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Title: Hero Democrat Senator Jim Webb Urges a Halt to Senate Health Care Votes
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NY Times
URL Source: http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes. ... t-to-senate-health-care-votes/
Published: Jan 21, 2010
Author: David Herszenhorn
Post Date: 2010-01-21 09:00:48 by war
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Responding to the Republican victory in Massachusetts, Senator Jim Webb, Democrat of Virginia, is calling on Senate leaders to suspend any votes on the Democrats’ health care legislation until the winner in the special Senate election, Scott Brown, is sworn into office. In a statement, Mr. Webb, who voted for the health care bill in December, congratulated Mr. Brown on his victory and said he looked forward to working with him. But he also said Democrats must take note of the wider implications of the election results. “In many ways the campaign in Massachusetts became a referendum not only on health care reform but also on the openness and integrity of our government process,” Mr. Webb said. “It is vital that we restore the respect of the American people in our system of government and in our leaders. To that end, I believe it would only be fair and prudent that we suspend further votes on health care legislation until Senator-elect Brown is seated.” Top Democrats have already signaled that they do not want to rush the health care legislation through the Senate before Mr. Brown can be sworn in. Instead, they are eying a backup plan to ask House Democrats to adopt the Senate health care bill as-is, which would send it directly to President Obama for his signature. But the quick reaction by Mr. Webb, a centrist, is early evidence that Democratic leaders could find themselves struggling to hold together support for the health care measure. Backing of the bill was always tenuous, and party leaders are bracing for the possibility that Democrats who previously supported the bill may turn against it.
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#1. To: war (#0)
Hero? Webbs almost as big a coward as you are. Almost...
HCR is dead, Obama is now going to push for a far more scaled back bill.
The issue of HCR's failure lays firmly on Obama's shoulders. It's one thing to lay out a vision. Another to turn the vision into something tangible and yet another to turn what is tangible into action. He failed after the vision. Clinton had a great technique of being insistent in public while being malable behind closed doors...Obama seems to be the opposite.
No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...
Agreed. HRC is dead largely because Obama approached it badly.
Rim Webb a hero? Oh puh-leeze, the chickenshit political pussy crapped his pants when Brown won in MA. If he were a hero he wouldn't have voted for ObamaCare in the first place.
Read what Reagan had to say about this punk Webb in 'The Reagan Diaries'. He knew what this pussy was in 1985.
Were I Obama, the first thing that I would have done was to point out to Harry Reid [and toa lesser extent Nancy Pelosi] how the electorate was motivated by me and to take heed. The dems need a statesman like George Mitchell again...instead they have this fucking guy who proved his ineeffective as an oppositon leader...
No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...
Have you, uh, jumped in front of any grenades lately? Jim Webb is a genuine hero. But since he's a dem I understand your need to see him destroyed.
No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...
The Navy Cross is presented to James H. Webb, Jr., First Lieutenant, U.S. Marine Corps, for extraordinary heroism while serving as a Platoon Commander with Company D, First Battalion, Fifth Marines, First Marine Division (Reinforced), Fleet Marine Force, in connection with combat operations against the enemy in the Republic of Vietnam. On July 10, 1969, while participating in a company-sized search and destroy operation deep in hostile territory, First Lieutenant Webb's platoon discovered a well-camouflaged bunker complex that appeared to be unoccupied. Deploying his men into defensive positions, First Lieutenant Webb was advancing to the first bunker when three enemy soldiers armed with hand grenades jumped out. Reacting instantly, he grabbed the closest man and, brandishing his .45 caliber pistol at the others, apprehended all three of the soldiers. Accompanied by one of his men, he then approached the second bunker and called for the enemy to surrender. When the hostile soldiers failed to answer him and threw a grenade that detonated dangerously close to him, First Lieutenant Webb detonated a claymore mine in the bunker aperture, accounting for two enemy casualties and disclosing the entrance to a tunnel. Despite the smoke and debris from the explosion and the possibility of enemy soldiers hiding in the tunnel, he then conducted a thorough search that yielded several items of equipment and numerous documents containing valuable intelligence data. Continuing the assault, he approached a third bunker and was preparing to fire into it when the enemy threw another grenade. Observing the grenade land dangerously close to his companion, First Lieutenant Webb simultaneously fired his weapon at the enemy, pushed the Marine away from the grenade, and shielded him from the explosion with his own body. Although sustaining painful fragmentation wounds from the explosion, he managed to throw a grenade into the aperture and completely destroy the remaining bunker. By his courage, aggressive leadership, and selfless devotion to duty, First Lieutenant Webb upheld the highest traditions of the Marine Corps and of the United States Naval Service.
