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Title: Giving the Bomb to Saudi Arabia’s Dr. Strangelove
Source: Truth Dig
URL Source: https://www.truthdig.com/articles/g ... -saudi-arabias-dr-strangelove/
Published: Mar 5, 2019
Author: Chris Hedges
Post Date: 2019-03-05 16:08:20 by Hondo68
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Keywords: half-wit son-in-law, of the president, Jared Kushner
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The most dangerous foreign policy decision of the Trump administration—and I know this is saying a lot—is its decision to share sensitive nuclear technology with Saudi Arabia and authorize U.S. companies to build nuclear reactors in that country. I spent seven years in the Middle East. I covered the despotic, repressive kingdom as the Middle East bureau chief for The New York Times. And I, along with most Arabists in the United States, have little doubt that giving a nuclear capability to Saudi Arabia under the leadership of the ruthless and amoral Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman would see it embark on a nuclear weapons program and eventually share weaponized technology with Saudi allies and proxies that include an array of radical jihadists and mortal enemies of America. A nuclearized Saudi Arabia is a grave existential threat to the Middle East and ultimately the United States.

The drive to build nuclear reactors in Saudi Arabia is led by the half-wit son-in-law of the president, Jared Kushner, who met Tuesday with Salman in Riyadh, the Saudi capital, to discuss “ways to improve the condition of the entire region through economic investment,” according to the White House. Prominently involved in that economic program are corporations such as IP3 International, a consortium of U.S. companies led by several retired generals and admirals and others who stand to make millions from the deal.

The Saudi government, which is soliciting bids for the nuclear reactors, reportedly spent more than $450,000 over a one-month period to lobby the Trump administration to approve its purchase of the equipment and services from U.S. sources. Westinghouse Electric Co. and other American companies are preparing to construct the facilities, which would allow Saudi Arabia to enrich and reprocess uranium. The secretive effort to give Saudi Arabia a nuclear capability is not only colossally stupid, but has been done without being reviewed by Congress, as required by law, and violates the Atomic Energy Act.

Salman, whose psychopathic traits remind me of Saddam Hussein, is widely believed to have ordered the assassination of journalist Jamal Khashoggi in the Saudi consulate in Istanbul in October 2018. He has imprisoned dissidents, brutally ousted rivals, seized over $100 billion in extortion money from kidnapped and tortured members of the royal family and instilled a level of fear and terror inside the kingdom, always a repressive society, unrivaled in its modern history.

Donald Trump and Kushner, by shamelessly defending Salman, even in the face of CIA declarations that the agency has “high confidence” the prince ordered the killing and dismemberment of the Washington Post journalist, are accessories to murder. Not surprisingly, the White House ignored a deadline this month that the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations set for making a report on Khashoggi’s assassination. Kushner, whom the Saudi leader reportedly claimed to have “in his pocket,” did not appear to have raised the Khashoggi murder in last week’s meeting, the first face-to-face encounter he has had with Salman since the assassination.

Salman has not ruled out weaponizing any nuclear facilities. He stated in 2018: “Without a doubt, if Iran developed a nuclear bomb, we will follow suit as soon as possible.” He has also refused to accept any restrictions on enriching uranium and processing plutonium.

Nuclear weapons can be made from uranium or plutonium. The uranium-235 isotope is used in nuclear reactors and nuclear bombs. However, it is less than 1 percent of the naturally occurring element and must be increased—the process is called enrichment—to about 5 percent to work in nuclear reactors. To make nuclear bombs it must be enriched to about 90 percent. Enrichment is carried out by using high-speed centrifuges. This means that the machines that produce nuclear reactor fuel for civilian use can also be used to produce nuclear bombs. It is for this reason that nuclear material in civilian enrichment facilities in nations that do not have nuclear weapons, or have promised not to produce nuclear weapons, such as Iran, is closely monitored by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

An enrichment plant used to fuel one nuclear reactor has the potential to produce 20 nuclear bombs a year by using some 300 centrifuges to enrich uranium-235 to the 90 percent level. A nuclear bomb requires about 55 pounds of highly enriched uranium. The more high-speed centrifuges a country has, the faster weapons-grade uranium can be produced.

