LF: Thousands marvel as total eclipse darkens Chile, Argentina, Flat-Earthers Call it FAKE

Title: Thousands marvel as total eclipse darkens Chile, Argentina, Flat-Earthers Call it FAKE - "The sun hologram needs updating’"
Source: Associated Press
URL Source: https://www.apnews.com/0eb6678b88944c48a925fbe20cef75c7
Published: Jul 3, 2019
Author: AP
Post Date: 2019-07-03 07:51:20 by Deckard
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Views: 6684
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The moon blocks the sun during a total solar eclipse in La Higuera, Chile, Tuesday, July 2, 2019. Northern Chile is known for clear skies and some of the largest, most powerful telescopes on Earth are being built in the area, turning the South American country into a global astronomy hub. (AP Photo/Esteban Felix)

LA SERENA, Chile (AP) — Tens of thousands of tourists and locals gaped skyward Tuesday as a total eclipse of the sun darkened the heavens over Chile and Argentina.

Tourists from around the world gathered to witness the cosmic spectacle, which began in the morning as the moon crossed in front of the sun and cast a shadow that passed over a tiny uninhabited atoll in the South Pacific and headed to South America. Chile and Argentina were the only inhabited places where the total eclipse could be seen.

The eclipse made its first landfall in Chile at 3:22 p.m. (1922 GMT) in La Serena, a city of some 200,000 people where the arrival of more than 300,000 visitors forced the local water company to increase output and service gas stations to store extra fuel. Police and health services were also reinforced.

“Oh! Oh! Oh!” thousands of spectators shouted as they jumped and danced without taking their eyes off the sky. After a brief moment of silence, the yelling returned as the sun’s rays began reaching Earth again.

‘The sun hologram needs updating’ THIS is how flat earthers explain the solar eclipse

A total solar eclipse occurs when the moon is at a close enough point to the Earth and simultaneously crosses the path of the sun, causing it to cast a shadow over large parts of Earth’s surface, with the US getting the best view this time around.

All perfectly reasonable if you believe that the Earth, moon and sun are round.

However, some conspiracy theorists believe that the Earth is flat and is part of a big international governmental cover up.

If the Earth is flat, then it would not orbit the sun and the moon would not orbit our planet, both would just appear in our skies, essentially orbiting us.

So how do ‘Flat Earthers’, as they are known, explain the impending solar eclipse?

The conspiracy theorists have taken to Reddit to detail how they believe the natural phenomenon occurs.

Some believe the sun and the moon are simply holograms projected in the sky, to convince the masses that we are part of the universe which we are led to believe we are in.

Sometimes, these holograms need updates, flat earthers say.

A person by the username Hoeskioeh wrote on Reddit: “Maintenance downtime of the sun/moon hologram, new firmware upgrade.”

Another explanation is that the moon is actually much larger than the sun – in reality the sun’s diameter is 400 times larger than the moon’s – and it crosses in front of it to turn the day black.

Reddit user Anschauung wrote: “The sun is very small and much closer to Earth than ‘roundies’ claim it to be.

“It's only a few hundred meters wide and about five miles above our disc.

“The moon is much, much larger and a tiny little bit closer. When the enormous moon passes just beneath the tiny sun it completely obscures its light.”

Good grief. Desperate and dumb claim. BY DESPERATE PEOPLE WHO NEED TO KEEP ON CATAPULTING NASA'S LIES.

Yeah, let's find a few people (aka "Flat Earthers") and broad brush them ALL with idiocy.

The real "conspiracy" has been catapulted by the "secret society" PTB. TO HIDE GOD. And the TRUTH.

Try watching some of the vid links I've recently posted. Or don't. Unless you fear the Truth.

The Sun and Moon are both the same exact size. Close. Located WITHIN The Firmament....AND...revolve around the EARTH. As has been common knowledge until only 500 years ago when the PTB began phasing out Scriptural Truth because the printing press had just started distributing Bibles.