No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...
Come on war! You know better than that. "Patriots" don't serve!
Is he still writing about putting boys penises in his mouth? What a sick fag.
That pedophile fag is just trying to cover his ass in Virginia. One moonbat already went down in flames in an election there.
Chuckles...do you ****think**** that anything YOU would say would be taken seriously. He wrote about what he observed. Lynn Cheney writes lesbian porn. Guess that makes The Big Dick's wife a lesbian porno actress using your logic.
No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...
Give it up. Webb is a sick, twisted fag.
No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...
No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...
Would love to hear these REMF's regale us with how their tales of warm beer, stale pretzels and steak only once a week stands up against the above...
No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...
Viet Nam was over 35 years ago. And some war hero anyway, he's a commie over there shooting at commies. That doesn't make him a hero, it makes him a hypocrite. To tell you the truth, 'Nam vets aren't represented well in politics. I'm sure there are some good ones, but not in 'big name politician' category. John Murtha, Duke Cunningham, Juan McCain, John Kerry, Jim Webb, every one either a thief, liar, &/or a Big Government statist. I believe Charlie Rangel was a Korean War combat vet, I suppose he makes you bust out in pride on July 4th too.
If his father isn't who he is he wins the MoH...
No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...
I'm sorry...but when I see anyone in uniform and before I go to thank them I don't ask them where they stand on TARP. I thank them and move on.
No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...
'Sup with this stuff HQ? "Some" war hero? Webb is a dimTARD....it does not diminish the fact he was a brave N/C recipient .....a man of valor for what he did do. Why piss on that? Piss on his regressive politics but prolly not a good concept to piss on his bravery IMHO. I do though agree that war mentioning Webb's past valor in service is pretty hilarious in it's "grasping" for validity.
Death to everybody who does not get outta my way.
Viet Nam was over 35 years ago. And some war hero anyway, he's a commie over there shooting at commies. That doesn't make him a hero, it makes him a hypocrite. 'Sup with this stuff HQ? "Some" war hero? Webb is a dimTARD....it does not diminish the fact he was a brave N/C recipient .....a man of valor for what he did do. Why piss on that? Piss on his regressive politics but prolly not a good concept to piss on his bravery IMHO. I do though agree that war mentioning Webb's past valor in service is pretty hilarious in it's "grasping" for validity. Death to everybody who does not get outta my way.
Death to everybody who does not get outta my way.
'Sup w/ it is war saying Rim Webb having a stellar record in 'Nam makes it OK for him to be a commie stooge for Bill Ayer's homeboy Barry here, that's 'sup w/ it. Webb is a phony, he goes any way that suits. He was a Republican then, he's a Democrat now. He was a Marine in 'Nam then, he's Charlie in The States now. That's lower than Jane Fonda imho. Hanoi Jane was a commie then and Hanoi Jane's a commie now, at least she's consistent and honest about who she is.
Death to everybody who does not get outta my way.
Say WHAT? Tell me,Boteye,were YOU a infantry USMC platoon leader in VN?
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
These partisan hacks have any idea what it meant to be a USMC infantry platoon leader in VN. To them,courage is saying "Me,too!" anytime anybody criticizes someone from another party,and they even do most of that behind anonymous screen names on the internet. Having said that,he DID punk out when he had his assistant take the rap for smuggling a handgun into the US Senate.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
BTW,the Navy Cross is a industrial-strength hero button. The USMC takes Navy Crosses VERY seriously,and they don't just hand them out to anybody. It is the equivalent of the Army's Distinguished Service Cross,and people generally get them after being put in for and turned down on a award of the Medal of Honor.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
He never wrote about that and you are a liar if you are claiming that he did.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Well,actually,she is bi-sexual. It's one of his daughters that's a dedicated lesbian.
