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Published: Feb 5, 2012
Author: Terry A. Hurlbut
Post Date: 2019-08-10 14:33:23 by Deckard
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Are liberals really smarter than conservatives? Or are libertarians smarter than anyone else? A recent column in The Daily Mail suggests so. True or not, it shows that “liberal” and “conservative” are not the only two extremes of opinion. In fact, they are special cases of a far more general political landscape. By tradition, “conservative” and “liberal” (formerly “progressive”) stand for two different sets of freedoms on one hand, and entitlements on the other. This linear graph of left-of-center v. right-of-center dates from the National Assembly of Revolutionary France. The only thing that defined the “left” and the “right” then was change. The “left” wanted sweeping change, and the “right” wanted to keep things as they were. But neither side necessarily stood for more freedom than did the other. Instead, those things that a liberal wants to entitle some people to, a conservative does not. But: many of the things that a liberal wants people to be free to do, a conservative does not, either. The reason: a conservative favors a different set of entitlements that are not economic. The conservative would entitle most wives to expect their husbands to stay married to them, and not seek enjoyment elsewhere or end the marriage whenever they saw fit. “Moderates” are more likely to grant more entitlements in some areas, and more freedoms in others, than either side. But this line is a very special case. In fact, the possible mix of entitlements and freedoms should have at least two dimensions, not merely one. Michael Hanlon of The Daily Mail came close to recognizing this: The problem here is how we define ‘left’ and ‘right’ thinking, what this means socially and politically. A moment’s thought shows that the fault lines are not only blurred but they are legion, criss-crossing across traditional political strata and have changed through time. The square political leanings grid, from OnTheIssues.org. True, but incomplete. Many theorists, from Rand to Rothbard, have recognized two different “freedom scales” with which to chart one’s attitudes. One is the economic scale. Zero on this scale is a complete command economy, with input-output analysis dictating who produces what, and with Five-Year Plans, government stores, collective farms, the whole nine meters. At this end of the scale, everyone is entitled to a minimum economic standard but are free to do nothing to break out of that standard, or to take on any task unless the authorities approve. One hundred on this scale is total capitalism, with no role for government in production, distribution, or exchange. At this end, people are free to do anything but entitled to nothing. Whatever they want, they must work for. The other scale is the social scale. Zero on that scale means: throw homosexuals in prison, punish criminals severely, forbid immigration (that is, membership is by invitation only), etc. One hundred means to let everybody in, take all comers, let roommates (same-sex or opposite-, whether they share bed or not) form whatever contractual unions they care to form—but also recognize freedom of association (including the freedom not to associate), and the right of self-defense. Hanlon loses sight of one thing: many “social liberals” are damnably hypocritical along this line. They will not recognize freedom of association. They do not recognize a right of self-defense. They do not recognize any of the flip sides of increased tolerance of homosexuality, adultery, or criminality. As an example, they want to leave two men (or two women) free to be intimate, but then want to entitle this roommate pair to rooms, or an apartment, in any dwelling, whether the would-be host wants to offer them those rooms, or that apartment, or not. Once again: one person’s entitlement is another person’s loss of freedom. A libertarian, by contrast, would respect that host’s freedom. A libertarian would ask that the government leave those roommates free to be as intimate as they please, but not entitle them to rooms or apartment wherever they wish. For those, they must still make a voluntary arrangement with a host or landlord. If one plots his attitudes on the economic and social freedom scales on a square grid, instead of on a line segment, and orient this grid like a baseball diamond, then that grid will yield five different positions, not three. Home plate (zero, zero) is populism, or the Communism of the old Warsaw Pact, or Nazism in Germany. Conservatism lies at first base (100, 0). Liberalism or left-wing-ism lies at third base (0, 100). “Moderate-ism” is at the pitcher’s mound (50, 50). And Libertarianism is at second base (100, 100). So the old left-to-right line passes from third base to first, across the infield, allowing more freedom in economic areas, but insisting on more entitlement on the social, as it goes. Here is what Hanlon noticed: intelligence tracks with moving straight up on the political grid, and then tending toward perfect libertarianism. Lower intelligence tracks with falling straight down on the political grid, toward