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Title: Can Bowling Win Over the ‘Lebowski’ Generation?
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The Ringer
URL Source: https://www.theringer.com/sports/20 ... -lebowski-rob-stone-fox-sports
Published: Jul 25, 2019
Author: Bryan Curtis
Post Date: 2019-07-31 07:20:00 by Deckard
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Views: 6943
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It all came down to the white man with the giant Afro. Kyle Troup lifted a hand to get the crowd juiced, then closed his eyes. He picked up his multicolored Storm bowling ball from the ball return. “It’s my time,” he said. “It’s my time.” Facing a single roll that could win or lose the match, Troup felt excited, like an Olympic athlete in the clutch. Telling the story later, he pointed at his forearm and said, “I get chill marks just thinking about it!” If everything you know about bowling comes from The Big Lebowski or your 10th birthday party, Troup is exactly what you want a pro bowler to be. Last Wednesday, Troup paired his planetary Afro with a green shirt and dark green plaid pants, which made him look like an old tin of Christmas cookies. After one orgasmic strike, he pulled an Afro pick out of his pocket, autographed it, and handed it to a young woman standing in the front row. Troup is a second-generation bowler who followed his dad to the PBA tour. His dad’s name is Guppy. The Elias Cup in Portland, Maine, straddled the line between mesmerizing skill and camp. For the team event, bowlers were split into two sides. The bowlers on Troup’s Portland Lumberjacks team had nicknames like Hitman, Shark, and Big Nasty. Their opponents had nicknames like T.J., The Real Deal, and Beef Stu. This mise-en-scène is so attractive to hypothetical Midwestern diner-goers that Pete Buttigieg has made bowling a campaign prop. But what works in Iowa and New Hampshire can be deadly elsewhere. For two decades, the decline of bowling leagues has been a sociologist’s shorthand for the crack-up of American civic society. GoBowling.com’s tagline—“the original social network”—sounds a little like a person deciding late in life to be extremely online. But two things changed, putting bowlers like Troup in a different light. Viewers watching his climactic roll on FS1 saw more than the old shot of the ball traveling up the lane. Fox put a red tracer on the ball, like they do tee shots at the U.S. Open. So viewers followed Troup’s ball as it started right, flirted with the gutter, and then broke at the sixth board before making its journey to the “pocket” between the 1 and 3 pins. Viewers knew Troup’s ball reached a speed of 19.4 miles per hour (very fast) and moved at a rate of 504 revolutions per minute (very powerful). All the data gave an analytics-friendly spin to Troup’s proclamation that “I just dead-laced it.” The crowd in Portland wasn’t a church-pews bowling crowd. Bayside Bowl was filled with beer-swigging late-30-to-early-40-somethings who think of Lebowski as a sacred text. They didn’t care about bowling decorum. As Troup held his ball, they chanted, “The Troup, the Troup, the Troup is on fire!” One Portland regular, whose league name is White Russian, was wearing a Santa outfit. On Thursday, she showed up at Bayside in full Maude Lebowski Viking regalia. Her friends wore bowling pins on their heads. Fox, White Russian, and Troup’s Afro are part of a grand experiment. Bowling might never recover the 9.0 ratings it pulled down on ABC in the three-network era. But it might become a cable innings eater, like ESPN’s poker tour was 15 years ago, with its own collection of stars. What Fox wants is for a member of the Lebowski generation to stumble across bowling and say, “Oh, yeah, that’s the guy with the hair.” Holding his ball, Troup stared straight ahead. He rolled. He got nine, the exact score the Lumberjacks needed to win. When athletes celebrate, they tend to grab the guy who won the game by both sides of his head and scream. The Lumberjacks’ manager took a few steps toward Troup, grabbed both sides of his Afro, and shook it in giddy celebration. Bowling has been on television for 57 consecutive years. Its announcers have included ABC’s amiable Chris Schenkel, Mel Allen, and even ex-Dodger Leo Durocher. Before the age of HDTV, bowling had an advantage over big sports: Where those looked like a mess of dots on the screen, a bowler’s ecstasy and agony could be savored. Today, Fox shows the same replay for a Troup miss—a super-slow-mo shot of his face slowly turning downward—as it does for an Aaron Rodgers interception. Last year, as the PBA was winding up its contract with ESPN, a certain malaise settled over the tour. “It was just going through the motions and then waiting to see when this thing was going to fail,” said Randy Pedersen, a Fox analyst and Hall of Fame bowler. “How long was it going to be before this thing just takes a big, giant deuce and then what do we do?” Last spring, when Fox acquired the rights, it gave bowling the same embrace it once gave neglected sports like hockey. “They needed to be held, they needed to have their head petted and told they’re beautiful and shiny,” said Rob Stone, Fox’s bowling play-by-play announcer. On December 23, Fox aired the PBA Clash after an NFL single-header and drew an audience of 1.8 million viewers. The next month, Joe Buck plugged