"I adore John McCain, support him 100 percent and will do everything I can to support his reelection. As everyone knows, I was honored and proud to run with him. And Todd and I were with him in D.C. just a week ago." (Sarah Palin,Dec 2009) ************************************ DID Palin say or write these things or not? (Me) I don't know or F ing care. (Mad Dog posted on 2009-12-26 16:36:33 ET,post # 105 http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=5510&Disp=114#C114)
Benedict Arnold was a hero before he was traitor, just like Rim Webb.
[snicker]
No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...
From Ø Bantam Books, NY, 1st Edition, 2001, (hard cover), page 333. Ø Quote is from para. 10,.Chap. 34. - Something to Die For: "Fogarty . . . watch[ed] a naked young stripper do the splits over a banana. She stood back up, her face smiling proudly and her round breasts glistening from a spotlight in the dim bar, and left the banana on the bar, cut in four equal sections by the muscles of her vagina." Ø William Morrow and Company, Inc., NY 1991, 1st Ed. (hardcover), p. 36. Ø Avon Books, New York, 1992 (Mass-Market paperback edition), p. 35 Ø Quote is from para. 29, Chap. 2 "The South China Sea,", Section 2 - A Country Such as This: "[He] could see Jawbone and Ashley Asthmatic [two guards at a Vietnamese prison camp] napping together in the grass. They faced inward, their arms entwined. It looked like they were masturbating each other. It didn't surprise him. ... It was common to see men holding hands, embracing, playing with each other. Some of them [the guards] had wanted him. He could tell in those evanescent moments between his bao cao bow, the obligatory deference when a guard entered his cell, and the first word or blow that followed it... Quick, grinding voices, turgid with repressed passion. An exploratory reaching of the hand near his groin..." Ø Doubleday & Co., Garden City, NY, 1983 (hardcover); page 396. Ø Bluejacket Books, 2001 (Trade paperback edition), page 396 Ø Page numbers are the same in the Naval Institute Press (paperback) edition, 1983. Ø Quote is from fifth para, Part 5 "A Country Such As This," Chap. 24, Section 1 - A Sense of Honor: "Nurse Goodbody, dark and voluptuous (Lenahan had forgotten her actual name, it was something long and Italian), was a bedtime friend to many of the doctors in Bethesda. She had hinted to Lenahan that she simply could not contain herself. Doctors tending to patients, she explained, aroused her. Morphine Mary (again Lenahan could not remember her exact name) was a thin, nervous drill sergeant type, a disciplinarian who did not allow her patients even to complain. Lenahan was convinced that Morphine Mary did not even sleep with her husband. She wasn't bad looking, he mused again, staring at her thin frame. If she'd just get laid every now and then she'd mellow out and stop being such a damn witch." (p. 164) (Lenahan brings Goodbody home with him and has sex, pp. 188-190) Ø Prentice-Hall, New York, 1981 (hardcover) Ø Bantam, New York, 1982 (Mass-Market paperback edition), p. 164 Ø Trade paperback edition, Bluejacket Books, 1995, p. 164 Ø Quote is from fourth para in Part 3, "Chapter 4:1600" Update: Paul sent me the following additional quotes that no one else seems to have picked up on, which better show the context (or lack thereof) in which the other Lost Soldiers quote appears. "A hundred meters upriver, then cut to your right, and you will be at the park where the man kissed the little boy's penis." Page 409: "Why did he kiss the little boy's penis?" wondered Dzung. "I do not know," said Manh. And then he shook his head, amazed at Dzung's serenity. Page 423: "The vacant lot where the man had kissed the little boy's penis was just across the street"
...is something you lack...
No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...
Do you folks realize how dumb you come off by using that word? Apparently not...
No Stems No Seeds That You Don't Need...
...is something you lack... I never sold out for a seat on the Politburo, Comrade Webb has. Vietnam or no Vietnam, medals or no medals, it is what is. Webb is just another Obamunist now marching in lock step with Jane Fonda down the Ho Chi Minh Trail.
No...you sold out for a seat on the Third Reich...
gopqueefingroom.com
Big difference between Jimmy Webb in the 60's, and Jimmy Webb the political creature. Reagan detailed it in his diaries, saying everybody was pretty happy Webb resigned after nine months. He's a coward today, as his abrupt about face 22 hours after Brown's victory demonstrates conclusively.
