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Title: After 6-Year Fight, Florida Couple Wins Right to Grow Veggies at Home
Source: Reason
URL Source: https://reason.com/2019/07/05/after ... right-to-grow-veggies-at-home/
Published: Jul 5, 2019
Author: Billy Binion
Post Date: 2019-07-05 21:25:51 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 10663
Comments: 41

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Vegetables are ugly. Or at least that's the view of the officials in Miami Shores, Florida, who implemented a ban on front-yard vegetable gardens at residential properties in 2013. The ordinance forced Hermine Ricketts and her husband, Laurence Carroll, to uproot the garden they'd maintained for nearly two decades.

Now they can start planting again: The Florida legislature has passed a bill shielding vegetable gardens from local prohibitions. "After nearly six years of fighting…I will once again be able to legally plant vegetables in my front yard," Ricketts said in a statement. "I'm grateful to the Legislature and the governor for standing up to protect my freedom to grow healthy food on my own property."

The Institute for Justice filed a lawsuit on Ricketts' behalf in 2013. Florida's Third District Court of Appeals upheld the ban, and the state's Supreme Court declined to hear the case. So Ricketts and the institute lobbied the legislature, and it passed a law effectively invalidating the local ordinance. Gov. Ron DeSantis signed it last week.

How were city commissioners able to pass the rule in the first place, much less get it past an appeals court? It was billed as a zoning regulation, which cities have near-unlimited power in implementing. The Florida League of Cities opposed Ricketts' efforts until the end, arguing that code enforcement is an essential tool for maintaining a town's aesthetic. They also didn't like the idea of a state government preempting measures adopted at the local level.

Ricketts now uses a wheelchair and has suffered from a litany of health issues in recent years, which she blames on stress induced by the legal battle. She's hoping that a little gardening might be the medicine she needs.

"You're down on the earth, touching the soil, kneeling on the ground….It's a healing process," she told the Miami Herald. "I'm hoping to get back in the garden and spend time outside doing things I love. The healing things in the sunshine."

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#1. To: Deckard (#0)

"She's hoping that a little gardening might be the medicine she needs."

No. She's hoping that a little front-yard gardening might be the medicine she needs. I guess having a garden in the backyard -- where normal people have one -- just won't hack it.

Hey, it's all about her. Fuck the rest of the neighbors and what they think.

misterwhite  posted on  2019-07-06   9:12:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: misterwhite (#1) (Edited)

Hey, it's all about her. Fuck the rest of the neighbors and what they think.

An orderly, well-kept garden is not an eyesore. They can be as attractive to many of us as just-another-freaking-water-wasting-fertilizer-sucking-patch-of-bluegrass.

The city is still free to use zoning laws to ensure that the garden is maintained and not some overgrown mess.

A government powerful enough to dictate your use of your front yard is also powerful to put you in jail or shoot you if you don't comply. Over growing vegetables, for instance.

I also think that the craze for locally grown produce lends some leeway to the gardening couple. They just want to grow some food to put on their table. It makes them more self-sufficient. It is the ultimate in local produce so it is much more environmentally friendly than mandating this couple grow a lawn, throwing potable water and lots of fertilizer on it and generating smog from some crappy lawnmower to keep it cut and then they burn some gas to drive to a store to buy all their produce, much of which is trucked in hundreds or thousands of miles. Because their nosy neighbors are offended by the sight of food production.

We have a farmer's market here in the summer. It isn't widely known but there are a few retired elderly guys who grow tomatoes and melon to sell there. They even rent their neighbor's backyards or rent entire vacant house lots to grow vegetables on. The community gets local produce, less water wasted on a useless lawn (or patch of weeds), less mowing and fertilizing on these lower-value or unused properties. The gardens are well-kept and they tear out the tomato or melon vines as soon as they stop producing. Then they keep the gardening area clear of weeds, letting the garden lie fallow until next year. In some cases, they have a low-rent trailer or tiny house and the landlord rents out the house and front yard but they still rent out the back yard to a produce gardener.

We certainly don't lack busybodies in this town but no one complains a bit about these rather large gardens, located in a low-rent area of town.

No one complains about it at all, at least not publicly. We still have some empty lots from very old houses getting torn down that I wish they would grow gardens on. People who own a house lot with no house on it don't keep them maintained or keep a lawn going.

What's to stop the city-dwellers from deciding they're offended by the sight of cattle ranches or feedlots or cornfields and passing laws to require those businesses to move out of view from interstates and highways? You know, because some busybodies like you have decided they don't want to look at food being produced.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-07-06   10:49:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Tooconservative (#2)

They just want to grow some food to put on their table.

Sure. Just do it in the back yard. You're conflating their right to have a garden with their right to have it in the front yard. Typical bleeding heart liberal tactic -- "They onnnnnly want to grow foooood …".

