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Title: Liberty & Tyranny by Mark Levin - A Book Review
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Published: Jan 24, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-01-24 10:22:12 by We The People
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Views: 34682
Comments: 72

I thought I'd get around to starting Levin's book today. Man, was I surprised to find fault in the very first paragraph. Actually, I wasn't surprised. IMO Levin is a neoconservative, so it's not really out of place for him to make the following statement:

Chapter One

On Liberty And Tyranny

There is simply no scientific or mathematical formula that defines conservatism. Moreover, there are competing voices today claiming the mantle of "true conservatism" - including neoconservatism (emphasis on a robust national security), paleo-conservatism (emphasis on preserving the culture), social conservatism (emphasis on faith and values), and libertarianism (emphasis on individualism), among others. Scores of scholars have written at length about what can be characterized as conservative thought. But my purpose is not to give them each exposition, as it cannot be fairly or adequately accomplished here, nor referee among them. Neither will I attempt to give birth to totally new theories.

LOL!

Good Lord, where do I start?

First of all, neoconservatives are not conservatives. Libertarians are not conservatives. Conservatives are conservatives and stating that a conservative can be any of these or any combination of these is ridiculous and only serves to water down the true meaning of a conservative.

For example, red is red and blue is blue. Add blue to red and you get purple. Add leftist positions to conservatism and you don't still have conservatism, you have neoconservatism, a moderate or in enough degrees, a liberal. Does Levin ascribe to the 'big tent' theory in which conservatives should allow all sorts of positions that traditionally are not conservative? Go along to get along? It would seem so.

Levin has a hard time defining conservatism because he doesn't understand it himself, or that would be my guess anyway. Not only does Levin start out by mischaracterizing conservatism, he also mischaracterizes neoconservatism, paleo-conservatism and libertarianism. Conservatives also believe in a strong national security which Levin attributes to neoconservatism, but conservatives don't believe in attacking countries preemptively who have not attacked us, nation building or policing the world.

A conservative is someone who wants to preserve, maintain and protect the Constitution as it was written, including the Bill of Rights, who wants to preserve, maintain and protect the form of government established by our founding fathers as outlined in our founding documents. A conservative wants to follow the advice given us by our founding fathers as to how our great country should work and conduct itself.

A conservative doesn't follow the Wilsonian, leftist position that we must project our strength and values around the world in order to remake the world in our image.

A conservative would follow the advice laid out by our first President, George Washington who said, "Observe good faith and justice toward all nations. Cultivate peace and harmony with all. Over grown military establishments are under any form of government inauspicious to liberty, and are to be regarded as particularly hostile to republican liberty."

It was Washington's belief that the United States must remain a neutral third party in order to survive.

Or Thomas Jefferson who stated, "Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations; entangling alliances with none." Conservatives should then be against our entangling alliances in the UN, Nato, the WTO and any other multi-national organizations. Those organizations have done nothing for us except to erode our sovereignty and condition Americans to accept these alliances.

These are the visions of our founding fathers about how we should conduct ourselves around the world and it is THAT, that a conservative wishes to preserve.

A conservative definitely wants to preserve the culture of America as Levin puts forth about paleo-conservatives, including our form of government. A conservative has definite libertarian leanings and wholly agrees with our founding fathers vision on rights and liberties as laid out in our Bill of Rights.

A conservative DOES NOT adhere to the neoconservatives vision of foreign policy.

I'm looking forward to what else I might read in this book.

Has anyone here read it?

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#6. To: We The People (#0)

Levin is not dumb.... he portrays himself as a constitutional lawyer. Plus as a lawyer he knows he can lie to achieve a goal and will be forgiven. The push is on for the US to try to take over the entire Middle East by a rabid, extremely tiny minority.

But even my naive Christian relatives are catching on to the con.

mininggold  posted on  2010-01-24   12:03:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: mininggold (#6)

"The push is on for the US to try to take over the entire Middle East by a rabid, extremely tiny minority."

BWAHAHAHAHA!! Whatta MAROOON!!

Sheeesh...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-01-25   7:34:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Mudboy Slim (#39)

BWAHAHAHAHA!! Whatta MAROOON!!