Salman and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu insist there is a secret Iranian nuclear weapons program, despite all intelligence reports, including Israeli intelligence reports, to the contrary. So, given their unique version of reality, the time to start a weapons program in Saudi Arabia is now. Israel has a nuclear arsenal with hundreds of weapons.

Rep. Elijah E. Cummings, the chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Reform, has issued an interim staff report giving testimonies of multiple whistleblowers who warn about the impending transfer of nuclear technology. It lays out in chronological detail the secretive and blatantly illegal efforts by the Trump White House to facilitate Saudi Arabia’s purchase and construction of the nuclear reactors.

The efforts by Saudis and Americans began before Trump took office. Saudi officials, including Khalid Al-Falih, the minister of energy, met with Kushner in New York before the inauguration. The Saudi delegation held out the promise of spending $50 billion on American defense contracts over four years.

IP3 executives Gen. Keith Alexander, Gen. Jack Keane, Bud McFarlane and Rear Adm. Michael Hewitt, as well as the chief executives of six other companies—Exelon, Toshiba America Energy Systems, Bechtel, Centrus Energy, GE Energy Infrastructure and Siemens USA—sent a letter to Salman three weeks before the Trump inauguration that presented a plan to build nuclear reactors in Saudi Arabia. They called it “the Iron Bridge Program,” the report states, and characterized it as “a 21st Century Marshall Plan for the Middle East.”

Michael Flynn, then the incoming national security adviser and one of the former business partners in the venture, sent a text to Alex Copson of ACU Strategic Partners on Inauguration Day assuring him that the nuclear project was “good to go” and suggested that Copson contact his colleagues to “let them know to put things in place,” the report reads.

On Jan. 27, 2017, a week after the inauguration, Derek Harvey, who from January to July 2017 was the senior director for Middle East and North African affairs at the National Security Council, met at the White House with a group of IP3 leaders whom he had invited.

“Immediately after the meeting, Mr. Harvey directed the NSC staff to add information about IP3’s ‘plan for 40 nuclear power plants’ to the briefing package for President Trump’s [planned phone] call with King Salman [the prince’s father and the prime minister of Saudi Arabia],” the report reads. “Mr. Harvey also stated that General Flynn wanted President Trump to raise the ‘plan for 40 nuclear power plants’ with King Salman and that this was the ‘energy plan’ that had been developed and approved by General Flynn during the presidential transition.”

When the NSC staff informed Harvey that the transference of nuclear technology to a foreign country had to comply with the Atomic Energy Act, he dismissed the complaint, saying, in the words of the report, that “the decision to transfer nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia had already been made during the presidential transition and that General Flynn wanted President Trump to raise ‘the nuclear power plants’ with King Salman.”

On Jan. 28, 2017, the report reads, “General Flynn and Deputy National Security Advisor K.T. McFarland received two documents in their official White House email accounts in a message entitled, ‘Launching the Marshall Plan for the Middle East’ from Mr. McFarlane, a co-founder and Director of IP3 and a former national security advisor to President Reagan who pleaded guilty to participating in the Iran-Contra cover-up in 1988.”

The documents included a draft cover memorandum from Flynn to Trump and a draft memorandum “for the President to sign” directing agency heads to lend support to Thomas Barrack—who managed Trump’s inaugural committee and raised funds for Trump and whose investment firm, Colony NorthStar, would profit from the nuclear deal—for the implementation of the IP3 plan.

