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United States News Title: Trump, Graham, Rubio, et. al are about to enact a gun confiscation bill that rivals anything in Nazi Germany or Stalin’s Russia Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) has announced that the Senate Judiciary Committee is scheduled to begin conducting hearings next Tuesday, March 26, on Senate Bill 7, the Extreme Risk Protection Order and Violence Prevention Act of 2019otherwise known as a national red flag gun confiscation bill. The bill was introduced in the Senate by Marco Rubio (R-FL). If this gun confiscation bill passes the U.S. Senate, it will most certainly pass the Democrat-controlled U.S. House of Representatives, and President Donald Trump absolutely WILL sign it into law. I am writing this open letter to Senators Rubio and Graham, President Trump and the untold numbers of legislators, judges and lawmen that will be working together to facilitate and execute the confiscation of the arms of innocent American citizenscitizens who have not even been charged with a crime. I have purchased a full-page ad in the capital city newspaper in my home State of Montana, the Helena Independent Record, in which the following letter will appear this Sunday, March 24. I urge readers to feel free to use, copy, promote, publish, etc., this open letter in an attempt to bring this information to the attention of as many people as possible. The GOP faithful are mostly in denial about what Donald Trump and many Republican senators are up to. They refuse to acknowledge that Trump, Graham, Rubio, et. al are about to enact a gun confiscation bill that rivals anything in Nazi Germany or Stalins Russia. If S.7 becomes law, NO gun owner (and that means YOU) will be protected from the seizure of their firearms. It will not matter that they have not committed a crime; it will not matter that they have not been charged with a crime; and it will not matter that they have never even threatened to commit a crime. And they wont even realize that its happening until the SWAT team bangs on their door at 5am to seize their guns. The letter below is an in-depth, passionate appeal to everyone involved to STOP S.7 from becoming law. The letter speaks for itself. Again, I urge everyone to take this open letter and get it into the hands of as many people as you can. If the American people do not arise in massive numbers against this bill, it WILL pass. We are getting NO HELP on this from the NRA or the vast majority of so-called pro-Second Amendment Republicans. Ron Paul, Gun Owners of America (GOA) and a few others are trying to warn the American people about this communistic bill. But thats about it. I beg you, folks, distribute this open letter to your friends, your family members, your neighbors, your sheriffs, your chiefs of police, your legislators, your local judgesdistribute this letter to EVERYONE. We dont have much time. And I mean that literally. [Begin my open letter to Senators Lindsey Graham, Marco Rubio, et. al] I know I am speaking for tens of thousands of my fellow Montanans and tens of millions of my fellow Americans when I say what Im about to say. Red flag gun confiscation laws violate every principle of liberty upon which our country was founded. There is no due process associated with red flag laws. A judges order to seize the firearms from an American citizen who has not been accused of a crime, charged with a crime, convicted of a crimeor who never even threatened to commit a crimebased on the accusation of a single individual is anything but due process. Our accuser could be a disgruntled employee, a bitter ex-spouse or relative, a vengeful neighbor, an anti-gun liberal or even an anti-gun policeman. By definition, red flag laws use mere suspicion of what one might do as justification to seize a persons firearms. Tactics such as these have been used in virtually every despotic regime of history. In the name of protecting society, the rights and liberties of individuals were denied. Eventually, these repressive governments included political or religious persuasion as triggering red flags, which led to their disarmamentall in the name of public safety, of course. You know as well as I do that when the rights of ONE American are abridged, the rights of ALL Americans are abridged. This is not yet a communist nation where the rights of the stateor even the rights of a majority of citizenssupersede the rights of the individual. Furthermore, it is a fallacy to suggest that a mental health diagnosis, by itself, indicates that someone is automatically a threat to himself or others. Dr. Ann Bukacek, a highly respected medical doctor in the community in which I live, recently wrote: Mental health diagnoses given by physicians or other mental health care workers do not predict firearm violence. As a physician for over 30 years who has treated many patients with mental health diagnoses and some autistic spectrum patients, I have not had one of those patients commit an act of gun violence. I did have a patient who bludgeoned a man to death with a blunt object, and that patient carried no mental health diagnosis. Psychopaths with no conscience, especially the more intelligent ones, usually escape detection and/or a particular diagnosis. This doctors examination of the issue reflects reality. Besides, under these red flag laws, exactly