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Historical Title: Learning The Lesson: Where Our Forefathers Drew The Line! “Rebellion against tyrants is obedience to God.” -Benjamin Franklin How many times I have had to reiterate that “We the People” in this country are the government (Preamble to the US Constitution), and those who are to serve “We the People” “derive their just powers from the consent of the governed,” and that they do, in fact, work for YOU Americans, and not you for them! Americans, are you not sick and tired of being sick and tired concerning the scandals, the lies and watch as justice is left undone and crime runs rampant? Are you not tired of seeing repeat offenders that act like demi-gods, who live like they are above the laws, the laws that they are to uphold and enforce? Then there is all of this propaganda raining down upon the American people by the CIA-controlled media that less than 6% of Americans say they believe, where they are continuously magnifying the crimes of the corrupt without justice, instead of magnifying the laws against the crimes that they are guilty of committing. Then there is all of this propaganda raining down upon the American people by the CIA-controlled media that less than 6% of Americans say they believe, where they are continuously magnifying the crimes of the corrupt without justice, instead of magnifying the laws against the crimes that they are guilty of committing. Representatives operate from authority within their scope of delegated authority, which came from God, that “We the people” give them. When they begin to operate outside of that delegated authority, it is for the same government, “We the People,” to remove them from violating that perspective position which was entrusted to them to operate within (Article 2, Section 4, US Constitution) Now, the sheeple in this country coral themselves together and act as if it is for the criminal politicians, who are violating the enumerated laws, to correct themselves when acting out in such a criminal fashion (John 8:44). That is just not going to happen. It is for “We the People” to take responsibility to right the wrongs. Look at President Thomas Jefferson’s words when he addressed corruption within government capacity, "The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first." “The strength of the Constitution lies in the will of the people to defend it.” -Thomas Edison Why was it that the American forefathers and founders would draw up such a document as the Declaration of Independence, which said such things as: “When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation? That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world." England engaged in a “long train of abuses and usurpations" against the colonies. Conclusion: The King was “unfit to be ruler of a free people.” The Colonists’ efforts to resolve grievances peaceably went unheeded. If you look to the usurpations and transgressions of the King that would not be ruled by God, you can clearly see that Americans today have far surpassed that which our forefathers tolerated. In response, they declared, “These United Colonies are, and of Right, ought to be Free and Independent States…” from tyranny (1 KINGS 18:18) They had a “firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence.” To further solidify the point, in 1776, a short time after the Declaration of Independence was adopted, the same committee that was assigned to draft the text of the Declaration – Thomas Jefferson, John Adams and Benjamin Franklin – were also assigned to design an official seal for the United States of America. Benjamin Franklin’s proposal is preserved in a note in his own handwriting: Moses standing on the Shore, and extending his Hand over the Sea, thereby causing the same to overwhelm Pharaoh, who is sitting in an open Chariot, a Crown on his Head and a Sword in his Hand. Rays from a Pillar of Fire in the Clouds reaching to Moses, to express that he acts by Command of the Deity. The Motto inscribed on the Seal was “Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God” (First Committee’s Design for the Great Seal). John Adams later described Jefferson’s depiction of the Great Seal: “Mr. Jefferson proposed: The children of Israel in the wilderness, led by a pillar of cloud by day, and a pillar of fire by night, and on the other side Hengist and Horsa, the Saxon chiefs, from whom we claim the honour of being descended and whose political principles and form of government we have assumed.” We can see clearly that King George was not ruled by God in his role as the king and because of that, the founders threw him off. How is the remedy to be applied in any other way in America to the absolute tyranny of today’s politicians outside of what our forefathers exhibited and taught (Hebrews 11:34; 13:7)? We can see that our representatives are not upholding the law, but rather are tearing it down on a daily basis through their willful and deliberate transgressions (I John 3:4), which is illegal. This clearly defines them as outlaws and criminals. To stand back and act as if this is not purposed in the destruction of this country, as well as the stripping Americans of their God-given rights, falls to the side of ignorance and to that of their own demise, which in the end, makes them slaves once again (Deuteronomy 28:68). Poster Comment: Look at President Thomas Jefferson’s words when he addressed corruption within government capacity, "The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first." Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 10.
#8. To: Deckard, GrandIsland, A K A Stone, Stoner (#0)
Deckard: “Look at President Thomas Jefferson’s words when he addressed corruption within government capacity:” Jefferson never wrote: "The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first." Jefferson did write: “Let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the constitution.” I found Jefferson wrote that in The Papers of Thomas Jefferson (The Papers of Thomas Jefferson, Volume 30: 1 January 1798 to 31 January 1799), but this sentiment is far from the misquote you are trying to pass off here to fit your anti-government agenda. Had you, Deckard, done proper research you would have learned that Monticello.org lists 2002 as the first appearance of this misquote in print. But hey, he's just one of our nation's founders! Right? So why in the hell do we need to care about what he actually said? You think that you can just continue make shit up to fit your anti-government agenda. You do it all the time. There is nothing new here about you doing that all the time. In order for you to perhaps more clearly understand this time, I will repeat that the quotation you presented cannot been found in any of Thomas Jefferson's writings. It is to be noted that he did, however, employ the phrase "chains of the Constitution" at least once, in the Kentucky Resolutions of 1798" What you shamefully did was use a conflation of Jefferson's "chains of the Constitution" comment added with Ayn Rand's statement in her essay, Man's Rights: "There are two potential violators of man’s rights: the criminals and the government.’ That was smartly done, Deckard – Smartly done. My compliments for your nice try. Yep, quite ingenious, Deckard. But you cannot slip things by the “old sage” [which you have so respectfully and correctly named me] and you should have long ago learned not to try. You really need to STOP with the Paultard libertarian extremities you go to where you create lies to support your anti-government agenda.
Still true no matter who said it. the “old sage” [which you have so respectfully and correctly named me] Sarcasm continues to elude you. Ayn Rand: "There are two potential violators of man’s rights: the criminals and the government.’ Would you agree? anti-government agenda. Like the agenda of the men who wrote this? That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
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