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Title: Trump To Address Nation Monday Over Mass Shootings, Says More Gun Control May Be Needed
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Zero Hedge
URL Source: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019 ... more-gun-control-may-be-needed
Published: Aug 4, 2019
Author: Tyler Durden
Post Date: 2019-08-05 10:44:33 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 5788
Comments: 57
In the wake of multiple mass shootings over the weekend, President Trump told reporters in Morristown Airport before departing for the White House on Sunday that "hate has no place in our country and we're going to take care of it." As The Hill reports, Congressional Democrats, 2020 presidential candidates and others have rushed to draw comparisons between the motives of the El Paso shooter and Trump’s immigration rhetoric and suggested he helped fuel the environment that led to the attack. “Let’s be very clear about what is causing this and who the president is. He is an open avowed racist and encouraging more racism in this country,” former Rep. Beto O’Rourke (D-Texas), whose hometown is El Paso, said Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union.” Notably, however, even Trump nemesis, former FBI Director, Jim Comey admitted in his latest op-ed (albeit in the 20th paragraph) that: "...according to a 'manifesto' widely attributed to him, the Texas terrorist who killed at least 20 people in El Paso on Saturday wasn’t directly motivated by Donald Trump..." The president ignored shouted questions about whether the El Paso shooter's anti-immigrant manifesto shared similarities with his rhetoric and noted instead that the shootings are part of “a mental illness problem.” The president then added that he had spoken to Attorney General William Barr, FBI Director Christopher Wray, the Ohio and Texas governors as well as members of Congress. “We have to get it stopped,” he said. “This has been going on for years, for years and years in our country.” He added that "perhaps" more needs to be done with respect to gun control. Trump added that he will deliver a formal statement on Monday at 10 a.m. Monday at the White House. On Saturday, a gunman entered an El Paso, Texas Walmart, killing 20 people and wounding 26 others. Less than 24 hours later, at least nine people were killed and 26 more injured when 24-year-old Connor Betts of Bellbrook Ohio used a .223 caliber rifle to open fire at a crowd on East 5th street in the city's popular downtown Oregon district.
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#1. To: Deckard (#0)
Mass shooting deaths are on par with getting killed by lightning. You are not going to legislate away occurrances that are already extremely rare.
As of August 4, 2019, 11 lightning fatalities have occurred in 2019. These numbers certainly do not show that “mass shooting deaths are on par with getting killed by lightning.”
Yes, with two fewer fatalities than "mass shootings". Get a grip Gatlin. (Hey, try saying that 5 times real fast!) It's about time to put you back on bozo.
Go ahead. I have more data to post for others to read ...
Okay. Ooooohh... maybe I should wait!
Good choice ...
there were 38 lightning fatalities in 2016. These numbers certainly do not show that “mass shooting deaths are on par with getting killed by lightning.”
There were 38 lightning fatalities in 2016. In 2016, there were 37,806 deaths in motor vehicle accidents in America. So in 2016, you were 995 times as likely to die in a vehicle accident than by lightning. And in 2016, you were only 532 times as likely to die by a motor vehicle accident than you were to be killed in a mass shooting. Deaths by lightning are only 0.1% of the number who die in vehicle accidents. Deaths by mass shootings are only 0.19% of the number who die in vehicle accidents. We are talking about vanishingly small numbers of deaths from lightning or mass shootings. BTW, you don't have that much less chance of dying while rock climbing in America or Canada than of being struck by lightning or killed in a mass shooting. Quora: How many people die rock climbing each year? ...: I just found these 2013 numbers in a quick search. You could do comparable searches for dying by slipping in a bathtub or shower or dying by electrocution from kitchen or bathroom gadgets and you'd probably get more fatalities than from lightning or from mass shootings.
Yes, we are ... I did not bring up the subject. I only responded to a faulty analogy. Have you even known me to pass up a chance not to?
You and Neil were arguing over very very tiny percentages of annual deaths in America. Vanishingly small. I've never known a person shot in a mass shooting. I've never known 500 vehicle fatalities. And I've never known a person struck by lightning. We all generally have much better things to worry about than lightning or mass shootings. Like car accidents, heart disease, strokes and cancer. It's discouraging we allow the pols to stage these little political pillow fights on these peripheral issues that simply do not affect the vast majority of the population. It's almost like it is a deliberate tactic of the two-party duopoly to keep the peasants busy. Perhaps you recall the old Wizard Of Id comics. Strange how they dragged that one out for years.
Slow day - Eh?
I like comparative statistics. It's somewhat comforting to know how many different ways the universe would like to kill you and what its main methods of eliminating us are. We make almost a cult out of these percentages in the modern era. And some of them are vastly exaggerated in studies and official attention compared to the much larger inventory of preventable deaths that government might take an active safety role in. Here's a bit of Kochtopus material that is actually quite good, neutral as far as libertarian philosophy goes (not likely to start any fights among various libertarian ideological factions). Cato Institute: Speed Doesn’t Kill: The Repeal of the 55-MPH Speed Limit, 5/31/1999 You can see why it appeals to me since it punctures the idea of conventional wisdom being overturned in favor of systematic studies that support libertarian views on public policy like opposition to the federal speed limits imposed by Nixon. I know you recall the era.
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#31. To: Pinguinite (#1)
Mass shooting deaths are on par with getting killed by lightning.
As of July 31, 2019, 248 mass shootings have occurred in 2019 with 246 fatalities.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_ in_2019
https://www.weather.gov/safety/lightning-fatalities
#32. To: Gatlin (#31)
As of July 31, 2019, 248 mass shootings have occurred in 2019 with 246 fatalities.
#34. To: Pinguinite (#32)
It's about time to put you back on bozo.
#35. To: Gatlin (#34)
Go ahead.
I have more data to post for others to read ...
#37. To: Pinguinite (#35)
Ooooohh... maybe I should wait!
#38. To: Pinguinite (#37)
(Edited)
Mass shooting deaths are on par with getting killed by lightning.
There were 71 mass killings in 2016.
https://time.com/4965022/deadliest-mass-shooting-us-history/
https://www.google.com/search? ei=2exNXbm9JMPdtAbcn5jQBQ&q=lightning+deaths+in+2016&oq=lightning+deaths+in+20 16&gs_l=psy- ab.12..0i22i30l4.157498.158756..161534...0.0..0.90.172.2......0....1..gws- wiz.......0i71j0.nPvgH08xoMU&ved=0ahUKEwj5ja3a5PbjAhXDLs0KHdwPBloQ4dUDCAo
#42. To: Gatlin, Pinguinite, nolu chan (#38)
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There were 71 mass killings in 2016.
In 2013 there were 143 US and 11 CAN accidents reported, with 283 US and 24 CAN persons involved, 100 US and 5 CAN injuries, and 21 US and 4 CAN fatalities.
#43. To: Tooconservative (#42)
We are talking about vanishingly small numbers of deaths from lightning or mass shootings.
#45. To: Gatlin (#43)
I only responded to a faulty analogy.
#46. To: Tooconservative (#45)
#47. To: Gatlin (#46)
Slow day - Eh?
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