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Title: As anti-vax movement gets weirder - and dumber - Facebook announces crackdown
Source: ArsTechnica
URL Source: https://arstechnica.com/science/201 ... -facebook-announces-crackdown/
Published: Mar 11, 2019
Author: Beth Mole
Post Date: 2019-03-11 10:02:49 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 12790
Comments: 59

Facing scrutiny for allowing anti-vaccine lies and conspiracy theories to fester and spread on its pages, Facebook announced Thursday a set of steps it will take to rid its platform of misinformation—which has seemingly become even weirder and more idiotic recently.

The move follows a letter sent to Facebook from Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) last month, raising concerns that anti-vaccine information spread on the site could corrupt anxious parents’ views of safe, life-saving immunizations. Schiff also questioned the popular social media site about accepting payments from anti-vaccine advertisements.

Facebook wasn’t the only media giant questioned; Schiff sent a similar letter to Google, too, raising concerns about content on YouTube specifically. Still, Facebook has taken center stage on the issue.

In a Senate hearing last week exploring the rise of misinformation about vaccines (titled Vaccines Save Lives), a now-high-profile Ohio teenager made a point to single out the site. Ethan Lindenberger, the 18-year-old who famously got himself vaccinated despite his mother being fiercely against vaccines, said his mother’s false beliefs came from one place: Facebook. When a Senator asked Lindenberger where he got his information on vaccines, Lindenberger, chuckling, responded, “not Facebook.”

“From CDC, World Health Organization, scientific journals… accredited sources,” he added.

With the steps outlined Thursday, Facebook aims to inject some of those credible sources into its platform. Broadly, the social media giant will try to boost the profile of accurate, authoritative information on vaccines while thwarting the spread of pre-identified vaccine misinformation in news feeds and recommendations. It will also boot ads with that misinformation.

To identify just what is false and what is credible, Facebook said it will rely on the World Health Organization and the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to pick out what it referred to as “vaccine hoaxes.“

“If these vaccine hoaxes appear on Facebook, we will take action against them,” the company said. It offered an example of planned actions, saying that “if a group or Page admin posts this vaccine misinformation, we will exclude the entire group or Page from recommendations, reduce these groups and Pages' distribution in News Feed and Search, and reject ads with this misinformation.”

Morphing myths

The success of the stated plan may hinge on whether the World Health Organization and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention can keep up with the ever-shifting conspiracy theories and bunkum related to vaccines. The noxious yet established falsehood that vaccines or vaccine components can cause autism, for instance, has been widely debunked. But others are burgeoning and may be hard to head off. For instance, there's the myth that vaccines are cash cows for Big Pharma (they make relatively little revenue), which is secretly behind pro-vaccine messages (they’re not; public health experts are).

More recently, a theme that has been volleyed by anti-vaccine advocates is that getting measles is somehow good for you and could prevent cancer. Both are completely wrong. Measles is a serious illness that can cause severe disabilities in children, including deafness and intellectual disabilities. It is also deadly. An ongoing measles outbreak in Madagascar, for instance, has killed nearly 1,000 children. Being dead isn’t good for you.

The idea circulating that measles can prevent cancer may stem from a misunderstanding of studies that used bioengineered versions of the virus to deliver cancer therapies. But these are not the viruses that circulate during outbreaks. There is no credible evidence to suggest that previous measles infections will protect a person from cancers.

Last, in an even more idiotic turn, a Texas lawmaker argued that he was not worried about measles because, in the US, we have “antibiotics and that kind of stuff.” Antibiotics only treat bacterial infections. Measles is caused by a virus. Moreover, there is no specific antiviral treatment for measles.

Due in large part to this kind of misinformation spreading, the US is now battling six separate measles outbreaks and has confirmed cases in 11 states so far this year. Amid an outbreak in Washington state, more than 800 potentially exposed children have been barred from schools.

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#18. To: hondo68, IbJensen (#14)

Btw, did you check out the reaction up above of those "stars" who believe they are about to be "vaccinated" in the Golden Globes vid? Priceless.

Liberator  posted on  2019-03-11   14:37:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Liberator (#16)

FB isn't the only danger; Twitter and YouTube along with FB are ALL coincidentally and simultaneous censoring and shutting down opposition

I'll add Google to that. There's a lot of taxpayer money going to all of the above, FBI, CIA, DHS, foundations, think tanks, etc, and big stupid government controlling the dumbed down public school, vaccinated & indoctrinated sheeple voters via media disinfo talking heads propaganda & partisan fake "alternative media", .

After all that, it's tough for the dazed & confused sheeple to even find the polling place and chose between the two preselected D&R party candidates.

Little hope that they'll write in someone that they actually like, who might do a good job, or vote "third" (really second) party.


