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Title: Are libertarian Republicans misreading the political climate?
Source: theweek.com
URL Source: https://theweek.com/articles/828943 ... s-misreading-political-climate
Published: Mar 17, 2019
Author: W. James Antle III
Post Date: 2019-03-17 20:36:54 by Gatlin
Keywords: None
Views: 4466
Comments: 60

All it took was a noncommittal response to generate a little 2020 buzz. "I would never rule anything out," Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) told CNN's Jake Tapper earlier this month when asked if he would run for president as a libertarian. "That's not on my radar right now, but I think that it is important that we have someone in there who is presenting a vision for America that is different from what these two parties are presenting." Far from a declaration of candidacy, this was not a Shermanesque statement, either. "Sounds like a platform," Tapper replied when Amash talked about the principles that unite Americans.

Despite President Trump's tax cuts, deregulation, and even criminal justice reform, it's generally been a frustrating time for libertarian Republicans like Amash. But if Democrats take the White House in 2020, Democratic overreach — and the backlash it triggers — will once again present libertarians with an opportunity to lead the GOP. Can they convince the party to follow?

Trump isn't a limited-government true believer, and organizations from the Tea Party (which helped elect Amash) to the House Freedom Caucus (to which Amash belongs) seem to be filled with people who are more interested in rallying behind the president than cutting the federal government down to its constitutional size. Entitlement reform is out; tariffs and trade wars are in. The discretionary spending cuts in Trump's budget are dead on arrival; the deficit — once again nearing $1 trillion, this time under the GOP and a growing economy — is very alive.

The Trump era has been especially frustrating for Amash. He's not drawn to nationalism or populism, much less partisan tribalism. He didn't like the appointment of Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court or either of Trump's attorneys general. He doesn't see Trump as having made much progress ending the country's wars.

"When some libertarians talk about the great accomplishments we're seeing on foreign policy, I don't know what they're talking about," Amash told The Washington Post last year. "Reaching out to these guys is one thing, but you have to move down the court. [Trump] actually made it harder for us to have a good relationship with Russia."

The Post story was about how Amash was "marooned" in Congress. A more recent piece on CNN's website called him "the loneliest Republican" in the legislative branch. Thus the speculation he'll leave to take a flier on the Libertarian Party nomination in 2020.

As gloomy as things now seem, another "libertarian moment" — the last one was just four or five years ago — could be on the horizon. Democrats no longer believe that the era of big government is over, as Bill Clinton professed. They increasingly want to expand Medicare to Americans under the age of 65, return to tax rates unseen since Ronald Reagan came to Washington, disrupt private health insurance more than ObamaCare did, and grow government in ways that imposes costs on middle-class voters as well as offer them benefits. And the Green New Deal will legitimately require trillions of dollars in new federal expenditures at a time when it is not clear how to responsibly keep the promises made by our existing welfare state.

If — when — the Democrats retake the White House, Republicans are sure to once again get tough on fiscal conservatism (even if their overall motivation is more complicated), as they did in 1994 and 2010. Deficits will matter. But the GOP's government-cutting zeal usually fizzles out by the presidential election. Sometimes the revival of Republican political fortunes has faded by that time, too. That's a problem for strong fiscal conservatives like Amash. Trying to avoid the same fate as the Tea Party, or Newt Gingrich's Congresses, is probably a more productive use of one's time than vying with John McAfee for Libertarian Party presidential bragging rights.

As a libertarian, Gary Johnson was a useful safety valve for voters who found their 2016 and 2020 presidential options unpalatable. But as a Republican, he was the two-term governor of New Mexico. As a libertarian, Ron Paul finished a very distant third in the 1988 race for the White House. As a Republican, he served 12 terms in Congress and even his losing presidential campaigns had much more influence.

Still, there are undeniable challenges. Republicans now depend on the votes of people collecting Social Security and Medicare, receiving farm subsidies, and benefiting from Pentagon spending. Even some veterans of the Ron Paul campaign are questioning whether limited government is adequate to address the country's problems. So rather than exhorting Republicans to be more principled and less partisan, libertarians and constitutional conservatives would perhaps do well to grapple with the shallowness of their political appeal.


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Even some veterans of the Ron Paul campaign are questioning whether limited government is adequate to address the country's problems. So rather than exhorting Republicans to be more principled and less partisan, libertarians and constitutional conservatives would perhaps do well to grapple with the shallowness of their political appeal.