total populism. With the horizontal movement along the traditional left-right line, intelligence does not change. The implied result: Libertarians are smarter than everyone else. Purely abstract intelligence might track higher with libertarianism. That makes libertarians smarter than liberals or conservatives on that scale. A smart person (unless he hungers for power) wants to be free, either to make a living or to associate (or not) with anyone he pleases. But does common sense make libertarians smarter? Not necessarily. Abstract libertarianism works fine—for a voluntary association of voluntarily consenting adults. It does not work well for children. A child is an inherently dependent, even helpless person. Common sense demands that a society entitle a child to food, water, shelter, and education, that the parents, not the government, should give it. The parents are more likely to have the child’s best interests at heart than faceless bureaucrats would. But in addition, that same society also entitles the parents to a minimum level of “good examples” from other adults. That is why a sound society does not authorize two same-sex roommates sharing bed to adopt children. It is also why a business that caters to “the prurient interest” is not free to locate near enough to where a child might stray within sight. It is why a sound society classifies certain kinds of pastimes as “for adults only,” and recognizes a class of citizen or resident called the minor. As in: Sales of cigarettes to MINORS are FORBIDDEN by law. We support this law. Parents are urged to help prevent violations. The pure libertarian recognizes no such thing as a minor. That’s the equivalent of expecting a cub in the wild to fend for himself before he is ready. As any wildlife biologist knows, that’s not very smart. But in matters of pure economic policy, libertarians might be smarter than most. A sound society does let its children imitate the adults in one key area: business. Whether this business is selling lemonade from a front-yard stand, or offering lawn-and-garden services to his neighbors for a fee, a libertarian would have no problem with this. Nor would a conservative, so long as the child is doing something that he or she has already safely done at home. But a liberal won’t allow this. A liberal wants to entitle a perfect stranger to sell lawn-and-garden services, usually for a higher fee, without having the neighbor’s boy (or girl) compete with that service. The same seems to hold for selling lemonade, though that is even harder to justify. This makes both conservatives and libertarians smarter than liberals. They are smart enough to know that some entitlements have no justification, but only excuses. Are libertarians smarter? In some areas, yes. In others, no. But conservatives are smart to engage libertarians in a debate on how a society ought to run. Liberals haven’t done very well. Libertarians and conservatives might each be able to teach the other something.
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#71. To: Gatlin (#69)
I like Ron Paul very much. I hope that he takes bath ;)
I'm French. There is a strong odor in France on public transport on hot summer days, but it's obvious why.
I recommend you a filter with activated charcoal. Should trap every active substance, not minerals. Bottled water often is just filtered, you can do it better at home, just remember to change filters as in the instruction.
They are libertarians? Or is it garlic?
Even people who don't use soap or shampoo (or antiperspirant outside the hottest summer days) should not have a B.O. problem unless they have illness or disease. As long as they rinse and scrub with water every day or, at most, every other day. Obviously, people who are plumbing or auto mechanics or laborers are in a different category and may need more soap to get clean because of oil and dirt. But your average office worker or retail worker really doesn't get sweaty enough to actually have B.O. if they shower with water daily. I see some of the no-soap-shampoo-deodorant people are now also recommending cold showers year-round. I think that is a fad that is going to be slow to take off. Most people don't like cold showers, maybe cool showers in the heat of summer so you don't get out of the shower sweating. I try to shower cooler but it is hard to avoid turning up the temperature. I think some people can take cool or cold showers and be more comfortable with it than most others; having a layer of fat would help insulate your body core. And cold water does help to close up pores which is probably a positive because then your pores aren't just hanging there open and your skin will have a smoother look. A hot shower will open pores, a cold shower will close them. Possibly it might be worth trying a hot shower but ending with a rinse of a minute or two with cool or cold water. Some people say cold showers promotes weight loss but I think you'd have to use a lot of water to induce fat cell dislocation in subcutaneous fat under the skin so it can be eliminated by the liver. For that to work, you also have to control your diet. Some people say the spot reduction with cold helps them shed extra pounds in the problem area of belly/buttocks/thighs. They