Hell war, your such a pussy you constructed a alternative identity on the internet, and hid behind it for 14 years and counting....let alone have the balls to serve in the military, like myself, sneaky, and Webb.
Actually most of us do understand what it takes to be a USMC Infantry Platoon Leader ANYWHERE, at ANY TIME. This isn't about his service in Nam, its about his being a political pussy SINCE THEN. Try to live in the here and now, eh?
Nothing about your service was like sneaky's or Webb's. Neither of them brag about it as much as you do. Neither of them wear it on their sleeve as much as you do. Magic served even though his insides were rotting while you sat on your ass sipping Crown Royale and posting bullshit on the internet all day. Yea...what honor you bring to veterans everywhere...what a fucking gleaming example you are. Revealing personal information on people simply because people are smarter than you - which you'd think you'd be used to by now - and telling lie after lie after lie after lie. And the fact that you would mis-represent what Red Ink wrote about Webb underscores what a liar you really are and what an absolute GOP partisan hack you are with absolutely no sense of honor whatsoever. Back on filter, boy.
gopqueefingroom.com
Badeye's response about this observation in re Webb: "Nonsense. Medals issued for 'I was there' purposes don't indicate a thing about the man wearing them, and I say that as a Veteran." Deny you said it asshole.
gopqueefingroom.com
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#16. To: padlock (#14)
Lynn Cheney writes lesbian porn. Guess that makes The Big Dick's wife a lesbian porno actress using your logic.
#17. To: Bartcoprules (#10)
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Observing the grenade land dangerously close to his companion, First Lieutenant Webb simultaneously fired his weapon at the enemy, pushed the Marine away from the grenade, and shielded him from the explosion with his own body.
#18. To: war (#8)
Have you, uh, jumped in front of any grenades lately?
#19. To: Happy Quanzaa (#18)
#20. To: Happy Quanzaa (#18)
To tell you the truth, 'Nam vets aren't represented well in politics. I'm sure there are some good ones, but not in 'big name politician' category. John Murtha, Duke Cunningham, Juan McCain, John Kerry, Jim Webb, every one either a thief, liar, &/or a Big Government statist.
#21. To: Happy Quanzaa (#18)
Viet Nam was over 35 years ago. And some war hero anyway, he's a commie over there shooting at commies. That doesn't make him a hero, it makes him a hypocrite.
#22. To: war (#21)
#23. To: e_type_jag (#21)
'Sup with this stuff HQ? "Some" war hero?
#24. To: Happy Quanzaa (#23)
Noted.....Webb is a turd otherwise and wars added hyperbole was absurd
#25. To: Badeye (#1)
Hero? Webbs almost as big a coward as you are. Almost...
#26. To: war, Happy Quanzaa (#8)
Have you, uh, jumped in front of any grenades lately?
#27. To: war, Happy Quanzaa, all (#9)
The Navy Cross is presented to James H. Webb, Jr., First Lieutenant, U.S. Marine Corps, for extraordinary heroism
#28. To: dont eat that (#11)
Is he still writing about putting boys penises in his mouth?
#29. To: war (#13)
Lynn Cheney writes lesbian porn. Guess that makes The Big Dick's wife a lesbian porno actress using your logic.
#30. To: sneakypete (#26)
#31. To: sneakypete (#25)
Say WHAT? Tell me,Boteye,were YOU a infantry USMC platoon leader in VN?
#32. To: sneakypete (#28)
He never wrote about that and you are a liar if you are claiming that he did.
Whoa! Jim Webb's Dirty Novel Passages
- Lost Soldiers: "A shirtless man walked toward them along a mud pathway. His muscles were young and hard, but his face was devastated with wrinkles. His eyes were so red that they appeared to be burned by fire. A naked boy ran happily toward him from a little plot of dirt. The man grabbed his young son in his arms, turned him upside down, and put the boy's penis in his mouth."
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A Sense of Honor
#34. To: e_type_jag (#22)
... he's a commie
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A Sense of Honor
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#41. To: Badeye, sneakypete (#39)
Unlike 99.9% of internet posers of all stripes (hint), James Webb can back up his tough guy talk and has a chest of medals to prove it.
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