who is it that determines that someone is crazy? Is it one judge, who bases his or her conclusion on the accusations of just one individual? Is it up to politicians or government bureaucrats to define who is and who is not crazy? There are some people who believe that anyone who would even own a firearm is crazy. Others believe ones political or religious beliefs qualify him as crazy. Heck! We have all read the documentation of various governments (local, State and federal) that have assigned all kinds of crazy (even dangerous) definitions against people based on their interpretation of Bible prophecy or their association with political candidates such as former Congressman Ron Paul or their opposition to politically correct ideologies, etc. Does the judge who issues a warrant to seize a persons firearms under a red flag law provide the accused with an opportunity to defend himself BEFORE violating his constitutional and Natural rights? No. Does the judge provide an opportunity for a close examination of the accusations against the accused (including investigating the accuser) BEFORE violating his constitutional and Natural rights? No. Does the judge allow the accused to face his accuser BEFORE violating his constitutional and Natural rights? No. Red flag laws turn the Bill of Rights and the fundamental legal doctrine that a man is innocent until proven guilty completely upside down. Red flag laws are a mockery to every constitutional principle of liberty since the Magna Carta. Seizing a citizens firearms by force (and thereby rendering him defenseless) without a crime being committedor even the accusation of a crime being madeis old-fashioned TYRANNY. Such an act presumes a person is guilty until proven innocent. Then there is this: After the guns are seized, it could take years for the victim to prove his innocence (or competence) and have his guns returnedand in what condition would they be when (and IF) returned? Furthermore, will you legislators, judges and police officers who collaborate to strip an innocent persons ability to defend himself accept any responsibility when the real bad guys take advantage of this persons vulnerability and invade his home and bludgeon or rape or even kill his family? Of course you wont. But mark it down: You will be held responsible in the eyes of Almighty Godand in the eyes of the citizens you have victimized. And are you really going to try and tell us that police officers are more competent and mentally stable than the rest of us? Are you kidding? The examples of improper, unsafe, careless and even homicidal acts of cops with guns are ubiquitous. It was an FBI agent who was armed at a nightclub in Denver and then started gyrating and dancing like a madman until his handgun fell on the floor, discharged and wounded a fellow patron. But no official even questioned this officers fitness to possess a firearmeven AFTER that event took place. Then there is the case of the Dallas police officer who walked into the wrong apartment and shot and killed the man who lived inside. Where was the red flag regarding this officer? And what about the two police officers in St. Louis who used a revolver to play Russian roulette, and one of the two wound up shooting and killing the other one? Why wasnt a red flag raised about these nincompoops? These stories could go on forever. Where are the red flag laws for the policemen and sheriffs deputies in this country? The only difference between them and the rest of us who are being victimized by these draconian red flag laws is that they wear badges, and we do notand the other difference is the vast majority of private citizens who carry firearms are not nearly as stupid and incompetent as the policemen mentioned above. So much for equal justice under the law. It has taken many of us a lifetime of hard work and labor to be able to obtain our gun collections; we have successfully passed FBI background checks and local and State requirements and obligations for responsible gun ownership, yet our guns are going to be confiscated overnight on the word of someone (an anonymous someone, at that) who claims we might be unsuitable to own a gun? Again, such an act turns American history and our Bill of Rights upside down. Kris Kobach is the former Secretary of State of Kansas. He is a former professor of constitutional law at UMKC School of Law. He wrote an excellent analysis of the constitutional violations of these red flag laws: The implementation of red flag laws (at any level) is unconscionable and totally unacceptable. And I am here to warn you that there are millions of Americans who will never submit to such oppression. None of us wants to see acts of violence committed against law enforcement personnel in America, but when law enforcers begin carrying out these draconian red flag laws, they will begin lighting the matches of resistance in the hearts of freedom-loving people in this country like hasnt been seen in over 150 years. We have already heard about Gary Willis, the Maryland man who was killed by police officers in his own home as they attempted to carry out a red flag order to seize his guns. This man had committed no crime; he had not been accused of committing a crime; he was given no hearing and no due process. Mr. Willis did not attempt to harm the officers; he merely resisted their efforts to disarm him, and he was killed