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Title: Hero Democrat Senator Jim Webb Urges a Halt to Senate Health Care Votes
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URL Source: http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes. ... t-to-senate-health-care-votes/
Published: Jan 21, 2010
Author: David Herszenhorn
Post Date: 2010-01-21 09:00:48 by war
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Views: 15044
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Responding to the Republican victory in Massachusetts, Senator Jim Webb, Democrat of Virginia, is calling on Senate leaders to suspend any votes on the Democrats’ health care legislation until the winner in the special Senate election, Scott Brown, is sworn into office. In a statement, Mr. Webb, who voted for the health care bill in December, congratulated Mr. Brown on his victory and said he looked forward to working with him. But he also said Democrats must take note of the wider implications of the election results. “In many ways the campaign in Massachusetts became a referendum not only on health care reform but also on the openness and integrity of our government process,” Mr. Webb said. “It is vital that we restore the respect of the American people in our system of government and in our leaders. To that end, I believe it would only be fair and prudent that we suspend further votes on health care legislation until Senator-elect Brown is seated.” Top Democrats have already signaled that they do not want to rush the health care legislation through the Senate before Mr. Brown can be sworn in. Instead, they are eying a backup plan to ask House Democrats to adopt the Senate health care bill as-is, which would send it directly to President Obama for his signature. But the quick reaction by Mr. Webb, a centrist, is early evidence that Democratic leaders could find themselves struggling to hold together support for the health care measure. Backing of the bill was always tenuous, and party leaders are bracing for the possibility that Democrats who previously supported the bill may turn against it.
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#29. To: war (#13)
Well,actually,she is bi-sexual. It's one of his daughters that's a dedicated lesbian.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Benedict Arnold was a hero before he was traitor, just like Rim Webb.
[snicker]
No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...
From Ø Bantam Books, NY, 1st Edition, 2001, (hard cover), page 333. Ø Quote is from para. 10,.Chap. 34. - Something to Die For: "Fogarty . . . watch[ed] a naked young stripper do the splits over a banana. She stood back up, her face smiling proudly and her round breasts glistening from a spotlight in the dim bar, and left the banana on the bar, cut in four equal sections by the muscles of her vagina." Ø William Morrow and Company, Inc., NY 1991, 1st Ed. (hardcover), p. 36. Ø Avon Books, New York, 1992 (Mass-Market paperback edition), p. 35 Ø Quote is from para. 29, Chap. 2 "The South China Sea,", Section 2 - A Country Such as This: "[He] could see Jawbone and Ashley Asthmatic [two guards at a Vietnamese prison camp] napping together in the grass. They faced inward, their arms entwined. It looked like they were masturbating each other. It didn't surprise him. ... It was common to see men holding hands, embracing, playing with each other. Some of them [the guards] had wanted him. He could tell in those evanescent moments between his bao cao bow, the obligatory deference when a guard entered his cell, and the first word or blow that followed it... Quick, grinding voices, turgid with repressed passion. An exploratory reaching of the hand near his groin..." Ø Doubleday & Co., Garden City, NY, 1983 (hardcover); page 396. Ø Bluejacket Books, 2001 (Trade paperback edition), page 396 Ø Page numbers are the same in the Naval Institute Press (paperback) edition, 1983. Ø Quote is from fifth para, Part 5 "A Country Such As This," Chap. 24, Section 1 - A Sense of Honor: "Nurse Goodbody, dark and voluptuous (Lenahan had forgotten her actual name, it was something long and Italian), was a bedtime friend to many of the doctors in Bethesda. She had hinted to Lenahan that she simply could not contain herself. Doctors tending to patients, she explained, aroused her. Morphine Mary (again Lenahan could not remember her exact name) was a thin, nervous drill sergeant type, a disciplinarian who did not allow her patients even to complain. Lenahan was convinced that Morphine Mary did not even sleep with her husband. She wasn't bad looking, he mused again, staring at her thin frame. If she'd just get laid every now and then she'd mellow out and stop being such a damn witch." (p. 164) (Lenahan brings Goodbody home with him and has sex, pp. 188-190) Ø Prentice-Hall, New York, 1981 (hardcover) Ø Bantam, New York, 1982 (Mass-Market paperback edition), p. 164 Ø Trade paperback edition, Bluejacket Books, 1995, p. 164 Ø Quote is from fourth para in Part 3, "Chapter 4:1600" Update: Paul sent me the following additional quotes that no one else seems to have picked up on, which better show the context (or lack thereof) in which the other Lost Soldiers quote appears. "A hundred meters upriver, then cut to your right, and you will be at the park where the man kissed the little boy's penis." Page 409: "Why did he kiss the little boy's penis?" wondered Dzung. "I do not know," said Manh. And then he shook his head, amazed at Dzung's serenity. Page 423: "The vacant lot where the man had kissed the little boy's penis was just across the street"
...is something you lack...