I'll take it from your usual belligerent tone about the topic that you believe NASA has been faking solar eclipses.

You knew what you were doing when you posted this story, obvious with ME in mind.

Now that doesn't bother me, Deckard, honestly. But by presuming my condemnation of your soul for your disbelief of truth...and claiming I have a "belligerent tone" -- isn't it YOU with the chip on his shoulder, stirring the sh*t?

I have studied and examined this entire subject of our physical realm for months now. It has been the equivalent of attending months of class and lectures.

You on the otherhand have watched and studied...HOW MUCH beyond a cursory look at Flat Earth and Lunar/Solar theories?

Get off the fence and educate yourself a bit more before challenging theories of which you know very little. And geez...PLEASE stop shilling for NASA and the liars who run this world.

Part one in a series taking a wry look at the idiotic belief that the Earth is flat, and how that stacks up against reality. This part takes a look at some fundamental geometric problems with flattards' favourite "map", an Azimuthal Equidistant Projection.

Part two in a series taking a wry look at the idiotic belief that the Earth is flat, and how that stacks up against reality. This part looks skyward as we consider basic observations of the stars, and find out where the Sun would be if it were a flying spotlight.

CORRECTION: At 5:56 the slide states the equinoxes are in June and December. This should of course say March and September! D'oh!

Part three in a series taking a wry look at the idiotic belief that the Earth is flat, and how that stacks up against reality. This part continues our investigation of the Flattard Flying Spotlight, and examines the implications of the Solstices for the inhabitants of Flattardia.

Part four in a series taking a wry look at the idiotic belief that the Earth is flat, and how that stacks up against reality. In this part we find out what other failures are on offer when you think Earth is lit by a magic, flying spotlight with a shape-shifting lampshade.

Part five in a series taking a wry look at the idiotic belief that the Earth is flat, and how that stacks up against reality. In this part we find out whether a magic, flying spotlight with a shape-shifting lampshade can rise and set over a giant space biscuit and whether "perspective" helps or hinders flattards.

Some fun while we wait for Testing Flattards Part 5... It's time for more Questions for Flattards!

It's time for the most pertinent set of Questions for Flattards! We'll be asking, "what have the flattards ever done for us?" and unlike the Romans, we will be left wanting.

Part one in a series on geocentrism, this video takes a wry look at the subject and how it stacks up against basic observations. This part looks at whether the geocentrist explanation of the seasons holds any merit, why Polaris doesn't move and how basic observations of the inner and outer planets hold up to the ideas of the geocentrist. A simple introduction is given to relevant concepts, providing topic pointers for the viewer who wants to find out more for themselves.

In this supplement to the Testing Geocentrism series, the claims that the distance to the Sun isn't known and can't be known are pitched against the reality of being able to know how far away it is and how big it is from just a few simple measurements.

Tsk, tsk, Counselor...You needed 11 YouTube videos to refute "Flat Earth"?? That seems a bit like over-kill for a supposed "absurd theory."

Btw, for every YouTube video supporting Flat Earth theory, there are about 100 ANTI-"Flat Earth" videos. For the logical, critical thinker, that kind of panicky censorship and rigging of YT algorithms tells us Truth of all kinds present a clear and present danger to the lies of the PTB.

As to the videos you've linked to...I'd know that strident snark and obnoxiousness anywhere by the author of these video; It's author is Pat Condell who is preaching to the choir. The disrespectful tone and use of cartoons don't help his case either. He is actually quite good at taking apart both Islam and addressing EU tyranny...

The main problem here is in letting *him* do your thinking for you AND making bogus cases. That's unusual intellectual laziness on your part; You're usually very thorough.

Unfortunately, your countless hours spent in citing definitive case law and usual outstanding attention to detail are NOT applying with respect to NASA, Flat Earth Theory, and *presumed* "Settled Science." How much time have you spent examining the spectrum of related issues?

FYI, Pat Condell has a dog in the Flat Earth fight: He is a rabid and militant ATHEIST. That also means his "religion" in THIS physical world is "Scientism."