Hondo68  posted on  2019-03-11   15:06:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: hondo68, Deckard, Pinguinite, IbJensen, nolu chan (#19)

Right -- of course g00gle should have been included in this pack of Deep State stooge ops.

It is essential that the Globalist One World Gummint puppetmeisters keep the sheeple in the dark. ZERO light preferably.

From K-College, childrens' critical thinking skills are quashed. The elites MUST maintain control and the narrative. Maintaining ignorance is of course the best way to acheive this (besides the outright current criminalization of mere opinion and gaslighting strategy we see today. What we are now witnessing is institutional violations of the 1A (which is in dire jeopardy of losing.)

The PTB policies and agenda are specifically about blatant misdirection or elimination of the public's right and ability to deeply scrutinize and investigate any given "Official Report" or version of "truth."

There's a lot of taxpayer money going to all of the above, FBI, CIA, DHS, foundations, think tanks, etc, and big stupid government controlling the dumbed down public school, vaccinated & indoctrinated sheeple voters via media disinfo talking heads propaganda & partisan fake "alternative media."

Well deconstructed; Hear ya on every single word and equation and plan you've just connected.

Now that many are started to be awakened via the above media, the elites are panicking. They ordered FB, G00gle, YT and Twitter to start taking down what's been exposed and its vloggers and "Truther" sites ghost-banned or suspended for bogus "Violations of Terms of Us". Once we see talk of criminalizing free speech and truth, they and we know the jig is up. The One World Gummint globalists (or Luciferian elites) cannot afford to have ANY of the truths go viral.

Especially at YouTube are many well-informed communicators who have been extremely effective at exposing the entire "Beast System", their indoctrination and programming -- along with the elites imminent plans to criminalize the Truth.

So again -- YT is purging the site like crazy. And YT, FB, Twitter ALL grooming mobs of programmed TROLLS and paid shill to counter the truth. We must access this stuff before it's removed totally. And again to repeat -- a number of vids produced by vloggers who reported on the whole VAX theater by Hollywood and TV...ARE NOW PURGED.

IF you notice, the PTB biggest "NO-GO!" taboo subjects at YT etal are:

1) 9/11
2) 0bama's BC
3) PizzaGate
4) The Vegas Slaughter
5) Newtown

These are why they had to eliminate and neuter Alex Jones.

Liberator  posted on  2019-03-11   16:00:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: hondo68 (#19)

After all that, it's tough for the dazed & confused sheeple to even find the polling place and chose between the two preselected D&R party candidates.

Hondo, the (D) party is already well-absorbed and fully co-opted.

As to the GOP, its party "leadership," aka McTurtle and Ryan (as well as his replacement, McCarthy, and HALF of the Republican Party legislators) have been co-opted. No need to even co-opt a President who has NEVER been a member of all the usual elite "secret orgs." The reason he's been framed, set up, and an entire media gang-bangs him every day: "Trump is not one of us."

True -- The sheeple have never been more dazed and confused by a political system they've always been told and taught was a legit process. And the Courts "fair." We're reeling from the constant lies and manipulation, thanks to a Fake MSM and the usual cast of propaganda Social Media "news" outlets and...fake Twitter opinions.

Now that the Easter Bunny has been exposed, they need to change ALL the rules after the next (fake) election. Just what those new "rules" aka "laws" will be...will NOT be good.

Liberator  posted on  2019-03-11   16:09:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Tooconservative (#1)

This is my first viewing of a fascist, and with a name meant to deceive. Too conservative is not pro-liberty at all, but pro-big government.

THIS IS A TAG LINE...Exercising rights is only radical to two people, Tyrants and Slaves. Which are YOU? Our ignorance has driven us into slavery and we do not recognize it.

jeremiad  posted on  2019-03-11   17:47:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: jeremiad, TooConstipated (#22)

This is my first viewing of a fascist, and with a name meant to deceive. Too conservative

+1

He's been around a while, and starts to sound more like Thomas Jefferson when there's a Dem President.

Partisan hack, IMO.


Hondo68  posted on  2019-03-11   19:38:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: jeremiad (#22)

You and Hondope are window licking retards. TooConservative is far from “pro big government”

Get back on your lithium... you won’t hear the evil government voices in your head any longer.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2019-03-11   20:03:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: jeremiad, Tooconservative (#22)

Too conservative is not pro-liberty at all, but pro-big government.

This causes great laughter in those of use who know Tooconservative well because of the absurdity and provokingly deserving derision in your unfounded charge.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-11   20:27:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Tooconservative (#5)

Contaminated vaccines have been a periodic problem over the years, there is no denying it.

That is not a reason to discontinue vaccination for public health.

You sound rather dismissive of the overwhelming injury that at least a few families have suffered because of vaccines.

Big Pharma is greedy and loves its profits but vaccines like these common ones are not profit centers for their business. It also can expose them to vast legal liabilities, such as in the case you cited above.

