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Title: Does the Vatican Have a Telescope Called LUCIFER?
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URL Source: https://answersingenesis.org/astron ... have-telescope-called-lucifer/
Published: Mar 4, 2019
Author: Dr. Danny R. Faulkner
Post Date: 2019-03-04 08:48:39 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 1639
Comments: 21

From time to time here at Answers in Genesis we get inquiries about a telescope called LUCIFER that the Vatican supposedly owns. This story has been circulating around the internet for nearly a decade. It certainly sounds shocking, so it’s no wonder why people ask us about this. Is there any truth to this rumor?

Vatican Telescope in Arizona? Many people are surprised to learn that the Vatican even has an observatory. The history of the Vatican Observatory goes back two and a half centuries. During its history, there has been some turmoil and several moves to escape the light and other hindrances that large cities, such as Rome, pose to doing astronomy. Therefore, more than a half-century ago the Vatican Observatory established a research group at the Steward Observatory of the University of Arizona in Tucson, while the Vatican Observatory’s headquarters remained in Italy.

Vatt it is! Vatican astronomers used some of the facilities of Steward Observatory, but in 1993 the 1.8-meter Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope (VATT) opened on Mount Graham in southeast Arizona. The same year, Steward Observatory’s Heinrich Hertz Submillimeter Telescope (SMT) also opened on Mount Graham. A little more than a decade later, the Large Binocular Telescope (LBT) opened on Mount Graham. With twin 8.4-meter mirrors, the LBT is one of the largest optical telescopes in the world. The LBT is owned and operated by a consortium of institutions in the United States and from around the world.1 Collectively, the three facilities atop Mount Graham, VATT, SMT, and LBT, comprise the Mount Graham International Observatory (MGIO).

What’s in a Name? Astronomers mount various instruments on telescopes for research. They usually come up with catchy, and often humorous, names for these instruments. For instance, 35 years ago I used an infrared photometer on a telescope at Kitt Peak National Observatory near Tucson, Arizona. Since warm objects emit infrared radiation, it is important to cool infrared detectors, or else the signal you are trying to measure will be swamped with “noise.” The system I used cooled the detector to a very low temperature with a special refrigerator unit using liquid helium. Some cooling systems vent off gas, but this one didn’t. Therefore, they called this the Closed Circuit Cooling Photometer (CCCP). This title was descriptive, though it wasn’t very interesting. Or was it? This was during the Cold War, and many people knew that the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) in Russian and in the Cyrillic alphabet was CCCP. Therefore, most people on the mountain jokingly called this “the people’s photometer.”

Sinister Sense of Humor While this cute moniker wasn’t official, others have been. An example is a very complex, useful instrument designed for the LBT. At its inception, the system was called Large Binocular Telescope Near-infrared Spectroscopic Utility with Camera and Integral Field Unit for Extragalactic Research (LUCIFER). The full title was descriptive of what the instrument was to do, but it was a mouthful. And notice that they had to play games with the acronym to get it to spell out anything memorable. I’m sure that the astronomers who came up with this one were amused.

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#2. To: ALL (#0)

Is there any truth to this rumor?
I don’t know but I will accept the notion that there is.

And I quickly think….so what?

Then I realize that it matters to some.

For if you are an extreme conspiracy theorist - as unfortunately a few here are - you hasten to gash and scream out that the name Lucifer is another name for Satan and that the Vatican has a big telescope designed to look for the Devil.

On the other hand, if you are an intelligent person who is well educated to think rationally you are quick to remember that Lucifer in a literary sense is “the planet Venus when it rises in the morning.”

So, does it matter?

I guess it all boils down to whether you want to believe the Vatican is looking upward into the sky to try and find the Devil….or the Vatican is looking up in the sky to study the planet Venus.

In which school of thought do you rest …

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-04   9:38:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Gatlin, A K A Stone (#2) (Edited)

For if you are an extreme conspiracy theorist - as unfortunately a few here are - you hasten to gash and scream out that the name Lucifer is another name for Satan

How Did Lucifer Fall and Become Satan?

I didn't realize that the bible is just a "conspiracy theory manual".

Deckard  posted on  2019-03-04   10:00:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Deckard (#4)

There is a huge pile of supertition here in the conflation of the names Satan, a Semitic angel, and Lucifer, a cultic Roman name applied to but not limited to Venus the evening or morning star. The name is not used in Ezekiel 28 and Isaiah 14, but is translated that way from Hebrew into Latin in the Vulgate. King James' tranlators thought that name very badass and used it in their English version. Most translations call for "morning star."

The apparent objects of this name in the Old Testament are arrogant human actors who are prophesied to be brought low, like the Price of Tyre or the remnant of the tribes left in Jerusalem. Getting knocked off a high perch is a dominant theme in the OT which I am slogging through. Leave it to the Latins to monumentalize it.

It all doesn't amount to a hill of beans except insofar as it applies to the beliefs of influential modern cults. Fr. Malichi Martin has written extensively on a Vatican cult that venerates Lucifer behind closed doors. We also hear it reputed that Lucifer is an object of devotion of Freemasons. I've heard that alluded to by a modern Mason, and Albert Pike makes mention of it.

A good name for a telescope though. The "light bearer."

randge  posted on  2019-03-04   11:37:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#10. To: randge (#9)

King James' tranlators thought that name very badass and used it in their English version. Most translations call for "morning star."

So in your opinion it seems there is no perfect word of God. We have to wing it.

I disagree with that sentiment.

A K A Stone  posted on  2019-03-04 11:42:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: randge (#9) (Edited)

There is a huge pile of supertition here in the conflation of the names Satan, a Semitic angel, and Lucifer, a cultic Roman name applied to but not limited to Venus the evening or morning star. The name is not used in Ezekiel 28 and Isaiah 14, but is translated that way from Hebrew into Latin in the Vulgate. King James' tranlators thought that name very badass and used it in their English version. Most translations call for "morning star."
I could not have stated it any more clearly or made it even more understandable.

Thank you, Preacher.

No sarcasm there.

I believe I did read where you said you are a preacher.

Am I correct?

Gatlin  posted on  2019-03-04 12:16:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: randge, Deckard, A K A Stone (#9)

There is a huge pile of supertition here in the conflation of the names Satan, a Semitic angel, and Lucifer...

Actually...no. It is NOT "superstition."

I realize the interweb and its different sources of info can give conflicting accounts and definitions. I should be noted that as in the case of all good propaganda, many sources are designed to misdirect and confuse AND ridicule.(We see a couple of posters HERE using all three ploys ALL the time.) Someone like Alex Jones whose revelations quickly became 60% "Truth" and 40% misdirection/lies become far more valuable to the Luciferian-Elites than say...CNN, MSNBC or The NY Times.

All this said, few of us are totally immune to the tricks and propaganda of the elites, whose ownership of Gxxgle, YouTxbe, MSM, etal allows them to control, censor, and distort the truth. They use ridicule as a large part of that control -- besides the other usual excuses like, "racist," "homophobic," and "dangerous." The case of Alex Jones' ban from YouTube AND FB has provided Exhibit "A".(What are the Luciferian-Elites afraid of??: THE TRUTH GOING VIRAL.

Fr. Malichi Martin has written extensively on a Vatican cult that venerates Lucifer behind closed doors.

We also hear it reputed that Lucifer is an object of devotion of Freemasons. I've heard that alluded to by a modern Mason, and Albert Pike makes mention of it.

All of the above: ABSOLUTELY 100% TRUE.

Liberator  posted on  2019-03-04 13:39:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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