“The second document was formatted as a Cabinet Memorandum from the President to the Secretaries of State, Defense, Treasury, and Energy; the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency; and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff,” the report reads. “It stated that President Trump had assigned Mr. Barrack as a special representative to oversee implementation of the Middle East Marshall Plan: ‘I have assigned a special representative, Tom Barrack, to lead this important initiative and I am requesting him to engage each of you over the next 30 days to gain your input and support for our Middle East Marshal [sic] Plan.’ ”

On March 14, 2017, Trump, along with Kushner, met with Prince Mohammed bin Salman in the Oval Office. They discussed “a new United States-Saudi program . . . in energy, industry, infrastructure, and technology worth potentially more than $200 billion in direct and indirect investments within the next four years.”

Frances Townsend, a director on IP3’s board, a national security analyst for CBS and a homeland security adviser under President George W. Bush, “contacted White House Homeland Security Advisor Thomas Bossert about the Middle East Marshall Plan” on March 28, 2017, the report reads.

“Ms. Townsend subsequently sent NSC staff several documents: (1) an overview of the Middle East Marshall Plan that appeared to be produced by IP3; (2) a document entitled ‘The Trump Middle East Marshall Plan (White Paper by Tom Barrack)’ dated March 10, 2017; (3) the letter that IP3 leaders Mr. McFarlane, General Keane, Rear Admiral Hewitt, and General Alexander addressed to Saudi Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman on March 17, 2017; and (4) the January 1, 2017, letter to Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman signed by IP3 leaders General Alexander, General Keane, Bud McFarlane, and Rear Admiral Hewitt, as well as the chief executives of six companies: Exelon Corporation, Toshiba Energy, Bechtel Corporation, Centrus, GE Power, and Siemens USA.”

Barrack’s white paper read: “The President will appoint a special representative for the Trump Middle East Marshall Plan with the diplomatic rank of ambassador or special advisor [to] the President.” It also stated, the report reads, that the special envoy should “coordinate and work hand-in-hand” with government officials, including Kushner.

“The white paper stated that the President should implement the Middle East Marshall Plan through an executive order,” the report reads. “It described the Special Envoy as building ‘long-line relationships with U.S. private sector leaders acting as their expediter in clearing the traditional regional and regulatory hurdles to their participation’ and ‘trusted relationships with top leaders of GCC [Gulf Cooperation Council] countries, Israel, Egypt, Jordan, and Iraq.’ ”

The House committee staff report says most of the whistleblowers who spoke to the committee were able to document developments only during the early months of the administration. There have been few recent leaks from inside the White House on the nuclear deal. Secretary of Energy Rick Perry, Kushner and IP3 executives are currently overseeing the project.

“In January 2018, Brookfield Business Partners, a subsidiary of Brookfield Asset Management, announced its plans to acquire Westinghouse Electric for $4.6 billion,” the report notes. “Westinghouse Electric is the bankrupt nuclear services company that is part of IP3’s proposed consortium to build nuclear reactors in Saudi Arabia, and which stands to benefit from the Middle East Marshall Plan. In August 2018, Brookfield Asset Management purchased a partnership stake in 666 Fifth Avenue, a building owned by Jared Kushner’s family company.”

“On February 27, 2018, Goldman Sachs announced that former Deputy National Security Advisor Dina Powell, who had helped manage Jared Kushner’s relationship with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and plan President Trump’s 2017 visit to Saudi Arabia, would be joining the Goldman Sachs’ sovereign wealth group,” the report reads. “Goldman Sachs wrote in an internal memorandum that ‘Dina will focus on enhancing the firm’s relationships with sovereign clients around the world.’ Ms. Powell reportedly ‘is especially close to Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund and the country’s ruling family.’ ”

“In March 2018, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman undertook a ‘last-minute visit to New York,’ where he housed his entourage at the Trump International Hotel in Manhattan for five days, a stay that reportedly ‘was enough to boost the hotel’s revenue’ by 13 percent ‘for the entire quarter,’ ” the report reads.

On Feb. 12, 2019, Trump met in the White House with several private nuclear power developers. The meeting, the report states, was “initiated by IP3 International.”

