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Title: Learning The Lesson: Where Our Forefathers Drew The Line!
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Published: Mar 8, 2019
Author: Bradlee Dean
Post Date: 2019-03-10 12:43:15 by Deckard
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Comments: 34
“Rebellion against tyrants is obedience to God.” -Benjamin Franklin How many times I have had to reiterate that “We the People” in this country are the government (Preamble to the US Constitution), and those who are to serve “We the People” “derive their just powers from the consent of the governed,” and that they do, in fact, work for YOU Americans, and not you for them! Americans, are you not sick and tired of being sick and tired concerning the scandals, the lies and watch as justice is left undone and crime runs rampant? Are you not tired of seeing repeat offenders that act like demi-gods, who live like they are above the laws, the laws that they are to uphold and enforce? Then there is all of this propaganda raining down upon the American people by the CIA-controlled media that less than 6% of Americans say they believe, where they are continuously magnifying the crimes of the corrupt without justice, instead of magnifying the laws against the crimes that they are guilty of committing. Then there is all of this propaganda raining down upon the American people by the CIA-controlled media that less than 6% of Americans say they believe, where they are continuously magnifying the crimes of the corrupt without justice, instead of magnifying the laws against the crimes that they are guilty of committing. Representatives operate from authority within their scope of delegated authority, which came from God, that “We the people” give them. When they begin to operate outside of that delegated authority, it is for the same government, “We the People,” to remove them from violating that perspective position which was entrusted to them to operate within (Article 2, Section 4, US Constitution) Now, the sheeple in this country coral themselves together and act as if it is for the criminal politicians, who are violating the enumerated laws, to correct themselves when acting out in such a criminal fashion (John 8:44). That is just not going to happen. It is for “We the People” to take responsibility to right the wrongs. Look at President Thomas Jefferson’s words when he addressed corruption within government capacity, "The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first." “The strength of the Constitution lies in the will of the people to defend it.” -Thomas Edison Why was it that the American forefathers and founders would draw up such a document as the Declaration of Independence, which said such things as: “When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation? That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world." England engaged in a “long train of abuses and usurpations" against the colonies. Conclusion: The King was “unfit to be ruler of a free people.” The Colonists’ efforts to resolve grievances peaceably went unheeded. If you look to the usurpations and transgressions of the King that would not be ruled by God, you can clearly see that Americans today have far surpassed that which our forefathers tolerated. In response, they declared, “These United Colonies are, and of Right, ought to be Free and Independent States…” from tyranny (1 KINGS 18:18) They had a “firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence.” To further solidify the point, in 1776, a short time after the Declaration of Independence was adopted, the same committee that was assigned to draft the text of the Declaration – Thomas Jefferson, John Adams and Benjamin Franklin – were also assigned to design an official seal for the United States of America. Benjamin Franklin’s proposal is preserved in a note in his own handwriting: Moses standing on the Shore, and extending his Hand over the Sea, thereby causing the same to overwhelm Pharaoh, who is sitting in an open Chariot, a Crown on his Head and a Sword in his Hand. Rays from a Pillar of Fire in the Clouds reaching to Moses, to express that he acts by Command of the Deity. The Motto inscribed on the Seal was “Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God” (First Committee’s Design for the Great Seal). John Adams later described Jefferson’s depiction of the Great Seal: “Mr. Jefferson proposed: The children of Israel in the wilderness, led by a pillar of cloud by day, and a pillar of fire by night, and on the other side Hengist and Horsa, the Saxon chiefs, from whom we claim the honour of being descended and whose political principles and form of government we have assumed.” We can see clearly that King George was not ruled by God in his role as the king and because of that, the founders threw him off. How is the remedy to be applied in any other way in America to the absolute tyranny of today’s politicians outside of what our forefathers exhibited and taught (Hebrews 11:34; 13:7)? We can see that our representatives are not upholding the law, but rather are tearing it down on a daily basis through their willful and deliberate transgressions (I John 3:4), which is illegal. This clearly defines them as outlaws and criminals. To stand back and act as if this is not purposed in the destruction of this country, as well as the stripping Americans of their God-given rights, falls to the side of ignorance and to that of their own demise, which in the end, makes them slaves once again (Deuteronomy 28:68). Poster Comment: Look at President Thomas Jefferson’s words when he addressed corruption within government capacity, "The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first."