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#1. To: Gatlin (#0)

Gatlin's statement of absurdity.

Even some veterans of the Ron Paul campaign are questioning whether limited government is adequate to address the country's problems.

Gatlin's absurd conclusion.

So rather than exhorting Republicans to be more principled and less partisan, libertarians and constitutional conservatives would perhaps do well to grapple with the shallowness of their political appeal.

Tater, you are an idiot.

buckeroo  posted on  2019-03-17   20:49:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: buckeroo (#1)

Gatlin's statement of absurdity.
Even some veterans of the Ron Paul campaign are questioning whether limited government is adequate to address the country's problems.
Ahem …

Those are not my words, I made no such statement. Those are the words of W. James Antle III – Editor of The American Conservative and author of Devouring Freedom: Can Big Government Ever Be Stopped?

Gatlin's absurd conclusion.
So rather than exhorting Republicans to be more principled and less partisan, libertarians and constitutional conservatives would perhaps do well to grapple with the shallowness of their political appeal.

That is not my conclusion, I made no such conclusion. That the conclusion of W. James Antle III – Editor of The American Conservative and author of Devouring Freedom: Can Big Government Ever Be Stopped?

Tater, you are an idiot.

To use of an offensive name directed towards me when you lack information of substance to rebut a thesis presented by the author as a attempt to induce rejection or condemnation without objective consideration and presentation of rebuttal facts is analytically and rhetorically disastrous while also showing a definite lack of knowledge.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-17   21:17:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Gatlin, buckeroo (#3)

Nice attempt at obfuscation you disingenuous prick! When have you EVER posted an anti-libertarian article and NOT agreed with it?

Deckard  posted on  2019-03-17   21:21:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Deckard (#5)

Nice attempt at obfuscation you disingenuous prick! When have you EVER posted an anti-libertarian article and NOT agreed with it?
I never said that I did or did not agree with it.

I simply stated the quotes that Bucky used were not mine.

The quotes were those words used by the author.

There was NO attempt at any obfuscation by me and neither was I being disingenuous in any way.

Had you had asked me DIRECLY if I agreed with the author instead of AGAIN making a presumptive conclusion I would have answered you.

Sonny boy, you need to stop using presumptive conclusions and start addressing things STRAIGHT on.

Now, Please address the article and cease attacking me because you have “no substance” …

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-17   21:48:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Gatlin, buckeroo (#9)

There was NO attempt at any obfuscation by me and neither was I being disingenuous in any way.

You unscrupulous ass!

When have you EVER posted an anti-libertarian article and NOT agreed with it?

You're not fooling anyone with your your tiny-fisted tantrums you fraudulent cow.

The consensus here is that you are a pathetic, bleating sheep who deserves contempt and ridicule. Your egotistical self-aggrandizement and your lack of common courtesy and manners are simply disgusting.

Deckard  posted on  2019-03-17   23:07:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Deckard (#22)

… bleating sheep who deserves contempt and ridicule.
You have shown contempt and tried to ridicule me already.

Now can we please discuss the article about Amash and libertarianism?

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-17   23:16:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Gatlin (#27) (Edited)

You have shown contempt and tried to ridicule me already.

And deservedly so.

What a snowflake - you can dish it out, but when someone responds in kind, you whine like a little bitch.

Deckard  posted on  2019-03-17   23:20:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Deckard (#29)

Is this really all you have to contribute?

Discuss the ARTICLE, please ...

Why can't you?

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-17   23:24:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Gatlin (#31)

Boring article.

Boring discussion.

Buckeroo misrepresenting what you said vs quoted.

Buckeroo name calling

Deckard doing some name calling from at the beginning. Offering opinions on Gatlin throughout.

A K A Stone  posted on  2019-03-17   23:28:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: A K A Stone (#34)

Buckeroo misrepresenting what you said vs quoted.

Buckeroo name calling

Deckard doing some name calling from at the beginning. Offering opinions on Gatlin throughout.

Yes, I know.

Thank you for your post.

I am done here.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-17   23:31:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Gatlin (#35)

I have an interesting post coming up in 1 min

A K A Stone  posted on  2019-03-17   23:34:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#37. To: A K A Stone (#36)

I will wait ..

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-17 23:36:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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