“The meeting was reported to include discussions about U.S. efforts ‘to secure agreements to share U.S. nuclear technology with Middle East nations, including Jordan and Saudi Arabia,’ ” the report reads.

There is little time left to halt the transfer of nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia. Iran, a mortal enemy of Saudi Arabia, will have no choice but to begin a nuclear weapons program if the Saudis build nuclear reactors. The thought of nuclear weapons being in the hands of Salman, an updated version of Saddam Hussein, and ultimately in the hands of nonstate radical jihadists who are supported and funded by powerful elements within Saudi Arabia, is terrifying.


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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)

Never Forget, those sixteen brave Saudis who sacrificed so much on 9/11/01

15. The others were from the United Arab Emirates (2), Egypt, and Lebanon.

You hear it as 16 regularly but it is only 15 Saudis.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-03-05   16:16:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Tooconservative (#1)

Shah of Iran receives nuke tech from Gerry Ford, Henry Kissinger.

Changing allies to a better US/Israel Puppet?

MbS is the BEST! /s


Hondo68  posted on  2019-03-05   16:48:30 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: hondo68 (#0)

More fake news again.

This bs was posted last week.

You and willie are look at the same sites. Hmmm

Justified  posted on  2019-03-05   17:26:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Tooconservative (#1)

15 too many why hasnt Trump learned the importance of nuclear non proliferation?

paraclete  posted on  2019-03-05   17:57:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: hondo68 (#0)

The most dangerous foreign policy decision of the Trump administration—and I know this is saying a lot—is its decision to share sensitive nuclear technology with Saudi Arabia and authorize U.S. companies to build nuclear reactors in that country.
Right, absolutely. Saudi Arabia is shopping China, Russia and others to ”bid on nuclear power projects” in the country. And has now placed the US on the short list.

Yea, Chris Hedges, screw the multi-billion dollar deal with the US and fuck Saudi Arabia.

Let them go to China, Russia and others who have no such thing as the United States Atomic Energy Act of 1954, titled "Cooperation With Other Nations." Where Section 123 of the agreement sets the requirement for cooperation as a prerequisite for nuclear deals between the U.S. and any other nation. Under a "123 measure," any U.S. nuclear deal with Saudi Arabia would prohibit routes toward the making of nuclear weapons by banning enrichment of uranium or the reprocessing of plutonium.

You are right on top of this, Chris Hedges. Great job.

/ Sarcasm.

And I [Chris Hedges], along with most Arabists in the United States, have little doubt that giving a nuclear capability to Saudi Arabia under the leadership of the ruthless and amoral Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman would see it embark on a nuclear weapons program and eventually share weaponized technology with Saudi allies and proxies that include an array of radical jihadists and mortal enemies of America.
Wake up, Chris Hedges. On Sunday, Saudi Arabian Prince Turki Al-Faisal said the country had more options than just U.S. technology. When asked, he told CNBC's Hadley Gamble in Munich: "Well the nuclear energy market is open. It is not just the United States that is providing nuclear technology."

And, Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman said the country wasn't interested in developing weapons but would develop nuclear capability should Iran ever develop a working nuclear bomb. So, if Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman does later develop that interest, he does not have to turn to the US, Chris. Realize that he can can easily go to China, Russia and others for the technology.

Where do we get these damned idiots who spend a few years working in a foreign country and then think they are foreign policy experts?

Hey, hondope, here is another scare tactic article by this “acclaimed progressive journalist” that describes “Trump's mastery of political theater, and the downfall of American democracy.” He says that Donald Trump "is the product of a failed democracy."

Hondope, I disagee with Crhis Hedges in that I don’t feel we have a “failed democracy.” Although I am fully cognizant that you, Deckard and other assholes are working diligently toward that end.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-05   18:04:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Gatlin (#5)

Trump is indeed the child of a failed democracy, he is also impressed by wealth, so Saudi Arabia is attractive and many deals to be done after the presidency, just like the Bushs before him

paraclete  posted on  2019-03-05   18:14:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Gatlin, democratic Canary, TrumpkinHogg failed progressive democracy (#5) (Edited)


Trumpkin/Hogg Nation, failed progressive democracy.
I don’t feel we have a “failed democracy.”