The city/county/neighbors don't want vegetable gardens in the front of houses. They looks like crap and lower home values. I'm guessing they also don't allow swing sets, swimming pools, and clothes lines in front yards for the same reason.

misterwhite  posted on  2019-07-06   12:13:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: misterwhite (#3)

The city/county/neighbors don't want vegetable gardens in the front of houses.

It's not their property. They don't pay taxes on it.

I'm guessing they also don't allow swing sets, swimming pools, and clothes lines in front yards for the same reason.

I don't mind seeing any of those in front yards. And it isn't my property anyway.

What else do you want to give nosy neighbors and petty tyrants on some local HOA or city council the power to do? Dictate what color your house can be? The color of your car? What kind of trees and shrub you can plant? Mandate a specific bluegrass variety or outlaw buffalo grass (which isn't as pretty as bluegrass but saves a lot on water and fertilizer)?

You seem to love all this jackbooted nonsense.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-07-06   12:26:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Tooconservative (#5)

It's not their property. They don't pay taxes on it.

But they have to look at it. And it affects their property values. Don't they have rights, also?

misterwhite  posted on  2019-07-06   21:37:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: misterwhite (#7)

But they have to look at it. And it affects their property values. Don't they have rights, also?

Yes they have a right to move if they don't like it.

It doesn't matter if they don't like they way it looks. It doesn't matter if it affects their property value.

Where in the constitution does it give someone rights if someone does something that affects their property value? It doesn't.

A K A Stone  posted on  2019-07-07   8:42:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: A K A Stone (#9)

Yes they have a right to move if they don't like it.

Who would want to buy their property next to a shit-hole house?

"Where in the constitution does it give someone rights if someone does something that affects their property value? It doesn't."

We're talking about a local ordinance, not the U.S. Constitution. The people decided how they will live. They have rights, too.

misterwhite  posted on  2019-07-07   9:11:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: misterwhite (#10)

We're talking about a local ordinance, not the U.S. Constitution. The people decided how they will live. They have rights, too.

The owner of the propertys rights trumps you little snowflakes non right to tell someone else what to do on their property.

They have no rights to your property to tell you what to do with it. None nada.

A K A Stone  posted on  2019-07-07   10:15:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: A K A Stone (#15)

They have no rights to your property to tell you what to do with it. None nada.

Can I move in next to you and raise hogs? They're a little smelly. And noisy sometimes. And they love mud.

misterwhite  posted on  2019-07-07   11:07:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: misterwhite (#25)

Can I move in next to you and raise hogs? They're a little smelly. And noisy sometimes. And they love mud.

If you want to go ahead. It would be your property.

I want some chickens myself.

A K A Stone  posted on  2019-07-07   11:14:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone (#30)

I want some chickens myself.

I have a cousin who lives in a very large old farmhouse in a tony section of town - over 250K population - where he owns almost a half-block of land. He keeps a flock of chickens, has a chicken coop even. He knows some others who have chickens too.

You want chickens for eggs or for slaughter? I assume for the eggs, I haven't heard of anyone raising pullets inside a town for meat.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-07-07   11:23:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Tooconservative (#31)

I don't really like eggs. Unless they are in a cake or something. Or maybe hard boiled.

Honestly they probably wouldn't taste as good as what I buy at the store.

A K A Stone  posted on  2019-07-07   11:27:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: A K A Stone (#32)

Now I'm trying to picture someone raising chickens for meat in town and doing the usual slaughter in the backyard. Using the traditional beheading method. Typically, in our area, you'd grab the chicken by the legs, put its head under a steel rod, stand on the rod, and pull on the legs to rip its head off. And of course the body shakes a lot so the body will flap around a lot, spewing blood everywhere so you release it and it flops around, leaving blood everywhere. After it stops twitching, you can start defeathering it.

I'm sure misterwhite just fainted at the thought of his neighbors beheading chickens in a bloody backyard spectacle.

I think a lot of people might draw the line at meat production in town where just keeping hens for laying is generally much more acceptable.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-07-07   11:39:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Tooconservative (#35)

I'm sure misterwhite just fainted at the thought of his neighbors beheading chickens in a bloody backyard spectacle.

I live on a farm. Beheaded chickens with an ax. But when all is said and done, not worth the effort.

misterwhite  posted on  2019-07-07   12:24:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: misterwhite (#39)

Axes are for pussies. Just rip their heads off, Game of Thrones style.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-07-07   13:56:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#41. To: Tooconservative (#40) (Edited)

Axes are for pussies.

I meant hatchet. A dull hatchet. Blindfolded (me, not the chickens).

But the best way is with a killing cone. This way they don't flop around and break a leg or wing.

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