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#1. To: Deckard (#0)
I see the fear in people who say they believe government is the servant of citizen, if you bring up being Sovereign. In the American system the individual is the sovereign, those elected are the serfs. It is simple to my mind. To others, they just don't get how I can feel that if we are loaning the power of the military forces or the police to patrol and enforce law, we are not giving it away. We still retain those rights, they are inherent within us. We should be allowed to have fully automatic rifles, we should have full authority to arrest and detain criminals. The law is what we collectively say it is, not the elected telling us what the law is. This philosophy would change the relationship between government and "people" in a very positive way.
THIS IS A TAG LINE...Exercising rights is only radical to two people, Tyrants and Slaves. Which are YOU? Our ignorance has driven us into slavery and we do not recognize it.
Where? It happened when Deckard posted: “Look at President Thomas Jefferson’s words when he addressed corruption within government capacity,”
lol... you’re a kook.
I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
I cannot understand why Deckard feels he does not want to waste time doing actual research. There seems no end to his loathsome Paultard tactics. He made up some quote in his “Poster Comment” here and attributed it to Thomas Jefferson probably expecting that others will pick it up and repeat it without knowing (or even caring) it’s false. There is no end to his cunning deceitfulness and amateurish use of underhanded tactics to achieve his anti- government and cop hating goals. Stooping to make up a quote by Thomas Jefferson is a new low. So dishonorable and despicable …
Still true, no matter who said it.
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. Quite a few folks here just don't get that and in fact believe just the opposite. Two of them have already posted on this thread. Their way of thinking is that of slaves.
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. Do you agree with this? That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. Deckard: “Look at President Thomas Jefferson’s words when he addressed corruption within government capacity:” Jefferson never wrote: "The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first." Jefferson did write: “Let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the constitution.” I found Jefferson wrote that in The Papers of Thomas Jefferson (The Papers of Thomas Jefferson, Volume 30: 1 January 1798 to 31 January 1799), but this sentiment is far from the misquote you are trying to pass off here to fit your anti-government agenda. Had you, Deckard, done proper research you would have learned that Monticello.org lists 2002 as the first appearance of this misquote in print. But hey, he's just one of our nation's founders! Right? So why in the hell do we need to care about what he actually said? You think that you can just continue make shit up to fit your anti-government agenda. You do it all the time. There is nothing new here about you doing that all the time. In order for you to perhaps more clearly understand this time, I will repeat that the quotation you presented cannot been found in any of Thomas Jefferson's writings. It is to be noted that he did, however, employ the phrase "chains of the Constitution" at least once, in the Kentucky Resolutions of 1798" What you shamefully did was use a conflation of Jefferson's "chains of the Constitution" comment added with Ayn Rand's statement in her essay, Man's Rights: "There are two potential violators of man’s rights: the criminals and the government.’ That was smartly done, Deckard – Smartly done. My compliments for your nice try. Yep, quite ingenious, Deckard. But you cannot slip things by the “old sage” [which you have so respectfully and correctly named me] and you should have long ago learned not to try. You really need to STOP with the Paultard libertarian extremities you go to where you create lies to support your anti-government agenda.
Stop with the “deflection.” You concocted a quote you falsely attributed to Thomas Jefferson. That was shamefully dishonest of you. Make your apology for your fraudulent activity here and now.
Still true no matter who said it. the “old sage” [which you have so respectfully and correctly named me] Sarcasm continues to elude you. Ayn Rand: "There are two potential violators of man’s rights: the criminals and the government.’ Would you agree? anti-government agenda. Like the agenda of the men who wrote this? That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. Stop with the “deflection.” I'll take that as a NO.
