Title: Should we Push our Values on the Middle East ? (US Gummint poised to re-cycle this bogus premise in potential war with Iran) Source:
youtube URL Source:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWAnC3MeOAQ Published:May 14, 2019 Author:Owen Benjamin (Highlights) Post Date:2019-05-17 12:39:59 by Liberator Keywords:Values, Conservatism, Anti-Globalism Views:725 Comments:8
Owen Benjamin is a conservative commentator who discusses/critiques the culture from a "Regular Guy"/Common Sense perspective.
The discussion within government circles and sources is whether to "spread Democracy" and "our values" on Iran by military means.
Benjamin discusses the motivation, morality and hypocrisy of the same US Government that since Iraq War II has been assuring Americans they and our military have indeed been "spreading democracy" (while corrupting and destroying America's own democracy and culture.)
Poster Comment:
This is an especially good brief riff/convo that poses some good points.
The USA is no longer "good." OR benevolent. Moreover, haven't we done enough damage to the Middle East? (and ourselves?)
WHO are WE to dictate and export ANY of our corrupt, filthy pro-homo, man-hating, self-loathing globalist values and culture? Why trust a Globalist-hijacked US Gummint and its MSM hacks on anything?
Folks...If you haven't checked out Owen Benjamin and his podcast or shorts like this (Clips/Highlights), do so. The man speaks much truth on a myriad of subjects that should resonate with you. He's a Straight-shooter with no pretense.
His background is interesting in that he once made a living in Hollywood as a comic, was in the MTV series, 'Punk'd', hung out with many so-called stars and celebs. That is UNTIL he openly rejected their lack of any ethics, morals, abhorrent lifestyle and phoniness.
These days he is (happily) relegated to riffing on the culture and subjects of the day while reading real-time comments and reacting on his farm. It should be noted that Owen Benjamin is a strong family man. He presents what is a unique, refreshing format. His shorts and clips are best (between 8-15 minutes long.)
Benjamin and his truth-telling is deemed so dangerous that he has been tossed off of Twitter and FB, and been de-monitized by You Tube and PayPal.
Iran and Syria are the last two enemies standing. Iran was always going to be the the last domino.
Consider where the world stood on September 10, 2001.
The USSR was gone, and Russia was quiescent and weak. China h the the last domino.
Consider where the world stood on September 10, 2001.
The USSR was gone, and Russia was quiescent and weak. China had not started building artificial islands yet. The dot.com bubble had burst, creating some economic turbulence, and the country was still sour from the Supreme-Court-decided election of 2000, but the US was the world's undisputed hyperpower.
The only visible point of active international contention was Ira decided election of 2000, but the US was the world's undisputed hyperpower.
The only visible point of active international contention was Iraq, where Saddam Hussein still had a large army in the field, was still killing Marsh Arabs, and was still shooting at US aircraft.
Under the veneer Saddam Hussein still had a large army in the field, was still killing Marsh Arabs, and was still shooting at US aircraft.
Under the veneer of peace, Islamic terrorism was ramped up to a fever pitch. Al Qaeda, fund Arabs, and was still shooting at US aircraft.
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The only visible point of active international contention was Iraq, where Sa Saddam Hussein still had a large army in the field, was still killing Marsh Ar Arabs, and was still shooting at US aircraft.
Under the veneer of peace, Islamic terrorism was ramped up to a fever pitch. Al Qaeda, funded by members of the Saudi royal family and supported by various Gulf state oil sheikdoms. Abu Nidal's group, killers of Klinghofer, were living well in Baghdad, guests of the state. The terrorists who brought down the airliner at Lockerbie and who had attacked the Berlin nightclub full of American troops were all guests of Moammar Ghadafi. Warlords were terrorizing people people in Somalia, and Muslim fanatics were terrorizing Christians in Darfur. Despit Despite American hegemony, the Islami people people in Somalia, and Muslim fanatics were terrorizing Christians in Darfur. Despit Despite American hegemony, the Islamists were united in hatred of Israel, and the US the US was a prize target for radical Despit Despite American hegemony, the Islamists were united in hatred of Israel, and the US the US was a prize target for radicals.
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And America was asleep, oblivious, focused on tech and the market turmoil and inte internal politics. Then came the morning of 9/1l, when the world changed.
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American grand strategy, understood from the inside, was clear. I expressed it ou out loud on 9/11 as I walked home from World Trade covered in debris, and wrote ab about it shortly after. There was a ou out loud on 9/11 as I walked home from World Trade covered in debris, and wrote ab about it shortly after. There was an inexorable logic to what the US must do, an and given the degree of American sup ab about it shortly after. There was an inexorable logic to what the US must do, an and given the degree of American supremacy, it was the only logical thing for th the US TO do.
Walking home t an and given the degree of American supremacy, it was the only logical thing for th the US TO do.
Walking home that day, an African diplomat - tall, black, well-dressed, with a heavy accent - expressed to my ash-covered self "What has happened, it is te terrible! Terrible!" "Yes," I replied, and now the US is at war, and we will go go country by country, demanding that every one hand over their terrorists. An And we will invade and crush ev go go country by country, demanding that every one hand over their terrorists. An And we will invade and crush every one that doesn't. And we will take their le leaders, and we will HANG THEM!"
I talked this through with many people at the time. Everybody was shellshocked shellshocked, but I was certain that would be the strategy. I wrote it out in full and gave it to some folks a week or two later, once it was clear that the attacks had come from bases in Afghanistan. Intervening events over the years obscured it somewhat, but that strategy is exactly what we did.
