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Title: Pence Wants to Land Astronauts on the Moon Within Five Years
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Time Magazine
URL Source: http://time.com/5559376/mike-pence-astronauts-moon-landing/
Published: Mar 27, 2019
Author: Marcia Dunn
Post Date: 2019-03-27 08:56:54 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 973
Comments: 21
(CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla.) — Vice President Mike Pence on Tuesday called for landing astronauts on the moon within five years, an accelerated pace that would aim to put Americans on the lunar south pole. Pence said NASA needs to achieve that goal “by any means necessary.” Speaking at a meeting of the National Space Council in Huntsville, Alabama, he said NASA rockets and lunar landers will be replaced by private craft, if required. “It’s time to redouble our effort,” he said. “It can happen, but it will not happen unless we increase the pace.” Now, the earliest possible landing on the moon by NASA isn’t until 2028, Pence said. He acknowledged talent — and money — will be necessary to pull it off earlier. Pence warned that if NASA can’t put astronauts on the moon by 2024, “we need to change the organization, not the mission.” The space agency must transform into a leaner, more accountable and more agile organization, and must adopt an “all-hands-on-deck approach,” he said. NASA Administrator Jim Bridenstine assured Pence that NASA will do everything possible to meet the deadline. Some outside experts were skeptical of the new timeline. “I will be astonished if this happens,” said Jonathan McDowell of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics in Cambridge, Massachusetts, noting that a lunar lander still needs to be designed, built and tested. “That is a hard challenge on a five year time scale even without political budget infighting,” he wrote in an email. This summer marks the 50th anniversary of the first manned moon landing. Since Apollo astronauts last walked on the moon in 1972, no country has made a serious attempt to send humans back to the lunar surface. For decades, NASA has flip-flopped between the moon and Mars, a victim of changing presidential administrations. More recently, President Barack Obama targeted Mars as astronauts’ next big destination, while President Donald Trump has favored the moon. In order to get astronauts on the moon by 2024, Bridenstine said the space agency’s new megarocket will be needed, but its development and pace will need to be faster. Two weeks ago, he said NASA was considering using private rockets instead to launch its new Orion capsule around the moon without a crew on a test flight next year. But on Tuesday, he expressed confidence that the SLS, or Space Launch System, would be ready for the job. He also stressed the need for an outpost with astronauts near the moon to serve as a stepping-off point for lunar landings. Pence leads the National Space Council. The advisory group held its fifth meeting at the U.S. Space and Rocket Center, right next door to NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center, where the Saturn V moon rockets were developed decades ago and where the Boeing-built SLS is now managed. This longtime rocket know-how is why Huntsville is nicknamed Rocket City. It took just eight years for NASA to accomplish everything to put astronauts on the moon in July 1969. It was unacceptable, Pence said, that SLS delays and cost overruns point to a 2028 target date — nearly two decades after the SLS program began. The vice president instructed NASA to aim to land on the moon’s south pole, where considerable amounts of ice could be used for drinking and making rocket fuel. “The exploration of the heavens in this still new century will go forward with or without the United States. But Americans don’t do second place. Americans lead, and so we will,” Pence said to cheers and applause. Planetary scientist Alan Stern of the Southwest Research Institute said 2024 is feasible provided the accelerated effort is funded properly and commercial space systems are fully embraced. “The moon is a truly outstanding target, both for science and for getting our exploration legs back before we set out to further destinations like Mars,” Stern wrote in an email. But former NASA official Scott Hubbard said five years seems “awfully short to me,” given the lack of national security incentives like those that existed during Apollo and the Cold War race to beat the Soviets to the moon. Hubbard pointed out that both Bush administrations proposed similar far-reaching exploration efforts. “Those didn’t go anywhere and collapsed of their own significant financial weight,” he noted in an email. The University of Colorado at Boulder’s Bobby Braun said he’d like to review the budget and details for implementation “as those details matter.” He previously served as NASA’s chief technologist. “The United States aerospace community is certainly capable of achieving this goal if provided with stability of purpose and the resources to do so,” Braun wrote in an email.
Poster Comment: Just who the hell does Pence thing he's fooling? Jorge Dubya Arbusto destroyed America's capability of ever returning to the moon a long time ago... The only way we'll ever go back is if Trump want to hitch a ride with the fucking Chinese....
Shit... he can't even build a fucking wall....
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#1. To: Willie Green (#0)
I'm a big NASA fan, but they're embarrassing themselves by acting like just another government agency. What have they been doing since 1969? For the last 50 years they've been designing a bigger and better Apollo capsule which will hold four astronauts instead of three with a mission of returning to the moon by 2028 … maybe. Wow. I'm excited, aren't you? In the meantime, SpaceX has designed, launched, and recovered a 7-man capsule that has docked with the space station using a re-usable rocket.
This'll be great - put a plaque with Donald J. Trump's signature up there with the one from Richard M. Nixon.
SpaceX doesn't compete against NASA... Jorge Dubya Dumbass-Arbusto provided a goobermint subsidy to SpaceX by having NASA outsource its missions TO SpaceX... Naturally, SpaceX charges NASA about 20% more than what it charges private sector customers for space launch missions...
That would be worth the price of admission, wouldn't it? HA! EXCEPT... We can't actually escape orbit. We NEVER went to the moon and can't. NASA is BS. It's even admitted that, "WE LOST THE TECHNOLOGY." Chyeah, right. Man... the secrets this gummint, this system wield that we've been led to believe.