Condell is also especially ignorant and intellectually lazy in this case, relying on established institutional lies as "Settled Science" (The same "Settled Science claims "Evolution" and "Climate Change" while isolating specific claims by specific individuals and Alinsky-ing them. Not 3 seconds into every one of his videos was he hoping to dazzle his cultists with ridicule and fallacies. He uses:

Ad Hominem
Straw Men
Appeal to Ignorance
False Dilemmas
Hasty Generalizations
Red Herrings
Causal Fallacies

As antidotes to the usual cultist indoctrination we have ALL been subject to since childhood, I have been sharing posting videos that help explain theories, observational science, and Biblical support of Flat Earth, NASA/"Outer Space" hoaxing, and man's inability to access "space" beyond low orbit.

In order to actually "debate" this issue, one must first acquaint themselves with the cases for evidence and theories being made. As far as I can see, no one here at this forum has done so other than for very cursory examinations from one respectful poster.

Counselor, if I had to choose just one video for you to watch in a court room along with a jury, it would be this. If you watch it in its entirety I'd be happy to engage in some polite dialogue.

A K A, you are totally ignorant on this subject. That makes you...kind of retarded in a non-clinical way. Your degree of indoctrination and mindless obedience at the altar of pagan/secular Scientism on this matter embarrassing.

Thanks for your concern. It's called, OPENING YOUR EYES. (I assume your Baboon Brain transplant is not going well. Maybe some potassium will help. Have a banana. Good luck with that.)

No, I did not need any Youtube videos to refute the absurdity of Flattards and Flatlandia. I was just providing some laughs for the people who are not Flattards.

Unfortunately, Pat Condell sounds nothing at all like CoolHardLogic. You could at least try to produce someone who remotely sounds as if he comes from the same general area of England. Perhaps all the flattards in flatlandia are tone deaf.

I've been prosecuting the World's Shadow Govt (your apparent "Client") for advancing their respective case of NASA's Moon Landing" hoax and Heliocentric Model Hoax Science. Is posting 13 videos supposed to convince anyone of anything other than spamming a subject you're too lazy to investigate yourself? If so, just admit it.

(I would also add the 911 Hoax as well as the "Evolution" Hoax to the "War!" hoax to the Shadow Govt Hoax-List, but I'd be here all day.)

NASA's "Moon Landing(s) case is VERY weak, Counselor. Do you fear the evidence that *disproves* NASA's Moon Landing/"Deep Space" theater? Have you examined the actual *scientific* evidence for the actual capability of doing so? Video evidence? Logistics? NASA's own nay-saying personnel testimony?

Have you considered the obvious fakery orchestrated by NASA via photoshop, CGI, and its Stanley Kubrick connections?

As to supporting its Heliocentric Model, citing a new total of 13 You Tube clown-car videos to speak on your behalf...makes me realize that *you* are clearly unable to even step into the evidence room.

(Has anyone ever entered a courtroom and declared, "Your Honor, Ignorance is bliss; I'd rather not examine the evidence because I won't believe it."?)

To get a flavor of some of the debate if interested, please refer to some of Pinguinite's and my exchanges on the Flat Earth subject. He didn't and doesn't concur with my position, but he at least considered took a peak here and there at *some* of the evidence.

By the way, Counselor -- what's YOUR opinion and rationale for the international cooperation and TOTAL restriction of space south AND exploration ANYTHING south of the 60th parallel? (Other than "scientific/military personnel") And with it, ANY access to the supposed 5,000,000 (MILLION) square miles of the continent of Antarctica SINCE 1959? How does one *know* what exists in 5,000,000 sq mi...IF no one is allowed access it? (IOW, is it YOUR contention that we merely just believe the Govt's word, "NOTHING TO SEE HERE. MOVE ALONG."?)

Facts are oppressive tools of the roundist elite, trying to poison us all with their fancy-schmancy chemtrails.