Then why wouldn't the families such as the one I cited NOT have been informed about the contaminated one their kids received? What was the motivation? Or was it simply incompetence?

Pinguinite  posted on  2019-03-11   22:56:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Liberator (#9)

Interesting. HA! FB is calling their defense of lies and solution to the truth-exposed to be their version of the cyber-gulag -- censorship and banishment opinions and facts they dislike?

The implicit but undeniable message in their proposed censorship is that Freedom of Speech has run its course and should no longer be considered a Constitutionally Protected Right. It is instead relegated to a bygone era because more harm is done to society when it is permitted in the digital age.

According to Facebook, people are officially too stupid to hear alternative viewpoints.

Pinguinite  posted on  2019-03-11   23:01:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Pinguinite, snowflakes (#27)

people are officially too stupid to hear alternative viewpoints

There are some that are too stupid to consider alternative viewpoints, but thank God there's only a few.

We all know who they (snowflakes) are, so I won't bother to ping them individually.


Hondo68  posted on  2019-03-11   23:11:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Pinguinite (#26)

Then why wouldn't the families such as the one I cited NOT have been informed about the contaminated one their kids received? What was the motivation? Or was it simply incompetence?

Probably because no one advertises information that will get their asses sued off in court and subject them to hundreds of thousands in court costs and settlements.

No one likes to be sued.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-03-11   23:22:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: jeremiad (#22)

Too conservative is not pro-liberty at all, but pro-big government.

I'm pro-public health.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-03-11   23:24:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Tooconservative, jeremiad (#30) (Edited)

I'm pro-public health.

Often public health organizations use an assessment checklist that attempts to weigh risk assessment. There is little guarantee and the idea that risk [analysis] is 100% is foolish at best. Failure Mode and Effects Analysis [FMEA] is often used as a "best guess" tool.

buckeroo  posted on  2019-03-11   23:41:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Tooconservative (#0)

*Initials for the virus is AuAg? https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/54/2/157

WWG1WWA  posted on  2019-03-12   8:16:42 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: All (#32)

Peer reviewed study on fetal cell contamination with retro virus associated with autism and cancer http://www.globalresearch.ca/new-study-in-journal-o…/5402912

Study documentation- Dr Deisher http://www.ms.academicjournals.org/…/article1409245960_Deis…

Autism and mercury poisoning http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11339848

Hypothesis: conjugate vaccines may predispose children to autism spectrum disorders http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21993250

Rise in autism coincides with rise in vaccines http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21623535

A two-phase study evaluating the relationship between Thimerosal-containing vaccine administration and the risk for an autism spectrum disorder diagnosis in the United States http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3878266/

Elevated levels of measles antibodies in children with autism. - PubMed - NCBI Pediatr Neurol. 2003 Apr;28(4):292-4. Research Support, Non-U.S. Gov't www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

•••••••••••••••• A study published in the Journal of Biomedical Sciences determined that the autoimmunity to the central nervous system may play a causal role in autism. Researchers discovered that because many autistic children harbour elevated levels of measles antibodies, they should conduct a serological study of measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) and myelin basic protein (MBP) autoantibodies. They used serum samples of 125 autistic children and 92 controlled children. Their analysis showed a significant increase in the level of MMR antibodies in autistic children. The study concludes that the autistic children had an inappropriate or abnormal antibody response to MMR. The study determined that autism could be a result from an atypical measles infection that produces neurological symptoms in some children. The source of this virus could be a variant of MV, or it could be the MMR vaccine.

WWG1WWA  posted on  2019-03-12   8:22:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: All (#33)

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed /12145534

••••••••••••••••••• IMPORTANT- Package inserts:

www.immunize.org/fda/ Ingredients:

www.cdc.gov/…/do…/appendices/b/excipient-table-2.pdf

Supreme Court declares vaccines unavoidably unsafe:www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/10pdf/09-152.pdf

National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act legislation (renders manufactures 100% of any & all liability): www.congress.gov/bill/99th-congress/house- bill/5546

VAERS: vaers.hhs.gov/index National Compensation Court website (note the $4 billion paid out comes from tax payers):

www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecomp ensation/data/

Detox baths: www.howhesraised.net/…/the-beginners-guide-to-deto…/

Vaccine requirements for work/school by state: www.nvic.org/Vaccine…/state-vaccine-requirements.aspx

Vit K package insert: www.accessdata.fda.gov/ …/2003/012223Orig1s039Lbl.pdf

People who should not be vaccinated: www.thefamilythathealstogether.com/vaccine-contrai…/

Lawsuit determines that federally required safety studies have not been performed in 30 years: icandecide.org/…/ICAN-HHS-Stipulated-Order-July-2018…