the PBA during a playoff game. “I wasn’t even sure Joe Buck knew what bowling was,” the English bowler Stuart Williams told me. Because it gets little coverage in newspapers or on SportsCenter, bowling tournaments are evergreen. Fox can replay them 10 times, just as ESPN once did poker. “That is how you become a household name if you’re a pro bowler,” said Norm Duke, who won twice on tour this year. “You want to be on television every dadgum day. You want to be like a soap opera.” “It has become this comfort food of sports,” said Stone. “You watch it. You’re happy. You’re placated. You’re not taken too high or too low.” Back in the ’60s, Schenkel lent bowling an NFL-style gravitas. Stone comes from a different school of play-by-play. Stone calls bowling like he’s working alongside Jason Bateman in DodgeBall. After a bowler named Anthony Simonsen rolled a nine-count in one frame of this year’s playoffs, Stone said, “Stupid 10 pin left standing. Worst pin in the business!” Later, he said: “Seriously, 10 pin, what is your problem today? … The 10 pin is my enemy.” If Kyle Troup is like a fantasy of a bowler, Stone is a fantasy of a bowling announcer. He is part super-fan, part purring psychologist: “That’s how you do it, Sean. … Keep it cool, Billy. Keep it cool, kid. … That was so smooth, so clean. … Hambone, yeah!” This spring, when Bill “The Real Deal” O’Neill rolled six straight strikes to start a match, Stone and Pedersen had this exchange: Stone: “Hey, Randy. You thirsty?” Pedersen: “I am.” Stone: “Crack open that six pack!” Tom Clark, the PBA commissioner, said he gets angry letters about Stone from traditionalists, and some of them appear to have been composed on typewriters. “When I was competing, it was a lot drier,” Pedersen said of the commentary. “They tried to make it a golf thing. We realized it’s just not that animal. This is an entertainment.” More replays and lustier announcing gave the PBA tour a nice spiffing-up. But as television, bowling had a fundamental problem. It looked too easy. “That’s kind of where our sport failed in the last 20 or 30 years … really getting across what makes it so difficult and why we’re so good,” Troup said. The Lumberjacks won the first game of the Elias Cup semifinal with a score of 226. A lot of league bowlers might think, “I can do that when I’m drunk.” Fox wanted viewers to appreciate a bowler’s skill by showing just what they’re up against. For instance, the lanes at local bowling alleys are oiled in such a way as to help you get a high score. At PBA events, they’re oiled to challenge a bowler and test their skill. “Bowling professionally is really akin to what a golfer faces on a green,” said Zac Fields, Fox’s senior vice president of graphic technology and integration. The PBA started using blue oil so a TV viewer can appreciate, say, a 42-foot Mark Roth pattern. Since bowling is the rare TV sport that plays vertically rather than horizontally, Fox made StrikeTrack a permanent fixture on the right side of the screen. In real time, a viewer can see precisely where a ball travels across the lane, and see how a deviation of even an inch can change the result. “Until you have a visual representation of that,” Jason Belmonte, an 11-time major winner who’s often called bowling’s Tiger Woods, said, “it becomes almost impossible for someone who doesn’t understand it to learn it.” There’s a fine line between dressing up bowling with analytics and pissing off its diehards. Geordie Wimmer, Fox’s executive producer of bowling, told me: “Fox has had issues in the past, whether it be with the glowing puck in the NHL or our soccer coverage, where we talk down to fans. That’s the criticism. I always see it as us trying to bring a sport up and make it better for everybody.” A plan to put cameras in pins was shelved because Fox couldn’t figure out how to make sure the camera would face forward every time the pins were racked. Fox wanted to simplify bowling’s complex scoring by starting with 300, a perfect game, and then showing how a bowler’s maximum score declined frame by frame. Maximum score is still used in the broadcast, but alongside traditional scoring. Just as win percentages and revealed hole cards turned poker players into geniuses or idiots, bowlers are now more answerable to the fans. “Not only are you accountable for your good shots,” said Belmonte. “You’re accountable for your bad ones.” Troup, speaking in the voice of a newly wised-up TV viewer, told me: “Oh, that’s why I can bowl 220 drinking my beer and eating my chicken wings and this guy won $500,000 bowling 195.” Fox is trying to make a game seem more like a sport. Last Thursday, I found Charlie Mitchell on the roof of Bayside Bowl. He was wearing a plaid sports coat that matched Kyle Troup’s pants. Mitchell is an intriguing figure in the bowling universe: an outsider who, in the process of trying to score his next drink, managed to modernize the sport. Mitchell worked for the ACLU in Washington, D.C., until 2007. He moved to Portland and started a bowling league to pass the time during Maine’s winter nights. “It was an excuse to go drinking on a Tuesday is all it was,” he said. Mitchell gave himself the nom de bowling of Karl Hungus, Lebowski’s “nihilist” character. He and the hundreds of pals who’d joined the league knew nothing about bowling. But they knew how to run up a bar tab. Erika Puschock—a.k.a. White Russian—told