Patriotic American's will defeat Donnell's failed Wahhabi democracy, and Restore the REPUBLIC!


Hondo68  posted on  2019-03-05   18:47:31 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: paraclete, A K A Stone, GrandIsland (#6)

Trump is indeed the child of a failed democracy …
Please explain to me – “Oh, decent person” - how you can live under a constitutional monarchy with Queen Elizabeth II as your country’s head of state while you see the United States of America as a failed democracy. Furthermore, why do you think you have the right to pass judgment on our great nation?

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-05   18:50:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Gatlin (#8) (Edited)

Please explain to me – “Oh, decent person” - how you can live under a constitutional monarchy with Queen Elizabeth II as your country’s head of state while you see the United States of America as a failed democracy. Furthermore, why do you think you have the right to pass judgment on our great nation?

That twat doesn’t have a right to pass judgement on this great Republic... but Stone allows this poster to post their anti American gun opinions, while not being American.

The question of the day... would Stone allow a midde eastern ISIS poster to post Anti American shit here?

Go figure.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2019-03-05   19:03:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Justified, hondo68 (#3)

More fake news again.

This bs was posted last week.

You and willie are look at the same sites. Hmmm

YOU are right.

This story IS BS. More so because it is pure unadulterated mis-direction. Thus...pure propaganda and Leftist spin.

Hondo, there may be a kernel of truth embedded in this story. However, due to their far left, anti-America source and their agenda, it can't be taken seriously. 'TruthDig' is a hyper-Marxist propaganda vipes nest that is so far to the Left it makes MSNBC and AOC seem moderate. The place is manned by wall-to-wall leftist hags, millennial witches, and (drumroll please)...HOMOS.

Meanwhile, the site had ZERO to say about 0bama handing Iran $150 billion yet THIS story is considered "The most dangerous foreign policy decision of the Trump administration!!"??

Here's another story among hundreds of pro-Marxist/anti-America stories (and "heroes"):

Apr 30, 2017

TD originals

Truthdigger of the Week: 'Kevin de León, Advocate for 'Sanctuary Cities' and Immigrant (aka ILLEGAL INVADER) Rights'

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/truthdigger-of-the-week-kevin-de-leon-advocate-for-sanctuary-cities-and-immigrant-rights/

Liberator  posted on  2019-03-05   19:21:16 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: hondo68 (#0)

Salman, whose psychopathic traits remind me of Saddam Hussein, is widely believed to have ordered the assassination of journalist Jamal Khashoggi in the Saudi consulate in Istanbul in October 2018.

Rep. Elijah E. Cummings, the chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Reform...

Cummings is a vaunted member of the Dem-Commie Black Caucus. This guy is actively sabotaging the US Constitution.

Khashoggi was a Dem-Mainstream Media pet who was made a martyr for some odd reason.

Speaking of "psychopathic traits," frankly, the AUTHOR Chris Hedges, former New York Times propagandist, seems to display them, given his distortion of the truth and definition of heroes and villains.

Liberator  posted on  2019-03-05   19:30:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Liberator, Jihad, Bill of Love, *Border Invasion* (#11)

I couldn’t care less about Kash, but Trump's support of Saudi Israel terrorism is just evil.

No different than dubya, Obama, Juan McCain or Hillary. They're all traitors.

Also, Trump is currently providing nationwide sanctuary for millions of illegal alien invaders. Is he rounding them up and deporting them as required by law?

HELL NO! He's stalling until he can get amnesty "Bill of Love" passed, so they can stay and register to vote, and pay taxes into the FED ponzi scheme.


Hondo68  posted on  2019-03-05   20:25:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: hondo68, Liberator (#12)

Seems to me that you care more about Islamic terrorist than you do about illegal aliens murdering innocent Americans. Maybe im reading you wrong?