Fetal Cells & Vaccine Contaminates- Fetal cells: vaccineimpact.com/…/new-fetal-cell-line-from-live-a…/

More on fetal cells: m.facebook.com/story.php?...402 989&id=272455363101747

20%-36% of cell lines scientists are using are contaminated or misidentified: www.statnews.com/2016/07/21/studies-wrong-cells/

Still going to vaccinate? Let's hope that you are getting real vaccines – not alcohol & cat saliva! : www.wandtv.com/…/doctor-concocts-his-own-vaccines-wi…

SV40 cancer virus that infected 98 million Americans in the polio vaccine: www.sv40foundation.org

Development of vaccines from aborted fetuses: cogforlife.org/ …/upl…/2012/04/farnsworthvaccines.pdf

DNA mutations from fetal cell lines in vaccines: soundchoice.org/research/

WALVAX2 (fetal cells): www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/ pubmed/25803132/

Ethics behind WALVAX2: ethicalresearch.net/…/the-ethics-of-the-walvax-2-ce…/

PBS on how vital fetal cells are for vaccine development: www.pbs.org/…/medical-researchers-say-fetal-tissue-…

Vaccine Failure & Shedding- Mumps outbreak – all vaccinated: m.huffpost.c om/us/entry/us_57276bc7e4b0b49df6abc402

Measles outbreak in a fully immunized school: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/ 3821823

Measles outbreak among the vaccinated: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/ 8053748

New York measles outbreak linked to vaccinated: cid.oxfordjournals.org/conte…/ …/2014/02/27/cid.ciu105

Vaccinated child responsible for measles outbreak in British Columbia: www.eurosurveillance.org/ …/dy…/EE/V18N49/art20649.pdf

Mumps outbreak in Netherlands linked to those vaccinated: wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/20/4/13-1681_article

Vaccinated student in Cali diagnosed with mumps: www.nbcsandiego.com/…/Cal-State-San-Marcos-Student-D…

What's shedding? : insidevaccines.com/…/secondary-trans…/comment-page-1/

98% vaccinated in pertussis outbreak: www.activistpost.com/…/98-vaccinated-involved-in-who…

Vaccine-related polio outbreak in Syria 2017: www.statnews.com/2017/…/08/polio-outbreak-syria-who/

More vaccine failure – pertussis outbreak in vaccinated children: wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/22/2/pdfs/15-0325.pdf

Pertussis outbreak in San Diego – 621 people & 85% were vaccinated – MORE vaccine failure: www.kpbs.org/…/immunized-people-getting-whooping-co…/

Largest measles epidemic in North America in the last decade occurred in 2011 in Quebec where 1 & 2 dose vaccine coverage among children 3 years of age were 95%-97%: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/p ubmed/23264672/

Hib outbreak – 363/443 (82%) were vaccinated: jid.oxfordjournals .org/content/188/4/481.full

The Emerging risks of live virus & virus vectored vaccines: www.nvic.org/…/Live-Virus-Vaccines-and-Vaccine-Shedd…

What's shedding? : insidevaccines.com/…/secondary-trans…/comment-page-1/

Small Pox vaccine sheds to infant from parent (military personnel): mobile.reuters. com/article/idUSN1744524120070518

WWG1WWA  posted on  2019-03-12   8:23:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: All (#34)

Everyone infected in this whooping cough outbreak was up to date on vaccinations: fox13now.com/…/19-kids-in-summit-co-diagnosed-with-…/ & this outbreak too: myfox8.com/…/13-cases-of-whooping-cough-confirmed-i…/

Even the CDC suggests that the vaccinated are an asymptomatic reservoir for infection: wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/6/5/00-0512_article

Mumps outbreak in Netherlands linked to those vaccinated with the MMR twice: wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/20/4/13-1681_article

Pertussis outbreak in California - "Our unvaccinated & undervaccinated population did not appear to contribute significantly to the increased rate of clinical pertussis. Surprisingly, the highest incidence of disease was among previously vaccinated children aged 8– 12 years.": m.cid.oxfordjo urnals.org/content/54/12/1730.long…

Measles outbreak in a fully immunized population: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/ 3821823

49% of children vaccinated STILL got pertussis: www.cdc.gov/…/pertuss-surv-report-2016-provisional.…

You may be surprised to learn that fully vaccinated children & adults can still be infected, paralyzed & transmit polio. Here are two cases in particular that may grab your interest-

"Outbreak of paralytic poliomyelitis in Oman: evidence for widespread transmission among fully vaccinated children" : www.popline.org/node/315407#.d puf

"Oral polio vaccine-associated paralysis in a child despite previous immunization with inactivated vaccine." : www.virology.ws/…/oral-polio-vaccine-associated-par…/

Mutant strains of polio vaccine now causing more paralysis than wild polio: www.npr.org/…/mutant-strains-of-polio-vaccine-now-c…