have salon treatments for this and people also use cheap cold packs for 20-30 minutes. But you'd have to take very long cold showers for it to really get your skin and outer tissue cold enough to induce fat loss. If you used enough cold water running over your body to drop, say, your belly's temperature to 40-45°F and kept it that cold for 20 minutes, then you would definitely induce some fat cell conversion due to cold. Over the next week or so, your liver would be eliminating those fat cells from your body as long as you were careful with diet. NASA did comprehensive studies verifying weight loss in astronauts due to chilling the body back in the Sixties. So maybe cold showers could help you lose some extra pounds. But I think you'd have to take showers with very cold water for 20-30 minutes. And you'd still have to restrict your diet to avoid packing pounds back on. Maybe no-soap-shampoo-deodorant and cold showers is just the latest fad for people to make themselves miserable with crap that they read on teh interwebs. : )
Because it accurately shows what foreigners are doing to our country. Yet you automatically and instantly look upon the images of a black man, a Latino, an Asian and a Jew as being “foreigners.” Tell me – please – why did you do that, make such an assumption? Think about it for a minute or so … Now, tell me – please – do you look upon everyone of different ethnicity than yours and classify them as being a “foreigner?” Then give me – please – your definition of “racism.”
Aren't all normal people "rigorous" about taking daily showers with water, at least? Who can even wake up in the morning without showering? Wake up, drag self to bathroom. Sit down. Pee. Poo. Turn on shower, brush teeth while it gets hot, get into shower, and wash from nose to tail with water, hands and nails. Shave under the running water (no gels or shaving creams, just a disposable razor and the running water to wash the shaved hair away. No need for a mirror. Just feel your face with your hand, and shave anything you missed. Keep going until it's smooth as a baby's behind. Turn off water, dry. Iron shirt and put on. Iron pants and put on. (Underwear is useless.) Put on belt and cinch it. Put on socks. Slip on loafers (shoes one must tie are a waste of time), go get eggs (with black pepper) and rye toast (with butter) and steamed spinach (with butter), and drink water (with a couple of slices of lemon in it). That is how the day begins for everybody, isn't it? Who out there DOESN'T shower ever day?
Something I hadn't mentioned in that previous post to A Pole. These stinky libertarians might be eating certain foods that can affect body odor and the composition of body fluids, affecting their smell and taste. Our bodies are, after all, just chemical factories. I fasted (or near-fasted) for over a month a while back. And I have never been a faster at all. I did force myself to eat at least a small meal every several days. I kind of worry about allowing my digestive tract to empty out and stay empty for a long period. I mostly worry about getting a normal digestion to start again afterward. I don't know much about it other than reading some recommendations to restart eating with some olive oil, then after some hours a very easy to digest light meal. Like yogurt. I'm not sure if you ever mentioned exactly how you restarted eating after these (very long) fasts.
I know. Especially during warm weather. The funk builds up so much faster in summer. In hot weather, two showers a day isn't a bad idea. And some people need it more than others do. I've read a few articles by doctors who say they don't shower every day in the colder months. It sounds like they do shower every day during hot weather, any time they've perspired. As for deodorant, do you think the product actually produces armpit stains on clothing from sweat or are those stains left by deodorant use as it is carried out of the armpit by perspiration. Some people say that they don't get sweat stains on their clothing nearly as much if they don't use deodorant. Deodorants - modern aluminum-based ones - essentially try to plug the pores in your underarms so you can't sweat as much so you are blocking your body's attempt to cool itself and to give that part of your skin proper respiration. So do you get sweat stains on the armpits of your summer shirts or has stopping deodorant use left your shirts with fewer sweat stains on them? How long did it take for you to transition from using deodorant before you noticed a reduction in the ranker kind of perspiration that most people seem to get if they stop using modern deodorants. Anyway, I get the impression that many people think they perspire more and stink a little more for 2-3 weeks after they give up deodorant. And most people are now saying that the natural non-aluminum deodorants you can buy in the yuppie boutiques or make for yourself don't work and actually makes them stink of the natural deodorant mixture they use. I know I'm being nosy but I have the feeling you're not shy on the subject. You didn't comment on the cold-showers people yet. So are you gung-ho for cold or cool or warm or hot showers? Do you think there are health benefits to cool or cold showers?