What I wrote was this:
We are now at war with all Islamist terror organizations, and all states that s support them.
We will demand that Afghanistan hand over the terrorists who attacked us. If they don't, we will invade and conquer Afghanistan.
Saddam Hussein will be given one chance to make peace: if he refuses, we will invade Iraq, end his support for terrorism, and rebuild the country in our image, like we did Japan and Germany after World War II. Ghadafi will hand over his terrorists, or we will overthrow him. Support for terror will cease in the oil states, or we will overthrow them. Every Muslim state that supports terror will either cease - which will include ceasing terrorism against Israel - - or the United States will invade and conquer them. Syria will be difficult because - - or the United States will invade and conquer them. Syria will be difficult because of the Russian Naval base, but the Russians cannot stop it. Last to go will be Iran. It can be hoped that Iran will, on seeing the destruction of the rest of the Islamist world, decide not to keep up the terrorism. But if they do, then we will crush them once every other terrorist regime has been crushed.
I am not Nostradamus. My order of events was never clear, other than Afghanistan and Iraq first, and Iran last.
I was, however, very clearsighted. That is EXACTLY what the US has done. EVERY Gulf state with oil - except Iran - stopped funding terrorism and has made de facto peace with Israel. Yemen refused to stop supporting terror, and so we have given full support to Saudi Arabia to destroy Yemen, and that will continue until either the country is conquered, or it renounces terror.
The Sudan would not stop the terrorists from training there, so we fomented a civil war, tore the country in two, and conducted sufficient operations there that the new government no longer supports terror.
The Somali pirates suffered heavy casualties.
We overthrew Ghadafy.
Iraq was conquered and Saddam was hanged. The Shi'ite republic of Iraq is quiet, and sullen - they don't love America - but they don't support terror with that oil wealthy anymore either.
Syria remains, thanks to that Russian port, but we have shattered the country.
All that's left is Iran, and we are preparing for war there.
It is very simple: Iran will cease conducting terrorist operations against Israel (and everywhere else) and will cease developing nuclear weapons, or the United States will destroy the Iranian regime. We have done it, in succession, to 6 other Muslim countries, and compelled 6 more to cease funding terrorism. We cannot be defeated militarily, Russia is not willing to commit nuclear suicide, and the US is not going to back down. Iran will bend the knee, or Iran delenda est.
People can wring their hands and cry about it forever. The fact is that the United States is the hyperpower, we were attacked by Islamic terrorists, we declared war on Islamic terror and on every regime that supports it, and we have systematically destroyed or flipped 12 regimes that used to support terror. All have made peace with Israel and ceased supporting terror. Syria is on the anvil now, and Syria will be broken to our will. They have been more stubborn, because of Russian assistance. Therefore, the Golan Heights have been stripped from Syria and given to Israel forever, by the United States.
Iran is the final terror supporting Islamist nation. They have oil wealth and a large population. They were always the last on the list because they are the hardest nut to crack. It has always been hoped that they will back down rather than force a war. But they will cease the support for terror and give up on nuclear weapons - or make formal peace with Israel - or we will destroy their capacity to develop nuclear weapons.
Period.
Wring hands, mewl, puke, cry and scream all you like. This course was set in 2001. The US hasn't swerved from it. We're not going to. It was the right thing to do, and it still is. Islamic terrorism has no right to exist under the Pax Americana. It was tolerated when Israel was the target. But when the Muslims made America itself the target, they signed the death warrant of radical Islam. That form of Islam will no longer be permitted to be supported by any government on earth. It is a mortal enemy of an America at war. We HAVE overthrown or intimidated 12 Muslim countries into ceasing, and making peace with Israel. We are breaking Syria. And we will break Iran, unless they flip. The outcome is already decided: Iran will not possess a nuclear weapons program, Iran will cease to support international terrorism. Iran will make peace with Israel, and thereby end forever the Arab Israeli wars and all of the terrorism that has come with it.
The outcome was decided in September, 2001, at Pearl Harbor in NYC and the Pentagon. The only question now is whether lots of Iranians have to die to get there. Lots of Afghanis and Iraqis, Sudanese and Libyans and Egyptians and Yemenites and Somalis and Syrians have had to die, but Saudis and Kuwaitis, Qataris and Bahrainis, Emiratis and Saudis have avoided that, as have Tunisians and Moroccans and, after a brief internal fight, Algerians. There is a peaceful path to ending terrorism, and there is a warlike path. Iran will choose that. The outcome will be the same either way: Iran will never have nuclear weapons, and Iranian support for terrorism, particularly against Israel, will end.
12 other countries have tried to resist America. They have all lost. A 13th is in the toils, and will lose. Only Iran remains. Nothing on earth can save them, and nothing in heaven will.
#6. To: Vicomte13, *Neo-Lib Chickenhawk Wars* (#2)(Edited)
Iran & Syria aren't the enemy, it's Democrat & Republican globalist sellout crony capitalist banksters, FED ponzi scheme con artists, that are our greatest clear & present danger. The United States of America was destroyed by Abe Lincoln and his Log Cabin Republicans. We're all slaves now, to the D&R global crime syndicate.
Saudi-Arabia, Israel, FUKUS (France, UK, US), UAE, NATO etc... These are the ones running the show and screwing Joe & Jane Sixpack.