Polio vaccine causing polio again: www.cnn.com/…/…/polio-papua-new-guinea-bn/index.html

Polio vaccine contaminated with HFM virus: healthfreedomidaho.org/polio-vaccine-sheds-hfmd

Stories-

Healthy babies don't just die: m.facebook.com/story.php?...421 160&id=272455363101747

Triplets vaccine injury story: www.facebo ok.com/wearevaxxed/videos/354597028220913/

Vaccines killed her son: m.facebook.com/story.php?...377 186&id=272455363101747

A-Z injury stories: www.followingvaccinations.com /home

Her daughter was killed by her 1 y vaccines: m.facebook.com/story.php?...328 362&id=272455363101747

The story of Nikie's daughter (be prepared to cry): www.facebook.com/story.ph...352637 16989&id=1196380373

Colton's story: m.youtube.com/watch? v=CHYmb9Hwj4A&feature=share

Mom accused of shaking her baby because he suffered from encephalitis due to the DPT vaccine www.facebo ok.com/wearevaxxed/videos/505673969779884/ Jess's story: www.facebook.com/…/a.332188263574…/554864934640298/…

Holly died after her kindergarten boosters: hopefromholly.com/blog/

Baby Ian’s story - hep B reaction: www.iansvoice.org/

Baby Aniya was vaccine overdosed: www.gofundme.com/62bev-raising-money-for-aniyas-inj…

$101 million dollar settlement for an infant that suffered a severe reaction to MMR: www.mctlawyers.com/101-million-dollar-vaccine-inju…/

Two, one year olds die immediately after MMR: www.msn.com/…/samoa-recalls-vaccines-af…/ar-AAzOvrF…

Krystle’s 13.5 month old son passed away the day he received his flu vaccine: www.facebo ok.com/wearevaxxed/videos/489700951377186/

SIDS- Infanrix lists SIDS as an adverse reaction. Page 12, line 250: www.fda.gov/ …/vaccin…/approvedproducts/ucm124514.pdf

SIDS: truthkings.com/dirty-secret-behind-infant-mortalit…/# Interesting as the doctor found many SIDS cases to have inflammation &/or infection in the inner ear… & the vaccine inserts I have read have listed "otitis media" (medical term for ear infection) as a possible adverse event: www.seattlechildrens.org/…/sto…/listening-to-a-hunch/

Family compensated for SIDS of their 4 m/o son: ecf.cofc.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc… SIDS DID NOT EXIST BEFORE THE VACCINE PROGRAM STARTED-NOW THE US HAS THE HIGHEST INFANT MORTALITY RATE IN THE INDUSTRIALIZED

WORLD TO GO WITH THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF VACCINES GIVEN!!!! thinktwice.com/sids.htm

WWG1WWA  posted on  2019-03-12   8:24:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: WWG1WWA, Deckard, Gatlin, Grand Island, Pinguinite (#34)

Measles outbreak in a fully immunized school: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/ 3821823

Measles outbreak among the vaccinated: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/ 8053748

New York measles outbreak linked to vaccinated: cid.oxfordjournals.org/conte…/ …/2014/02/27/cid.ciu105

Vaccinated child responsible for measles outbreak in British Columbia: www.eurosurveillance.org/ …/dy…/EE/V18N49/art20649.pdf

Mumps outbreak in Netherlands linked to those vaccinated: wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/20/4/13-1681_article

Vaccinated student in Cali diagnosed with mumps: www.nbcsandiego.com/…/Cal-State-San-Marcos-Student-D…

I notice these mentions of ineffective vaccination programs and the occasional batch of vaccine, sometimes numbering millions of doses, that have to be recalled because they are contaminated in some way. They had such a recall in Europe, like Hungary, some years back. So there are such things as bad batches of vaccine, nearly always caught in time in First World countries. But no one ever promised perfect manufacturing of known vaccines. And the manufacturers have some leeway in vaccine design under FDA rules.

But one can look back and point out exactly these shortcomings for the polio vaccine. There were similar outbreaks of polio among those vaccinated, including entire schools or communities. There were also occasional bad batches of vaccine that produced some tragic results.

However, none of that changes the fact that we have virtually eradicated polio.

In 2018, there were 21 cases of wild (infected naturally) polio in Afghanistan and 12 cases in Pakistan. No other country had any reported cases of wild polio infection. There were a larger number of 103 cases of polio which is vaccine-induced polio, meaning they got the polio from being vaccinated with a polio vaccine. Again, that is the number worldwide.

So: in 2018, there were 33 cases of naturally-occurring polio worldwide - but only in Afghanistan and Pakistan - along with 103 cases of vaccine-induced polio worldwide.

This is despite the fact that there were failures in the polio vaccination programs, including bad batches of polio vaccine and places with significant outbreaks of polio in fully-vaccinated populations.