No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...
Do you folks realize how dumb you come off by using that word? Apparently not...
No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...
...is something you lack... I never sold out for a seat on the Politburo, Comrade Webb has. Vietnam or no Vietnam, medals or no medals, it is what is. Webb is just another Obamunist now marching in lock step with Jane Fonda down the Ho Chi Minh Trail.
No...you sold out for a seat on the Third Reich...
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Big difference between Jimmy Webb in the 60's, and Jimmy Webb the political creature. Reagan detailed it in his diaries, saying everybody was pretty happy Webb resigned after nine months. He's a coward today, as his abrupt about face 22 hours after Brown's victory demonstrates conclusively.
Hell war, your such a pussy you constructed a alternative identity on the internet, and hid behind it for 14 years and counting....let alone have the balls to serve in the military, like myself, sneaky, and Webb.
Actually most of us do understand what it takes to be a USMC Infantry Platoon Leader ANYWHERE, at ANY TIME. This isn't about his service in Nam, its about his being a political pussy SINCE THEN. Try to live in the here and now, eh?
Nothing about your service was like sneaky's or Webb's. Neither of them brag about it as much as you do. Neither of them wear it on their sleeve as much as you do. Magic served even though his insides were rotting while you sat on your ass sipping Crown Royale and posting bullshit on the internet all day. Yea...what honor you bring to veterans everywhere...what a fucking gleaming example you are. Revealing personal information on people simply because people are smarter than you - which you'd think you'd be used to by now - and telling lie after lie after lie after lie. And the fact that you would mis-represent what Red Ink wrote about Webb underscores what a liar you really are and what an absolute GOP partisan hack you are with absolutely no sense of honor whatsoever. Back on filter, boy.
gopqueefingroom.com
Badeye's response about this observation in re Webb: "Nonsense. Medals issued for 'I was there' purposes don't indicate a thing about the man wearing them, and I say that as a Veteran." Deny you said it asshole.
gopqueefingroom.com
In The Reagan Diaries, the former president wrote, "I don't think the Navy was sorry to see him go." Certainly doesn't seem like Reagan was very admiring of the pedophile.
Wow...what a SCATHING indictment of the man and his service. Certainly doesn't seem like Reagan was very admiring of the pedophile. Didn't know Reagan knew you...
gopqueefingroom.com
One man who sat where you do now and graduated from the Naval Academy in 1968 is another member of our administration-Assistant Secretary of Defense James Webb, the most decorated member of his class. James' gallantry as a marine officer in Vietnam won him the Navy Cross and other decorations, including two Purple Hearts. James wrote several books about American service men and women. In his book, "A Sense of Honor," he describes the life that you have chosen. He wrote: "Servicemen are always in motion, in the air at more than the speed of sound, underwater at depths whales could only dream of, on the surface of the water cruising at 30 miles an hour through crashing seas with another ship almost touching theirs . . . replenishing their oil supplies. Or they are on the ground, in the dirt, testing and training weapons that may someday kill others but today may deal them that same irony. The smallest margin of error separates a live man from a dead man. And in war, of course, they are the first and usually the only ones to pay. The President and the Congress may suffer bad news stories. The military man suffers the deaths of his friends, early and often." End quote. I want each of you to know that this President understands and appreciates the job that you will be doing. Your lives are precious. You are putting yourselves in harm's way for America's sake, and I will do everything in my power to make certain the country gives you the tools and equipment you need to do your job and to come home safely -Ronald Wilson Reagan, 22nd May 1985, US Naval Academy Commencement Speech
gopqueefingroom.com
1. You didnt' serve. Kiss my ass, Fraud. 2. Magic wasn't serving the military in Afghanistan you idiot. He was working for Blackwater. Kiss my ass, Fraud. 3. Reagan's quotes about Webb are in the book. You apparently haven't read it, hence the claiming I'm misrepresenting them. Kiss my ass, Fraud. 4. I didn't have to 'glean' information about anyone, Fraud. Site owners handed it to me unasked for, related to you, and you alone. Primarily because of the bullshit you posted about where you were on 9/11. Kiss my ass, Fraud. Now run and hide behind the filter, Fraud.
