LF: Thousands marvel as total eclipse darkens Chile, Argentina, Flat-Earthers Call it FAKE

Title: Thousands marvel as total eclipse darkens Chile, Argentina, Flat-Earthers Call it FAKE - "The sun hologram needs updating’"
Source: Associated Press
URL Source: https://www.apnews.com/0eb6678b88944c48a925fbe20cef75c7
Published: Jul 3, 2019
Author: AP
Post Date: 2019-07-03 07:51:20 by Deckard
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Views: 6716
Comments: 35

The moon blocks the sun during a total solar eclipse in La Higuera, Chile, Tuesday, July 2, 2019. Northern Chile is known for clear skies and some of the largest, most powerful telescopes on Earth are being built in the area, turning the South American country into a global astronomy hub. (AP Photo/Esteban Felix)

LA SERENA, Chile (AP) — Tens of thousands of tourists and locals gaped skyward Tuesday as a total eclipse of the sun darkened the heavens over Chile and Argentina.

Tourists from around the world gathered to witness the cosmic spectacle, which began in the morning as the moon crossed in front of the sun and cast a shadow that passed over a tiny uninhabited atoll in the South Pacific and headed to South America. Chile and Argentina were the only inhabited places where the total eclipse could be seen.

The eclipse made its first landfall in Chile at 3:22 p.m. (1922 GMT) in La Serena, a city of some 200,000 people where the arrival of more than 300,000 visitors forced the local water company to increase output and service gas stations to store extra fuel. Police and health services were also reinforced.

“Oh! Oh! Oh!” thousands of spectators shouted as they jumped and danced without taking their eyes off the sky. After a brief moment of silence, the yelling returned as the sun’s rays began reaching Earth again.

‘The sun hologram needs updating’ THIS is how flat earthers explain the solar eclipse

A total solar eclipse occurs when the moon is at a close enough point to the Earth and simultaneously crosses the path of the sun, causing it to cast a shadow over large parts of Earth’s surface, with the US getting the best view this time around.

All perfectly reasonable if you believe that the Earth, moon and sun are round.

However, some conspiracy theorists believe that the Earth is flat and is part of a big international governmental cover up.

If the Earth is flat, then it would not orbit the sun and the moon would not orbit our planet, both would just appear in our skies, essentially orbiting us.

So how do ‘Flat Earthers’, as they are known, explain the impending solar eclipse?

The conspiracy theorists have taken to Reddit to detail how they believe the natural phenomenon occurs.

Some believe the sun and the moon are simply holograms projected in the sky, to convince the masses that we are part of the universe which we are led to believe we are in.

Sometimes, these holograms need updates, flat earthers say.

A person by the username Hoeskioeh wrote on Reddit: “Maintenance downtime of the sun/moon hologram, new firmware upgrade.”

Another explanation is that the moon is actually much larger than the sun – in reality the sun’s diameter is 400 times larger than the moon’s – and it crosses in front of it to turn the day black.

Reddit user Anschauung wrote: “The sun is very small and much closer to Earth than ‘roundies’ claim it to be.

“It's only a few hundred meters wide and about five miles above our disc.

“The moon is much, much larger and a tiny little bit closer. When the enormous moon passes just beneath the tiny sun it completely obscures its light.”

The real "conspiracy" has been catapulted by the "secret society" PTB. TO HIDE GOD. And the TRUTH.

Try watching some of the vid links I've recently posted. Or don't. Unless you fear the Truth.

The Sun and Moon are both the same exact size. Close. Located WITHIN The Firmament....AND...revolve around the EARTH. As has been common knowledge until only 500 years ago when the PTB began phasing out Scriptural Truth because the printing press had just started distributing Bibles.

I'll take it from your usual belligerent tone about the topic that you believe NASA has been faking solar eclipses.

You knew what you were doing when you posted this story, obvious with ME in mind.

Now that doesn't bother me, Deckard, honestly. But by presuming my condemnation of your soul for your disbelief of truth...and claiming I have a "belligerent tone" -- isn't it YOU with the chip on his shoulder, stirring the sh*t?

I have studied and examined this entire subject of our physical realm for months now. It has been the equivalent of attending months of class and lectures.

You on the otherhand have watched and studied...HOW MUCH beyond a cursory look at Flat Earth and Lunar/Solar theories?

Get off the fence and educate yourself a bit more before challenging theories of which you know very little. And geez...PLEASE stop shilling for NASA and the liars who run this world.

Part one in a series on geocentrism, this video takes a wry look at the subject and how it stacks up against basic observations. This part looks at whether the geocentrist explanation of the seasons holds any merit, why Polaris doesn't move and how basic observations of the inner and outer planets hold up to the ideas of the geocentrist. A simple introduction is given to relevant concepts, providing topic pointers for the viewer who wants to find out more for themselves.