Maybe we should also talk about the success of the smallpox vaccination program. That's a disease - another scourge of humanity since ancient times - that we just don't have around any more, thanks to global vaccination programs, many of them funded by America and Europe primarily.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-03-12   10:14:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Pinguinite (#27)

The implicit but undeniable message in their proposed censorship is that Freedom of Speech has run its course and should no longer be considered a Constitutionally Protected Right.

Yup.

The anti-free speech/censorship message from FB, Twitter, YouTube, etal is indeed implicit and undeniable. They obviously gotten a wink and clear blessing from Almighty Gummint and congress to ignore the US Constitution and permission to quash dissent of "The Official Fairy Tale."

According to Facebook, people are officially too stupid to hear alternative viewpoints.

Well, that too. The additional rest of the story:

Truth-Exposed indicts and convicts the Elites in High Places as criminals and gangstas plotting murder and mayhem against the "peons."

Liberator  posted on  2019-03-12   12:34:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: WWG1WWA, Tooconservative, Pinguinite, Deckard, hondo68 (#34)

Lawsuit determines that federally required safety studies have not been performed in 30 years:

icandecide.org/…/ICAN-HHS-Stipulated-Order-July-2018…

Vaccine requirements for work/school by state:

www.nvic.org/Vaccine…/state-vaccine-requirements.aspx

New York measles outbreak linked to vaccinated:

cid.oxfordjournals.org/conte…/ …/2014/02/27/cid.ciu105

Pertussis outbreak in San Diego – 621 people & 85% were vaccinated – MORE vaccine failure:

www.kpbs.org/…/immunized-people-getting-whooping-co…/

Development of vaccines from aborted fetuses:

cogforlife.org/ …/upl…/2012/04/farnsworthvaccines.pdf

SV40 cancer virus that infected 98 million Americans in the polio vaccine:

www.sv40foundation.org

Nice work, WWG1WWA.

On one hand, CDC oversight on vaccination ingredients and potential dangers is...SORELY LACKING...

...YET, work/school requirements FOR multiple vaccines IS MANDATED. WHY??

Q: Why is Abortion/Baby-Murder declared a matter of "personal choice" by SCOTUS, but NOT a matter of personal choice for proven unsafe, unnecessary, under-regulated Vaccines??

Liberator  posted on  2019-03-12   12:51:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Tooconservative (#36) (Edited)

...There are such things as bad batches of vaccine, nearly always caught in time in First World countries.

Unfortunately, not enough are caught in time. Thus MANY lives have been ruined. Might I add, WITH IMPUNITY.

Maybe we should also talk about the success of the smallpox vaccination program.

Ok. Let's agree that Smallpox vax have indeed been successful, ergo important.

Liberator  posted on  2019-03-12   12:53:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Pinguinite, hondo68, Deckard, TooConservative, ALL (#11)

FOUND ONE VID that did not make it to the chopping block YET. As I'd stated yesterday, most documentation of this event has already been censored and purged. BUT NOT THIS ONE.

Check out that "Flu-Shot" vax Golden Globe stunt I'd referred to; Bwaahaa! Watching the shock of so-called celebrities as they are trapped, held captive to accept their needle was...priceless. (Winds up as a metaphor for the rest of us, doesn't it?)

**Notice how a joke was made out of this bizarre is stunt? It was used to distract from just how creepy this was.**

Since when has ANY live "entertainment" show used to promote and administer (of ALL things)...Flu Shots and VACCINATIONS?? THIS wasn't about helping us, but about INDOCTRINATION, PROGRAMMING, and FUTURE COMPLIANCE.

(*Please do listen in on this vlogger's deconstruction on not only this stunt but the ongoing dark agenda and programming/conditioning techniques of The Elites to dumb down and coerce society through pop culture.)

Liberator  posted on  2019-03-12   13:25:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Liberator, priviledged immunity for Big Pharma, we foot the bill (#38)

The very existence of a special Vaccine Court which pays out Taxpayer Monies to cover vaccine settlements, shows how corrupt our government support of Big Pharma is.

Why the hell should we pay to protect against drug pushers reckless business practices?


Hondo68  posted on  2019-03-12   14:55:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Tooconservative (#36)

Yes, smallpox has been largely successful.

I began to look into health and cures when a good friend was diagnosed with polimyositis. She is dying, painfully and slowly. I'm always on the lookout for info on that. There is no cure. Steroids extend some longevity, but do nothing to stop eventual death. She also suffers from other health issues.

I've run across material on metals & chemicals that are in almost every item we take and use, including vaccines. Soap, cleaners, food, water, shampoo, make-up, etc. Chemicals used in flooring, carpets, wood items, laminates, etc. Aluminum and boron sprayed in the air we breathe. Barium, fluoride, aluminum, mercury, etc. We can't avoid them.