I didn't ignore anything. I positively voted for Trump because: (!) He promised to make peace with Russia, and (2) He promised a trade war with China. Geopstrategically, those were - and still are - the two most important policies in the world, because Russia doesn't have to be an enemy, and China has to be stopped (and to stop China, you need Russia). This is obvious, and these interests supersede every other concern. Trump was the only politicians saying anything like this, and still is. I didn't hold my nose to vote for Trump - he has the clearest strategic vision on both geopolitics and trade as any President since Nixon.
I drink the tapwater again. It was during the fast when I could not stand the chemicals, as there was no food in my system to buffer them.
Garlic, and sweat, and coffee and tobacco and dairy.
Cold showers are miserable. I'm not into inflicting pain on myself. Warm showers are pleasant. On a really hot day, a cool shower is nice. A cold shower is a method of torturing prisoners. If one wants to lose weight through the cold. Spend a lot of time in a cool pool. The water is below body temperature, and with immersion, the body has to burn fuel to maintain homeostasis. That will definitely burn up fat even without any other activity.
By dairy you mean good live (unpasteurized) cheese?
After 40 days of eating no food at all, and no source of calories, just drinking water, in both cases I ate what I was craving as the fast neared its end. I both cases I boiled up a mess of spinach and collard greens, put butter on them, and ate a bowlful, until I was full (which didn't take long - my stomach was probably the size of a walnut. I ate those with all meals that day and the next, and they were the main things I wanted to eat. Next thing I wanted was eggs, and sardines. And the toast with the eggs. Basically, by the second day I ate whatever was served to me. The main thing was filling that body up with greens. Nothing has ever tasted better to me in my life than boiled collard greens and spinach on day 41 of a 40 day water fast. I suspect that if I ate those every day, I'd never gain weight. Wish I could get someone to cook them for me.
I sweat a lot. Always did. When I get hot, or I have the sun in my eyes (I'm designed to live on a glacier, not in sunny climes), the sweat starts to pour. Doesn't matter if I'm fat or skinny. Sweat pours on my. So my whole torso - chest, back, pits, plus crotch and ass - everything gets sweaty. When it dies, there's a white residue of salt on my clothes, and if I don't change them, that will make my armpits raw and give me terrible chafing down between my legs. The only way to stop that from happening is to get in a pool or wash off with lots of water, and change into clean dry clothes. Cotton is better than anything else. Synthetic fibers is worst of all, because that not only accumulates the sweat and damp and accelerates the chafing, but also starts to reek. Cotton is best. Synthetic is worst. Silk doesn't breath. Linen is heavy. Obviously, the BEST thing to do when it's hot is walk around naked, but you can generally only do that at home when the kids aren't around.
That looks yummy. Is the cheese on the bottom Epoisses? That was Napoleon's favorite cheese. Honestly it smells like compressed athlete's foot skin soaked in ammonia. But it sure tastes creamy and wonderful once you get it past your nose. Dairy of all kinds makes you sour. It's the fact and the bacteria and the lactose.