In this supplement to the Testing Geocentrism series, the claims that the distance to the Sun isn't known and can't be known are pitched against the reality of being able to know how far away it is and how big it is from just a few simple measurements.

Tsk, tsk, Counselor...You needed 11 YouTube videos to refute "Flat Earth"?? That seems a bit like over-kill for a supposed "absurd theory."

Btw, for every YouTube video supporting Flat Earth theory, there are about 100 ANTI-"Flat Earth" videos. For the logical, critical thinker, that kind of panicky censorship and rigging of YT algorithms tells us Truth of all kinds present a clear and present danger to the lies of the PTB.

As to the videos you've linked to...I'd know that strident snark and obnoxiousness anywhere by the author of these video; It's author is Pat Condell who is preaching to the choir. The disrespectful tone and use of cartoons don't help his case either. He is actually quite good at taking apart both Islam and addressing EU tyranny...

The main problem here is in letting *him* do your thinking for you AND making bogus cases. That's unusual intellectual laziness on your part; You're usually very thorough.

Unfortunately, your countless hours spent in citing definitive case law and usual outstanding attention to detail are NOT applying with respect to NASA, Flat Earth Theory, and *presumed* "Settled Science." How much time have you spent examining the spectrum of related issues?

FYI, Pat Condell has a dog in the Flat Earth fight: He is a rabid and militant ATHEIST. That also means his "religion" in THIS physical world is "Scientism."

Condell is also especially ignorant and intellectually lazy in this case, relying on established institutional lies as "Settled Science" (The same "Settled Science claims "Evolution" and "Climate Change" while isolating specific claims by specific individuals and Alinsky-ing them. Not 3 seconds into every one of his videos was he hoping to dazzle his cultists with ridicule and fallacies. He uses:

Ad Hominem
Straw Men
Appeal to Ignorance
False Dilemmas
Hasty Generalizations
Red Herrings
Causal Fallacies

As antidotes to the usual cultist indoctrination we have ALL been subject to since childhood, I have been sharing posting videos that help explain theories, observational science, and Biblical support of Flat Earth, NASA/"Outer Space" hoaxing, and man's inability to access "space" beyond low orbit.

In order to actually "debate" this issue, one must first acquaint themselves with the cases for evidence and theories being made. As far as I can see, no one here at this forum has done so other than for very cursory examinations from one respectful poster.

Counselor, if I had to choose just one video for you to watch in a court room along with a jury, it would be this. If you watch it in its entirety I'd be happy to engage in some polite dialogue.

No, I did not need any Youtube videos to refute the absurdity of Flattards and Flatlandia. I was just providing some laughs for the people who are not Flattards.

Unfortunately, Pat Condell sounds nothing at all like CoolHardLogic. You could at least try to produce someone who remotely sounds as if he comes from the same general area of England. Perhaps all the flattards in flatlandia are tone deaf.

I've been prosecuting the World's Shadow Govt (your apparent "Client") for advancing their respective case of NASA's Moon Landing" hoax and Heliocentric Model Hoax Science. Is posting 13 videos supposed to convince anyone of anything other than spamming a subject you're too lazy to investigate yourself? If so, just admit it.

(I would also add the 911 Hoax as well as the "Evolution" Hoax to the "War!" hoax to the Shadow Govt Hoax-List, but I'd be here all day.)

NASA's "Moon Landing(s) case is VERY weak, Counselor. Do you fear the evidence that *disproves* NASA's Moon Landing/"Deep Space" theater? Have you examined the actual *scientific* evidence for the actual capability of doing so? Video evidence? Logistics? NASA's own nay-saying personnel testimony?

Have you considered the obvious fakery orchestrated by NASA via photoshop, CGI, and its Stanley Kubrick connections?

As to supporting its Heliocentric Model, citing a new total of 13 You Tube clown-car videos to speak on your behalf...makes me realize that *you* are clearly unable to even step into the evidence room.

(Has anyone ever entered a courtroom and declared, "Your Honor, Ignorance is bliss; I'd rather not examine the evidence because I won't believe it."?)

To get a flavor of some of the debate if interested, please refer to some of Pinguinite's and my exchanges on the Flat Earth subject. He didn't and doesn't concur with my position, but he at least considered took a peak here and there at *some* of the evidence.

By the way, Counselor -- what's YOUR opinion and rationale for the international cooperation and TOTAL restriction of space south AND exploration ANYTHING south of the 60th parallel? (Other than "scientific/military personnel") And with it, ANY access to the supposed 5,000,000 (MILLION) square miles of the continent of Antarctica SINCE 1959? How does one *know* what exists in 5,000,000 sq mi...IF no one is allowed access it? (IOW, is it YOUR contention that we merely just believe the Govt's word, "NOTHING TO SEE HERE. MOVE ALONG."?)