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. Do you want in on this, Stoner? And now treat Deckard the same as you treated me the time you tried to jump all over my ass when you “thought” I had made a mistake – and I proved I had not. Do you want to attack Deckard for his deceitful action here? Why do I suspect you cowardly Deckard ass kisser will not?
The quote was in the article - I didn't "concoct" anything you pettifogging little troll.
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. You'll take your shame to hell with you for lying when you made up a quote and attributed it to Thomas Jefferson - That's what you will take from this.
Ignore this troll Gatlin. It's not worth the time.
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. The quote was in the article - I didn't "concoct" anything you pettifogging little troll. Then you dumb Paultard bastard, why did you not fact check it before you repeated the lie and stressed it for emphasis.? You are so pathetically ignorant …
The quote was IN THE ARTICLE. I didn't make up anything. You have a problem, take it up with the author. Man, you are so desperate to avoid discussing the actual article that you whine about a quote that was mis-attributed.
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. Typical - you've run out of arguments. Buh bye.
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. It's not worth the time. Yea. Like you continue to ignore the truth and blindly post the lie of others when you intentionally posted a misquote by Thomas Jefferson for your rogue agenda reasons because you think no one will catch it. Ah, but the “old sage” did. Didn’t he? Yes, he did. Repent now – Begin fact-checking immediately.
I have “NO” arguments tp run out of. I merely pointed out your deceitful conduct for all to see. Yea – “Buh bye.” You post as you slither away like some lowly snake without the common decency to admit you with malice aforethought attempted to pass off a quote by Thomas Jefferson that was not his. Shameful – Disgraceful … How can you live with yourself?
#2. To: Gatlin, hondo68 (#1) Seriosly? You have the chutzpah to criticize others for making shit up, and here you go completely changing the statement in the original post just so you can bore us with another of your delusional long-winded screeds about your twisted beliefs concerning libertarians. Here's the ORIGINAL sentence: Eric July will be speaking with Ron Paul, Ben Swann, Judge Nap, Larkin Rose, Mark Passio and others at AnarchApulco in Acapulco, Mexico - February 2020. Man, you're a real hypocritical piece of work
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. Eric July will be explaining what libertarianism is to Ron Paul ...
You are such a dumbass … This deflection is fun, and I thoroughly enjoy participating in the back and forth. But still – It makes no one forget that you POSTED a LIE about Thomas Jefferson. Now – Gracefully admit your mistake and let’s be done with this.
In other words, you changed the original post. There is nothing there indicating what you implied. You lied in order to post another of your worthless missives about libertarians. That makes you a complete asshole.
Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. The only mistake I made was thinking that you are anything but a worthless troll. Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. You ladies need some Midol?
Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
The only mistake I made was thinking that you are anything but a worthless troll. Come one now – It’s so easy to do. Just apologetically and politely admit you posted a erroneous quote you incorrectly attributed to Thomas Jefferson. Ignrance is not an unforgivable sin – You will be forgiven for your stupid mistake and we can move on to making America greater which is something we could better be spending time on.
You need to butt out ...
Speaking is Explaining - Look it up, you stupid Paultard.
Please ping me when you are able to come to grips with yourself and admit the gross injustice you did by posting a lie. BTW - Following more diligent research, I found this quotation of the day on the two enemies of the people….
What you did was DELIBERATELY LIE you miserable bastard. Try and rationalize it all you want. I posted an article with a mis-attributed quote, big deal, I'm sure it's happened to all of us at one time or another. You on the other hand changed the original sentence in hondo's piece to further your delusional hatred of those who seek liberty. Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen. Informative Speaking is Explaining – They are synonyms. Synonym: Give up your evil and misguided ways – Repent – Admit you posted a quote that was not correct. Move on – While remembering: Let the glow of your warm thought this moment come from your admittance of the heinous error you made when you posted an incorrect quote by Thomas Jefferson.
Deckard, your cardinal sin here is one you always commit over and over. You read something you want to believe and you believe it without ever making any fact check. Then you decide how you can best use that information which turns out to be faulty. You really need to stop doing this. Instead of making lots of nonsensical posts containing many lies – you would better yourself making by making far less posts while having them all contain correct information though proper fact checking.