My real concern is chemical and metal build-up in us over time. These are in all the things we use repeatedly and have for years and years. Why is aluminum in toothpaste? Deodorants? Hairspray?

So much metallic and chemical usage makes me wonder if it isn't responsible for so many of the diseases we see today. So many people now affected. When I was young, it was rare to hear of disease. People basically died of "old age." Now, cancer and auto-immune disease seems to affect a large portion of the people i know. It's rare to hear of a healthy senior. Why is that?

Long term studies on this are needed. It won't happen because elites want a smaller, containable population, not to mention the massive profits they enjoy at our expense.

I believe it is pervasive and intentional. I'm with Liberator on this.

WWG1WWA  posted on  2019-03-13   4:19:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: All (#42)

Forgot to add that my friend was healthy until she turned 50, then BAM! It started, one thing after another. Heart problems, rheumatism, MS, & Poli.

WWG1WWA  posted on  2019-03-13   4:37:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: WWG1WWA (#43)

I began to look into health and cures when a good friend was diagnosed with polimyositis.

She is dying, painfully and slowly. I'm always on the lookout for info on that. There is no cure. Steroids extend some longevity, but do nothing to stop eventual death. She also suffers from other health issues.

Forgot to add that my friend was healthy until she turned 50, then BAM! It started, one thing after another. Heart problems, rheumatism, MS, & Poli.

Sorry to hear of your friend's heartbreaking disease. I looked up, Polymyositis. The symptoms make it a really difficult disease. Sounds to me like severe DNA damage (job/environment.) 50 yo is relatively young. Too young.

You are a thoughtful friend. I pray that somehow a cure is discovered, or at least her degree of suffering is abated.

I hope she is a person of faith. This life is not The End.

Liberator  posted on  2019-03-13   13:28:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: WWG1WWA (#42)

I've run across material on metals & chemicals that are in almost every item we take and use, including vaccines. Soap, cleaners, food, water, shampoo, make-up, etc. Chemicals used in flooring, carpets, wood items, laminates, etc. Aluminum and boron sprayed in the air we breathe. Barium, fluoride, aluminum, mercury, etc. We can't avoid them.

My real concern is chemical and metal build-up in us over time. These are in all the things we use repeatedly and have for years and years. Why is aluminum in toothpaste? Deodorants? Hairspray?

So much metallic and chemical usage makes me wonder if it isn't responsible for so many of the diseases we see today.

Excellent observations. And...conclusions.

Speaking of deodorant, I've noticed the content of Aluminum is up to 23% for "72 HR of Protection". There IS a price to pay for that as well as other metal-toxins that are NOT regulated and NOT reported. Hairspray? Yes, that as well.

Add the amount of ubiquitous toxic plastics and "non-stick" cookware we've all been exposed to. These unnecessary, toxic vaccinations are but insurance by te Elites to cull the world's population.

Conclusion: WE ARE INDEED BEING POISONED. PURPOSELY. BY THE ELITES.

Liberator  posted on  2019-03-13   13:35:49 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: hondo68 (#41)

The very existence of a special Vaccine Court which pays out Taxpayer Monies to cover vaccine settlements, shows how corrupt our government support of Big Pharma is.

True. This is unbelievable.

Liberator  posted on  2019-03-13   13:36:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: WWG1WWA, hondo68, All (#45)

I would also add...and submit that the US Gummint has indeed *knowingly* exposed those serving in the Armed Forces to all kinds of biological and chemical toxins, as well as (especially) RADIATION POISONING.

From the late 1940s, through the 1950s, through every war since he Korean War, our servicemen have been exposed to high levels of nuclear and biological contamination. Our feckless "leaders" knowingly and purposely harm us with zero sense of regret, remorse, or moral conscience.

Moreover, now the general populace is being heavily sprayed under the guise of so-called "Weather Modification." Authoritahs finally admit it, but frame this Franken-Weather as benign and benevolent to mankind in that it supposedly "helps" it rain while "controlling" storms and hurricanes. The fact is THE OPPOSITE is the case.

Let's not also forget that toxic stews of aerosols, aka Chemtrails regularly infuse the air, the rain, our livestock & crops, as well as every cell in our body, severely damaging our DNA, presumably shortening our lifespan.

Murderous, baby-killing/tissue-robbing Elite ghouls do NOT want nor need tens of millions of "useless" older Baby-Boomers "stealing" *their* resources.

Liberator  posted on  2019-03-13   13:53:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Pinguinite, tooconservative (#27)

The implicit but undeniable message in their proposed censorship is that Freedom of Speech has run its course and should no longer be considered a Constitutionally Protected Right. It is instead relegated to a bygone era because more harm is done to society when it is permitted in the digital age.

According to Facebook, people are officially too stupid to hear alternative viewpoints.