Or could it be that any American military deal cuts into the profits of Russian companies trying to sell to these countries?

Justified  posted on  2019-03-06   12:47:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: hondo68 (#12)

Trump's support of Saudi Israel terrorism is just evil.

Case and point(s)? Nevermind.

No different than dubya, Obama, Juan McCain or Hillary. They're all traitors.

Yes, Trump IS different, FAR different than the above NWO creatures. Skull & Bones? Illuminati? CFR? Nope, not Trump. But the others? YES. (look it up.)

ALL of the above creatures (beside DJT) have indeed committed high crimes against our nation as well as against God. The truth: They have a different "god."

Look -- at this point in history -- and just like the USA -- Israel is *also* now controlled by the Globalist-Luciferian Elites.

You are just going have to switch gears beyond the usual misdirection, manipulation and distraction and focus on the REAL boogieman, Hondo.

There are ample sources that expose the Elites' actual identity and agenda So please stop taking the "IT'S TRUMP'S FAULT!" or "IT'S ISRAEL'S FAULT!" narratives and bait and start focusing away from the Kabuki Theater. You'll find a wealth of eye-popping revelations.

Liberator  posted on  2019-03-06   13:09:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: hondo68 (#12)

Trump is currently providing nationwide sanctuary for millions of illegal alien invaders. Is he rounding them up and deporting them as required by law?

What part of, "Deep State Coup" don't you understand??

OR, what part of, "Mercenary Republican-Globalist Whores" don't you get?

THEY and Commie-Dems are betraying their oaths to the USCON.

Liberator  posted on  2019-03-06   13:11:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Justified, hondo68 (#13)

Seems to me that you care more about Islamic terrorist than you do about illegal aliens murdering innocent Americans. Maybe im reading you wrong?

Perhaps.

It's painfully obvious that Hondo has fully fallen prey to the ongoing Leftist-Globalist Media misdirection psyop. They have trained and conditioned millions like hamsters.

In his defense, that's been a challenge for most of us. But nowadays there's no good excuse to break free from the Leftist-Statist disinfo shills and start focusing on the Elites REAL plans.

Liberator  posted on  2019-03-06   13:16:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Liberator, Justified, Bush clone, Trump, worse than Obama, Reconquista Republicans, *Border Invasion* (#15)

Breitbart....

Illegal Immigration Under Trump Projected to Surpass Obama Era Levels

President Trump is projected to oversee the largest flow of illegal immigration at the United States-Mexico border since former President Bush’s administration, surpassing every year of crossings under former President Obama.

As Breitbart News reported, more than 76,000 border crossers attempted to enter the U.S. in the month of February — the most apprehensions of illegal border crossers and migrants in this month in 12 years.

While Trump’s administration expanded the Catch and Release program last month and Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen focuses her attention on cybersecurity and terrorism issues, the U.S. is projected to see a level of illegal immigration this year that will surpass every year of illegal immigration under Obama.

Princeton Policy Advisors researcher Steven Kopits estimates that there will be about 775,000 illegal border crossings this year when the last month’s border data is analyzed. This would indicate that Trump’s overseeing of the crisis at the southern border would reach Bush era levels of mass illegal immigration when, in many years, more than illegal border crossings occurred in a single year.

In the past, Kopits has projected that there would be about 606,000 border crossings this year, the most illegal immigration since Fiscal Year 2008 when Bush was still in office.

Now, Kopits predicts illegal immigration to reach “a phenomenal pace of acceleration” at the southern border this year. The researcher also expects up to half a million border crossers will successfully enter the country through the border this year.

Should illegal immigration hit the level of 775,000 attempted border crossings this year, as Kopits projects, this would be nearly double what illegal immigration was in Obama’s last Fiscal Year.