Oh so Midol isn't strong enough maybe some Pamprin MAX might help? You remind me of a woman, getting into conversations you know nothing about and interjecting little tidbits of trivia to try to BS the others into thinking you do know something. (Psst, the problem is the others know better, shhhhhh). My bozo number has been like a yoyo since you came back, is this the appropriate place for a LOLAY??
Vegetarians eat vegetables. Beware of humanitarians!
#2. To: jeremiad, Deckard, Stoner, GrandIsland, A K A Stone (#1)
I see the fear in people who say …
Since you are so preceptive and have such great vision, then surely through your excellent foresight you can see the lie where Deckard posted a quote by Thomas Jefferson that was not real. "The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first."
#3. To: jeremiad (#1)
law is what we collectively say it is, not the elected telling us what the law is.
#4. To: GrandIsland (#3)
#5. To: Gatlin, jeremiad, GrandIsland (#2)
"The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first."
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#6. To: jeremiad (#1)
In the American system the individual is the sovereign, those elected are the serfs.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#7. To: Gatlin, GrandIsland (#4)
anti- government
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#8. To: Deckard, GrandIsland, A K A Stone, Stoner (#0)
The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first.
That is a most interesting quote, Deckard, and it is very telling about you as you attempt to make it one of the Founding Fathers view of government. However, it is most unfortunate that it's just not real. All of those words in your quote are not the words only by Thomas Jefferson. You used a partial quote by Thomas Jefferson and added a partial quote by Ayn Rand.
#9. To: Deckard (#7)
Do you agree with this?
#10. To: Gatlin (#8)
The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#11. To: Gatlin (#9)
Do you agree with this?
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#12. To: Stoner (#9)
#13. To: Gatlin (#9)
You concocted a quote you falsely attributed to Thomas Jefferson.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#14. To: Deckard (#11)
I'll take that as a NO.
#15. To: Stoner (#12)
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#16. To: Deckard (#13)
You concocted a quote you falsely attributed to Thomas Jefferson.
#17. To: All (#15)
you made up a quote and attributed it to Thomas Jefferson
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#18. To: Gatlin (#16)
you dumb Paultard bastard,
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#19. To: Deckard (#15)
Ignore this troll Gatlin.
#20. To: Deckard (#18)
you dumb Paultard bastard,
Typical - you've run out of arguments.
Buh bye.
#21. To: Gatlin (#20)
(Edited)
Eric July will be explaining what libertarianism is to Ron Paul, Ben Swann, Judge Nap, Larkin Rose, Mark Passio and others at AnarchApulco in Acapulco, Mexico - February 2020.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#22. To: Deckard (#21)
#23. To: Deckard (#21)
(Edited)
Eric July will be speaking with Ron Paul about libertarianism …
Introduction to Informative Speaking: An informative speech makes a complex topic easy to understand or offers a different point of view.
Ergo: Eric July will not be giving Ron Paul a blow job – Eric July will explaining what libertarianism it to Ron Paul.
#24. To: Gatlin (#23)
An informative speech makes a complex topic easy to understand or offers a different point of view.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#25. To: Gatlin (#23)
Gracefully admit your mistake and let’s be done with this.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#26. To: Grumpy Bitches (#0)
#27. To: Deckard (#25)
Gracefully admit your mistake and let’s be done with this.
#28. To: CZ82 (#26)
#29. To: Deckard (#24)
#30. To: Deckard (#29)
(Edited)
#31. To: Gatlin (#29)
(Edited)
Speaking is Explaining
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.
#32. To: Deckard (#31)
(Edited)
A word or phrase that means exactly or nearly the same as another word or phrase in the same language, for example shut is a synonym of close.
You are one hilariously mixed up Paultard – But then all libertarians are. The glow of one warm thought is to me worth more than money.
Extract from Thomas Jefferson to Charles McPherson, 25 Feb. 1773. 
#33. To: Deckard (#31)
#34. To: Gatlin (#28)
(Edited)
You need to butt out ...
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