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Title: Trump To Address Nation Monday Over Mass Shootings, Says More Gun Control May Be Needed
Source: Zero Hedge
URL Source: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019 ... more-gun-control-may-be-needed
Published: Aug 4, 2019
Author: Tyler Durden
Post Date: 2019-08-05 10:44:33 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 5127
Comments: 57

In the wake of multiple mass shootings over the weekend, President Trump told reporters in Morristown Airport before departing for the White House on Sunday that "hate has no place in our country and we're going to take care of it."

As The Hill reports, Congressional Democrats, 2020 presidential candidates and others have rushed to draw comparisons between the motives of the El Paso shooter and Trump’s immigration rhetoric and suggested he helped fuel the environment that led to the attack.

“Let’s be very clear about what is causing this and who the president is. He is an open avowed racist and encouraging more racism in this country,” former Rep. Beto O’Rourke (D-Texas), whose hometown is El Paso, said Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

Notably, however, even Trump nemesis, former FBI Director, Jim Comey admitted in his latest op-ed (albeit in the 20th paragraph) that:

"...according to a 'manifesto' widely attributed to him, the Texas terrorist who killed at least 20 people in El Paso on Saturday wasn’t directly motivated by Donald Trump..."

The president ignored shouted questions about whether the El Paso shooter's anti-immigrant manifesto shared similarities with his rhetoric and noted instead that the shootings are part of “a mental illness problem.”

The president then added that he had spoken to Attorney General William Barr, FBI Director Christopher Wray, the Ohio and Texas governors as well as members of Congress.

“We have to get it stopped,” he said.

“This has been going on for years, for years and years in our country.”

He added that "perhaps" more needs to be done with respect to gun control. 

Trump added that he will deliver a formal statement on Monday at 10 a.m. Monday at the White House.

On Saturday, a gunman entered an El Paso, Texas Walmart, killing 20 people and wounding 26 others. Less than 24 hours later, at least nine people were killed and 26 more injured when 24-year-old Connor Betts of Bellbrook Ohio used a .223 caliber rifle to open fire at a crowd on East 5th street in the city's popular downtown Oregon district.

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#1. To: Deckard (#0)

Mass shooting deaths are on par with getting killed by lightning.

You are not going to legislate away occurrances that are already extremely rare.

Pinguinite  posted on  2019-08-05   11:26:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Pinguinite (#1)

Mass shooting deaths are on par with getting killed by lightning.

Do you really believe that you can equate random physical characteristics of the Universe with irrational human behavior?

buckeroo  posted on  2019-08-05   22:36:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: buckeroo, Pinguinite (#8)

Pinguinite: Mass shooting deaths are on par with getting killed by lightning.

Buekeroo: Do you really believe that you can equate random physical characteristics of the Universe with irrational human behavior?

That was a really stupid question to ask. You must remember that Pinguinite is a libertarian. Anyone using sound practical judgment and having a discerning mind would be fully conscious of the fact that libertarians believe only what they want to believe. Therefore, instead of asking such a dumbass question – just check the data?

Had you checked, then you would have found references showing the odds of death in mass shooting (US only): 1 in 11,125 while the odds of death by lightning strike (US only): 1 in 161,831. Conclusion: So it seems that it's actually a lot more likely for an American to die in a mass shooting than it is for us to die in lightning strikes.

After realizing that we all have just witnessed one libertarian, Bucky, asking another libertarian, Pinguinite, if he “really believes” something – Then, this has gotta be the funniest thing we have read in a long while.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-08-09   4:08:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Gatlin (#13)

1 in 11,125

That number is bullshit.

That would mean there are 29393 people killed in mass shootings in the usa each year. Not true.

Which would mean 81 killed each day in mass shootings. I don't believe that.

A K A Stone  posted on  2019-08-09   6:58:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#15. To: A K A Stone (#14)

[The statistical odds of death in mass shooting (US only) is} 1 in 11,125

That number is bullshit.

Bullshit?
That would mean there are 29393 people killed in mass shootings in the usa each year. Not true.
That [the computation of statistical odds] in no way mans “there are 29393 people killed in mass shootings in the usa each year. Which of course, is definitely “not true.”
Which would mean 81 killed each day in mass shootings. I don't believe that.
I don’t believe that either because the “statistical odds” does not “mean 81 killed each day in mass shootings.

So, let’s examine what is true and what to believe.

To begin, we must first understand that “statistical odds” are an “expression of relative probabilities” and in no way a prediction of something that will happen – is expected to happen – or a validation of anything that has happened.

Are we clear on this?

Hoping that we are, then let’s delve deeper and understand ...

… the probability that an event will occur is the fraction of times you expect to see that event in many trials. Probabilities always range between 0 and 1. The odds are defined as the probability that the event will occur divided by the probability that the event will not occur.

Now that we have that clear, we can then understand that if the probability of an event occurring is Y, then the probability of the event not occurring is 1- Y. I will cite you an example for further clarification: If the probability of an event is 0.80 (80%), then the probability that the event will not occur is 1-0.80 = 0.20, or 20%.

So, we can now understand that the odds of an event represent the ratio of the (probability that the event will occur) / (probability that the event will not occur). Actually this can be expressed a follows in a formula: Odds of event = Y / (1-Y)

In summary: The “statistical odds” by design allows for the calculation of a “relative risk” and should NEVER be looked upon as a “prediction.”

I trust you now have a better perspective …

Gatlin  posted on  2019-08-09 08:24:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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