Nobody that worked with Webb is, or was. He's given to petulance, to say the least.
I don't deny anything, Fraud.
Magic served even though his insides were rotting while you sat on your ass sipping Crown Royale and posting bullshit on the internet all day. Yea...what honor you bring to veterans everywhere...what a fucking gleaming example you are. Revealing personal information on people simply because people are smarter than you - which you'd think you'd be used to by now - and telling lie after lie after lie after lie. And the fact that you would mis-represent what Red Ink wrote about Webb underscores what a liar you really are and what an absolute GOP partisan hack you are with absolutely no sense of honor whatsoever. gopqueefingroom.com
So much for the laughable claim 'I don't engage in cross board forum wars' Fraud. God, you are sooo easy...
Is there a site out there with that name? (laughing) I got the name from one of your posts here and liked it so much I made it my tagline. BTW, Bill Mayer would appreciate it if you left him out of your little fantasies of that which never happened. You can email him about it if you want. He was pretty pissed the last time this was brought to his attention. You may remember that time. It was when you were FALSELY [as usual] claiming that I couldn't post @ pipe. Do you know what your problem is? You're a KNOWN quantity, and despite your obvious pathology which makes surfeit your truth deficit, there are AMPLE examples of this fact available...you don't "fool" anyone badeye. Everyone knows you're a drunk and everyone knows you're a liar [the two usually go hand in hand]...is it any wonder that everyone sees you for nothing more than the creation of your own damaged mind... The answer, btw, is no...(grin)
gopqueefingroom.com
BINGO!! Webb ain't no hero...he's an Obamabot RAT-FREAK just like his butt- buddy, MarkyMark Warner...MUD
"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, Let's hear about your war experiences, Nudge...
gopqueefingroom.com
(laughing) More than one site owner, fraud. I don't have a problem, Fraud. I'm exactly as I portray myself online. Quite a few know this today. Just as they know you've created a online fantasy life.
Chuckles...I only posted @ pipe at the time...there was no other site for there to be "more than one"...
gopqueefingroom.com
Thanks for agreeing...(laughing)
gopqueefingroom.com
Keep trying...you're not that clever...
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btt
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gopqueefingroom.com
Tell me where he says he does this,instead of a character in a fictional story. BTW,if you don't think this type of thing is done every day you have lived a sheltered life.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
No question there. He's a coward today, as his abrupt about face 22 hours after Brown's victory demonstrates conclusively. Get real. There was no physical danger if he hadn't done this. It makes him a political opportunist playing the game for bucks and power instead of patriotism,but that doesn't make him a coward. Calling him a coward for this is like calling Dennis Rodman a "hero" for playing basketball.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Try and learn what being a hero or a coward entails,and learn the difference between cowardice and opportunism.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Webb's book "Fields of Fire" is one of the best novels ever written about what it's like to be a grunt on the ground involved in conventional warfare. It's as real as it gets,and reading it makes you feel like you are right there with him as he describes what it was like for the typical young infantryman in the 1960's in Asia.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
What fascinated me the most was how Webb was able to weave certain moral certitudes delineating right from wrong into situations that, at first glance, you'd believe to be wholly morally wrong. From the fragging of the one Top to the Senator's father turning the draft dodger in, the sense of "right" triumphing was compelling. A Sense of Honor was a very good book too. It captures the essence of the social conflict that was occurring as the military transformed from what it was in WWII and, to an extent, Korea, i.e. one that defined winning as killing the enemy until he submits to fighting a war in a moral way to victory which, as certain as I sit here, is an impossbility.
gopqueefingroom.com
And, btw, I don't say this enough and as far as I am concerned you can't hear it enough...thanks and welcome home...
gopqueefingroom.com
And that somehow involves making neutral non-judgemental observations about about fathers sticking their son's penises in their mouth. Okay, I guess it's just something you and Jim understand.
Geez, what are you doing now, trying to expound on your common interest in books that discuss homosexual incestual pedophilia? So what should have been done about Islamofascism? Turn our our heads and say it doesn't exist? Nuke the countries off the earth? Try and be friends with with them? Is it not telling that after all his bluster, Obama is essentially continuing Bush's policy?