me: “We are a drinking league with a bowling problem.” In 2010, when Mitchell’s league outgrew a local alley, he and a partner built their own bowling palace northwest of downtown. Bayside Bowl offers some of the same hipster bait as “boutique” alleys across America. There’s an Airstream trailer on the roof where a latter-day Walter Sobchak can order jackfruit tacos, and a summer movie series that showed the documentary Helvetica last month. But beyond the aimless hipsters, Bayside cultivated a fiercely loyal army of regulars who’ve decided bowling isn’t just for grandpa. These are just the fans Fox and PBA wanted. When the PBA held its first tour event at Bayside, in 2015, Mitchell’s regulars started tailgating in the parking lot at 6:00 a.m. (A few passed out by 7:30.) Later, they would crowd into Fox TV shots, dressed like beauty queens or Champ Kind from Anchorman. It was like the missing link between The Rocky Horror Picture Show and College GameDay. “Everybody thought this was fake, that the PBA had set this up and these were paid actors,” Mitchell said. “If you rewatch the first season here,” Mitchell said, “Pete Weber approaches the lane on a spare shot, then smiles and steps back. That’s because one of our people fell into the lane.” That day, Mitchell made a rule for PBA events: If you’re too drunk to appear on television, you have to sit in the bar. Bayside has none of the expectant silence of hallowed alleys like Fairlawn, Ohio’s Riviera Lanes. “We want this place to be the Cameron Indoor Stadium of the PBA,” Tom Clark said. Last week, a DJ played “Seven Nation Army” and “Sweet Child O’ Mine” while the matches were in progress. Baysiders cheered before, during, and after the bowlers rolled. “At Bayside, just picking the ball up off the ball return is a big enough moment for them to go crazy,” Belmonte said. The Elias Cup finals were held on lanes on the east side of the building, which is pleasantly claustrophobic, like the lanes at a church rec center. Kimberly Pressler, Fox’s lane-side reporter, had to wear two earpieces so she could hear her cues. Baysiders had a chant for everything. As a bowler tried to pick up a spare, they yelled, “Clean your plate! Clean your plate!” When a bowler asked for the pins be re-racked—bowling’s equivalent of a time out, sometimes deployed strategically—they yelled, “Re-rack! Re-rack!” The crowd greeted every bowler with a signature cheer. For BJ Moore (with evident relish): “More BJ! More BJ!” For Dick Allen (ditto): “Diiiiick!” At Thursday night’s final, the bowler Anthony Lavery-Spahr was greeted with the chant, “Iiiiice Bucket!” Even Clark, the PBA commissioner, had to find a Baysider to explain the reference. It turns out that Lavery-Spahr’s initials are ALS, and there was that ice bucket challenge five years ago … and that’s Bayside humor for you. At first, some bowlers regarded Bayside’s wall of sound as either baffling or distracting. “The greatest players in the world were missing easy spares that they make 95 percent of the time,” Clark said. But for a brand-builder like Troup, these were his social media followers made flesh. “Not only does my opponent have to try and beat me, they also have to try and beat Bayside Bowl,” Troup said. “I feel like they’re on my side.” found Troup relaxing on the same roof deck before his match. Against the setting sun, his Afro took on the character of a celestial body, and for a moment it was like I was staring at Tatooine’s twin suns. Inside Fox, there have been conversations about how to bring out bowlers’ personalities. One idea is to play up the rivalry between fan favorites like Troup (“I’m on the hero side of the PBA”) and players like Belmonte whose two-handed style has earned him his share of detractors. Bowlers resist going too far down the road to WWE. “The day that someone from Fox tells me to start saying certain things is the day I’m probably very, very quiet,” Belmonte said. “Because I don’t want to conform to someone else’s plan for me.” Bowling doesn’t need much world-building. Bowlers have their own world that’s just perfect. They have bowling clichés. (“I’m just a guy trying to knock down 10 pins.”) They have hidden desires. (Kris Prather, who won this year’s PBA playoffs, told me that if he hadn’t become a bowler he would have been a marine biologist.) Bowlers stow their bags under tables in the alley while they compete, and work on their balls in plain sight. Before a match, you might find one playing Golden Tee in the alley’s arcade. When you interview a bowler, they often give you their cell number and tell you to call if you need anything else. If you want gamesmanship, bowling has it. In the Elias Cup finals, Belmonte, who was bowling for a team called the LA X, held his pose near the foul line as he bowled a strike. In bowling, this is called “posting.” It indicates good form and intense concentration. The next bowler after Belmonte was Ryan Ciminelli, who was bowling for the Lumberjacks. Ciminelli threw a strike, too, held his form even longer than Belmonte, and turned his head to peek back at the other players. You know, just to send a message. It was one of the most badass things I’ve ever seen. Bowlers are proletariat heroes. On tour, four bowlers might crowd into a hotel room to save money. This year, the tour produced just one six-figure winner’s check, for $100,000. “I was nervous on my wedding day, but