Interesting details on how you broke your fast. Thanks for the info. I'd lean more toward yogurt and then move on to something really easy to digest like cream of wheat. But I am nervous on the subject, having had my peristalsis stop for a week or so several times, back 15-20 years. Not fun and it has made me more nervous about fasting. I do find that restricting my eating window each day does help. I basically eat anything I want from noon to 6pm. It does help shrink the love handles and small amount of belly fat I have (which, to be honest, other people probably wouldn't even consider fat at all). I am pretty slim so what I think of as a little belly fat wouldn't even register with a lot of people. My belly is, actually, flatter and slimmer than most anyone over 30. It's just my natural metabolic homeostasis, it seems. Some of us do tend toward slimness the way the vast majority tend toward weight gain, especially as we age. I do weigh about 10 pounds more than I did in high school, many years ago. I had about another 10 pounds that was just useless blubber which started as tiny love handles, then I got the navel donut, then they started to join forces to give me a beer belly (I don't drink beer, bad for my kidneys and protein level), then the love handles started to spread behind my back, making my buttocks start to expand northward. After I fasted (not to lose weight deliberately, just really depressed0, I had lost most of that. Now my belly is as flat as it was in my 20s or very close to it. I have an actual 6-pack that most men my age can't imagine. But it's only because they're visible because there's so little fat covering them up. Lots of people have great abs, you know, hiding behind an ugly layer of belly fat. There is a downside to being thin, especially as you age. I read a fresh study that being low-weight and low body fat actually lowers your longevity. The studies indicate that people of normal weight or even obese people don't die off that much from heart attack or stroke after their mid-sixties. But people with low BMI do die off in much larger numbers than the people of normal weight and more than even obese people. With a height of 6' and a weight of 145, I have a BMI of 19.7. So I'm not underweight but I'm not far from being underweight. So I'm not underweight by this standard but I'm not at a normal weight which would be more like 170lbs. I can't even imagine weighing 170lbs. So it makes me think about that study showing the slim people don't survive stroke or heart attack as well as the normal weight or obese people. Most people have the opposite problem, trying to keep weight off, even in their 20s and 30s. So I don't expect much help or sympathy. Most people would love to be able to eat what they want and not gain weight. Or just to have a reasonable diet and not gain weight. I have decided to stop worrying quite so much about just weight though. It's just a number. So many other things are better to worry about, like cheating on your diet with junk food, getting enough exercise to really improve your health, etc. I'm okay with being slim but I don't want to be skinny-fat with a belly hanging out and unable to look down and see my toes or other valuable parts.
If I'm hot enough, I sweat heavy like anyone. But I don't sweat as quickly as others do in heat and I don't sweat as much doing the same amount of work. Probably there's a limit to the value of comparing an ectomorph like me with an endomorph like you. And genetics play a huge role, no doubt. Much of our physical being and potential is dictated from the moment of conception. There is no assembly line, turning out blank human clones, all identical copies. We all have significant enough differences in heritage that we can't pretend what works for one will work for another. Yet we so often think that there are universal answers. Even so, I obviously found your remarks on hygiene interesting enough to recall them after this long. And your diet ideas are interesting too though you go further than I would (like fasting more than 5 weeks). I would say that at my weight, trying to fast for 40 days would be reckless. Or your fondness for the more acrid foods like the old Nordic and French cheeses or sardines. I don't doubt they are probably good for you though. I think we can all agree at least that American cheeses are an abomination. I'm not a huge cheese fan but I think I should be able to buy unpasteurized cheeses. Certainly, with basic food precautions, they are far far safer than buying whole raw milk and drinking it unpasteurized. America needs to allow unpasteurized cheeses. They are not any more dangerous than, say, putting fresh mayonnaise in potato salads during warm weather. And that can make people sick. But only if they are careless about food safety. I'll bet you can find some shocking jars of old crusty mayonnaise in people's refrigerators but it doesn't seem to make anyone sick to allow mayonnaise made with eggs to be sold widely.
Actually French cheeses have strong and stable flora. They are quite hard to spoil. If you keep them too long they get inedible and not tasty.
I have read that before from various Cheese People. They say you don't need to worry much about it spoiling because you won't enjoy eating it past the best-by date and you'll just throw it out. And it isn't as though pasteurized cheese lasts forever either. Even that will go bad even if it takes a month or more in the fridge. And I think many cheeses lose their best flavor after a certain amount of time. Some pasteurized cheeses start to get kind of bland and a little rubbery after a few weeks.
I know it because once a while I buy live unpasteurized cheese. If you do not eat in time it gets bad taste. Same with natural unpasteurized fruits or vegetables, if they get spoiled you know it, see and smell.