on the spotin his own homeby police officers who had taken an oath to protect the liberties of this poor innocent man. I assure you, Mr. Willis will not be the last American to resist the attempted confiscation of his firearms. Do you legislators, judges, county sheriffs, chiefs of police, sheriffs deputies and city policemen not realize that red flag laws are tantamount to a declaration of war against the American people? Are you so far removed from the laws of Nature and Natures God that you cannot see this? Do you not realize that in spite of all of Great Britains abuses of power, our colonist forebears did not openly rebel against the Crown until King George sent troops to Lexington and Concord to confiscate the colonists firearms? You do understand that, right? And you do understand, do you not, that the blood of the colonists flows in the veins of we Americans? At what point do the American people come to believe that you truly do NOT wish to honor your oath to the Constitution or behave in a manner that truly honors Americas Second Amendment and the heritage of liberty that we all share as Americans? At what point do we Americans lose all respect for our civil magistrates and peace officers? For many Americans, that point will come when policemen bang on their doors at 5am and attempt to seize their guns. Do you not realize that every single instance of an innocent person being subjected to a red flag gun confiscation order will only magnify and strengthen the resentment and animosity in the hearts of the community against these lawsand against the ones who are creating and implementing them? Do you not understand that this is a powder keg that could explode into all-out rebellion at any time? Do you want that? I dont want that! I dont want that for my wife and me, my children and grandchildren, my friends or my community. Why would you legislators, judges and policemen even think about doing such a thing? In the name of all that we hold dear, in the name of the brave men at Lexington Green and Concord Bridge, in the name of every American who has given his life in defense of the principles contained in our Declaration of Independence, our Constitution and our Bill of Rightsincluding many of our brave police officers and sheriffs deputiesand in the name of the Natural Laws of our Creator, please STOP this madness before you literally tear our communities and our country apart. As a legislator, you must not pass any semblance of a red flag law; as a judge, you must not issue a gun confiscation warrant on the basis of a red flag law; as a sheriff or chief of police, you must not order your officers to confiscate a citizens guns on the basis of a red flag warrant; and if you are a sheriffs deputy or city policeman, you must not obey an order to confiscate your fellow citizens guns on the basis of a red flag law. I beg you to realize what you are doing. I beg you to refuse to participate in this madness. I beg you to join your fellow churchmen, clubmen, neighbors, friends and townsmen and help us turn back this dastardly attempt to transform our constitutional republic into another repressive regime that, in the end, would require The People to tear it down. Again, I beg you to think about what you are doing, about the pain you are causing, about the lives you are ruining and about the potential harm you are inflicting on our country. Red flag laws are on the wrong side of history, the wrong side of our Constitution, the wrong side of liberty and on the wrong side of the laws of God. [End open letter] And here is a short video of this letter on my YouTube channel. Feel free to share the video version of this letter as well. Folks, please take this seriously. Our libertiesand maybe our liveshang in the balance.
Poster Comment: LibertyFellowshipMT This open letter was delivered by Dr. Chuck Baldwin prior to the message on Sunday, March 17, 2019, during the service at Liberty Fellowship. The letter addresses the "red flag" gun confiscation law (Senate Bill 7) currently being proposed by Senators Marco Rubio (R-FL) and Lindsey Graham (R-SC). President Donald Trump is also pushing this gun confiscation bill. This open letter addresses the egregious unconstitutionality of "red flag" laws and the dangerous ramifications that will result should this bill become law.
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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)
As I have said before, these red flag laws are NOT good, and will end badly !! They are being pushed by those seeking total power. If Trump really does endorse this crap, he can forget getting a second term, even if he does support more tax cuts ! He will see his base evaporate !!
What about a restraining order where they remove guns?
Against who ????? Do you mean a restraining order to block the confiscation, or do you mean a restraining order against the target of the confiscation ? Please be more clear & specific!
#15. To: Stoner (#11)
Where, let's say, an ex-wife is threatened by her husband. She goes to court a gets a restraining order where he has to stay at least 1,000 feet away. In addition, since he poses a threat, his guns are taken away. That's the existing law that's been around a long time. I'm asking how this new "Red Flag" law is any different than what we've been doing.
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