this tops all of it,” Prather said as he contemplated it. Before that, Prather’s career winnings for five years on tour came out to around $180,000. Bowling’s greatest advantage is its own aesthetic, which no network could monkey with even if it wanted to. In Portland, I met 25-year-old Jakob Butturff, from Las Vegas, an amazing lefty who’s no. 2 on this year’s money list. Butturff’s calling card is the giant Cubic Zirconia studs he wears in his ears. I told Butturff I couldn’t imagine someone with his name being an All-American quarterback. It just didn’t fit. Butturff is the perfect bowler’s name. “Definitely,” Butturff said. Though they’re targeting the Lebowski generation, a lot of bowlers aren’t huge fans of Lebowski. Some haven’t even seen it. “I get a lot of shit for that,” Troup said. “The reason why I haven’t watched Big Lebowski,” Prather explained, “is because it’s not about bowling. It just has bowling in it.” Stuart Williams told me he’s not high on Lebowski because he doesn’t get stoned. All three said their go-to bowling movie is Kingpin. The fact that bowlers prefer Kingpin is telling. It’s a reminder they think there’s something intrinsically cool about the sport that doesn’t need the validation of the Coens, much less the Murdochs. It’s also a polite form of hauteur that elevates the pro bowler over every other dude (or Dude) who hangs around an alley. As Randy Quaid says in Kingpin, “Wow, it’s kind of intimidating to be in the presence of so many great athletes.” The final night at Bayside was the most endearing. When Troup’s Portland Lumberjacks won the Elias Cup, the Bayside regulars ran from the stands into the lanes and mobbed them. Tom Clark, the PBA commissioner, thought it was the first lane-rushing in the history of bowling. I ran into the lane and joined the celebration. As Troup’s Afro bobbed up and down over everyone’s heads, I felt a genuine, unmanufactured joy. Champagne was poured into the winners’ trophy. Troup took a big swig. “I got one question,” he said. “Who’s ready to party?!”
Poster Comment: Pretty fun to watch, especially with the graphics. A lot of the bowlers seem to be going with the two-handed approach.
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Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. No, it really isn't. It sounded like a roaring crowd of about 10 people. Which is about what it deserves. Bowling, as a non-athletic skill competition, has all the sports appeal of golf, another loser "sport".
I agree. Bowling will never be "cool". Golf, on the other hand, is a great spectator sport. The Phoenix Open drew over 600,000 fans.
They're senile, drunk, or both. I don't object to people enjoying skills-based games. Just don't call them a "sport". A real sport incorporates elements of athleticism. Playing billiards, for instance, just is not a "sport". Look at these pencil-neck, skinny-armed bowlers. No one will ever consider them athletic. They have skills to be sure but no evident athleticism. For that matter, NASCAR is not a sport either, there is no such thing as "motor sports". The nature of driving pretty much precludes any athletic talent. But it rewards reflexes and an ability to anticipate the physics of your vehicle compared to competing vehicles as they complete the track layout.
Much better than in the old days when the crowd remained silent. Bowling, as a non-athletic skill competition, has all the sports appeal of golf, another loser "sport". Bowling, as well as golf, are both sports.
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. You probably consider poker or darts to be a sport as well.
Poker, maybe - maybe not. But they are showing cornhole tournaments on ESPN - guess that's not a sport either.
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. I thought cornhole was when the hillbilly guy in Deliverance was telling the city slicker to "squeal like a pig". Looking it up, I see that you're referring to beanbag, the actual name of the game. And it is attested by the Oxford dictionary. And the usage of phrases like "politics ain't beanbag". It's just another skill game, not a sport.
No bean bags are used in cornhole. The bags per rules are to be filled with corn. There is no game I know of called bean bag. Sport or not it is kind of fun.
Would that make paintball a sport. I used to love playing paintball. Still do just haven't played in years.
The game is called "cornhole" and yes, they use beanbags. The bags that the pros use are filled with beans that are synthetic.
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. I didn't say it wasn't fun, especially for kids. I said is was a skill game, not a sport (which requires some competitive athletic talent).
Firearms competition are also not a sport. There are some variations, like those competitions where you cross-country ski fast, stop and shoot, ski more, shoot more, etc. The score is based on how fast you ski and how well you shoot. I can't recall what they called it but I had a friend years back who was in National Guard and he was highly ranked at this skiing-and-shooting sport. It's a sport because skiing is inherently athletic. Next thing you know, people will be arguing that eating Tide pods is a sport. Or that video games are a sport. And they aren't. They're just skill games. [And I sometimes wonder why I don't get invited to parties when I have such charming opinions...]