Sheeesh...MUD

So you are saying a majority wants us to take over the ME? Or that no one wants us to take over the ME...... which is certainly not true.

mininggold  posted on  2010-01-25   13:07:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: mininggold (#55)

I'm saying that just because some folks believe our "national interests" include exerting military force in the Mideast--the source of much of our imported oil--to protect it from being overrun by, first, the Soviet Union, and second, by Islamofascist warlords, that doesn't thereby undermine their claims to have been long-time conservatives. Adding a "NEO-" in front of the "Conservative" many of us have been fer a long, long time is certainly meant to be a perjorative term, wouldn't you agree? Just the same as if I called you a "FAUX"-Conservative...it's not meant to be descriptive or informative, it'd be becuz I was being derogatory.

I am a proud, long-time ReaganConservative and I supported the liberation of both Kuwait and Iraq. I respect that there are opinions that think we overstepped our bounds in both situations and engaged in alleged military overreach, but I think those folks are short-sighted and wrong. Still, I don't think that view makes them any more or less of a "conservative"...MUD

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2010-01-25   15:06:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Mudboy Slim (#56) (Edited)

Adding a "NEO-" in front of the "Conservative" many of us have been fer a long, long time is certainly meant to be a perjorative term, wouldn't you agree? Just the same as if I called you a "FAUX"-Conservative...it's not meant to be descriptive or informative, it'd be becuz I was being derogatory.

It's absolutely descriptive and informative. It denotes a certain political philosophy just as conservative, liberal, libertarian, etc do.

That's something I just don't understand. A liberal will tell you that he's a liberal. A conservative, a libertarian, a progressive will all tell you what they are with no problem.

But NO ONE wants to claim the philosophy of neoconservative even though there CLEARLY ARE neoconservatives.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism

We The People  posted on  2010-01-26   20:01:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: We The People (#60) (Edited)

I'm not even sure that I know what a "Reagan Conservative" is...is it what he said he would do or what he actually did? Reagan's fiscal legacy was deficits as far as they eye can see, an exponential increase of the debt, bank failures, inflation creep and a meltdown of the Farm Credit and Savings and Loan systems.

I believe that if Reagan hadn't lucked into the end of the Cold War [a war neocons seem hell bent to keep fighting against an ever fluid enemy including us] his foreign policy legacy would be Saddam Hussein invading Kuwait with weapons paid for by the US...

war  posted on  2010-01-26   20:18:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: war (#61) (Edited)

I'm not even sure that I know what a "Reagan Conservative" is...is it what he said he would do or what he actually did?

I couldn't tell you. I've often been puzzled by that one too.

He sure ran a good campaign, and said all the things conservatives wanted to hear. Too bad he couldn't deliver on 90% of them.

Reagan's fiscal legacy was deficits as far as they eye can see, an exponential increase of the debt, bank failures, inflation creep and a meltdown of the Farm Credit and Savings and Loan systems.

But he made some great speeches, and I mean that sincerely. He had the jargon down pat. Maybe that's the guide or primer for Reagan conservatives. I don't know.

I believe that if Reagan hadn't lucked into the end of the Cold War [a war neocons seem hell bent to keep fighting against an ever fluid enemy including us] his foreign policy legacy would be Saddam Hussein invading Kuwait with weapons paid for by the US...

Damn, you sure know how to hurt a guy! LOL!

But, I can't find much to argue with in your post. I've made similar arguments myself. I wish Reagan HAD been able to live up to his promises. I still can't help liking the guy.

We The People  posted on  2010-01-27   20:46:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: We The People (#62)

Bro...I VOTED for Reagan in 1984...I voted reluctantly for Poppy in 1988 - how anyone could vote for Dukakis after that tank ride is a stumper - but was starting to have my doubts about GOP candidates walking the walk instead of talking the talk...Desert Storm sealed it for me...we goaded Saddam into invading...so I stopped voting for either party's candidate for POTUS after that year...

war  posted on  2010-01-27   21:42:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#65. To: war (#64)

Bro...I VOTED for Reagan in 1984...I voted reluctantly for Poppy in 1988 - how anyone could vote for Dukakis after that tank ride is a stumper - but was starting to have my doubts about GOP candidates walking the walk instead of talking the talk...Desert Storm sealed it for me...we goaded Saddam into invading...so I stopped voting for either party's candidate for POTUS after that year...

LOL

Sleep it off dude.

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