I'm not sure how Pat Condell got dragged into this. But I suspect he's another dirty rounder too.

It's all part of the globalist, round supremacy conspiracy, part of a nasty plot against decent flat-earthers by the Queen of England and George Soros and the Rothschilds. Anyway, that's my position and I demand that you debate all the facts with me (even though I refuse to recognize or comprehend any established science, astronomy, physics, mathematics as a standard of proof). 'Cause I got nothing better to do.

I've begun to think that YouBoob itself started and promoted the Flat Earthers, just to make it easier to make fun of Christian fundamentalists as all being a bunch of medieval nutjobs. And to elevate the hold of modern science via all their flat earth debunking channels which do more to argue forcefully for a round Earth and for evolution and geology and other science than could otherwise ever be possible if they weren't part of the "War Against Flat Earth". YouBoob forwards their agenda, gives Christians another black eye, and generate profitable content, all while getting to pat themselves on the back for it.

So I think there is likely a conspiracy here. By YouBoob. And Liberator is just the punchline in their lucrative little scheme.

Clearly, the Bible does not teach that the earth is flat. It was Bible skeptics who introduced this false claim in the 19th century. It is a shame that professed Bible-believers recently have embraced this false argument and have gone on to promote the flat earth. When combined with its many scientific and observational problems, the flat-earth theory is disproven.

Many here know too well the historical influence and significance of Soros and the Rothchilds upon the world. (And don't discount the influence of your own little club, "brother" -- the Masons.)

As to your mention of the Queen of England (London = City-State World Capital of Finance), you also forgot the Pope (Vatican = City-State Capital of World Religion, and also Washington DC (City-State Capital of the World's Military.) You're welcome.

Either you are fully ignorant of this world and obvious -- nevermind understanding esoteric knowledge (and embarrassed by it)...OR...you do indeed know the truth -- and are a Gate-Keeper. (Which is why it's been noted with some degree of amusement that your "job" as *you* see it has always been to derail threads that expose truth and deceptions. Ergo, your "YouBoob" reference.)

A K A I don't have time right now to refute (for the 20th time) this ISS bullsh*t with its PROVEN CGI fakery, harnesses, fish-eye lens, and sloppily orchestrated theater.

They are in LOW earth orbit. YES, that is earth. NO, there is NO actual "curvature"; Once again, they simply use a lens that lends the perspective of curvature. Man...why is this simple trick so hard to figure out?

And, in true yuktard fashion, you allude to your "research" but present none; nor do you present any methodology. You present mere bullshit and try to bait your marks into wasting their time trying to argue that the Earth is a globe, not a giant sky pizza, after which you can laugh at their efforts knowing that you have successfully trolled them into playing your yucktard game, just for yucks.

I do. You attempt to troll the board, and I dismiss your yuktard attempt with utter disdain and refuse to play your childish game.

As you seem to have forgotten all about your Pat Condell disaster, I have decided to offer you much needed assistance. To help you "research" English accents, here is Joe, the Car Cleaning Guru. His accent is more like CoolHardLogic than Pat Condell, and he shows you how to put a fine shine on a silver car.

Watch the complete video three times and report back on how it inspired and improved your car shining efforts.

I admit it. I am guilty as charged. I espouse the dirty troof and even the observation that the entire world navigates with roundie-based maps, and they all seem to magically get where they are going to; whereas the best flattard cartographers in Flattardia have yet to produce a map that one can use to get from point A to point B. Why roundie-based maps work on a giant sky pizza is a flat out mystery.

Yukkie troll Liberator knew Pat Condell was an atheist with an English accent, although it does not appear Condell has made any utterances about the Flattards of Flattardia. He was establishing his boner foodies as a subject matter "expert" who immediately recognized CoolHardLogic. Using his scientific method, he applied his known "fact" that all English accents are alike, and he merely bullshitted Pat Condell into the conversation. In the spirit of things, I have added Joe, the Car Cleaning Guru.