Hondo68  posted on  2019-03-06   14:09:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: hondo68, Justified, ALL (#17)

Yes, we ALL are aware of what's going on (A defiant, obstructionist secret PTB, Courts, Democrats and GOPe, and other elite orgs who are Globalists-Firsters.)

This is the last time I'll be asking you this question: Do you believe Donald J. Trump is able to enforce federal, constitutional decisions regarding The Wall, the hordes of Illegal Invaders, Sanctuary Cities, and...ordering investigations into Hillary? 0bama? Deep State coup participants?

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE FOLLOWING:

Donald J. Trump was indeed elected President. HOWEVER...

(blink once for "NO" and twice for "YES"):

Do you understand what a political "coup" is? And the following?

1) UN-KNOWN, UN-ELECTED POWERS HAVE BEEN MAKING THE DECISIONS TO ALLOW THE ILLEGAL INVASION AND IGNORE CONSTITUTIONAL LAW.

2) THESE SAME POWERS-THAT-BE GAVE HITLERY AS WELL AS THE MEMBERS OF THE DEEP STATE COUP IMMUNITY.

3) NONE OF THE COUP PARTICIPANTS AND SEDITIONISTS/TRAITORS WILL BE INDICTED

(What's THAT tell you, Hondo?)

Answer(s): Trump has been neutered. The USCON is DEAD. The US Gummint is hijacked by external elements who are ushering in their One World Government. (See Agenda 21/Agenda 2030)

Liberator  posted on  2019-03-06   14:52:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: hondo68 (#17)

Trump's administration has stopped more illegal aliens at the border than any president in modern history. The neoclowns and demoncrats have placed in law that once on US soil they can claim asylum and American then must allow them to go to court in a timely manner or be set free to roam the lands of America. I think RP is good with this and says we should not have walls because it stops people from coming to America! RP must be part of the neoclown group?

Justified  posted on  2019-03-06   15:53:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Liberator, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#18) (Edited)

The "Coup" is BS, Donnell is a loyal Jeb!/Rove Republican, aka a REAL Republican.

Ron Paul, Rand, Massie, Jordan, Amash, etc. are RINO's, IOW better than the POS real Republicans. Look at who the GOP has for prez candidates... dubya, Juan McCrazy, Mittens and a NYC progressive Democrat DJT,

You're living in a fantasy world where Trump is some godlike figure, and everyone is conspiring against him, especially the administration full of bushbot a$$holes that he hired.

Wake up and smell the coffee, you've been duped by the Pelosi/Javanka crew.


The answer to your question

As Commander and Chief, Trump has the power to "Protect the States against invasion" and "faithfully execute the office of the president of the USA", but not to spend money that was not appropriated for that purpose on a wall. Congress appropriates funds under our Constitutional form of government.

If the President was faithfully executing the office of the president, he'd be enforcing existing immigration law and deporting the dreamers and every other illegal alien as well.


Hondo68  posted on  2019-03-06   16:44:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Justified, Bolton, Cheyey, Trump, Hillary, Jeb! (#19)

Bolton, Cheney, Trump... All in the Family.


Hondo68  posted on  2019-03-06   17:05:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Gatlin (#8)

How you can live under a constitutional monarchy with Queen Elizabeth II as your country’s head of state while you see the United States of America as a failed democracy. Furthermore, why do you think you have the right to pass judgment on our great nation?

1. This parliamentary democracy operates under rule of law, not fiat. We do not have to have constant debate about constitutional matters

2. Any 'judgement" I pass is regarding the actions of your government or corporations. I comment because I know very fool idea you come up with will surface here

paraclete  posted on  2019-03-07   2:04:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: paraclete (#22)

I comment because I know very fool idea you come up with will surface here

Then please - please - try to make your comments intelligent.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-07   2:51:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: hondo68 (#17)

Breitbart....

Why do you post info from a commie-leftist-socialist site like Breitbart?

Obviously FAKE NEWS!!

Computer Hope

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-03-07   5:43:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Gatlin (#23)

Then please - please - try to make your comments intelligent.