Biathlon
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. I think they use corn mostly now. Go back a few decades and it was all beans, no corn. Chalk another win up for the Iowa Corn Growers Association.
Yep, that's it. Thx.
You didn't answer the question. I playing paintball a sport. You have two teams in the woods. Each team has a flag. You can shoot their players to take them out. You have to capture the flag and return it to your base to win the game. Or there is body count where you play for set time after first person is shot and see who kills the most. This is important stuff we need to know.
I believe you did that. I would call golf a "game".
You have two teams in the woods. Each team has a flag. You can shoot their players to take them out. You have to capture the flag and return it to your base to win the game. If the woods are large enough that athletic qualities become decisive to the outcome, I'd say it is a sport. But I don't think plinking targets in general is a sport. Or that shooting tournaments are a sport. The biathlon mentioned above is a sport IMO. No matter how good a shot you are, you have to be a very fit skier or you can't win. A real sport incorporates indispensable athletic talent, usually accompanied by high-level game skills. Just be patient, I can explain it all for you. Promise. BTW, darts is a skill game but throwing axes is probably a sport. Also, wheelchair basketball and wheelchair tennis are sports. None of these are much fun to watch but the point of sport is to play, not watch. Also, ballet and modern dance are not considered sports but figure skating in singles or doubles at the Winter Olympics is a sport because it requires so much athleticism, much as gymnastics does.
It is a skill game. Perhaps its best claim to being athletic is that a certain amount of strength is needed to use a driver when teeing off. But you don't see golfers engaging in a lot of weightlifting to build muscle. A good drive shot in golf is much more about skill and technique than it is about raw physical strength. I think golfers want some lean muscle and suppleness, not big muscles. I'm sitting here, trying to think of any golf champions like Arnold Palmer or Tiger Woods who were big hulking physical specimens. I don't think there ever were any. Not really a sport for the musclebound.
I had to check: Weather and altitude played a role in Austin's 515 yard drive. Weather reports for the day report potential hot tailwinds of up to 35 mph. The Las Vegas course is at an altitude of over 2,000 feet above sea level. Despite this advantage, it is important to remember Austin was using a wooden club and a balata ball, both of which have been replaced by more technologically advanced equipment. The closest drive at a PGA Tour event occurred in 2004 with much more modern equipment, Davis Love III's respectable 476 yarder at the Mercedes Championship. Austin's secret, as he said in an interview with the Los Angeles Times, is his use of physics. Austin applied his undergraduate degree in physics and his doctoral in kinesiology to his swing. The result, Austin said, was something you wouldn't see PGA pros emulate today because his swing relied more on the uniformity of muscle movement rather than raw strength and power. It's also worth noting that despite his impressive drive, he still recorded a bogey on the hole.
Whether some is, or is not, a sport depends largely on how one defines sport. From New Oxford American Dictionary, Second Edition - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Bowling is, or has been, both a sport and a game. As a beginning frame of reference, I have no use whatever for what bowling has devolved into today. I am from the era of wooden lanes, single void pins, rubber (and early plastic) bowling balls, limits on top and side weight, and keeping score. Back in the day, a 190 average was very good, and pros averaged 200-210. It is not uncommon today to see local bowlers average 220-230. The game has become a joke, and the TV broadcasts are a circus. Today, the lanes are finished with plastic or urethane. Unlike wood, the surface is consistent from lane to lane. The pins have multiple voids or hollow spots so they jump all about when hit. The biggest factor is the bowling balls. Made of synthetic compounds, they are expensive, but the bowler may use multiple balls and dial up the lane grip, hook and desired striking power. The balls are drilled off-center, with top and side weight to also add hook and power. Today's 90-lb weakling can generate more pin-striking power than the top pros of 50 or 60 years ago. Which reminds me, the article mentions that the father of Kyle Troup (never heard of him before) is named Guppy. Guppy Troup was a pro bowler back in the day. And today a pro bowler brings to mind a football player who played in the Pro Bowl. They shoot for strikes with a ball that grabs like crazy under any conditions. The pocket is effectively expanded, resulting in a pro average of seven or eight strikes a game. They use a ball with little grip for spares, they face few of them, and look like amateurs doing it. It is the result of having to use entirely different throwing actions to kill the hook. Hi-tech has made the game/sport much more expensive, and less dependent on skill. Back when, you had to generate your own power, and 99% of bowlers used one ball. Today's top level game turns too much on who gets the fewest taps or the most splash strikes. Back in the day, doing that with a bowling ball, at that velocity, was impossible. Bowling has lost the previous generation. Whether it can attract the Big Lebowski generation is open. As a beer guzzling event at the local lanes, perhaps. As a TV event, I doubt it. Something similar hit tennis and, to a lesser extent, golf. Technology allowed by the rules allows very expensive tennis racquets, which enable today's ladies to serve harder than Bjorn Borg or Jimmy Connors ever did. It has taken much of the post-serve game out of the game. It is just a different game. Golf allowed technology which enabled gargantuan drives. They had the ability to make the pro courses much longer, or par would have devolved into a joke. They still act to prohibit tech such as a new ball that can fly straight despite a hook or slice hit. In baseball, first they juiced the players and then the balls, and shrunk the fields and the strike zone. They made a joke of the very long standing home run records. Now they are back to juicing the balls, or really modifying the stiching to minimize drag. Darts is considered a game of skill, actually adjudicated as such in a very old English court case involving darts and pubs and gambling. The players used to smoke and drink while playing on TV. Former 5-time champ Eric Bristow once famously set his pint down on a TV camera before throwing. While I dissent from some of what has become Olympic "sports," I reckon any of these could be a sport as much as synchronized swimming. Even consider figure skating. How does a sport get judged by artistic impression?
