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Title: Hero Democrat Senator Jim Webb Urges a Halt to Senate Health Care Votes
Source: NY Times
URL Source: http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes. ... t-to-senate-health-care-votes/
Published: Jan 21, 2010
Author: David Herszenhorn
Post Date: 2010-01-21 09:00:48 by war
Keywords: None
Views: 16155
Comments: 90

Responding to the Republican victory in Massachusetts, Senator Jim Webb, Democrat of Virginia, is calling on Senate leaders to suspend any votes on the Democrats’ health care legislation until the winner in the special Senate election, Scott Brown, is sworn into office.

In a statement, Mr. Webb, who voted for the health care bill in December, congratulated Mr. Brown on his victory and said he looked forward to working with him. But he also said Democrats must take note of the wider implications of the election results.

“In many ways the campaign in Massachusetts became a referendum not only on health care reform but also on the openness and integrity of our government process,” Mr. Webb said. “It is vital that we restore the respect of the American people in our system of government and in our leaders. To that end, I believe it would only be fair and prudent that we suspend further votes on health care legislation until Senator-elect Brown is seated.”

Top Democrats have already signaled that they do not want to rush the health care legislation through the Senate before Mr. Brown can be sworn in. Instead, they are eying a backup plan to ask House Democrats to adopt the Senate health care bill as-is, which would send it directly to President Obama for his signature.

But the quick reaction by Mr. Webb, a centrist, is early evidence that Democratic leaders could find themselves struggling to hold together support for the health care measure. Backing of the bill was always tenuous, and party leaders are bracing for the possibility that Democrats who previously supported the bill may turn against it.

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#5. To: war (#0)

Rim Webb a hero? Oh puh-leeze, the chickenshit political pussy crapped his pants when Brown won in MA. If he were a hero he wouldn't have voted for ObamaCare in the first place.

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2010-01-21   11:25:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Happy Quanzaa, sneakypete (#5)

Have you, uh, jumped in front of any grenades lately?

Jim Webb is a genuine hero. But since he's a dem I understand your need to see him destroyed.

war  posted on  2010-01-21   11:29:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: war (#8)

Is he still writing about putting boys penises in his mouth?

What a sick fag.

dont eat that  posted on  2010-01-21   11:49:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: dont eat that (#11)

Is he still writing about putting boys penises in his mouth?

He never wrote about that and you are a liar if you are claiming that he did.

sneakypete  posted on  2010-01-21   23:30:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: sneakypete (#28)

He never wrote about that and you are a liar if you are claiming that he did.

From

Whoa! Jim Webb's Dirty Novel Passages

Full Article

    - Lost Soldiers: "A shirtless man walked toward them along a mud pathway. His muscles were young and hard, but his face was devastated with wrinkles. His eyes were so red that they appeared to be burned by fire. A naked boy ran happily toward him from a little plot of dirt. The man grabbed his young son in his arms, turned him upside down, and put the boy's penis in his mouth."

    Ø Bantam Books, NY, 1st Edition, 2001, (hard cover), page 333.

    Ø Quote is from para. 10,.Chap. 34.

    - Something to Die For: "Fogarty . . . watch[ed] a naked young stripper do the splits over a banana. She stood back up, her face smiling proudly and her round breasts glistening from a spotlight in the dim bar, and left the banana on the bar, cut in four equal sections by the muscles of her vagina."

    Ø William Morrow and Company, Inc., NY 1991, 1st Ed. (hardcover), p. 36.

    Ø Avon Books, New York, 1992 (Mass-Market paperback edition), p. 35

    Ø Quote is from para. 29, Chap. 2 "The South China Sea,", Section 2

    - A Country Such as This: "[He] could see Jawbone and Ashley Asthmatic [two guards at a Vietnamese prison camp] napping together in the grass. They faced inward, their arms entwined. It looked like they were masturbating each other. It didn't surprise him. ... It was common to see men holding hands, embracing, playing with each other. Some of them [the guards] had wanted him. He could tell in those evanescent moments between his bao cao bow, the obligatory deference when a guard entered his cell, and the first word or blow that followed it... Quick, grinding voices, turgid with repressed passion. An exploratory reaching of the hand near his groin..."