Intelligence is in the eye of the beholder, please stop coming up with unintelligent ideas

paraclete  posted on  2019-03-07   7:23:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Deckard, GrandIsland, A K A Stone (#24)

Breitbart....

Why do you post info from a commie-leftist-socialist site like Breitbart?

Obviously FAKE NEWS!!

This is without any question and therefore undoubtedly the FUNNIEST post I have ever read on this forum.

You two are unbelievable.

Deckard, please say you forgot the ”/S” tag so I can stop laughing an realize I do not have the Pseudobulbar Affect (PBA).

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-07   7:54:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Gatlin (#26)

Hondo is a liar. Not a serious person.

A K A Stone  posted on  2019-03-07   8:05:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Tooconservative (#1)

Never Forget, those sixteen brave Saudis who sacrificed so much on 9/11/01

15. The others were from the United Arab Emirates (2), Egypt, and Lebanon.

You hear it as 16 regularly but it is only 15 Saudis.

Oh,well. That makes all the difference in the world. In that case,never mind.

In the entire history of the world,the only nations that had to build walls to keep their own citizens from leaving were those with leftist governments.

sneakypete  posted on  2019-03-07   8:26:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: A K A Stone (#27)

I had to put him on BOZO.

I hated to do that but he would never respond intelligently to my posts.

All he would do to my every post was repeatedly and almost immediately reply with stupid memes....mostly anti-Trump.

I just got tired of having to scroll over them and gave up on him.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-07   9:05:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Gatlin, Deckard (#29)

I had to put him on BOZO.

A snowflake who can't handle the truth!

LOLAY


Hondo68  posted on  2019-03-07   10:46:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: hondo68 (#30)

A snowflake who can't handle the truth!

Effing hypocrite if you ask me - chastising others for being "cowards" when someone bozos his miserable, arrogant ass - then runs of and hides behind the bozo filter when he's offended.

Perfect little snowflake indeed!

Computer Hope

Government is in the last resort the employment of armed men, of policemen, gendarmes, soldiers, prison guards, and hangmen.
The essential feature of government is the enforcement of its decrees by beating, killing, and imprisoning.
Those who are asking for more government interference are asking ultimately for more compulsion and less freedom.

Deckard  posted on  2019-03-07   11:08:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: hondo68 (#20)

You're living in a fantasy world where Trump is some godlike figure, and everyone is conspiring against him...

Stunning world-view. If that's your perception of reality, I'm afraid there's not any proof that can help shake the cobwebs out.

Wake up and smell the coffee, you've been duped by the Pelosi/Javanka crew.

In the past I'd mention Sterno-fumes here, but...I won't.

Liberator  posted on  2019-03-07   12:03:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: hondo68 (#30)

LOLAY

For accuracy, isn't that supposed to be LOLAYDA?

And you should sprinkle a few "dishonorable assholes" in any post that rebukes others for being critical or just disagreeing.

Tooconservative  posted on  2019-03-08   18:21:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Deckard (#31)

Effing hypocrite if you ask me ...

Uh - No one has.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-08   18:52:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Deckard (#31)

... chastising others for being "cowards" when someone bozos him ...

I have never - NEVER - done that.

You need to stop making up shit.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-08   18:54:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Deckard (#31)

… when he's offended.
Oh, but he never offended me in any way.

It’s just that have lately developed a very low tolerance for stupid people.

But I may decide to un-bozo him when I get over my low tolerance of stupid people.

I must confess that I am in no hurry to do that and it may be a long time before I decide to make an effort.

Since it is such a pleasure to notice the missing numbers after my every post.

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-08   19:00:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Tooconservative, Gatlin nutless coward (#33)

And you should sprinkle a few "dishonorable assholes" in any post that rebukes others for being critical or just disagreeing.

I also neglected to mention that Gatlin is a Nutless Coward.


Hondo68  posted on  2019-03-08   19:04:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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