I read something about bowling recently. They mentioned that most alleys are using a type of oil on the lane surface that enables less skilled bowlers to get higher scores. They use a different oil when they have tournaments for bowling pros which make it much harder. I don't know how much of that is true but they wrote the article as though this was common knowledge among bowlers and how much difference it made to use regulation alley oil. I used to kind of like watching, of all things, the sled racing in the winter Olympics. Then I finally realized what a hokey non-sport it really was and stopped having any interest. And curling? That's a sport? Yet you find idiots who think it's great fun to watch. Just an old Scottish game that migrated to Canada. I don't think basketball, hockey, soccer or football belong in the Olympics, even for exhibition purposes. They're pro-sports and largely American/Canadian anyway except for soccer. They drag out the Olympics, day after day. And it's hard to keep up and catch the events you want to watch. I finally decided some years back that their manipulative scheduling made the entire thing not worth trying to watch, even on Tivo. The modern NFL games drag on and on, lots of waiting for any action at all, so much watching replays and cameras zooming around and commentary, not very much action from the two teams. The increasing politicization in sports has also decreased my interest in general in broadcast sports.
I have been known to view televised bowling tournaments, but it is a boring sport. Then again, I used to belong to 3 bowling leagues. Sundays was the Bucks and Does. Wednesday was the American Legion Mens, Fridays was the "get a ball free" league, where newcomers would play in hopes they would become addicted. I had a blast, and only quit because I shattered an ankle in '99. In between then and now, they banned smoking, and increased the DUI patrols to the point that people don't go out to have a good time as adults anymore, and all of the smokers go to the Injun casinos. The hyper enforcement of drunk driving laws, and banning of tobacco have a lot to do with the lack of socialization of adults. Everyone stays home, or chases their children or grand-childrens petty lives. The best athletes are the best bowlers BTW. I averaged 185, but our best was at 204 and he had a 2 handicap at golf also.
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I had to look at this again. I really can't imagine they'd ever allow such a broadcast again. I recall the old boxing matches, many in B&W. They'd never broadcast those now. They seem to have largely taken boxing off TV the way it is. I've wondered if that might happen to the NFL in 20 years or so but the NFL is so big, it's almost a Sport Too Big To Fail.
I don't know how much of that is true but they wrote the article as though this was common knowledge among bowlers and how much difference it made to use regulation alley oil. The oiling of the lanes is very relevant to scoring. The ABC specifies differing oil patterns for each of the professional tournaments. It makes a big difference how far down the lane the oil is distributed and where is it distributed as it nears the pins. An advantage for leftys is that their side is bowled on less and the oil pattern changes less quickly. I don't know about differing oils, but differing oil patterns. I haven't bowled in decades, so maybe this is something new. Synthetic compositions were created for bowling balls to enable grip on oily lanes for the first throw, and to diminish grip on the second throw to make the ball go straighter for spares. Yep. Curling is big in Canada. Hockey is the national pastime. The Olympics have strayed a bit from their motto, "stronger, higher, faster." But one of the beginning Olympic sports was wrestling. Now the whole thing is one gigantic commercial enterprise. I did enjoy some of it when I lived in Europe and the distance running events were not interrupted by commercials, and they did not spend excessive time covering non-competitive athletes at something dominated by other nations.
I spent a significant number of years around the Brits and threw darts in leagues and tournaments. I caught then-World Champ Welshman Leighton Rees (the first recognized world champion) in an exhibition near where I lived in Scotland. I think he faced twelve of the local county players and probably downed a pint for every one. And won all the matches while doing it. Now on TV they have water and no smoking. They play the championship at Victoria Palace (the Ally Pally) and the Brits turn it into a costume party along with lots of singing. The top players are not just Brits any more, but include Dutch, Germans, and a few more. For several years, the world #1 has been a Dutch player, Michael van Gerwen. For sheer dominance, there was Englishman Phil Taylor, recently retired. In a tournament format where each round is win or go home, he won sixteen times.