You and most people. Jorge Dubya Arbusto destroyed America's capability of ever returning to the moon a long time ago... HUH?? Dubya and his family can be blamed for a lot. But THE MOON?? Btw Willie -- that train actually NEVER left the station; NASA has admitted: "WE LOST THE TECHNOLOGY TO GO TO THE MOON." Bwaahaa!! We NEVER went to the moon. AND CAN'T. (Sshhhh -- that's the Big Secret. NASA would lose their gazillions and millions of minds would be blown were the entire Hoax of Hoaxes exposed.)
No shit, gunga din... Fucking Dubya downsized & outsourced/offshored every technological advantage the United States ever used to have... And there ain't nothing bullshitter Trump can do to ever MAGA... He's just another bullshitter conartist... Oh good grief... You're just as friggin' hopeless as gobbledegook boris...
Willie, I'm afraid you've been hopelessly and completely conditioned, indoctrinated, and bamboozled to epic proportions.
Watch it and weep. NASA Astronaut: "I'd go to the Moon in a nanosecond. The problem is we don't have the technology to do that anymore. We used to but we destroyed that technology and it's a painful process to build it back again." Bwaahaa! Chyeah, right.
IIRC, NASA just recently admitted that humans can't pass through the dangerous Van Allen Belts. How did were they able to do that in 1969? On a related topic, have you ever heard of the Secret Space Programs?
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. How did were they able to do that in 1969? Simple. They weren't. (But ssshhhh...revealing the whole NASA project and moon "exploration" was yet one more lie and psyop would completely expose "Science" as a fraud...(besides destroying NASA funding-about-nothing and all the Trekkies' dreams.)
So - they DID have the ability to pass safely through the Van Allen Belt then, but no longer? NASA also destroyed or lost the original Apollo 11 moon footage. Even the Kubrick scenes. EDIT: Just saw your last reply about the VA Belt.
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. Btw, I'll check out the "Secret Space Programs" link....
So its claimed. But even the so-called Astronauts themselves won't answer that question. NASA also destroyed or lost the original Apollo 11 moon footage. Even the Kubrick scenes. Jerry: "Meh. That's a shame."
You mentioed something in PM a while back about flat earth theory - hope you aren't buying into that. IMHO it's an orchestrated psy-op used to portray all CT's as kooks. I have some links - I'll try and dig them up later.
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. I agree with the agenda and counter-operation psyop to achieve this. It's only partially successful. Which is exactly THE reason for the sudden censorship and crisis of "CTs!!" at YT, FB, etc. The PTB are in a panic mode.
Fair enough. But might the following "psy-ops"s and portrayal of their respective cynicism as "kookery" also apply to: 1) 911 2) Chemtrails 3) Moon Landings 4) Vaccines 5) Creationism/Young Earth 6) Global Warming 7) Russia Collusion (by Trump) (Just sayin')
IMO, Trump favors the moon because it's a better base of attack on earth. He can quickly build up an offensive array to hit his enemies, both foreign & domestic. INCOMING!
OR.. Because he is currying favor with certain PTB. Trump knows the truth.
Better than outsourcing to Russia as they were doing. NASA terminated the shuttle program with nothing to replace it.
#2. To: Willie Green (#0)
Make the Idiot Left crazy, bigly.
#3. To: misterwhite (#1)
In the meantime, SpaceX has designed, launched, and recovered a 7-man capsule that has docked with the space station using a re-usable rocket.
#4. To: Hank Rearden (#2)
This'll be great - put a plaque with Donald J. Trump's signature up there with the one from Richard M. Nixon. Make the Idiot Left crazy, bigly.
#5. To: Willie Green, Deckard (#0)
Just who the hell does Pence thing he's fooling?
#6. To: Liberator (#5)
"WE LOST THE TECHNOLOGY TO GO TO THE MOON."
We NEVER went to the moon. AND CAN'T.
#7. To: Willie Green (#6)
#8. To: Willie Green (#6)
(Edited)
#9. To: Liberator (#4)
We can't actually escape orbit. We NEVER went to the moon and can't. NASA is BS.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#10. To: Deckard (#9)
NASA just recently admitted that humans can't pass through the dangerous Van Allen Belts.
#11. To: Liberator (#8)
(Edited)
The problem is we don't have the technology to do that anymore.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#12. To: Deckard (#9)
(Edited)
#13. To: Deckard (#11)
So - they DID have the ability to pass safely through the Van Allen Belt then, but no longer?
#14. To: Deckard (#11)
#15. To: Liberator (#13)
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#16. To: Deckard (#15)
(Edited)
IMHO it's an orchestrated psy-op used to portray all CT's as kooks.
#17. To: Deckard (#15)
#18. To: Deckard (#15)
IMHO it's [Flat Earth] an orchestrated psy-op used to portray all CT's as kooks.
#19. To: Willie Green, moon offensive (#0)
For decades, NASA has flip-flopped between the moon and Mars, a victim of changing presidential administrations. More recently, President Barack Obama targeted Mars as astronauts’ next big destination, while President Donald Trump has favored the moon.
#20. To: hondo68 (#19)
IMO, Trump favors the moon because it's a better base of attack on earth.
#21. To: Willie Green (#3)
Jorge Dubya Dumbass-Arbusto provided a goobermint subsidy to SpaceX by having NASA outsource its missions TO SpaceX...
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