SOCIAL MEDIA On Facebook, anti-vaxxers urged a mom not to give her son Tamiflu. He later died. https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/facebook-anti-vaxxers-pushed-mom- not-give-her-son-tamiflu-n1131936

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-02-08   21:20:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Liberator (#37)

Yup.

The anti-free speech/censorship message from FB, Twitter, YouTube, etal is indeed implicit and undeniable. They obviously gotten a wink and clear blessing from Almighty Gummint and congress to ignore the US Constitution and permission to quash dissent of "The Official Fairy Tale

If you were the dumb ass on Facebook telling this woman not go buy tamiflu. She should be able to sue you right?

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-02-08   21:23:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: A K A Stone (#48)

SOCIAL MEDIA On Facebook, anti-vaxxers urged a mom not to give her son Tamiflu.

Would I take this to mean you are in favor of bicycle helmet laws, seat belt laws and such, and subscribe to the philosophy that "if just one life is saved", that the was was worth it?

For all we know, that boy could have died with or without Tamaflu. People live or die every day based on very basic decisions such as whether to go to the store or not. So the ends does not justify the means. Information should not be censored or controlled by a mega corp that purports to know all the world's facts better than anyone else.

Pinguinite  posted on  2020-02-09   20:06:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Pinguinite (#50)

Would I take this to mean you are in favor of bicycle helmet laws, seat belt laws and such,

Nope that would be stupid. Apples and oranges.

But if there is a group that is anti vaxers and they proclaim themselves to be experts and are warning you it is dangerous to take tamiflu and you should give them some healthy food and the person dies. I think they should be held liable just like a doctor that said the same thing. Put them in jail for manslaughter. They are idiots and wrecklessly endanger the lives of people.

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-02-09   21:13:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: A K A Stone (#51)

So if someone stupidly takes advice from people on the internet, and get hurt, it's the fault of those who gave the advice, and not the person that took the advice.

Do you still believe in the First Amendment? Do you believe that people do not have a right to be wrong about things?

Pinguinite  posted on  2020-02-09   22:14:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Pinguinite (#52)

So if someone stupidly takes advice from people on the internet, and get hurt, it's the fault of those who gave the advice,

Yep just like in real life. If they present them selves as "experts" and say taking what a legitimate doctor prescribed would harm them then they offer alternative treatment that leads to death. Yes they should be prosecuted for manslaughter.

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-02-09   23:27:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Pinguinite, misterwhite (#50)

People live or die every day based on very basic decisions

I'm sure misterwhite would use that line that "people live and die every day" in response to you defending some drug criminal the cops killed because he acted stupid.

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-02-09   23:29:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Pinguinite (#52)

Do you still believe in the First Amendment?

Yes I do. Do you think you can say anything you want? Can you say you are a doctor and tell someone to take something or do something that results in their death without consequences?

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-02-09   23:31:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Pinguinite (#52)

Should you be able to practice medicine without a license?

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-02-09   23:44:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: A K A Stone (#56)

Should you be able to practice medicine without a license?

I think the statistic is there are over 100,000 patient deaths in the US each year due to mistakes made by their licensed medical professionals. If you want to prosecute non doctors for things they say on the internet, would you also support prosecuting licensed medical professionals (nurses included) for mistakes of whatever sort, including diagnosis and treatment, when their patients die as a result?

I guess we'll agree to disagree. I don't know the details of the case you cite, but people should be legally protected and free to express their opinions about what is good and bad medical treatment. I don't want to live in a world where everyone has a Constitutional right to do stupid things *without* risk of injury. I don't want to live in a world where people lack critical thinking skills because they were taught that they can believe anything anyone tells them. And that is the world you are advocating.

Pinguinite  posted on  2020-02-10   1:22:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Pinguinite (#57)

I think the statistic is there are over 100,000 patient deaths in the US each year due to mistakes made by their licensed medical professionals. If you want to prosecute non doctors for things they say on the internet, would you also support prosecuting licensed medical professionals (nurses included) for mistakes of whatever sort, including diagnosis and treatment, when their patients die as a result?

I guess we'll agree to disagree. I don't know the details of the case you cite, but people should be legally protected and free to express their opinions about what is good and bad medical treatment. I don't want to live in a world where everyone has a Constitutional right to do stupid things *without* risk of injury. I don't want to live in a world where people lack critical thinking skills because they were taught that they can believe anything anyone tells them. And that is the world you are advocating.

Doctors and nurses already are held accountable for stuff like that. They get sued all the time.

Maybe my answers are not correct. It isn't my absolute position that I am firm on and would never budge.

Maybe I'm wrong. I just think it is wrong for people who don't know shit to influence people in the wrong direction causing loss of life.

We can't have the answers for everything.

A K A Stone  posted on  2020-02-10   7:45:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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