And, in true yuktard fashion, you allude to your "research" but present none; nor do you present any methodology. You present mere bullshit and try to bait your marks into wasting their time trying to argue that the Earth is a globe, not a giant sky pizza, after which you can laugh at their efforts knowing that you have successfully trolled them into playing your yucktard game, just for yucks.

I do. You attempt to troll the board, and I dismiss your yuktard attempt with utter disdain and refuse to play your childish game.

As you seem to have forgotten all about your Pat Condell disaster, I have decided to offer you much needed assistance. To help you "research" English accents, here is Joe, the Car Cleaning Guru. His accent is more like CoolHardLogic than Pat Condell, and he shows you how to put a fine shine on a silver car.

Watch the complete video three times and report back on how it inspired and improved your car shining efforts.

I admit it. I am guilty as charged. I espouse the dirty troof and even the observation that the entire world navigates with roundie-based maps, and they all seem to magically get where they are going to; whereas the best flattard cartographers in Flattardia have yet to produce a map that one can use to get from point A to point B. Why roundie-based maps work on a giant sky pizza is a flat out mystery.

Yukkie troll Liberator knew Pat Condell was an atheist with an English accent, although it does not appear Condell has made any utterances about the Flattards of Flattardia. He was establishing his boner foodies as a subject matter "expert" who immediately recognized CoolHardLogic. Using his scientific method, he applied his known "fact" that all English accents are alike, and he merely bullshitted Pat Condell into the conversation. In the spirit of things, I have added Joe, the Car Cleaning Guru.

Some of the Flat Earth videos exhibit very good production quality. It seems many are deceived into believing that the effort put into making the video means that the person or persons who made it believe the crap that is on it. It's a business. They sell a fairy tale, similar to a politician who sells a promise of "free" health care for all, or "free" college for all.

Liberator is not a punchline. People taking him seriously are the punchline. To believe the Flat Earth fairy tale, one needs to be a true fuckwit, incapable of discerning the world around him. Liberator appears to lack the industrial strength stupidity to be a true Flattard. He is, rather, an industrial strength yukkie troll trying to lure people into believing his schtick, and wasting their time to accomplish nothing more than satisfying a roundie troll, disguised as a Flattard, who outsmarts them into believing they are engaged in a real debate about Flat Earth theory. The troll gets attention at the expense of those who volunteer to entertain him.

Professor Dave is widely recognized as THE "Go-To" disinfo shill of Flat Earth Theory BY the Ignorant FOR the Ignorant. His "prosecution" techniques are as can be expected from his ilk: Regurgitation of the SAME "evidence" or "science" we've ALL been groomed to embrace since childhood; and his specialty: Red herrings, strawmen, and ad hominim.

In other words, sadly, you are "stealing" *Dave's* "homework" in order to prosecute YOUR "argument," doing YOUR "research", and doing YOUR dirty work for you; Most of which avoid answering hard questions, promote fallacious "scientific" dogma, and reinforce indoctrination of assumptions at best. At this point you're obvious too lazy (or arrogant) to consider conducting your OWN investigation into ANY Truth whatsoever.

Fwiw, I'd given you a pertinent link to Flat Earth investigation and observation which you've not even acknowledged. Insisting on displays of willful ignorance and stomping your feet is NOT an argument. If it's *your* decision to remain intellectual stagnant and incurious about our world and real "TRUTH!", then so be it. The rest of us are moving forward, opening our eyes to the avalanche of new knowledge and truth, and unmasking of lies being revealed to us exponentially these last days.

The Ruling Class Elites fear the jig is up on their theater and agenda...AND their secret MO: Catapulting lies about man's beginning, purpose, history, and our Creator and Creation. To accomplish that they've hidden and restricted access to REAL knowledge and truth. UNTIL NOW.

As to your lame 8-year old (*yawn*) resuscitation of "Yukon" from your glory days (and even more lame attempt to make me the subject to your new "prosecution" and "forensic investigation") -- thanks for the chuckle.

I presented you with a video of Joe, the Car Cleaning Guru to assist in avoiding another disaster for your pseudo-profound bullshit, such as where you identified CoolHardLogic to be Pat Condell. You seem to be unable to even acknowledge that your pseudo-profound bullshit was another of your classic fuckups.

As you have revived the trolling tradition of yukon, it seemed only right to give appropriate credit.

And yet again, you failed to present any of your pseudo-profound bullshit "research."

(FAIL in your *second* recent lame attempt to resuscitate your past Yukonian moment of glory.)

You've gone from respected forum rep, researcher and truth-seeker to...a desperate cartoon, guarding and gate-keeping the Lies of PTB Institutions (which should give 'Too Shillervative' a YUGE thrill up his leg.)

Your hero "Prof Dave" got called out. But because he did, he cowardly censored/blocked the response to him and with it all the kiddies at his liberal university from seeing the carnage. Typical liberal behavior.

Ignorance of a subject is no sin. We're all guilty of that. Letting pride get in the way of learning from others and dismissing new knowledge as "stupid" IS a sin.