Some of the Flat Earth videos exhibit very good production quality. It seems many are deceived into believing that the effort put into making the video means that the person or persons who made it believe the crap that is on it. It's a business. They sell a fairy tale, similar to a politician who sells a promise of "free" health care for all, or "free" college for all.

Liberator is not a punchline. People taking him seriously are the punchline. To believe the Flat Earth fairy tale, one needs to be a true fuckwit, incapable of discerning the world around him. Liberator appears to lack the industrial strength stupidity to be a true Flattard. He is, rather, an industrial strength yukkie troll trying to lure people into believing his schtick, and wasting their time to accomplish nothing more than satisfying a roundie troll, disguised as a Flattard, who outsmarts them into believing they are engaged in a real debate about Flat Earth theory. The troll gets attention at the expense of those who volunteer to entertain him.

I've begun to think that it's all a scam. The most successful Flattards make at most a few thousand a month. Debunkers have checked and reported on their earnings via Patreon and YouBoob ads and this is pretty consistent.

The debunkers make a lot more than the Flattards. Which makes me think that the debunkers are the main funders of the Flattards, donating just enough to them to keep them posting new crap that they can then debunk.

The whole "controversy" may be nothing more than some clever debunker types tossing a few bucks a month at some Flattards to keep the grift rolling in. Some of the Flattards are just may be just playing a part, cashing in a bit by playing the Flattard for money but I think some of them are deluded True Believers.

Professor Dave is widely recognized as THE "Go-To" disinfo shill of Flat Earth Theory BY the Ignorant FOR the Ignorant. His "prosecution" techniques are as can be expected from his ilk: Regurgitation of the SAME "evidence" or "science" we've ALL been groomed to embrace since childhood; and his specialty: Red herrings, strawmen, and ad hominim.

In other words, sadly, you are "stealing" *Dave's* "homework" in order to prosecute YOUR "argument," doing YOUR "research", and doing YOUR dirty work for you; Most of which avoid answering hard questions, promote fallacious "scientific" dogma, and reinforce indoctrination of assumptions at best. At this point you're obvious too lazy (or arrogant) to consider conducting your OWN investigation into ANY Truth whatsoever.

Fwiw, I'd given you a pertinent link to Flat Earth investigation and observation which you've not even acknowledged. Insisting on displays of willful ignorance and stomping your feet is NOT an argument. If it's *your* decision to remain intellectual stagnant and incurious about our world and real "TRUTH!", then so be it. The rest of us are moving forward, opening our eyes to the avalanche of new knowledge and truth, and unmasking of lies being revealed to us exponentially these last days.

The Ruling Class Elites fear the jig is up on their theater and agenda...AND their secret MO: Catapulting lies about man's beginning, purpose, history, and our Creator and Creation. To accomplish that they've hidden and restricted access to REAL knowledge and truth. UNTIL NOW.

As to your lame 8-year old (*yawn*) resuscitation of "Yukon" from your glory days (and even more lame attempt to make me the subject to your new "prosecution" and "forensic investigation") -- thanks for the chuckle.

There there -- things will turn out fine. I'm sure your masters will find a way to shut down ALL "Conspiracy Theory" channels and Truth and imprison your tormentors soon enough.

It bears similarities to the birthers of 2008 and onward. For some shills, it was a cottage industry. For a malleable group, it was darn near a religion, and the mindless followers helped elect Obama.

The birther scorecard indicates 226 separate legal actions and just as many abject failures. It seemed every week there were one or more new ones that were trumpeted as the one that was going to bring down Obama. One wouuld think that over 200 futile legal efforts with the success of even surviving pretrial motions to dismiss would persuade the gullible that they had been conned. The nitwit birther infection still carries on at FR. Eleven years later, mention of Gabbard or Harris is followed by a comment of not eligible, not an NBC, and pseudo-profound bullshit in the manner of Flat Earth pseudo-profound bullshit.

No bullshit, the scientific term is "pseudo-profound bullshit," and there is measurement on the "bullshit receptivity scale." Yes, the time has come for scientists to address the persistent replacement of reason with pseudo-profound bullshit.