What bowling and golf have in common is that you don't really compete against other players. You compete against yourself. Your opponent is not on the other end of the lane trying to block your ball. It's just you, the lane, and the pins. I.e. in bowling and golf, there are no defensive plays.
I considered that too. You can say the same of track events and other sports. The ancient Olympics and their biggest champions were mostly about running or wrestling in which the victor defeated one or more rivals in direct competition. But they also had javelin throwing and discus throwing. I think the key distinction between a sport and a game of skill is that athletic prowess is, overall, indispensable in the outcome of victory or defeat. In competition where both skill and athletics are required, the outcome is a sport if physically superior competitors have a decisive edge over some obese land whale even if they have identical skill levels. A sport has a decisive element of physicality. A game of skill does not.
This may be true but it doesn't make bowling a sport. People who have excelled at actual sports or who have high levels of physical ability may have an increased interest in activities that allow hierarchical competition. Maybe they played high school football or basketball and learned to work hard and compete to win over another team or to out-compete a teammate for a starting position on the team. Maybe they were always the JV guy in high school but they finally have a skill game they can compete at and be a winner and a top local player and score some esteem from the other local players and build a wall of cheap bowling trophies to make them feel good about themselves. Maybe they're an ex-athlete who has put on 200 pounds but they can still be a winner by out-bowling other people. And some ex-athletes simply love the competition, win or lose. Maybe they were never athletes when younger but have finally found something they can win at and score a few trophies. These are all things that prop up a skill game for people who never were or are no longer athletic. So you may well be right. Which doesn't disprove my assertion that bowling is not a sport.
Impressive enough for him personally. But someone in such a tournament was inevitably going to win 16 times in a row, no matter their skills. It is due to the structure of such a competition.
Only the winners.
Who knows, maybe golf will become a sport and not the hobby of elderly men. It could happen. Of course, to me this makes golf even more stupid and undesirable. Much of the appeal of golf comes down to being a skill game that almost anyone compete in if they aren't on crutches or in a wheelchair. If it becomes yet another competition for the most physically fit, the most competitive, the most athletic, then golf loses what little appeal it ever had. Because golf is, fundamentally, a retarded and ridiculous game but at least everyone could play it and even do well with a little practice. Don't get me wrong. I'm fine with destroying golf as a skill game for the masses by turning it into a sport. I also support destroying women's sports entirely by letting the tranny-men call themselves women and win all the trophies and thereby make women's sports a huge joke. And I've even changed my mind on anthem-kneeling as I now 100% support every NFL team kneeling in protest every time the anthem is played. But my motives are political and have nothing to do with the merits of golf as a game or female-only sports or the silly patriotic spectacles that the NFL let the Pentagon stage at every game. I just think these issues can help conservatives win elections in Blue states.
Much of the appeal of __________ comes down to being a skill game that almost anyone compete in if they aren't on crutches or in a wheelchair. Fill in the blank -- baseball, basketball, football, tennis, wrestling, etc. You aren't saying anything profound.
They have wheelchair basketball. And I think it is a sport, just a sport played entirely with your hands. They've also developed wheelchair tennis but I'm not sure that it really works. The action is just too quick and the required movement from side to side on the court, well...not as good as wheelchair basketball which isn't too bad to watch. The basketball guys have some game. But maybe that just means that basketball is more wheelchairable than tennis is.
That tournament is held once a year, six rounds, with only the top players invited. He had to go undefeated in 16 different years, and stay in top form for 20 years. The next most World Championship (est. 1978) wins is 5 by Eric Bristow (d. 2018), and then Michael van Gerwen (active) and John Lowe (ret) with 3. Taylor won 8 consecutive world championships, and reached 14 consecutive finals. He also won the annual World Matchplay championship 16 times. He had 214 tournament wins, and was runnerup 46 times. Nobody else's record is remotely near Taylor's.
Oh. I thought it was a typical elimination tournament. It's rather odd to even have a sport where a single champion can hold top honors for 20 years or so and build up record wins. I'm trying to think of other sports or skill games where that is true. If it was golf, you'd have old pros like Arnold Palmer or Jack Nicklaus who won a lot of tournaments as younger players and then went on to win more tournaments as the top seniors golf champions. Pele was a superstar Brazilian soccer player and played for about 20 years. He was a star player, no doubt. There are a few basketball players at the very top who had long careers. Somehow, it seems unfair to compare team sports to someone like a solo undefeated champion of 15+ years in a skill game like darts or golf or bowling. I can't really think of other sports where you can have such long-running champions. I suppose there have to have been some undefeated boxers over the years who had long careers undefeated on the order of about 10+ years.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#2. To: Deckard (#0)
Pretty fun to watch, especially with the graphics.
#3. To: Tooconservative (#2)
It sounded like a roaring crowd of about 10 people. Which is about what it deserves.