I'm not sure we are allowed any unpasteurized cheeses in America. Even our "brie" is pasteurized or so I've read. I know the only brie I've ever seen says pasteurized. The brie lovers say our "brie" doesn't compare to the real thing. I have cheese go bad in my fridge if it's been there for some weeks. I can't imagine I'd get sick from unpasteurized cheese once it started to turn bad. The color and smell alone tells you when cheese and milk are past their best-by dates.
Not to be a wise ass or nothin, but I earned a food handler's card years ago to volunteer & help out on certain projects. I remember learning that lots of pathogens and the toxins they produce are odorless and tasteless. I had a great restaurant meal a couple of weeks ago: snapper with crusted cheese and spinach on top with a little pasta. Well known kitchen, good staff, nice presentation and all that. Forty five minutes home and an hour later I lost whole thing w/o being too graphic. Probably staph or clostridium. Wouldn't have had a clue til I got sick. Pretty certain it was the lunch. I only had toast and coffee for breakfast, and I was whole again right after I lost the lunch. You can't rightly tell about those microscopic bugs.
This is the trick. Naturally ripe tasty cheese has its own nice ecosystem that does not leave space for the bad bugs. Artificial nuked food, when invaded gets dangerous. Same with huge bacterial flora in human guts, it is essential for the host's health. But when purged by strong antibiotics, it might get replaced by some deadly stuff. That is why you always should take good bacterial cultures during and after antibiotic therapy.
I have a raw milk dairy. Raw milk is legal in Maine and I'm very happy about that. I make all kinds of cheeses (not for sale) and I only trade milk with Christian families (Amish/Mennonite) who would never sue me for any reason! I have to admit when I am drinking raw milk from another dairy...I am very concerned by how they handled the milk. Also, if raw milk (unpasteurized) was used to make the cheese, and that milk contained a pathogen, you are probably going to get that pathogen (depending on the pathogen, of course). I would say this: if you are buying raw milk or unpasteurized cheeses from a known source, like a health food store, you are going to be okay. Raw milk dairies that sell to the public have to meet rigorous guidelines. There are some really good health benefits to raw milk so if you can locate a reliable source, and depending on your state laws, well, I'd take raw over pasteurized any day.
Along with a good source of C probably the most important supplement you can take.
Great posts here. My aunt used to go down the road for fresh milk which she kept cool and covered with a cloth. She used to skim it for the cream. My dad loved to churn the butter up for her whenever he came for a visit. Nobody ever got sick from that milk, but that operation has been shut dowm. I've had milk straight from the cow's udder. None better. I've had warm milk from well tended female camel also. That was I think the best milk I've ever tasted.
Yes. In some situations, like yogurt, I have to kill off the existing cultures (even the good ones) so that the yogurt cultures can grow without competition. Makes for a thicker yogurt. I have seen raw milk from other dairies that had stuff floating in that you would think would kill a buzzard, but folks were drinking it and doing just fine!
Real live cheeses ripe in special conditions, they are pure and healthy naturally. Many different kinds and tastes, developed and tested over years by talented people. It is as good as mother's milk for her baby. Much better for the child than artificial formula.
Drinking the milk is one thing...but milking that camel...no sir!...I'll not do it!
You need to check on this … Come on, Deckard, at some time in your life start getting your act together and getting things straight. Since you NEVER fact check or validate anything, I checked for you. “I don’t know anything about that other than I have spoken to Sen. Paul, and Sen. Paul is somebody I have a very good relationship with,” Trump told reporters in the Oval Office. “And I would listen to him, but I didn’t appoint him, no,” he continued. “No he’s somebody I listen to, and I respect Sen. Paul and if he had some ideas I would listen.” Source: Trump says he didn't tap Rand Paul to serve as envoy in talks with Iran
Sure sounds libertarian to me They never speak in political related measures or activities with defined long- term goals. Most libertarian narrative therefore is inconsequential – because it is just simple propaganda tricks, and misleading appeals to emotions of the uninformed. Some misguided souls refer to themselves as libertarians, specifically because they have some obsessive vendetta directed towards the federal government, and they try to make libertarian to be a buzz-word term they prefer use to describe anything they have in mind. George Carlin once said in describing libertarian -
From politico. President Donald Trump confirmed Friday that Sen. Rand Paul is involved in diplomatic talks with Iran, referring to the country as “nothing but trouble.”
