an Aaronic heir.
Given what I said above, if I saw it happening again I would denounce it as blasphemous and idolatrous, for the priests are not descended from Aaron.
On the whole, there is a really stubborn strain on Judaizing in Christianity whose origin I understand. What I don't understand is the tenacity with which people hold onto it, given that it would be terribly inconvenient and restrictive. When shown that Jesus clearly points a different way, and that keeping the Jewish law when you're not a Jew living in Israel with the Temple up is pointless anyway, I would expect that Christians would heave a sigh of relief, take a look at the evidence and say "O Thank God!, you're RIGHT" and stop doing the nonsense. Instead, they just seem to hunker down and dig in and WANT things to be impossible and hard. Meanwhile, the Church dies out all around us. That sort of mindset is precisely why (and it's precisely WHY the Apostles, in Acts, condemned "Judaizing" - it's not what Jesus said to do, and it's deadly to the Church).
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestWhile that rich milk is flowing I will be considering all that you have said!
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#63. To: A K A Stone (#55)
Watchman is a blessing to have here.
#64. To: Deckard (#61)
Sounds like a sinister conspiracy to turn this place into an echo-chamber.
#65. To: Tooconservative (#64)
As you probably know, you are their #1 target to eliminate, hondo was #2 (he got banned or restricted due to some friction with Stone), and I am target #3.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#66. To: Tooconservative (#60)
where you can get Stone to kick me out.
#67. To: Deckard (#65)
#68. To: Tooconservative (#64)
#69. To: A K A Stone (#21)
So they knew but they kept using them. Or they are just dumb.
#70. To: watchman, Too Conservative (#44)
Now, you've told me the symptoms, but can you pinpoint the exact cause? (I can)
#71. To: Tooconservative (#60)
Your recent posts indicated that you and misterwhite want me gone
#72. To: misterwhite, Tooconservative (#71)
Your recent posts indicated that you and misterwhite want me gone
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#73. To: Tooconservative (#60)
he got the types of troublemakers like you that only post on a forum to disrupt it
#74. To: A K A Stone (#55)
...a blessing to have here
#75. To: misterwhite (#73)
#76. To: Gatlin (#57)
I Had the distinct feeling the he was Bucky
#77. To: Deckard (#62)
do you sell raw milk to willing buyers?
#78. To: Tooconservative (#50)
Cattle. They are the measure of wealth in the Bible.
#79. To: misterwhite (#71)
Your recent posts indicated that you and misterwhite want me gone
#80. To: watchman (#78)
Did you say you are 6 ft/145 lbs. Slender Man! So it's not a myth!
#81. To: Tooconservative (#80)
6 ft/145 lbs.
#82. To: watchman (#78)
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And rightfully so. Everything about a cow is, well, delicious. There is no other meat like beef (that is available to the common man). The same with their milk. Not to mention their gentle natures and their calming affect on the stressed out soul.
#83. To: Tooconservative (#82)
#84. To: watchman (#81)
(Edited)
Those are some enviable ratios.
#85. To: watchman (#83)
What made you give up farming, I mean, aside from the obvious cow-in-tree situation.
#86. To: watchman (#83)
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#87. To: Tooconservative (#84)
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I did weigh as little as 120 when I got mononucleosis
#88. To: watchman (#87)
If someone really wants to get thin (not you TC), just get a good dose of giardia.
#89. To: Tooconservative (#85)
It was his farm, not anyone else's in the family.
#90. To: watchman (#87)
#91. To: Tooconservative (#88)
you manage to find a new worm for me to worry about. Thanks a lot!
#92. To: watchman (#89)
Sounds like it just wasn't in the cards for you to farm.
#93. To: watchman (#91)
Giardia...it ain't no worm!
#94. To: Tooconservative (#93)
Giardia...it ain't no worm!
#95. To: watchman (#94)
#96. To: A K A Stone (#66)
I don't see that happening. Despite my mistake in the past.
#97. To: Vicomte13 (#70)
But being that I'm Catholic, all past experience has taught me that we have to re-fight the Reformation to even get to the beginning of the conversation, and that all such re-fights (which happen a million times a year all over the world) never result in getting to the beginning of the conversation. (Which is one of the reasons why the Church continues to die at an accelerating clip.)
Truth is, Christians would rather that the Church die and not exist in two or three generations, then compromise on anything, let alone admit they are wrong. Therefore, the Church is almost dead in Europe, is dying in North America, and has begun to die in Latin America.
#98. To: A K A Stone, hondo68 (#68)
I will put him on full right now. Just let him know to be honest and not stretch the truth so much.
#99. To: watchman, Too Conservative (#87)
#100. To: Tooconservative (#97)
#101. To: Tooconservative (#97)
But when you get right down to it, do Jews or even Christians want to see animal sacrifice on altars in the Mideast? I think most of them would hate the idea.
#102. To: Tooconservative (#98)
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