#4. To: misterwhite (#3)
Golf, on the other hand, is a great spectator sport. The Phoenix Open drew over 600,000 fans.
#5. To: Tooconservative (#2)
It sounded like a roaring crowd of about 10 people. Which is about what it deserves.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#6. To: Deckard (#5)
Bowling, as well as golf, are both sports.
#7. To: Tooconservative (#6)
You probably consider poker or darts to be a sport as well.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#8. To: Deckard (#7)
But they are showing cornhole tournaments on ESPN - guess that's not a sport either.
#9. To: Tooconservative (#8)
Looking it up, I see that you're referring to beanbag, the actual name of the game.
#10. To: Tooconservative (#8)
sport /spôrt/ Learn to pronounce noun 1. an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.
#11. To: A K A Stone (#9)
No bean bags are used in cornhole.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#12. To: A K A Stone (#9)
Sport or not it is kind of fun.
#13. To: A K A Stone (#10)
Would that make paintball a sport.
#14. To: Tooconservative (#13)
(Edited)
The score is based on how fast you ski and how well you shoot. I can't recall what they called it
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#15. To: Deckard (#11)
The game is called "cornhole" and yes, they use beanbags.
#16. To: Deckard (#14)
Biathlon
#17. To: Tooconservative (#13)
#18. To: Tooconservative (#4)
Just don't call them a "sport".
#19. To: A K A Stone (#17)
You didn't answer the question. I playing paintball a sport.
This is important stuff we need to know.
#20. To: misterwhite (#18)
I would call golf a "game".
#21. To: misterwhite (#18)
In Sept. 25, 1974, Mike Austin rocketed a drive 515 yards on a 450 yard par 4 with a persimmon wood driver while competing in the U.S. National Senior Open Championship at Desert Rose Resort, Las Vegas. What's even more amazing was that Austin, now deceased, was 64 at the time he set the record.
#22. To: Deckard, Tooconservative (#0)
Sport. An activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.
Bowling. the game of tenpin bowling as a sport or recreation.
Viewers knew Troup’s ball reached a speed of 19.4 miles per hour (very fast) and moved at a rate of 504 revolutions per minute (very powerful). All the data gave an analytics-friendly spin to Troup’s proclamation that “I just dead-laced it.”
#23. To: nolu chan (#22)
Back in the day, a 190 average was very good, and pros averaged 200-210. It is not uncommon today to see local bowlers average 220-230. The game has become a joke, and the TV broadcasts are a circus.
While I dissent from some of what has become Olympic "sports," I reckon any of these could be a sport as much as synchronized swimming. Even consider figure skating. How does a sport get judged by artistic impression?
#24. To: Deckard (#0)
#25. To: nolu chan (#22)
Darts is considered a game of skill, actually adjudicated as such in a very old English court case involving darts and pubs and gambling. The players used to smoke and drink while playing on TV. Former 5-time champ Eric Bristow once famously set his pint down on a TV camera before throwing.
#26. To: Tooconservative (#23)
I read something about bowling recently. They mentioned that most alleys are using a type of oil on the lane surface that enables less skilled bowlers to get higher scores. They use a different oil when they have tournaments for bowling pros which make it much harder.
And curling? That's a sport? Yet you find idiots who think it's great fun to watch. Just an old Scottish game that migrated to Canada.
I don't think basketball, hockey, soccer or football belong in the Olympics, even for exhibition purposes. They're pro-sports and largely American/Canadian anyway except for soccer.
#27. To: Tooconservative (#25)
I had to look at this again. I really can't imagine they'd ever allow such a broadcast again.
#28. To: Tooconservative, Deckard (#6)
Bowling, as well as golf, are both sports.
#29. To: Pinguinite (#28)
(Edited)
What bowling and golf have in common is that you don't really compete against other players. You compete against yourself. Your opponent is not on the other end of the lane trying to block your ball. It's just you, the lane, and the pins. I.e. in bowling and golf, there are no defensive plays.
#30. To: jeremiad (#24)
(Edited)
The best athletes are the best bowlers BTW.
#31. To: nolu chan (#27)
For sheer dominance, there was Englishman Phil Taylor, recently retired. In a tournament format where each round is win or go home, he won sixteen times.
#32. To: Tooconservative (#20)
But you don't see golfers engaging in a lot of weightlifting to build muscle.
#33. To: misterwhite (#32)
#34. To: Tooconservative (#33)
Much of the appeal of golf comes down to being a skill game that almost anyone compete in if they aren't on crutches or in a wheelchair.
#35. To: misterwhite (#34)
Fill in the blank -- baseball, basketball, football, tennis, wrestling, etc. You aren't saying anything profound.
#36. To: Tooconservative (#31)
Impressive enough for him personally. But someone in such a tournament was inevitably going to win 16 times in a row, no matter their skills. It is due to the structure of such a competition.
#37. To: nolu chan (#36)
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