I'm shortish 5 ft 9. I had a strong build. My ideal weight was about 175 lbs. With age, I've become quite fat, really. It annoys me. I know what to do about it, but I only take half measures because, well, because I don't like to do much except swim. I do like to be in the water. I should put in a pool
Raw milk is legal in Connecticut too. They sell it at the store right down the street.
When it comes to dairy, my very favorite thing is a Caprice de Dieux - a French cheese that has only a touch less milkfat than butter. It looks like brie, with the white rind, but it is SOOOO rich and buttery, you just slice it and (nearly) spread it on a baguette. It doesn't QUITE spreqd, it does hold its shape, somewhat, but oh is it rich. Caprice des Dieux - Dieu que c'est bon. My second favorite dairy is thick sheep yogurt with a touch of fresh honey. After that, probably Greek yogurt. Then other cheeses. of the brie/Camembert variety. Then I think yellow cheese, like cheddar and gouda. Then goat milk. Regular milk is down around the bottom of my list, because it makes me fart, a lot. That doesn't really bother me, but it is stinky and horrible for the people trapped around me.
I don't worry about food hygeine. If it's not gross to me, I won't get sick. And I really never do. I have a set of routine foods that I circulate through every week. I live by the Sound here, so every week I have a dosen fresh local oysters. Most days I have a plank of Salmon - I know the Alaska wild caught stuff is supposed to be "better" but the quality Atlantic farmed stuff from Scotland and Norway, is so much richer, that's what I eat - raw with soy, olive oil and dill. And scallops. Two nights a week I'll pan fry sea scallops in coconut oil - no breading. Spinach and collard greens, salad and broccoli, Grapefruit and black berries. Eggs and rye toast for breakfast. I've pretty much singled out all of my favorite foods and eat them over and over. With all that good food, I'm still too fat, but this is a fuction of calorie intake exceeding output. I think the best weight loss program - something I'd set up somewhere if I had millions, was a place where the food was simple, and served to everybody, and the physical activity was sex, all day, at will. Obviously avoiding disease and all that would be a major undertaking, and the place would end up being a fat farm version of Epstein's little island. Still, that would be a very enjoyable way to lose weight and get exercise. I'll call it "Lucifer's Far Farm" The only dairy will be unpasteurised live-served human milk. Mmmmm mmmmm good. _Objection, your honor!' - Lucifer
I had it happen once. A burger from a restaurant was bad when I was a kid. We didn't even make it home before I got violently sick. But once I expelled the food, there was no real illness. The only time I ever thought I had food poisoning.
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#72. To: A Pole (#68)
#73. To: Vicomte13 (#70)
I noticed that the tap water tasted very strongly of the chlorine they put in it, and it started to disgree with me, so I switched to bottled water, and gradually found myself only able to drink Poland Spring, Evian and Distilled water, because everything else had an aftertaste or too much of some mineral or chemical to bear.
#74. To: Vicomte13 (#72)
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There is a strong odor in France on public transport on hot summer days, but it's obvious why.
#75. To: A Pole, Vicomte13 (#68)
#76. To: A K A Stone (#65)
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Exactly whqt it It you like about seeing “images of a black man, a Latino, an Asian and a Jew punching Uncle Sam?”
Nowhere does the cartoon make any reference to the citizenship of the four caricatures of different ethnicities depicted there.
#77. To: Tooconservative (#63)
Most of the no-soap/no-poo/no-antiperspirant types are very rigorous about daily showers with water.
#78. To: Vicomte13 (#70)
(4) If I eat garlic, I smell like strong; if I eat a lot of dairy I smell sour and pass a lot of gas; if I eat a lot of meat, I get an acidic smell.