I presented you with a video of Joe, the Car Cleaning Guru to assist in avoiding another disaster for your pseudo-profound bullshit, such as where you identified CoolHardLogic to be Pat Condell. You seem to be unable to even acknowledge that your pseudo-profound bullshit was another of your classic fuckups.

As you have revived the trolling tradition of yukon, it seemed only right to give appropriate credit.

And yet again, you failed to present any of your pseudo-profound bullshit "research."

You talk about slowing your pseudo-profound bullshit to a crawl like its a bad thing.

(FAIL in your *second* recent lame attempt to resuscitate your past Yukonian moment of glory.)

You've gone from respected forum rep, researcher and truth-seeker to...a desperate cartoon, guarding and gate-keeping the Lies of PTB Institutions (which should give 'Too Shillervative' a YUGE thrill up his leg.)

You have yet to produce a scintilla of your claimed "research". Why, it is almost as if it does not exist.

You presented your pseudo-profound bullshit. It is your responsibility to back it up. Others do not have the responsibility to take homework assignments to study your pseudo-profound bullshit.

Of course, I presented a scientific paper on pseudo-profound bullshit and bullshit receptivity.

The paper, funded by the Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council of Canada. The paper was written by Gordon Pennycock, James Allen Cheyne, Nathaniel Barr, Derek J. Koehler, and Jonathan A. Fugelsang of the University of Waterloo and Sheridan College in Canada. It appeared in a publication under the auspices of Jonathan Baron at the University of Pennsylvania.

Jonathan Baron
Professor of Psychology, School of Arts and Sciences, University of Pennsylvania

Are they still obsessing over everything Orly Taitz, the blonde bombshell aging Russian lawyer/dentist/realtor? When she became the most prominent Birther (with her disbarred sidekick), I knew it was all a scam. Last I recall, she got hit with a $20K fine for filing frivolous lawsuits or some such.

I closed a ton of them, trying to get them under control, then added up all the tabs in my seven Firefox windows.

And I sit around, feeling a little unhappy, because my 4.2GHz i7 with 40GB RAM sometimes isn't quite as snappy on browser refreshes as I'd like.

Your hero "Prof Dave" got called out. But because he did, he cowardly censored/blocked the response to him and with it all the kiddies at his liberal university from seeing the carnage. Typical liberal behavior.

Ignorance of a subject is no sin. We're all guilty of that. Letting pride get in the way of learning from others and dismissing new knowledge as "stupid" IS a sin.

THIS is how and with whom you base your entire case of "discrediting" the theory of Flat Earth Science?? Is this some kind of joke??

And pray tell -- just what would the subject of a pseudo-"Science" (referred to as 'Psychology' racket) have to do with observational and practical science? Or the physical realm of this world? OR, any "Truth" for that matter?

Most people are well aware that psychologists, psychiatrists, and sociologists are the biggest head-cased on the planet. I personally know two of them very well -- batsh*t crazy.

The entire mission in life for these people is projection of their own moral relativity and life-shortcomings, and proving *other* people are crazier than they are. One main reason: Most people in the "Psycho" business are humanists and atheists who dismiss the notion of a subservience to God and a Biblical world view -- which explains a lot, including their mental instability as a group.

For citing the opinions of this group of psychologists (along with goofball liberal doctrinaire "Prof Dave") to support a position for which it appears you are totally ignorant, I have no other choice than to grade your efforts as an F-

Now if you're willing to examine some Flat Earth evidence and theory (We are ALL taught the same "Globe Earth" theory), you can at least justify and dispute any claims or assertions.

IF you refuse to do so you'll continue having ZERO grounds for ANY intellectually honest position...or to be taken seriously about ANY subject. If your position is that you have no interest in the Flat Earth subject, just say so. I respect people who are honest -- even if they disagree with my position. In that case, your admission of dis-interest would at least enable some degree of integrity.