    Ø Doubleday & Co., Garden City, NY, 1983 (hardcover); page 396.

    Ø Bluejacket Books, 2001 (Trade paperback edition), page 396

    Ø Page numbers are the same in the Naval Institute Press (paperback) edition, 1983.

    Ø Quote is from fifth para, Part 5 "A Country Such As This," Chap. 24, Section 1

    - A Sense of Honor: "Nurse Goodbody, dark and voluptuous (Lenahan had forgotten her actual name, it was something long and Italian), was a bedtime friend to many of the doctors in Bethesda. She had hinted to Lenahan that she simply could not contain herself. Doctors tending to patients, she explained, aroused her. Morphine Mary (again Lenahan could not remember her exact name) was a thin, nervous drill sergeant type, a disciplinarian who did not allow her patients even to complain. Lenahan was convinced that Morphine Mary did not even sleep with her husband. She wasn't bad looking, he mused again, staring at her thin frame. If she'd just get laid every now and then she'd mellow out and stop being such a damn witch." (p. 164) (Lenahan brings Goodbody home with him and has sex, pp. 188-190)

    Ø Prentice-Hall, New York, 1981 (hardcover)

    Ø Bantam, New York, 1982 (Mass-Market paperback edition), p. 164

    Ø Trade paperback edition, Bluejacket Books, 1995, p. 164

    Ø Quote is from fourth para in Part 3, "Chapter 4:1600"

Update: Paul sent me the following additional quotes that no one else seems to have picked up on, which better show the context (or lack thereof) in which the other Lost Soldiers quote appears.

    Page 408:

    "A hundred meters upriver, then cut to your right, and you will be at the park where the man kissed the little boy's penis."

    Page 409:

    "Why did he kiss the little boy's penis?" wondered Dzung. "I do not know," said Manh. And then he shook his head, amazed at Dzung's serenity.

    Page 423:

    "The vacant lot where the man had kissed the little boy's penis was just across the street"

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2010-01-22   8:29:15 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Happy Quanzaa (#32)

Tell me where he says he does this,instead of a character in a fictional story. BTW,if you don't think this type of thing is done every day you have lived a sheltered life.

sneakypete  posted on  2010-01-22   19:16:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: sneakypete (#59)

Webb's books, Webb's medals, Webb working for 6 month's for Reagan before being fired, Sarah Palin's support of Juan McStain, Webb being a Republican, Webb being Democrat, Webb's mail order wife, none of that really matters when we get to the meat of Webb's record. No matter how it's spun, Webb voted for Obama's Marxist ObamaCare and everything else he's been told to by Party Central. The bottom line is grass is green, the sky is blue, and Webb ver. 2010 is a Fellow Traveling Obamabot. It has been documented, no amount of denial and nothing he did in Vietnam can erase his Senate voting record.

Happy Quanzaa  posted on  2010-01-23   8:57:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#73. To: Happy Quanzaa (#70)

It has been documented, no amount of denial and nothing he did in Vietnam can erase his Senate voting record.

Who is questioning that? Not me.

Being a opportunist now doesn't mean he is a coward,though. It just means he has gotten greedy.

sneakypete  posted on  2010-01-23 09:32:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Happy Quanzaa (#70)

Webb's books, Webb's medals, Webb working for 6 month's for Reagan before being fired, Sarah Palin's support of Juan McStain, Webb being a Republican, Webb being Democrat, Webb's mail order wife, none of that really matters when we get to the meat of Webb's record.

There is no argument about that. The only question is if you recognize this to be true,why do you keep trying to slam him on those things?

sneakypete  posted on  2010-02-02 06:42:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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