At some point in the first fast, when I had had no food in me for quite awhile, and nothing but water in my system to dilute the impact of things, I noticed that the tap water tasted very strongly of the chlorine they put in it, and it started to disgree with me, so I switched to bottled water, and gradually found myself only able to drink Poland Spring, Evian and Distilled water, because everything else had an aftertaste or too much of some mineral or chemical to bear.
#79. To: Vicomte13 (#77)
Who out there DOESN'T shower ever day?
#80. To: Deckard (#26)
#81. To: A Pole (#73)
#82. To: A Pole (#74)
#83. To: Tooconservative (#75)
#84. To: Vicomte13 (#82)
Garlic, and sweat, and coffee and tobacco and dairy
#85. To: Tooconservative (#78)
#86. To: Tooconservative (#79)
#87. To: A Pole (#84)
#88. To: Vicomte13 (#85)
BMI Categories:
Underweight = <18.5
Normal weight = 18.5–24.9
Overweight = 25–29.9
Obesity = BMI of 30 or greater
#89. To: Vicomte13, A Pole (#86)
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I sweat a lot. Always did. When I get hot, or I have the sun in my eyes (I'm designed to live on a glacier, not in sunny climes), the sweat starts to pour.
#90. To: Tooconservative (#89)
America needs to allow unpasteurized cheeses. They are not any more dangerous than, say, putting fresh mayonnaise in potato salads during warm weather. And that can make people sick. But only if they are careless about food safety.
#91. To: A Pole (#90)
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Actually French cheeses have strong and stable flora. They are quite hard to spoil. If you keep them too long they get inedible and not tasty.
#92. To: Tooconservative (#91)
They say you don't need to worry much about it spoiling because you won't enjoy eating it past the best-by date and you'll just throw it out.
#93. To: A Pole (#92)
#94. To: Tooconservative (#93)
#95. To: randge (#94)
I remember learning that lots of pathogens and the toxins they produce are odorless and tasteless.
#96. To: Tooconservative (#89)
I'm not a huge cheese fan but I think I should be able to buy unpasteurized cheeses. Certainly, with basic food precautions, they are far far safer than buying whole raw milk and drinking it unpasteurized. America needs to allow unpasteurized cheeses.
#97. To: A Pole (#95)
good bacterial cultures
#98. To: watchman (#96)
#99. To: A Pole (#95)
This is the trick. Naturally ripe tasty cheese has its own nice ecosystem that does not leave space for the bad bugs. Artificial nuked food, when invaded gets dangerous.
#100. To: watchman (#99)
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Yes. In some situations, like yogurt, I have to kill off the existing cultures (even the good ones) so that the yogurt cultures can grow without competition.
#101. To: randge (#98)
milk from well tended female camel
#102. To: Deckard (#26)
Trump even naming Rand as a special envoy to Iran in diplomatic talks …
You need to check on this …
#103. To: Deckard (#102)
Trump even naming Rand as a special envoy to Iran in diplomatic talks …
I found that Trump said he didn't tap Rand Paul to serve as envoy in talks with Iran.
Declard. you are one pathetic lost soul when it comes to presenting facts …
#104. To: Deckard (#22)
(Edited)
Fewer laws, fewer regulations.
It sounds that way to you because libertarians tend to speak in catchphrases – “fewer laws and fewer regulations”, "we want freedom", "we are against bureaucracy". One of the more pretentious political self-descriptions is “Libertarian.” People think it puts them above the fray. It sounds fashionable, and to the uninitiated, faintly dangerous. Actually, it’s just one more bullshit political philosophy.
"Libertarian" sounds fashionable – Yea, that’s all it does …
#105. To: Gatlin (#103)
#106. To: Tooconservative (#88)
#107. To: watchman (#96)
#108. To: Tooconservative (#89)
#109. To: Tooconservative (#89)
#110. To: randge (#94)
Pretty certain it was the lunch. I only had toast and coffee for breakfast, and I was whole again right after I lost the lunch. You can't rightly tell about those microscopic bugs.
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