And that somehow involves making neutral non-judgemental observations about about fathers sticking their son's penises in their mouth. Okay, I guess it's just something you and Jim understand. The one thing that is clear is that you are a clueless fool and a partisan hack who only "knows" what he is programmed to "know". What you describe is not in that book,but don't let reality intrude on your private fantasies.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Hang everybody in the Bush Crime Family and the RINO National Committee?
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
... he's a commie Do you folks realize how dumb you come off by using that word? Apparently not... No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need... war posted on 2010-01-22 8:55:43 ET Reply Trace Private Reply Huh?? Do you know how silly you look not realizing that those words were ...... not ...........mine? It was HQ's comment from post 18 and even post 21. 'Sok war.....most here don't expect you to pay attention.
Death to everybody who does not get outta my way.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestLynn Cheney writes lesbian porn. Guess that makes The Big Dick's wife a lesbian porno actress using your logic.
#30. To: sneakypete (#26)
#31. To: sneakypete (#25)
Say WHAT? Tell me,Boteye,were YOU a infantry USMC platoon leader in VN?
#32. To: sneakypete (#28)
He never wrote about that and you are a liar if you are claiming that he did.
Whoa! Jim Webb's Dirty Novel Passages
- Lost Soldiers: "A shirtless man walked toward them along a mud pathway. His muscles were young and hard, but his face was devastated with wrinkles. His eyes were so red that they appeared to be burned by fire. A naked boy ran happily toward him from a little plot of dirt. The man grabbed his young son in his arms, turned him upside down, and put the boy's penis in his mouth."
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A Sense of Honor
#34. To: e_type_jag (#22)
... he's a commie
#35. To: war (#33)
A Sense of Honor
#36. To: Client 9 (#35)
#37. To: sneakypete (#25)
#38. To: war (#31)
#39. To: sneakypete (#26)
#40. To: Badeye (#38)
#41. To: Badeye, sneakypete (#39)
Unlike 99.9% of internet posers of all stripes (hint), James Webb can back up his tough guy talk and has a chest of medals to prove it.
#42. To: war (#40)
And the fact that you would mis-represent what Red Ink wrote about Webb
#43. To: padlock (#42)
"I don't think the Navy was sorry to see him go."
#44. To: Client 9 other partisan hacks (#35)
#45. To: war (#40)
#46. To: dont eat that (#42)
#47. To: war (#41)
#48. To: Badeye (#47)
Nothing about your service was like sneaky's or Webb's. Neither of them brag about it as much as you do. Neither of them wear it on their sleeve as much as you do.
#49. To: war (#48)
gopqueefingroom.com
#50. To: Badeye (#49)
(Edited)
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#51. To: dont eat that (#42)
"In The Reagan Diaries, the former president wrote, "I don't think the Navy was sorry to see him go." Certainly doesn't seem like Reagan was very admiring of the pedophile."
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."
#52. To: Mudboy Slim (#51)
Webb ain't no hero..
#53. To: war (#50)
#54. To: Badeye (#53)
More than one site owner...
#55. To: Badeye (#53)
I'm exactly as I portray myself online.
#56. To: All (#55)
#57. To: All (#56)
#58. To: All (#57)
#59. To: Happy Quanzaa (#32)
#60. To: Badeye (#37)
Big difference between Jimmy Webb in the 60's, and Jimmy Webb the political creature.
#61. To: Badeye (#39)
Try to live in the here and now, eh?
#62. To: war (#44)
One man who sat where you do now and graduated from the Naval Academy in 1968 is another member of our administration-Assistant Secretary of Defense James Webb, the most decorated member of his class. James' gallantry as a marine officer in Vietnam won him the Navy Cross and other decorations, including two Purple Hearts. James wrote several books about American service men and women. In his book, "A Sense of Honor," he describes the life that you have chosen. He wrote:
#63. To: sneakypete (#62)
#64. To: sneakypete (#62)
#65. To: sneakypete (#62)
Webb's book "Fields of Fire" is one of the best novels ever written about what it's like to be a grunt on the ground involved in conventional warfare.
#66. To: war (#63)
It captures the essence of the social conflict that was occurring as the military transformed from what it was in WWII and, to an extent, Korea, i.e. one that defined winning as killing the enemy until he submits to fighting a war in a moral way to victory which, as certain as I sit here, is an impossbility.
#67. To: dont eat that (#65)
Webb's book "Fields of Fire" is one of the best novels ever written about what it's like to be a grunt on the ground involved in conventional warfare.
#68. To: dont eat that (#66)
So what should have been done about Islamofascism?
#69. To: war (#34)
#34. To: e_type_jag (#22)
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